Carlton: i have not seen any of their pictures that were actualy are close ups ON THE TRAIL ( if there are any, Please point me to them )

if it was tested in slow speed speeds (as slr sad in the first part of the thread), it dont take a rocket scientist to stand infront of the truck , and snap a pic, while the driver climbs the rock, or something like that

Ian: you are comparing nissan R&D to SLR ?