xoc and BM300:

What's up with this Grand Cherokee discussion?

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Please, let's keep this thread informative to SLR's CL and Nissan parts.

Boarder Phreak:

Thanks for your feedback and honest gestures. I will definitely look into a group buying option for the Nissan community.

MeWantSnow!:

"They system should be sold at cost or a very nice discount to a select few Xterra owners in different parts of the country, with different vehicle set-ups. That is maybee 1 stock, one with the SLR lift, one with the AC lift, and one with the Calmini lift. Have them wheel with it for a couple of months, and get their honest feedback on the system. No offense SLR, but stating that this will be the last steering is one thing.....having it out there being used in various terrain is another. Now please don't take that the wrong way....I'm very grateful that your helping the Nissan Aftermarket scene. But I, along with others, like to see something truely tested, before I make a purchase like that."

Great idea. I would love to have my system tested in different configurations and climates.

Here is a list of people that will be testing my set up:

--SLR on 5 different trucks
--Desert Rat
--steinism
--Gordon White
--Todd Kirby
--Chris Kennedy
--xoc

"One more thing......if it is proven that it is superior to stock, and holds up after time....You will definatly have an order from me."

We have jumped our system, skipped over the tops of 2-3 foot whoops at speed, hit rocks at speed. Misjudged a whoop section to have our system bottom out on top of 2-3 foot whoops (droop to bump). We are very rough on steering components. Our truck are driven at highway speeds and can perform emergency turns to avoid obstacles.

After days of desert pounding, city driving, and most importantly 4x4 at slow speeds with Jeeps. Cross-ups, bumping obstacles due to lack of traction.

socalpunx:

"You feel that that exposure and the sales that they generate are ballanced by one $1,200 lift kit a year ago ? And that's the retail price of the kit. What do you think their cost is ? A few hundred bucks ? So that is all the value that they feel they get from here ?"

The lift is $1685 retail cost. I would really like to see what XOC's monthly advertising rates are.

I really like Ian and I think that his message board is great. I'm really glad to work with him. xoc was going to be the first with the SLR system, but some of his true colors have started to show in this thread.

"I just checked with a fab shop in Denver, and they can build it for $350.

That's just way too much money for what is there.

Here's my breakdown of the parts. These prices are standard, look them up on the web.

Cromoly Tubing - $18
Steel Stock for Tie-rod mounts - $20
Spherical Bearings - $52
Retaining Clips - $8
Shoulder Bolts - $8
Washers - $4

5-7 hours of machining, welding, drilling at $50/ hour.

That's $110 in materials and $250-350 in labor.

I don't see where the remaining cost is coming from unless it's purely markup."

xoc:

What kind of spherical bearing are you pricing; what grade? Talk to PJ at Baker Precision. Call the chassis shop and ask for a price quote on 1 1/4 250 wall 4130. Please post the results here. Chrome moly prices fluctuate due to supply and demand of chromium. I would also like you to check pricing on other steering setups and post the results here. Please do not factor in the other $950 steering system, due to the fact that you gave my R&D away with the photo I sent you on 4x4parts' message board.

That would be the SLR Stage 5 steering system that will also be available within a few weeks. All production parts are being heat treated and at CNC.

ClimberRn:

"Ian will have his made."

Ian: Thanks for the support to the Nissan community.

ClimberRn:

"I still feel the money invested in my setup is well spent. The testing is the best part !"

Please state the material used in your setup. To my knowledge, your new vertical-mounted inner heims are only 2-4 weeks old. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Testing??

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