Originally posted by NY Madman:
You think it is torture. I don't know why you would think that because it does not do any harm. Waterboarding is not torture.
What color is the sky in your world, Madman? Physical damage is not the only criterion for what constitutes torture. If it does no harm and isn't torture, why does it make them talk? Maybe they're giggling with glee at how much fun it is and important info accidentally slips out...
Maybe it's not as bad as some other tortures... maybe it's torture-lite... but it's definitely torture.
That said, on to the second quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
Whether you think it is torture or not, it is completely irresponsible for politicians to try to outlaw it's use and remove it as a tool that can be used in some cases. That does nothing but weaken this country and give comfort to enemies.
I think most people will disagree with you on this - but at least it is a more honest argument.
My problem with the argument that torture is okay because it saves lives is this:
A lot of Americans have this feeling that America (or at least the USA
) is a great country - that we're a "good" country and that we're the "good guys".
Maybe we're not... maybe we're no better than and no different from the "filthy ragheads" over there... but if we want to try to be the good guys and live up to this idyllic American image with waving flags, forefathers fighting for freedom and all that shit, we have to play by the good guy rulebook - and that means no torture no matter how many lives it might save.
Superman wins because he is smarter, faster, stronger, and braver - not because he hooks up car batteries to the Penguin's nipples
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