These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people

Posted by: Origami Gangsta

These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 01:26 PM

Four guys rob dude at his business, he promptly gets in his Hummer and runs over their car.

Posted by: airbutchie

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 01:30 PM

Justice Done... Too bad it wasn't an Xterra!!!

- Air B
Posted by: rb42

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 01:37 PM

Damn... I think it's great they got caught, but driving over their vehicle means (to me) that he wanted to kill them...

Should he be arrested for fighting back? Hell no.
Should he be arrested for trying to kill them? Yeah.

Too bad it didn't happen in Texas. He could have shot them all inside the building and been well within his rights to protect himself. But even in Texas, chasing them down and crushing them is a little illegal. smile

-=RB42
Posted by: Paul H

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 01:41 PM

I was gonna say it depends on where he run over the car at but after seeing this I would say yeah he used deadly force.
Posted by: Carlton McMillan

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 02:12 PM

Perhaps they pointed a gun at him while he was following them. So in order to defend himself he rammed the car. I am sure he had NO idea that his Hummer would just ramp right over the bastard crooks. [Laughing]
Posted by: number41

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 02:14 PM

Justice is served.

The guy should probably go to jail for running over their car. Here in Arizona it is legal to use deadly force to protect your property but I think the whole hunting them down thing is a bit much.
Posted by: Big Daddy Chia

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 02:43 PM

Damn tats you beat me to it.
Posted by: MBFlyerfan

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 02:53 PM

Good for him. laugh [LOL]
Posted by: Stonecoldchavez

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 03:48 PM

Justice is served is right.

He saved the taxpayers two jail cells. Too bad he didn't get the other two.

F'em, I say.

Stone
Posted by: Samueul

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Stonecoldchavez:
Justice is served is right.

He saved the taxpayers two jail cells. Too bad he didn't get the other two.

F'em, I say.

Stone
gotta agree with you guys. They got what they deserved....
Posted by: johnnyx

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 17/06/03 05:08 PM

Yeah, that's been all over the news here.

Apparently the guy in the Hummer was "so worked up during the chase he didn't realize how much damage his H2 would inflict". I heard he was trying to pin them in the car so they didn't get away. He pinned them all right!

F*ckers deserved what they got.
Posted by: Stonecoldchavez

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 18/06/03 08:33 AM

I hope this guy doesn't get jailtime.

He probably will though. And get more time than the scumbags who robbed him. frown

Stone
Posted by: 2001frontier

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 18/06/03 08:50 AM

I think he should be given a medal. That is a regular Hummer BTW, not an H2.
Posted by: daventx

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 18/06/03 09:38 AM

Holy Shit!!! Someone used a Hummber for more than getting groceries!
This guy by far is my new hero.
Someone needs to make sure he gets a bad ass lawyer and keep him out of jail.
Posted by: krisjon

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 18/06/03 11:17 AM

That's good shit. Also a lesson learned : don't mess with guys who go wheelin' !
Posted by: Matt Peckham

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 18/06/03 04:52 PM

Yeah, but will his insurance rate go up?
Posted by: TravelingFool

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 05:40 AM

There's no way in hell he should be arrested. I'm sorry if this offends, but if you break into my house and come at me with a knife, I'd come back at you full force with 5 shells from a 12 guage. "Equal Retaliation" goes right out the window when you're the one being threatened.

Hell, I was REALLY REALLY CLOSE to letting the dogs out to "greet" the magazine salesman who refused to leave my front porch after I'd politely refused to buy anything THREE times yesterday.
Posted by: EMT_Diver

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 09:31 AM

more importantly what kind of mileage did he get while chasing bad guys?
Posted by: seamonkey

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 10:02 AM

The people that were polled and thought he shouldn't be arrested, will be the same people on the Grand Jury that will choose to endict him or not.

If he is arrested, it will only be after a Grand Jury indictment. The police will probably send the case to the prosecutor with no recommendation and let the Grand Jury make the desicion.
Posted by: jorge

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by PNUTMNM:
"Equal Retaliation" goes right out the window when you're the one being threatened.

Hell, I was REALLY REALLY CLOSE to letting the dogs out to "greet" the magazine salesman who refused to leave my front porch after I'd politely refused to buy anything THREE times yesterday.
Okay, you have problems. Having dogs attack a desperate magazine salesman is wrong. Use the hose.

Second, they were running away. No longer a threat to this guy. He tried to kill them in his anger, plain and simple. So a simple theft deserves a death sentence?

Anyway, I bet he caused more damage on his H1 then he would have lost in the theft.

I hope something happens to him, if not jail time probation and some anger management classes.
Posted by: Cygnus-X1

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by jorge:
if not jail time probation and some anger management classes.
Anger management classes??? Wouldn't you be a little angry if you were robbed? I hope he gets a medal. I hope the guys who robbed him rot in a cell with only a copy of Hillary's new book to read.
Posted by: Samueul

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by jorge:

Second, they were running away. No longer a threat to this guy. He tried to kill them in his anger, plain and simple. So a simple theft deserves a death sentence?

I hope something happens to him, if not jail time probation and some anger management classes.
So because they were running away, the guy who was wronged lost all rights to persuit? This is the thinking of the majority of this country and it worries me. when the wronged becomes the bad guy for standing up for himself.... I remember a while back I got flamed for stating I would shoot someone that broke into my house... I was made the bad guy because I stated that I wouldn't have cared if I shot the criminal in the back.... Point is, when does the individual stand up for himself. I bet you if more people did, then crimes would drop like bricks in a pool.
Posted by: GrayHam

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Samueul:
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Originally posted by jorge:

Second, they were running away. No longer a threat to this guy. He tried to kill them in his anger, plain and simple. So a simple theft deserves a death sentence?

I hope something happens to him, if not jail time probation and some anger management classes.
So because they were running away, the guy who was wronged lost all rights to persuit? This is the thinking of the majority of this country and it worries me. when the wronged becomes the bad guy for standing up for himself.... I remember a while back I got flamed for stating I would shoot someone that broke into my house... I was made the bad guy because I stated that I wouldn't have cared if I shot the criminal in the back.... Point is, when does the individual stand up for himself. I bet you if more people did, then crimes would drop like bricks in a pool.
When does the idea of vigilantism have a breaking point?

Sure, the guy has every right to pursue . . . does he have the right to murder?

I thought the whole point of "proper force" was that the force applied was appropriate to the situation . . . and a bunch of guys running away with some money (wouldn't the business owner be insured for robbery loss?) doesn't seem like a need for attempted murder . . .

On the other hand, I hope the guy doesn't get arrested. But I don't like the idea that other pinheads might try the same thing . . .

Hate to get my brains driven into the A-pillar of my truck because Bubba in his diesel-powered F-350 decided to "pursue" the little shit who cut him off three blocks back . . .

PNUT: You have dogs? I've only seen you talk about that vicious little Yorkie ankle-biter . . .
Posted by: GrayHam

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by PNUTMNM:
There's no way in hell he should be arrested. I'm sorry if this offends, but if you break into my house and come at me with a knife, I'd come back at you full force with 5 shells from a 12 guage. "Equal Retaliation" goes right out the window when you're the one being threatened.
That's in your house, though.

Do you think, if someone broke in with a knife, that you'd follow them out the door, down the street, through the neighborhood, then shoot them with a shotgun?

Betcha you'd be charged with a series of crimes so fast your head would spin . . .

"Self-defense" and "retaliatory hunting" are very different . . .
Posted by: 2001frontier

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 11:12 AM

Not here they aren't. If someone is stealing your property, you can kill them. You will go to jail, and have to get a lawyer, but you will most likely get off. Even if someone is in your house and you shoot them, you will probably get a trip to the pokey, and some nice lawyer fees.
Posted by: Samueul

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Graham:

Sure, the guy has every right to pursue . . . does he have the right to murder?

I thought the whole point of "proper force" was that the force applied was appropriate to the situation . . . and a bunch of guys running away with some money (wouldn't the business owner be insured for robbery loss?) doesn't seem like a need for attempted murder . . .
True... I think this is just a case of seeing the person wronged actually get back at the criminal for once in a manner that we only see in the movies... So he gets a lot of cheers....

I still say good for him smile
Posted by: GrayHam

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Samueul:
True... I think this is just a case of seeing the person wronged actually get back at the criminal for once in a manner that we only see in the movies... So he gets a lot of cheers....

I still say good for him smile
I'm glad he fought back, too . . .

And I hope he gets an awesome lawyer . . . because I think he just might need one . . .
Posted by: TravelingFool

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Graham:
Do you think, if someone broke in with a knife, that you'd follow them out the door, down the street, through the neighborhood, then shoot them with a shotgun?
Shoot them? No... follow them out the door, down the street, through the neighborhood? Hell yes! Fire over their heads and tell them to stop or I'll shoot? You betcha. Continue persuit till someone sees us and calls the cops, or till they see the shotgun and slow down? Yep.

I have a 7lb Yorkie (Samson), a 50lb mutt my wife rescued (Daisy), and a 110 Redbone Coonhound (Flash) that was SUPPOSED to be a hunting dog. The first time we went out for a lesson I thought I'd lost him in the woods till I found him sleeping under a shade tree... Jed Clampet's dog is his hero. He *HATES* people at the door though.
Posted by: GrayHam

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by PNUTMNM:
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Originally posted by Graham:
[b]Do you think, if someone broke in with a knife, that you'd follow them out the door, down the street, through the neighborhood, then shoot them with a shotgun?
Shoot them? No... follow them out the door, down the street, through the neighborhood? Hell yes! Fire over their heads and tell them to stop or I'll shoot? You betcha. Continue persuit till someone sees us and calls the cops, or till they see the shotgun and slow down? Yep.
[/b]

Well, that's my point. You aren't trying to kill the guy who is running away, only trying to stop him.

The idiot with the Hummer, no matter how much you wished more people did that, would have been well-advised to pick up a cell-phone, call the cops, help them find these nimrods . . .

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I have a 7lb Yorkie (Samson), a 50lb mutt my wife rescued (Daisy), and a 110 Redbone Coonhound (Flash) that was SUPPOSED to be a hunting dog. The first time we went out for a lesson I thought I'd lost him in the woods till I found him sleeping under a shade tree... Jed Clampet's dog is his hero. He *HATES* people at the door though.
People don't leave your property, they're looking for a bite in the ass . . . just make sure your homeowner's insurance is paid up! laugh
Posted by: kd4adc

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Samueul:
Quote:
Originally posted by Stonecoldchavez:
[b]Justice is served is right.

He saved the taxpayers two jail cells. Too bad he didn't get the other two.

F'em, I say.

Stone
gotta agree with you guys. They got what they deserved....[/b]
I agree. If they didn't want trouble, they shouldn't have started it.
Posted by: Origami Gangsta

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 19/06/03 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by jorge:
Quote:
Originally posted by PNUTMNM:
[b] "Equal Retaliation" goes right out the window when you're the one being threatened.

Hell, I was REALLY REALLY CLOSE to letting the dogs out to "greet" the magazine salesman who refused to leave my front porch after I'd politely refused to buy anything THREE times yesterday.
Okay, you have problems. Having dogs attack a desperate magazine salesman is wrong. Use the hose.

Second, they were running away. No longer a threat to this guy. He tried to kill them in his anger, plain and simple. So a simple theft deserves a death sentence?

Anyway, I bet he caused more damage on his H1 then he would have lost in the theft.

I hope something happens to him, if not jail time probation and some anger management classes.[/b]
You've got issues man. It's people like you(and I'm not talking liberal or conservative shit, I could give a donkey fuck about that) that let the criminals run the cell blocks.

Two thumbs up, way up, for what this guy did. Crime should pay, period. Three ARMED guys walked. Armed, as in with weapons(probably guns). He was one unarmed guy. Which means not only was he robbed, his life was threatened. You're FUCKING A RIGHT I'll be pissed to no end.

Anger management my ass. As Samuel and Pnut said, if someone breaks in my house, they die, or at least I go down trying. Nobody, absolutely nobody, will threaten me and my family in my own house and have me do nothing about it.

Quite frankly, I honestly believe that you have never been the victim of robbery. I have. My parents home was broken into and my dad's custom old school sound system(worth thousands of bucks already at that time) was lifted. Nobody ever found the guy. The cops wouldn't couldn't help for shit. My parents(I was too young to fully comprehend it, but I was scared) felt violated. The motherfucker who did it could have easily killed us in our sleep had he choose to do so.

Now maybe that means jack shit to you, but I could care less what your opinion is about that. I've vowed to myself that will NOT happen to my family ever. My family and I will not be victims as long as I have a say and can do something about it.

I pray it never happens to you. But maybe it does for you to understand.

I need anger management. [Freak] [LOL]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: These guys just learned why it's not a good idea to rob people - 21/06/03 07:44 PM

Perhaps this is an odd thread for my first post on the board... but what the hell smile

If I were this guy and some jerk-offs robbed me and I was chasing them in my new X (that weighs 4,000lbs) and they suddenly stopped in front of me... well, with those crappy brakes (compared to my old Outback) I think I'd just roll right over the f*ckers... and you can imagine if you were in an H1... those suckers are heavy! "Ooops... sorry about your Metro." {in a Forrest Gump voice}

Those guys deserve what they got.