TJ:

I have not conceded anything. They do not increase traction any whatsoever. They do not cause traction loss as quickly on asphalt as they will on dirt. There's a lot of things out there that will accomplish that feat, including wider tires, different tread pattern, the fact it's fucking asphalt and not dirt, etc...

Showing revolvers working well on an RTI ramp is not proving they work offroad... Again, there are lots of things that work freaking awesome on an RTI ramp (think half-elliptical springs), but are absolutely worthless when offroading.

The physics, as you so politely mention, are not on your side. Flip back a few pages and re-read when I explained the physics to you. You didn't get it then, and you still don't get it now. I'm not a physics teacher, and I don't have the time nor the patience to teach you dynamics. I laid it out as simply as I could; that's as good a description as I can give 'ya.

Sorry if it's not good enough for you to understand. However, my limited abilities in explaining things I know do not make them wrong; just means I can't explain it worth crap.