-Allright, you guys are somewhat right and I posted by displeasure without proper consideration---I SINCERELY APPOLOGIZE --Sinagua, I'm sorry if it appears that way, but that part about my RANT isn't true. I love off-road clubs-have been in several and was president of the Paradise club. Now all of my years off-road have been-as I said- in Dodge/Ford and JEEP now that has been for over 40 years, so I am new (only) to Xterra. I won't apologize for my displeasure of CALMINI, because I had discussed these problems with them several times and I still get the $849 bumper screwed up. Now it's installed and I have modified it and installed a lock, just for the reasons we talked about (Latch mechanism)-I'm sorry this is so long, but I want you guys to get my points Try not to think I'm an asshole because I,m not--Now I've already orderd Shrocks Sliders and I've seen how communicative he is with fitting problems so I will be so much more agreeable when I get his parts-again please excuse me --And it's JIMBO not gymbo I only used that name to get on the posting register--Please just bear with me I have good things to say about off-roading-- JIMBO