Thank you for showing that video. Doesn't address what I was hoping to see completely (in the conditions; not in what happened. Now do that in a situation where one tire is compressed, and the other is flexed, and that'd be the situation I was hoping to see. I claim that will increase the wheel spin that happened in the video, and at an earlier point as well), but at least it's an attempt in the right direction to settle the discussion, instead of TJ and my BS.