Official 2006 College Football Season Thread

Well, the greatest sport in the land finally kicks off tomorrow. How's the first game looking for your team?

Mine is Oregon, and they open with Stanford. Should be a win, but it is a conference game and they do have an outstanding senior quarterback.

I'm really interested in watching Cal-Tenn, WSU-Auburn, Domers-GT, USC-Arkansas, and Miami-FSU. Not a bad opening weekend.

My Nebraska Cornhuskers open the season at home against the mighty Louisiana Tech Bulldogs. :rolleyes: Should be another opening day blowout.

pnwbeers...Kinda weird the Oregon starts off with a conference game, eh? Is that something that happens a lot?

Oh yeah, GO BIG RED!

Yeah!

Be the best in what is simply known as the Big XII North!

See Ya at the Fiesta Bowl!
The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You!

It isn't unheard of, but usually we start off with a non-conference game. Frankly this should be the easiest of the first three games, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

Well, my Red Raiders are opening against SMU. That could be a good game for the first quarter. As far the rest of our non-conference games, I'm worried most about playing TCU on the road. We should beat them pretty easily, but anything can happen... especially on the road with such a young quarterback. Since our stadium is only 1/3 of the way complete, here's our pretty side :



As for my "other" team... Notre Dame is over-rated, but rightfully so since preseason polls are typically based on history. However, nothing on their schedule really makes me think they can lose, so they could easily go undefeated. Either way, football season is here!



The Pac-10 actually did something better than the rest of the conferences. Since the NCAA decided to go to 12 games, they made that "extra" game a conference game. I'm sure that had something to do with it.

The nice thing is that we can determine a true champ without a conference championship game and the need to go to 12 members (which I am against and won't happen).

The not nice thing is that we'll beat each other up even more in conference, as we don't have Miss. State, Baylor, Iowa State, etc. type teams to beat up on. Say what you want about the "Pac-1," but there's far more parity in the Pac-10 than any other conference - 8 teams have won or shared the Pac-10 title in the last decade (exceptions are Zona and Cal).

I'm so Goddamn glad it's college football season again.

The 'Horns are playing North Texas on Saturday.

Not a bad way to start breaking in that new QB. Same goes for Tech's game against SMU.

It sucked last year when Clemens went down mid-season, but now it's nice to have two solid quarterbacks with a lot of actual game experience.

War Eagle! Haven't heard too much about WSU. Anybody from that area have any scoop? Good time of year though and good luck to your teams (except WSU and Bama).

They finished 9th in the Pac-10 last year, and lost one of the top-10 running backs in the country to graduation. If Auburn is half what it's cracked up to be this year, it should be a cake walk. WSU does have some pretty good talent at the skill positions, so it is possible that they make a game of it, but I don't see them winning.

Hopefully the new QB will be as successful as Major and Vince were their first seasons.

Villanova (I-AA, Atlantic 10) opens at Central Florida (Conf. USA). "Nova's going to get killed. Boy, that I-AA national championship game in 2002 seems like ancient history. I expect another long season; maybe 4 or 5 wins.

Well, one of our NFL prospect receivers might be in trouble with the NCAA. We're thinking grades, but no one knows for sure yet. This could suck.

I thought you guys were always loaded at WR. Will you actually have a depth problem if you lose this kid?

Another question - how's the o-line? That has a huge impact on how a young QB plays.

Hicks is a considered a Top 10 receiver and will hurt if he can't play. Yes, we have depth, but you don't want to lose your Randy Moss eventhough you still have Andre Johnson and Eric Moulds (you can tell I'm in Houston). The more the better in this system. Our O-line is always good, so no worries there.

My schools of personal interest...

Texas A&M - The Aggie fans are about to give up on Coach Fran if he doesn't turn things around this year... he doesn't really have any excuses not to do decently given the cupcake and mostly home scheduling. I think the Aggies only leave the state twice this year.

Louisville - The Cardinals are sitting pretty in the Big East. Hopefully, they can take care of business and get past West Virginia.

Kentucky - So when does basketball season start? Tubby Smith needs to get the program out of recent mediocrity...

GO GATORS!!!!!

Hopefully I will be going to a few games here this season!

Thanks for the scouting report. I've always sorta liked the Ducks. Wild Uniforms! Good Luck.

Not a bad day so far. Idaho actually played MSU pretty damn tough (huge surprise).

Oregon up 27-10 at half. It should be 31-10, but I can't complain too much. Snoop is living up to his billing so far - 1st half stats: 16 rushes for 123 yards (7.7 Avg) and a kick return for 54 yards.

240 lbs, 4.4-40, 38.5" vert, benches 410 - how sweet it is to have nailed the #1 HS RB in the country two years ago.

Hope those knees hold up.

LMAO at CU...

GO (1AA) BOBCATS!!!

Cal's gettin' smoked. Tough to win without a QB, I guess.

They won't finish in the top 4 in the Pac-10.

Go Bucks!

"Big 12" indeed. LOL Maybe next year they'll take on a high school team.

Domers squeaked out a 4 point win over unranked GT.

Front-butt Charlie may be a good coach, but the domers are barely a top 25 team this year. :rolleyes:

GO VOLS!

College football is back! Some things haven't changed. Yet another over-rated Pac-10 team gets exposed. The Big 12 North is still a complete joke (I'm not convinced about Nebraska). Notre Dame played well enough to win and should be able to build upon it. I can see them being undefeated going into USC at the end of the year. And these new rules suck. Tech missed out on 10-14 points last night because of them.

The fact that they were overrated has been known in Pac-10 country for a long time. It does suck that they were so overhyped and got manhandled in a 17 point loss at Tenn (admittedly a tough venue).

Still, the HUGE black-eye of the day was the defending big 12 north champs going down to a freaking 1-AA squad. Well, that and *see below*



Dude - they're fucking overrated. They're ranked #2 and barely beat an unranked team with a terrible offensive unit (the same team that was blown out by freaking Utah last year). They haven't won a bowl game in TWELVE years.

Put down the kool-aid. :rolleyes:

Cal would have lost by more if UT hadnt put the 2nd and 3rd string D in.

You're kidding right? Tennessee decided not to go Mike Leach on them in the 4th quarter or it could have been 56-3. It's a tough place to play, but a good team would have at least competed.

Not really. The north has been a joke for years now. It hasn't been competitive since CU and NU duked it out in '01.
They, unlike Cal, went into a tough place to play their first game and came out with a the "W". That's all that counts. They will only get better. Did you see that defense in the 2nd half? It won't be long before they start clicking on offense too. Do I think they're over-rated? God yes! But I look at that schedule and can see them going into the USC game undefeated. If you can't see that, you must really had ND then and need to put something down as well.

BTW, NOBODY is the same team from one year to the next in college football.

here's my team.

GO HOKIES!

Fuck.

Just lost our best player, heisman candidate Michael Bush. Broke his leg bone; out for the year. He had 120+ yards & 3 TD's in the first half of our in-state scrimmage (UofL vs. UK), but now he's done for the year. This sucks.

I said they were overrated and manhandled. Don't know how I'm "kidding."



Remember what happened to those fine competitive teams when they hit their BCS bowls?

Did you see the offense it was defending?

They'll have at least two losses going into USC (and they'll pick up another at the coliseum).

I saw that, and that sucks.

Our stud RB tweaked his ankle against 'furd and my heart jumped out of my chest. Luckily it's just a mild sprain and he'll be back next year.

How's the depth at RB?

I was just commenting on the part where you put the 17 point loss. I was wondering why you would even put that. I know that's the accurate score, but it's misleading if you didn't watch the game.
Oh yeah. I lived in Denver at the time and my co-worker was a Husker fan. He got tired of all the hype that the 2-loss CU got that year. In Nebraska's defense... I dont' think anyone could have competed against Miami that year. They were incredible.
Yeah, that receiver of theirs was pretty strong.
Too early to get into it with you on that USC game, but what 2 losses are you counting on?

Damn, that sucks. I hope our soon-to-be Heisman candidate can come back.

I saw that awkward tackle as well... it was not a pretty sight.

Penn State, Michigan, UCLA are the most likely sources. Stanford could even give them some trouble (very good senior QB and two stud recievers against really bad Irish secondary). Even Michigan State could be a potential loss (they sucked last year too, but that didn't stop them from beating the Irish).

Meh, who cares.

Right now I care about a trap game in Fresno.

You can do that with just about any schedule in the nation, but let's break down the one's you mentioned. They have Penn State at home, Michigan at home, UCLA at home (doesn't matter because they are a weak Pac10 team since they're not USC) and Standford at home (again with the Pac10 thing and didn't they just lose UC-Davis at home last year?). Michigan St. is obviously a tough one since they lost to them last year and it's on the road, but I seriously doubt they will look past them this year.
I agree... all I care about is playing UTEP and TCU on the road and getting our star receiver back to being eligible.

They also damn near beat Notre Dame last year. Their strengths on offense play into ND's weaknesses on defense. UCLA is in the same boat. Yes, both of these are middle of the road Pac-10 teams this year - but that's good enough for a realistic chance of beating ND, imo.

I wish folks could say the same this year. Another fucking loss to the 'Noles! Gah!


Both defenses were unreal fast. That's the fastest FSU defense I've ever seen, especially that front seven. Christ on a stick, the LB's were all over Wright last night.

Goddammit. Kyle Wright, newsflash. This is where you need to step up young man. Under pressure? THROW AWAY THE FUCKING BALL!!

No shit. Those 15 yard sacks were ugly. I really enjoyed that game last night though. Very entertaining.

Correct, but ND played AT Standford last year which is why it will be different this year. Just ask the USC team last year. Playing at Mich. St. will be their hardest test this year, imo. Not saying they can't lose at home, but they have a harder time playing on the road. Then again, that can be said for just about every college team.

Wow! Good to see other Husker fans on here. Saturdays around here are sacred. I still say we have the best fan base. I was in the stadium during the opener, and was shocked to see how well we did right off the bat. Maybe we'll have a good year this year. I still don't think we'll be in any good bowl games, but maybe they'll suprise me.

At least we made him a millionaire before the NFL draft.

There's a buzz here in Austin.

This game is big. I can't wait!

Regarding Notre Dame, I may need some ketchup for my crow.

PS - Only Heinz, please. It's the best ketchup on the market, bar none.

Hook 'em!!

Hook em

More like "we got hooked" than anything.

They got their ass kicked.

Well, Tech looked like crap on the road against Carson Palmer's lil' bro, but a win is a win. And how 'about them Irish. Talk about an ass whoppin!

Glad to see the Big XII's #3/4 team easily take down a Pac-1 school.

OU v. UW?

UW was picked #10 in the Pac-10 in all polls I've seen, and it was close until late in the third.

Was there a Pac-10 v. Big-12 game that Yahoo sports somehow missed reporting on???

GO BUCKS!

Gig'em!

(even if it did come against the Ragin' Cajuns).



:p

Go Cats!

(even if it did come against I-AA Texas State).



Go Cards!

(even if it did come against Temple).

Good to see that the Big XII's #2/3 team had to take UTEP into overtime to win.

This just in! The Big XII sucks this year.

Texas looked like they had a freshman QB with no leader last night. aka They sucked.

Oregon beat Fresneck by a TD in Fresno, and controlled the game pretty well. Nice effort.

Big one coming up next week in Eugene.

First of all, you mean the Big XII's #1/2 team. Second, like I said, a win's a win. That was Harrell's first game on the road and really wasn't that bad for a sophomore. Definitely needs to improve or he'll be replaced by our stud freshman. Anyway, that place was rocking and we escaped with a win. If we only had a good kicker and Hicks eligible... Price has definitely turned that program around, so good for them.

If we play like that next week, we're going to get killed by TCU.
I don't think we suck any more than the rest of the conferences. I think there's a lot more parity in college football these days. You don't have that "stand out" team. You may say Ohio State after the game last night, but we'll see how they do the rest of the year. Losing late in the year to Michigan at Michigan is worse than UT losing this early to OSU. We shall see how this season plays out.

I don't find it funny at all.

First of all, Texas didn't SUCK, they just played the way that you would expect a team with a freshman QB to play against the #1 team in the country the SECOND GAME of the season. I mean come on people, he can only do so much. Even vince didn't start until his sophomore season, and still had one loss. Next year there will be an experineced QB with alot of key players returning. And even so, the Texas D did damn well against a supposed "high-powered" offense. Either way, ND and USC are both overrated due to the predictable media hard-on for them. They played well, but against shitty teams.

Big weekend coming up. I started to warm up last night with the Thursday night game on ESPN, but that was only interesting for 34 seconds.

Random winners:

USC (Neb)
Auburn (LSU)
Michigan? (ND)
TCU (sorry Nismo - your boys looked like crap last week)
Arizona State (CU)
Tenn (Florida)
Wazzu (Baylor)

I will make no official prediction on Oregon-Oklahoma, because to do so would be to tempt fate, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF THIS ON SATURDAY IN EUGENE:

My predictions for the 14 ranked teams playing each other:

USC (Neb)
Auburn (LSU)
ND (Mich)
TCU (TT)
Miami (Louisville)
Oregon (Oklahoma)
Tenn (Florida)

Edited for some Karma

Do they give points for faux diamond plate uniforms?

OHIO STATE, hopefully all the way. Totally enjoyed the Texas game. Mac Brown is a class act and will be back.
The news this week, Columbus Firefighters are asking for felony charges for people who lite fires after Buckeye wins. Nice. Way to show your spirit. Burn the town down.

Yeah, 5 of em got arrested in Austin for trying to burn the town down. Assholes. Just them. Not OSU in general.

TCU over TT

OU over OU! Woohoo! I won!

Florida over Tenn

Michigan over ND

and my random pick of the week

Texas State over Tonya Harding 2 (Northern Colorado)

Go Bucks!

Holy crap. The Irish are getting stomped!

34 - 14 Michigan at the half.

that last score was a gift by the prevent defense.

Press Quin and he'll fold like a paper sack!

Somebody needs to seriously teach teams to NOT stomp on our Cardinal at midfield before the game. We probably ought to put it on the game program, as a reminder for any team that feels like they need to start somethin'...

Put Miami down as yet another cocky, arrogant team to come in and piss us off by jumping on the bird...

And put Miami on the list of teams that get smoked right after doing it...

31-7, GO CARDS!

sweet!

LOL go Ducks!

Holy.

Fuck.

More later.

wow, Oregon definitely should have lost that game (even though I am a UT fan...it was kinda BS). HORRIBLE officiating. But I am happy that ND got stomped, I have been saying all along that they are way overrated.

I hope you "Big 12" people are ready for another loss!

Trojans and Huskers are up next!

edit... Tell you the truth I don't know who to root for on that one. I hate them both but since I'm living in Big 12 country and tired of hearing their BS. Go Trojans!

Bad call, I admit.

But so was the non-call on the OU offensive PI on the TD catch and the expired game clock on another OU TD. 14 points on bad calls to OU. We really should have won by 3+ TDs with good execution (16 points given to OU on turnovers, stupid penalties, etc). But a win is a win.

I'm going to go watch the last 3 minutes again - I Tivo'd the game.

Btw, lmao at ND.

Big 12 Reffing crew in that Duck game?

Pac-10, and yes, our officials suck. Not as bad as our basketball officials, but lots of blown calls. Big-12 officials seem to suck as well (OU v. TT last year).

After some reflection, it was a bad call, but 6 points from two trips inside the 5 + 4 UO turnovers leading to 16 points = OU lucky not to have been blasted.

Nismo - ouch.

pnwbeers and Duck fans, thank you for sending all the OU whiners to your boards. I figured they were going to be on our boards for a couple years to come, but looks like they've got a new home. They've got some good farkers, so I look forward to seeing what they come up with.

This weekend sucked for me, but I should have expected it after my horrible start to the weekend yesterday. This was the first time that Tech didn't score a TD under Leach since the Nebraska game in 2000. Ironically enough, that was last time we started a sophomore at quarterback. And thanks to the NCAA for holding out Hicks yet another week. :rolleyes: Notre Dame showed us all what we already knew about them being over-rated, but I would have never guessed a loss to Michigan. I might as well bench my fantasy team tomorrow so no one at least gets hurt for the rest of the year. I don't think anything else could go wrong for me this weekend, but I'm not ruling it out.

My new war cry for the rest of the year is "We want Todd!" (as in Chris Todd).

Owen Field and educk (scout boards) are both slammed with Sooners right now. In previous years they've been arrogant, but pretty decent fans overall. Now they're really turning into crybabies. :rolleyes:

Think I'll watch the game again tomorrow.

Looks like everybody is trying to keep Patrino from getting on a plane to coach a better team......

Hmmmm......ten year contract.......yeah, until someone else approaches him with something more tasty. Stanford, perhaps????

hey don't get me wrong, I am a texas fan. When OU loses, I do this--- and this----

OU should've won that game, but no matter how much anyone complains, a loss is a loss. Those damn neck collar tackles are what gets me boiling, someone is going to get seriously hurt.

As far as my team goes, not the outcome or the showing that I was expecting. For TT not to score a TD in the game is rediculous.

This just in: The Big XII sucks this year.

Hey Nismo: Big XII 1-2 team???? :rolleyes:

I've never seen such a poorly called game in the OK vs OR game. I'm pretty sure it was Big XII officials on the field and Pac-10 officials in the replay booth.

Oregon should have run away with that game but they just looked like lazy bums after they scored the first time.

I love the Michigan win! I hate Notre Dame and an ass kicking like that was nice to see.

In case you missed it, here are some of UK's highlights:

UK Football Highlights

Could be - I just thought I heard Fouts say it was a Pac-10 crew. It was a badly called game, but the better team generally emerges from those, and, well, the better team did.



That's what really kills me. We execute like we should and we have an easy 3+ TD win. OU's defense was totally outclassed by Oregon's offense. But to their credit, we made a lot of stupid mistakes and they capitalized on every one of them.

Pac-10 went 4-0 against the Big-12 today.

Takes some of the sting out of our 1-3 performace against the SEC last week.

Revel in your victory, porsche. It's about time you beat the U.

Our offense line is just that, fucking offensive. That line couldn't protect a two dollah ho at a autistic midget gangbang for chrissake. Kyle Wright is a fucking dead man walking back there.

Bye-bye Coker. Bring back Butch!!

I've got to admit. I was extremely surprised to watch our defense blitz on darn near every down, and Miami NEVER picking it up. There was only 1 play when I thought they did finally figure it out; shotgun formation, and we sent a linebacker straight up the middle that got picked up by a tail back. I thought at that point, Miami would finally get it rolling, and that they finally figured out you have to actually block the guy coming right up the middle... But nope. Didn't figure it out; turned out to be a fluke. Miami's Offense & Defensive lines played a great first 3 minutes of the game. They just looked plain terrible the rest of the time.

Serves the U right for stomping on the Cardinal before the game...

karma is a bitch, isn't it?

What the hell was the coaching staff on Army thinking?

Run the ball on the 2 yard line when there is 9 seconds on the clock and no timeouts???

Whoever called that play should be fired.

A&M got lucky they won tonight.

Funny...I don't remember cracking on UL, just their coach. Who, by the way, has a history of contemplating bailing for more money. Or, do you conveniently forget about the history of this guy? I swear, if you knew me, you would not put up smack like this...if you only knew.

Yeah, and? Like you said, the Big XII sucks this year. We lost to a better ranked team at their place. We don't have our star receiver (this is the week we hear from the NCAA :rolleyes: ). A&M still sucks. Nebraska is over-rated. Not too impressed with OU despite the fact they should still be undefeated (I'm in no way am I saying we'll definitely beat them at their place). And we have UT at our place. I not throwing in the towel yet on my prediction. I'd rather see our frosh QB start, but that's not my call. If it makes you feel better, Big XII 1-5 because we all suck.

Dude, they gave up 500+ yards. The only reason they were in the game is that we were sloppy as shit and spotted them 16 points. We play decently and it's a comfortable blowout.

Tech shouldn't have lost to TCU. They're a solid non-BCS team, but they flat out don't have the talent your boys have. By the end of the year I honestly think Tech will be much improved.

Hmm... He turned down Auburn. He turned down the Raiders. He has a 2.5 MILLION dollar a year contract... Tell me 1 single school that's looking for a coach that's willing to even try to top that kind of salary? He'd one of the top 5 highest paid coaches in the country, and is on the verge of building a dynasty. No coach in his right mind (or even out of his mind) would turn his back on that and leave.

I swear, I'm glad I don't know you. You don't seem to be even remotely rational.

WAR EAGLE

GO GATORS!!!!!!! I'm SO glad Tennessee lost!

3 points. That's all that needs to be said.

Yeah... well... I dunno what to say about the Ags...

But at least UL beat Miami and UK beat Ole Miss

Well, I talking about their performance. True, you can spin it that way, but they were doing good enough to be up 14 with under 1 1/2 minutes left to go along with still getting into field goal range at the very end. I was talking about the horrible calls in the end. Yes, they still should have stopped them.
Well, we shouldn't have, but we did. I never dreamed having a young quarterback would so hard until I saw the UT/OSU game and now this game. I guess we were spoiled having 3 5-year seniors back-to-back-to-back. We'll see how the rest of the year goes. It doesn't take much to compete in the Big XII this year, but getting Hicks back or not will play a key role.

Are you fucking kidding me? Trying winning a national title or two before you talk about "on the verge of building a dynasty". I admit, they were impressive yesterday. But until they start winning titles, let's not get ahead of ourselves, shall we?

Meh, it's a moot issue. If it fired 'em up, so be it. But playing a Miami should be enough to fire anyone up.

We're in a down period, that's for sure. Coker is toast. We need a head coach in there who can not only recruit the talent, but show them that winning is not just based on ability. The whole stomping on the Cardinal thing is typical Cane bravado, doesn't bother me in the least.

Sigh. I wonder where we're headed for this offseason.

USC another vicotry

john david booty taking over nicely for Leinart

Two Words: Gene Chizik

You lucky bastards are going to steal him from us. He deserves it though.

Hence the reason I said, "on the verge," and not claimed he had one. The guy's only been a head coach for 4 years. And so far, he's been in the top ten 2 out of 4 years, after starting with a team that went 7-5 the year before he came. Yeah, I'd say he's, "on the verge." But I won't disagree that it won't be considered a dynasty until he wins several national championships.

Yep. Stomp away. So far, 3 schools have done that in recent history. Cincinnati did it and walked away with a 70-7 beating. Rutgers did it and got smacked 56-5. And now Miami did it and got beat in every aspect of the game, including the final score of 31-7.

We don't "need" someone to stomp on the Cardinal. But it sure doesn't hurt...

It was a Pac-10 crew. The pac-10 has some screwy rule.

Wow, OU is going all out this time:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2593369

I highly doubt they throw it out because of the fact that both teams had bad calls go against them. I could be wrong though.

They won't give OU the win - that never happens. Besides, there's no way of knowing OU would have won even if they had been awarded possession. Oregon actually beat a team once when the other team fumbled a snap while trying to kill the clock on downs. Both teams were screwed by the refs multiple times on Saturday, OU just happened to get jobbed a little more directly.

Anybody remember when the refs gave colorado five downs?

well the refs were suspended

lmao!

I do remember that!

Here's a link to a good article about the blown call.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregoni...4430.xml&coll=7

Looks like he only got the view that appeared to show the ball bouncing off an OU helmut.

Another interesting clipping:

I'm a passionate college football fan, but it's just a fucking game.

Amen.

Go Ducks.

You should be ashamed. The refs call the onsides kick correctly, OU runs out the clock, game's over. That one call changed the course of the game, as the Pac 10 has now confirmed :

"The fact that the errors on the onside kick altered the outcome of the game is most unfortunate and unsettling," Hansen said in a statement. "We had a solid veteran crew assigned, and the instant replay official had a fine career as a referee in the Pac-10. We believe in the ability and integrity of each individual involved. It should be noted that not all of the seven officials were directly involved in the play in question, but the entire crew bears responsibility for every play. Game officials and replay officials have positions of great responsibility and must be accountable for their actions.

Errors clearly were made and not corrected, and for that we apologize to the University of Oklahoma, coach Bob Stoops and his players. They played an outstanding college football game, as did Oregon, and it is regrettable that the outcome of the contest was affected by the officiating."

Clearly, death threats are ridiculously inappropriate. People who overreact to that degree need a psych eval, and now.

The one second from the right looks like she has a duck bill.

She looks plenty fine to me. I'd hit it.

I was actually referring to the cheerleaders at that point... :rolleyes:

This was a poorly officiated game on both sides. There were two non-calls on two OU TD throws (offensive PI and expired clock). You wanna reverse the onsides kick call, you gotta reverse those two as well, and maybe the snoop fumble, and certainly the 6 yard gift where your WR stepped out of bounds at midfield.

34 > 33

Boohoomer Sooner!

PS - I'm starting to empathize with what Tech fans went thru last year.

They are definitely a bunch of whiney babies. I said it before, thankfully this happened because they were still on our boards before ya'll played this past weekend. Nevermind the fact that there was more proof of them screwing us in basketball with their clock operator a couple years before. And nevermind the fact that not one of them could come up with a actual proof of their claims. So, I just loved showing this off:

That's just the way things go.

Last year at WVU, an incorrect call was made near the end of regulation, during an on-side kick. WVU player bashed into our guy as he was attempting to catch the ball, and a WVU player caught it instead. It never hit the ground, therefore WVU wasn't allowed to touch it until a UofL player had. Nope. Ball went to WVU, they drove & tied the game. Then in triple OT, WVU pulled out the win.

And then WVU went to the Sugar Bowl and kicked UGA's arse. But if that bad call (which was apologized for the following Monday) hadn't been made (allowing WVU to recover an illegal onside kick), UofL would have won, and gone to the Sugar Bowl (Conference champ). But that's all history, now.

At least this was a non-conference game, with really no bearing on the season, anyhoo. OK or Oregon has a chance at a BCS game w/o winning their conference, at this point, which both still have the chance to do.

Incidentally, I found that pic of snoop "fumbling" during our rapid march deep into Sooner territory.



Umm, yeah. Bad calls on both sides. Oregon rose above their bad calls (and their sloppy execution) to win the game. OU wilted and lost.

The more OU fans, Stoops, and their president whine about this, the less respect I have for that program.

you're saying that you wouldn't whine and bitch if a ref made a call that completely changed the outcome of the game? It wasn't like hte call was made in the 3rd quarter, it was literally right before the game ended. sure they didnt stop oregon on that drive, but it was the last drive of the game, with what, less than a minute left? I think the death threats and the throwing out of the results is too far, but you can't fault them for being pissed. you can make the argument that oregon played a better game, but that is completely irrelevant, because if the ref had made the right call, OU would have won. No question about it.

True, but the bottom line is the game wasn't over at that point. They should of shut the fuck up, manned up, and played D. Then they would have possibly won the game. Instead, they sat there with their thumbs up their ass and blew it. It's their fault, period.

You want to talk about criminal negligence, I have seven words for you:

Miami - Ohio St. National Championship Game 2003.

That was criminal.

This was one call out of many that "changed" the game. You can't single this one out and say it was the only one that had an impact, because that is, frankly, bullshit. There were many BS calls against Oregon before this one.

When Oregon recovered the onsides kick, OU had a 6 point lead and could have won if they manned up on defense. They didn't.

After OU returned the ball to the Oregon 30, they could have called a good play (as opposed to no gain up the middle) and gained some yards.

After the previously mentioned bonehead play, they could have actually converted the field goal. Instead, their line got blown off their blocks and the kick was blocked.

The refs did NOT cost OU this game. Stoops and company needs to grow a pair and realize that.

I may have to become a Tech fan after all:

Link to ESPN story

I was just about to post that!!

Perfect timing since I just posted this on page 8:
Karma's a bitch!

I <3 Bobby Knight. He is such an ass!

You guys are funny, acting like you'd be all cool if the refs had hosed Oregon. I'm calling major BS on that.

I'm sure I'd be pissed, but I'm also sure I'd be rational enough realize my team didn't lose because of ONE call.

Agreed. Anybody that actually played sports will tell you that the refs never truly decide a game. You're more pissed at yourself for being in the position to let the officials influence the outcome in any way.

At the risk of getting back on topic...

Not nearly as many big games this weekend. The only games between ranked opponents are Cal v. ASU and Penn State v. OSU. OSU should have little trouble with Penn State. I don't have a good feel for Cal v. ASU. Cal looked horrible in their opener and still has no QB, but ASU has looked very ordinary against some really bad teams. Frankly neither has done much to warrant a top 25 ranking at this point.

One game of particular interest to me is actually Idaho v. Oregon State. Dennis Erickson, who won a couple of NC's with Miami and brought OSU from pathetic to top 5 with a BCS win over Notre Dame, has gone back to his roots and is now once again the head coach of the Idaho Vandals. While I'm sure Erickson will eventually get Idaho up to solid mid-major status, the team certainly isn't there yet. But Oregon State is very bad this year and Boise State provided everybody with a blueprint of how to beat them - stack the box and make them throw to beat you (they have a horrible passing offense). It will be interesting to see if Erickson can come up with a win in his big homecoming.

In most cases I'd agree. This time, no. If that one call is made correctly, game's over.

So we'll agree to disagree.

I have one final statement to make.

The refs weren't playing defense on that last UO drive. They weren't playing offense leading up to the last FG try for OU. The refs didn't look like this ( ):

It's great to be a Florida...

Michigan State - you suck. You had a piss-poor team dead to rights, and you couged it. When you lead 31-14 in the 3rd quarter, at home, in the rain, and lose, you have a very bad coaching staff.

As I understand it, ND needs only one more win to lock-up a BCS bowl.

In other news, Idaho got blasted by a terrible Oregon State. Erickson may be a good coach, but his team sucks. ASU got blasted by Cal. Losing 15 backs in 3 games is starting to catch up to SC. The damn Fuskies won.

Congrats to OU and Tech for bringing back respectability to the Big-12 with the stirring wins over Middle Tenn. State and Southeastern Louisiana.

Nah. They still have to finish in the top 8 of the BCS rankings to automatically qualify for a BCS game; top 12 to be in the consideration for one, per the new deal.

What sucks the most, though, is if they don't go to a BCS bowl game, then they are eligible to the first Big East bowl game available, provided they are bowl eligible. Which means conceivably a 6-6 Notre Dame team could go to the Gator Bowl ahead of an 11-1 Louisville or West Virginia team, since having Notre Dame pretty much guarantees a bowl game will sell out its tickets & TV advertisements. BUT, Notre Dame does not have to share their bowl game $$ with anyone... Essentially, they get the benefits of the Big East Conference, without having to pay a bloody cent. Which frankly, is the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen...

I know - it was just a domer flame on my part.

In other news, Oregon dropped 1 spot to 14 in the AP poll, still at 12 in the Coaches. Both ahead of the pOUters.

Go Hawks! This weekend Iowa vs. OSU it will be glorious.

GO BUCKS!

Oh, it's on!

I just got back from Vegas. Kind of mad that I pushed on the Notre Dame game, but I was lucky enough to get that.

As far as Tech goes... we're back baby! NCAA finally allowed our stud receiver to be eligible (seriously, take your time NCAA :rolleyes: ), just in time for the game that will make or break our season. He only had 3 catches for 59 yards and a touchdown, but he didn't play much in our blowout against a some school of the blind team. Next up, the Aggholes... errr Aggies. We would normally blow them out every year, but it's a different story when we play them at their house, home of the 12th man. There's talks of moving this game to Dallas every year in which case, we may never lose to them. Anyway, if we win, Franchione may be on his way out.



BTW, at Georgia! Tough game against those mighty Buffs.

More random, but good pictures...

In celebration of the annual A&M-Tech game...

Cheers!

Game on!



Wreck 'em, Tech!

Beat the Hell outta Tech!

Zach Thomas owning A&M my freshman Year:



Sammy Morris and Wes Welker continuing the tradition:

As most of you may know, ESPN's college GameDay is in Iowa City this weekend. And lucky for me I go to Iowa. Here are some pics from the taping this afternoon for sportscenter.





Xterra representing on the GameDay set




i guess there's nothing else to do on a friday afternoon in iowa city




I will put more up on Sunday after i recover from saturday.

Go Hawks!

Go Bucks!

WHAT A FREAKIN' CATCH!!

man... I miss rc slocum... barring a few good wins, I don't see coach fran lasting much longer...

Oregon crushed ASU 48-13. Ducks had 571 yards of total offense, and held ASU's potent offense to 135. Domination.

Next up: Cal at Berkeley. Could be dicey with our run defense.

For the many of you who don't follow Pac-10 football, this guy will be a stud on Sundays in about two years (I hope to God he stays another year):



First rounder.

Saturday night at Kinnick Stadium was electric! Best college football game I have ever been too. Made the 10 hour drive to Iowa City from Ohio and it was well worth it. Props to the Iowa fans, they had alot of class after the game. They said we had a good team and wished us well for a National Championship. That is class.

Right on. Go Bucks!

FINALLY Mack Brown let McCoy do his thing! GO HORNS!!!

its 10:11 and OU Still sucks!

How about Mizzu, eh??

USC is O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D!

I guess Oregon and Oklahoma were too!

Georgia finally lost. I thought Tenn. should have beat em by more, but what do I know.

Actually he told Greg Davis to quit being such a bitch and call some plays.

that's kinda what i meant....i wasnt sure if mack or davis was the one being a pussy and calling shitty plays

via the AP

"Brown thought offensive coordinator Greg Davis was being too conservative with McCoy, so he told him at halftime to let the kid loose."

Lets see. Road team against a balanced ranked opponent.

Oh, DON'T turn the ball over 5 times and commit all kinds of stupid turnovers.

It's games like this that make my blood boil.

yes it was a good game, we all pretty much knew it was a tall order going into that game. now all we ask of you is to beat michigan, and if we do (iowa) we can go to the rose bowl

some game pics from last weekend:

Don't be fooled by Mizzou. We spotted them 28 points. Other than that, a tough weekend for pnwbeers and me. We need to go drink our sorrows away.

Okay, I'm cooled off now.

If someone would have offered me 4-1 to start the year this season I'd have taken it. We really hurt ourselves yesterday with all the turnovers and undisciplined penalties. What surprised me the most was how poorly our O-Line played - they've dominated every game until this one. Cal sure has come a long way since then Tenn debacle. Based on what I've seen in conference play so far, they're in the driver's seat to win the Pac-10.

We dropped to 18 in both polls from around 10ish, and that isn't as bad of a drop as it could have been. Next up is FUCLA.

The silver lining here is that everyone is focused on the Auburn loss, so our loss isn't getting as much attention as it otherwise could be.

They don't say how to win. Obviously they are doing it with defense this year.

It should be a good battle between Mizzu and Nebraska in the big XII north.

It's going to be like watching the special olympics.

We'll see if you are saying that after the Auburn game this week

Sorry, but I gotta root against the Gators. They need to lose so Texas can get back to the National Championship game

Yeah, good luck with that...

Texas probably won't make it to the NC game. If that's the case, Texas will go to the Fiesta Bowl. Most likely opponent: Boise State.

That'd be ugly.

The Fiesta Bowl Game IS the National Championship Game. We all know Ohio State owns that venue.

http://www.tostitosfiestabowl.com/

No it isn't. The Fiesta bowl is one of the 4 BCS bowls that will play on Jan. 1 (others are Rose, Sugar, and Orange). The Fiesta has a tie-in with the Big-12 conference, so the winner of the Big-12 will go to the Fiesta if it isn't in the NC game.

The National Championship game will take place one week after the four BCS bowls. The location for that game rotates each year. This year it happens to be at the site of the Fiesta.

I want Michigan or Ohio St., USC, Florida, Missouri, West Virginia and even Boise St. to all go undefeated the rest of the year. That will shine a light on this crappy system once again. The more teams that get snubbed, the better.

Oh so they just happen to call it the Fiesta Bowl and it's in the same arena... OK you win.

"The Fiesta Bowl will host the first-ever BCS National Championship Game on January 8, 2007, at the new state-of-the-art Cardinals Stadium in Glendale."

Dude - read it again. They don't call the National Championship game the Fiesta Bowl. Your link says the Fiesta Bowl will host the BCS National Championship game, which is exactly right. The fact that the Fiesta Bowl is hosting the National Championship game doesn't mean there are two Fiesta Bowls this year. Next year a different BCS bowl will HOST the National Championship game. Get it? 4 BCS Bowls and a national championship game.

WTF is so hard to understand about this?

Finally MIZZOU is having a good year...doubtful they will go undefeated, but if they do, I wonder if they'll get screwed out of a top 10 vote even...

from now on, there will be four BCS bowls and a national championship, so each year one of the stadiums will actually have TWO games in it.

WTF??

When did they put this into place??

So now there are going to be 10 BCS teams?

I think there are two more teams that Texas needs to lose to get back to the N.C. game this year. Florida and the winner of the Louisville/WV game. I don't see how USC can go the whole year without losing.

This is the first year. It was done largely to appease the mids.

So there is basically just one more BVS bowl game now?

Sort of. The top two teams go to the new National Championship game, and the next 8 go to the 4 traditional BCS Bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta). Each of the bowls still has certain tie-ins to the conferences (ie, the Rose is still tied to the Pac-10 and Big-10, if that matchup is possible, and so on).

Read all about it here

Thanks. I meant BCS of course.

OH NO! We suck again!

F*n Gators.

Sorry Nismo!

Told ya!

Wow, the BCS totally f@#$ed the longhorns over.

Not just the Longhorns.

The computers are totally fucked up. :rolleyes:

How the hell is USC #1, Michigan #2 and OSU #3??



lets hope it doesn't stay that way or there's going to be a riot throughout the country.

I think you read it wrong. It goes OSU #1, USC #2 and Mich #3. Unless, of course, you're just talking about the "computer average" which doesn't mean AS much anymore (thank God).
Since I don't think there would actually be a riot throughout the country if it's screwed up, I'm wishing for the biggest mess up possible. The worse the BCS looks, the better.

Whoop!

The computers are not impressed by games against North Texas, Sam Houston State, Baylor, and Rice...

The only real possibility of change will occur is if a major conference constantly gets screwed out of the BCS title... both of the premier undefeated Big East teams (WVA and UL) and nearly every top SEC team (Florida, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee) are starting to gripe about how they will never get a shot at the title... money talks.

Here's a pretty good article in the Louisville Courier-Journal...
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs...405/1002/SPORTS

I doubt very seriously that this article would have even been written if UL was in the SEC or Big 10.

I ain't a tech fan, but scoreboard!

predictions for today?

SC over Tenn.
OU over Mizzu

I just hope the UT vs. Tech game is a good game and they don't embarrass us like last year. Then again, it is a gubernatorial year and we have beat UT on that year for the past 14 years, so there's one thing to be hopeful for.

Oregon will get back to winning.

Against Portland State :rolleyes:

GO DUCKS



GO VANDALS

I guess I should add:

GO BEAVS

Awesome win for the beavs - 33-31.

The dickwraps will lose at least one more conference game. Write it down.

Their egos will find at least some solice when they stomp the domers.

That's 2 in a row, Chris.

doh! one for two on the night...

you got your wish

I've been looking at that game since the Ohio State game because I knew it was going to be close. I sure am glad to have it over. :rolleyes:

How about USC eh?

They finally show that they were soooo over-rated. I expect USC to still be ranked higher than Texas in the BCS

Damn, that was a close game. I'm glad we didn't get blown out like the last couple years. Harrell was playing out of his mind in the first half, but then came back down to reality in the second. I don't think he's the quarterback of our future. He scored 3 points against a crappy TCU team, gave a crappy Mizzou team 28, only scored 6 against the 0-6 CU Buffs and now scored zero in the 2nd half against UT. That's like shooting below par on the front nine and shooting a 50 on the back nine. And I know Leach doesn't run the ball much, but I don't think I've ever seen us end the game with negative rushing yards.

Oh well, I can't wait to get this season over. Next year was supposed to be a rebuilding year, so I guess we wanted to get a head start on it. In the meantime, let's go Irish! You should be able to finally beat USC this year.

IT'S GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!

Payback for me whipping your ass in fantasy a few weeks ago, I'm thinkin'..

What sucks is I was expecting the Canes to lose this time around.

Awesome pics! It must be good to be a Gator... Did you get hit by any birds that far up in the stands?

Tech should have won that game... Did Tech decide to stop playing defense in the 2nd half?

Texas is going to get their points, especially considering our defense has never been good in this system. Our offense scored zero freakin' points in the 2nd half after scoring 24 in the first. I think the better question is, "Did Tech decide to stop playing defense AND offense in the 2nd half?"

Good God - I just looked at the box score for Texas - TT. Can somebody explain how in the hell a team can have 519 passing yards and only 21 rushing yards? Does Tech literally have no options at tailback or is the o-line blocking that bad? This prompted me to look up the season stats, and so far Tech has about 3250 passing yards and 640 rushing yards.

A good team to contrast that with is Oregon, which also runs the spread. So far this year it looks like we've got just over 2,100 passing yards and 1,600 rushing yards.

In total yards the teams are pretty close (Tech has just under 200 more), but Oregon is scoring about seven more points per game.

Lunch is over so I gotta quit wasting time looking up football stats.

Hey, the tickets were free. I'm not complaining!

Section 443 Row GG in da house!

Well, we lost our stud running back last year to graduation. We're now stuck playing a sophomore. He really has done a pretty good job this year, except in this game. Texas shut down the running game which isn't anything new. They did that against Ohio State too and basically everyone they've played. You're not going to beat Texas on the ground. They have one of the worst passing defenses in the nation for a reason. Something is definitely wrong with our offense this year. Could be our O-line, could be our QB, who knows. Changes will be made though. What a wasted year for us.

Join the club.

I can understand not running against Texas specifically, but the season stats show a very unbalanced attack.

Texas has looked vulnerable in the last couple of weeks to average teams. There could be a damn embarrasing BCS game in store for the big 12.

We're still getting good production out of them whenever we do run the ball. The problem is, we're not moving the ball, putting points on the board and finding ourselves playing from behind. Therefore, we're going to the air alot more than in the past.
I'm hoping for a UT vs ND matchup.

well that won't be embarrassing, Notre Dame isn't good. (almost losing to UCLA, losing to Navy at one point, barely beating purdue, michigan state, Georgia Tech) basically , they are a top 25 team, but def not top 10.

I actually meant that Texas could lose to Boise State, who will probably be in the Fiesta Bowl this year.

Notre Dame is an average team, but their passing game could give Texas fits.

Definitely not embarrassing, but they're actually pretty even with Texas and it would be a good game. We'll know a little more in a couple weeks. UT got killed by OSU. ND got killed by Michigan. We'll see who the better of those two are when they play. Even if ND loses to USC or has two loses, they'll be in a BCS bowl. There could be a very good chance those two play each other and it would be a very fun game to watch. I'll have to dust off my Irish gear and go up to the bar around all the Longhorn fans.

the only reason that people are getting yards on Texas is because their defense has been having injuries the last 2 weeks, which will be gone by bowl-game time. Boise State has not, and will not, play a single ranked opponent during their entire season. OU is ALOT different than hawaii and wyoming (their closest games). There is absolutely no comparison, I'm sorry. And as far as ND goes, getting beaten by Michigan 47-21 is alot different than getting beaten 24-7. anytime someone scores 47 points on you, there is something wrong (or michigan state scores 37??). Last time I checked Colt McCoy had a higher passer rating, higher completion rating, more touchdowns, and a higher yard-per-throw average than Brady Quinn. And don't even get me started on the ND Defense.

So yes, it will be fun to watch (for texas fans)

I agree that Boise's schedule sucks, and as one of my degrees is from the University of Idaho, I have no love for BSU. That being said, if OSU wins out they'll land in the mid teens, and Hawaii is better than people are giving them credit for. I expect them to finish in the top 25. They lead the country in offense and damn near beat Alabama at home. Their QB is a stud and they've got by far the most raw talent of any non-BCS squad (more than a few of the guys on their team will play on Sundays).

No question that Texas beats Boise 8 or 9 out of 10 on a neutral field. But, they would actually stand a chance, and it would crack me up to see an overrated Big 12 squad lose to a WAC team. Texas is pretty good, and OU is okay as well. Outside of that, the Big 12 is worse this year than any BCS conference not called the ACC. No, I didn't forget the Big Least.

Edited to add: My other alma mater is Oregon. Remember the last time you played them? In case you need a reminder, it went something like this:

What year did you graduate UT?

Everyone gets up for ND. The tradition, the jealousy, etc... I'm surprised they don't have 2 losses at this point. However, you're mistaken if you think this will be a fun game to watch for Texas. If they win that game, you might have a heart attack in the precess. ND is not winning pretty, but they're winning and that's all that matters. Same thing for UT when they play real teams. Both ND and UT's defenses has been exposed. It would make for a fun game to watch with all the scoring.

I forgot about this thread...

Just wanted to say GO BEAVERS!

OSU 33 USC 31

Sorry, guys. Had to get that out of my system. USC should not even be in the top 15 IMHO. Too many close games that they snuck away with.

Two beers for my Beavs!

I know, those are the best! I was at the nat'l championship (rose bowl) last year, and it nearly killed me!

I never graduated from UT, but i grew up in austin (born and raised), and both my parents went to UT, so I have been a huge fan and been going to games for as long as I can remember. I went to UT for one semester during hurricane katrina,though.

Fun game last night, but Louisville in deep shit if they have to play tOSU in the NC game.

GO CARDS!!!

We'll be fine regardless of what bowl game we are in. We match up better against a throwing team than a running team.

I disagree. We've seen the underdog win way too much recently in all sports. Anything can happen in one game. The problem is, there shouldn't be just the "one" game. Louisville should play the competition to see if they're good enough to play in the big game. This system sucks. And even if Louisville wins out, they still may not be in the championship game. I'm continuing to root for the biggest mess in the system possible.

You do, actually. Rush defense is around 30th in the country, pass defense is around 78th in the country.

Average Rank of Opponents' rushing offense: 76 (closer to 90 when WVU is taken out)

Average Rank of Opponents' passing offense: 73

Basically your defense has put of mediocre numbers against generally bad offenses. That's not a recipe for success against a good offensive team with balance.

Your offense is certainly good, around second in the country. Some of the luster of that goes away in light of the fact that you've faced teams averaging 66th in total defense. Still impressive, however.

I still think it would get ugly against a team like tOSU or Florida.

Where do you get your numbers?

Passing yards per game allowed: 47th at 203/game
Rushing yards per game allowed: 23rd at 114/game
Overall yards per game allowed: 23rd at 317/game

That's nowhere near the rankings you quoted.

But for comparison, how's OSU done:

Overall given up: 9th
Rushing given up: 3rd
Passing given up: 93rd at 232/game

And btw, OSU hasn't played any strong passing team yet, either. Wait 'til they play Michigan, and watch that portion of their ranking drop significantly. Not to mention, OSU's schedule hasn't exactly been that stellar yet, either. Yes, they played and beat #2 Texas. (UofL played and beat #3 West Virginia...) But OSU's most recent games have been against the powerhouses of Bowling Green, Michigan State, Indiana, and Minnesota.

I'm just saying, UofL's schedule hasn't been any worse than some of the others in the top 10. The Big 10 is the strongest conference out there right now, but not OSU hasn't played the top dog(s) in the conference yet, either. They're win over Texas was freaking stunning! But nothing they've done in the past 5 weeks shows how good (or not) they are, 'cause they've been playing the bottom feeders of the Big 10.

And I still think that our offense can move the ball on anybody. And have been able to do so for several years, now.

Our defense isn't the greatest, but they do have a tendency to be strong inside the red zone.

I don't know if we could win against OSU. But I know we would at least be in it with a chance to win when it came down to it. There wouldn't be anything "ugly" about it.

Besides, we won't have to worry about playing OSU. Michigan will take care of them.

I hope UofL makes it to the national championship game, beats the hell out of OSU, and silences all the critics...

but that's just me. Determining a championship using polls and opinion is just plain lame.

And if Rutgers proceeds to beat UofL AND WVA, I hope the Scarlet Knights proceed to beat the hell out of OSU as well... f*ck the status quo

[QUOTE]Originally posted by porsche996:
Where do you get your numbers?
[quote]

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2006&div=4&site=org

Though the numbers seem way off your numbers. Not sure what's up with the discrepancy? I did try to add in the WVU game, as it's only current through 7 games (and at 575 yards allowed maybe that's the difference?).

In any event, Louisville has just always struck me as a team that plays a light schedule and gets ranked pretty high, but then loses to most of the good teams they faced. Hell, they almost lost to Boise State a couple of years ago, and that was a pretty average team.

I'm just not buying the argument that the Big East is really that much improved this year.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion.

But give Louisville a little credit. Last season, we lost to West Virginia in triple overtime, AT West Virginia. The same West Virginia team that beat Georgia in downtown Atlanta. We lost a close one to Virginia Tech in our bowl game, but in our defense, we were using a backup quarterback, with only 2 games experience, total. And two years ago, we lost at Miami in an extremely close one, in Miami.

In the past, I'd tend to agree with you. Louisville has been a perrennial top 15 team for almost a decade. But the past 2 seasons, we've made HUGE improvements.

We're a lot better team this year than we ever have been, on both sides of the football. You don't have to be a believer in the Big East if you don't want to. The rankings for the conferences speaks for itsself. Here's Sagarin's, for your reading pleasure.

1 PAC-10 (A) = 81.03
2 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 78.94
3 BIG EAST (A) = 78.18
4 BIG TEN (A) = 76.63
5 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 74.34
6 BIG 12 (A) = 73.72

As a Pac-10 homer, I love that list. I don't know that I buy it, but I'd like to. I guess we'll see after bowl season. Perhaps I am being too tough on Louisville, but they've just struck me as an OU-junior over the past few years because they're always ranked high but always loose when faced with a good team. I understand Louisville just beat WVU, but I hesitate to call them a good year. Based on what I saw in the bowl game, Georgia wins that bowl game 8 out of 10 (and I was rooting for WVU, just so you know).

In news vastly more important than anything related to the big east, Oregon downed the hated fuskies of Washington yesterday. Snoop had 160 yards on 25 carries. Not bad for a RB with a bum ankle and bruised ribs.

Then as a PAC-10 homer, you should remember that Oregon State beat USC this year... The same Oregon state that got their asses handed to them last season 63-27 by Louisville...

The Big East is much stronger this year, mainly due to the fact that it's worst ranked team is #73. The other BCS conferences all have more teams that just plain suck. For instance, the ACC has VA (79), UNC(116), and Duke (156) [sidebar: aren't there only 117 Div. 1 football teams???]. Big 10 has IU (74), Ill.(83), and Northwestern (90). Big 12 has KU (80), Baylor (82), Iowa St (100), and Colorado (110). PAC-10 has Stanford (128). SEC has Vandy (72), MSU (85), and Ole Miss (99).

It's not so much that the Big East has improved dramatically over last year; it's that our worst teams are not nearly as bad as the worst from the other BCS conferences. Then with the top few teams being at or greater than other BCS schools, and you've got a strong conference.

Not to mention watching Michigan and Ohio State look horrible in their two games yesterday; granted they were most likely looking over their competition to a more important game, but either could have lost yesterday. Any given Saturday any team can be beaten.

Don't forget thursdays :p

Its all just talk. We'll see how good Rutgers and Louisville are in 3 days.

btw, are we playing in 2005 or 2006? As far as I know teams are different this year than they are last year.

Any given Thursday

ok, who's the one loss team that will take care of business?

Buh-bye, Louisville!

Well shit.

That's all I can say about that.

If Rutgers wins out... I don't see why they shouldn't be able to play for the title... plus if they win out, UofL can still go to a BCS game... if they dont, and the Gator and CarCare Bowls pass... UofL has been projected to fall to the inaugural Texas Bowl in Houston... a few blocks from my condo. :p

Rutgers probably won't win out, and even if they do I doubt they'll be able to pass Florida, Texas, or SC (whichever of those teams wins out). If all three win out I heard on the radio that SC probably had the inside track even though they're starting a bit lower, because they still have to play Oregon, Cal, and the domers. That plus the fact that Sagarin's had the Pac-10 at #1 all year, and SC stomped the crap out of Arkansas.

Personally I hope SC's title shot goes down in flames this Saturday.

What if Michigan wins against OSU and Notre Dame wins out? Wouldn't ND get a rematch against Michigan considering they were their only loss and it was early in the year?

This system sucks. Look at all the freakin' senarios. Someone's going to get screwed. I agree with Mineral though. If (and that's a big if) Rutgers win out, they should be in the big game. They are in a BCS conference and they should get their shot ahead of a 1 loss team.

Ya gotta love the boys from Jersey.

Louisville wins that game 8 out of 10 times. I've never seen so many blitzes in my life.

However, the loss opens the door for 4 teams as I see it. Florida, Texas, Auburn, and USC.

I (still) just don't see USC winning out. If they do win out though, they go because the computers are all over their balls like magnets on the refrig. :rolleyes:

Cal gets screwed again because they are too far back and they don't have much more than USC left.

Go Oregon!

Why not Notre Dame? I don't get it. If ND beats USC at USC and Michigan beats OSU, ND will probably get ranked ahead of UT in the polls. They already have a better computer average. I just don't get why everyone eliminates ND from the equation. I must be missing something.

because they are bad

plus, USC will lose at least once more before they play ND, so it will not really help them to beat them. If florida wins out, they will go, unless Michigan beats OS in some crazy triple overtime victory-then it could be a rematch. i think that texas will easily win out, but they have to depend on other key losses in order to get to the National Championship

Yeah, well under my senario, they will have one loss with that loss being to the best team in the country. Yeah, real bad. Not to mention the Heisman winner if that senario were to happen.

R.U.T.G.E.R.S!!!

Lets hear it for the U of NJ!

LOL

Someone likes to dream.

This coming from the same person who though Texas Tech would be the top team in the big 12

Brady Quinn is an overrated baby :rolleyes:

ND won't get high enough in the human polls to get into the NC game. They've had too many close calls against pretty mediocre teams, and their only convincing wins have been against downright bad teams.

Don't worry though, Nismo - with 2 losses they'll still get a BCS game. I know it's early and we don't know who they'll play, but I'll go ahead and guess the score at 48-14 (with the domers scoring 14).

I believe we're well over a decade now without a bowl win (and something like 8 or 9 straight losses).

So let me get this straight. Texas Tech is a bad team. If it weren't for the refs for the most part, UT would have lost to Tech. Yet, UT moved up in the polls. ND went to Georgia Tech and won, went to PSU and won. Hopefully they'll go to USC and win along with Michigan beating OSU. If so, they'll move up in the human polls. At least passed UT who lost to the weaker team between OSU and Mich. A win is a win and it doesn't matter how you get it. OSU barely won against Illinois. Michigan had a tough game against Ball Freakin' State. I guess they should move down because they barely won over bad teams.

I realize that there's a lot of football left and my ND senario will probably not play out, but if does... ND should be ranked ahead of the other 1 loss teams.

UT won because they were better, I saw no problems with the refs. If you are talking about the dropped pass call, that call was correct, because he dropped the ball without contact. look it up. second ND barely beat really crappy teams a couple times(michigan state, purdue, UCLA), it wasnt just one bad game, like OSU or michigan . Just because michigan was looking ahead doesn't mean anything, almost every top 10 team has done that once this year. And where do you automatically get that Michigan is better than OSU? I think that they are both really good, but it is way too close to say who is the better team for sure...we will see that in a week. either way, i think it is better for ND to sit out this NC, they would get embarrased. (oh and brady quinn isnt that good...he has worse numbers than Colt, who is a freshman)

wtf, dude?

You sound like a pOUter. I thought you were better then that. :rolleyes:

Naw, dude, I never said that was THE reason we lost. Just one of the reasons. All we had to do was score one TD in the 2nd half and we couldn't do it. However, even the real UT fans said the refs did a poor job in their favor. I'm sure the real Oregan fans admitted that after the OU game. Still, it's hardly ever the real reason the other team lost, but it's disappointing that they couldn't call a good game. Like I said, it wasn't the main reason we loss. It's a shame that we don't have the reputation of a OU, USC, Miami, etc. or you would have really heard about it nationally. Think about the mehem if those calls went against UT and aided Tech to victory. Oh well, life goes on and here's to my Red Raider hopefully giving the pOUters a good game tonight in Norman.

Oh yeah, I never said Michigan was better or definitely going to beat OSU. I said "if" they do win. All this talk is a "what-if" senario. Also, a Michigan win all but seals the deal for that "over-rated" Brady Quinn as Heisman. I mean, he's so "over-rated", he may drop to the #2 or 3 pick. :rolleyes:

you're right, the number one and number 2 pick from last year weren't overrated at all :rolleyes:

You're joking, right?

Do you think that Mario Williams and Reggie Bush have had great years? Bush isn't even close to being the rookie of the year. The saints are doing everything they can to get bush involved, and he still isn't doing great. imagine how bad he would have been if he went to a team that wasn't as creative with him as the saints are. Colston went 3 picks from the end of the draft in the 7th round, and is one of the best wide recievers in the league...rookies and veterans.

*WHEW!* That was a close one!!!

GO GATORS!!!!!!

michigan wins again! go big blue. next week is the big one....

First, Mario Williams wasn't over-rated. Being over-rated comes from the media and they all thought the Texans were stupid. There was hardly any hype on Mario except by just about all the NFL scouts which we don't really hear much about. Turns out, Mario is getting better and better each week and is already playing better than people thought. Bush started pretty good, but is slowly on the decline (will be interesting to watch). Vince Young found out that the NFL is going to be alot more difficult than what he had at Texas. With all that said, it's way too early to decide if any of those three are a bust. We'll revisit this at the end of next season, but calling them over-rated right now is foolish.

back to college.... COLT!!! NOOOOOOOO!!! why now?

ugh, that injury hurt UT pretty bad.

wth? I've never seen so many injuries for one team in my life

a great team would have been able to pull that victory out. We didn't have that team tonight.

A win over aTm is all I want now.

Fuck.

Karma got us all for making fun of Louisville.

i just hope he is back so we can be in the fiesta bowl.

Go Bucks, Beat michigan!

Karma is a bitch isn't it?



I thoroughly enjoyed watching the K State victory over UT again on ESPN Classic this morning... Nice way to crawl out of bed on a Sunday morning...

You did see the A&M game, didn't you?

Don't worry Nismo, They have to live through other teams because they know they can't beat Texas...

...

or Texas Tech

Go Tigers!!!! Am I the only clemson fan?

Yeah - Clemson blows.

Sorry.

That was a tough loss... but it was not one that wasn't unexpected... it's been a tough year to be an Aggie fan... what with games decided by a few points in the last few seconds... I swear the decisions the coaching staff makes can make one grow old fast...

On the other hand, I take pleasure whenever t.u. goes down... that way I no longer have to hear horns gloat as much...

Go Kentucky Wildcats! Winning three consecutive SEC games for the first time in seven years... bowl eligible for the first time since 1999!

Here you go Long, a personal favorite of mine.

When your coach leaves Kentucky for Baylor... sigh... It's a tough life climbing from the cellar to mediocrity in SEC East Football... Wildcat fans are simply happy to go to a bowl... any bowl...

u r

As a long suffering AZ Wildcat fan with no bias, the current rankings should be Florida 1, USC 2, Michigan 3, and OSU 4.

The only Quality win Ohio State had is the 2nd game of the year against then #2 Texas , but now we see that TX is not as good as predicted, and the only decent team the Longhorns have beaten is currently #24 Nebraska

Michigan has also played abunch of nobody's, but has a big win over #5 Notre Dame , who does not deserve that ranking. The Irish have beaten....nobody of consequence. They also beat Wisconsin , but who have the Badgers beaten that is worth a damn?

Florida , has beaten several good, bowl bound teams, including LSU, Auburn, & Tennessee, all in the top 25, and should win out in its last two games. If they lose the SEC championship (prolly against Arkansas), then they will lose their shot at the title, an deservedly so, but atm, they are the top team.

USC , whom I hate, got tripped up by Oregon State, but has beaten: Arkansas, Oregon, & Nebraska (all ranked), and still has to play #15 Cal, #5 Notre Dame (over-rated), and a UCLA team that is no pushover.

Living in AZ, where the game will be played, I would prefer to see an OSU or Michigan play Notre Dame. If only for the exposure and $$$ the game would bring to the Phoenix area. However, if USC wins out its remaining 3 games, they deserve to play for #1 against Florida (with SEC win). OSU and Michigan do not have the quality wins necessary to show they earned a right to play for the National Title.

I know, several games left to play before anything is decided, but tha is how I see it atm.

I will now put on my flame suit and grab some popping corn.....

I pretty much agree, except for the fact that Florida barely won against both tennesee and barely lost to Auburn, who proved themselves to be overrated as well, oh and SC. OSU did beat texas when their defense was healthy and they were holding back McCoy, but nevertheless it was still a good win (Texas also beat OU...that game can always go either way...and i also never thought that UT deserved to be in the national championship this year, even though i am a diehard fan) nevertheless, USC, if they win out, i still think is worse than both michigan florida and OSU. when usc beat arkansas, they had a different QB and a confused running game. Notre dame is way overrated, but i would also love to see them just completely destroyed by OSU or Mich in the Nat'l Championship. Cal is overrated too. I think the best matchup would be the winner of OSU-michigan and the winner of the SEC (assuming that the winner does not have two losses...which in that case maybe a rematch of OSU & Mich. or Rutgers if they are still undefeated). I know, I know, rutgers actually sucks even if they are undefeated, but it would be interesting to see HOW sucky they actually are.

You're kidding, right? Two one loss teams should be ranked above two undefeateds from a traditionally good BCS conference (one of which has DESTROYED everyone they have played with the exception of one game)?

When OSU wins Saturday they will have beaten two #2 teams in the regular season. I think it will be the first time in history it's happened twice in the regular season. Then they have to beat the current 2nd place team to win the National Championship. So in short they have to beat the #2 ranked team 3 times to win the NCS. Anyone else ever had to do that to win a NCS?

USC is overrated. They've been dodging bullets all year and they'll get hit before the regular season is over with so I highly doubt they'll be in the NC game.

Florida- potential to win out they might be there in the NCS game but I don't see either OSU or michigan losing to them.

michigan- undefeated up to this point but to face a strong Ohio State team that has been ranked #1 since the preseason. Tressel is 4-1 vs michigan.

Notre Dame- Totally overrated. They too have been dodging bullets shot by bad teams and will probably drop one to USC.

Ohio State- undefeated. Spanked UT in their house. Easy schedule this year so should have healthy players for michigan game. Again Tressel is 4-1 over michigan.

In truth I think the NCG will be played this weekend. Whomever wins between Ohio State and michigan will win the NC.

...with that said,

GO BUCKS! Beat michigan!

The new michigan quarter should be minted after Saturday...

Now, I'm not saying Notre Dame is over rated or under rated, but how have they been dodging bullets more than anyone else?

They have only had 3 close outcomes: Georgia Tech, Michigan State, UCLA.

USC has had as many close outcomes: Washington State, Washington, Arizona State.

Florida has had more close outcomes: Tennessee, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina.

Ohio State has had one close outcome: Illinois.

Michigan has had one close outcome: Penn State.

A win is a win.

Florida has a much more demanding schedule, though (and tennessee is alot better than UCLA and Michigan state), which means that week to week there is more wear and tear, more chance for injury, and more chances to overlook games because you have such a tough opponent the next week.

I agree that a win is a win, but you have to look at HOW they win as well.

GO BUCKS!

You know, I think the game lived up to all the hype. Sort of like the OSU/UT game last year. I think Michigan earned a rematch to play OSU on a neutral field. That's hard for me to say because I used to think it should be the winner of the USC/ND game next week. Should be an interesting next couple of weeks.

Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. I'm starting to get a bit pissed here, and our coaches are in a bind. They picked our starting QB and built the offense around him with the idea that he would improve, but he's just gone backwards since the Cal debacle. He locks on recievers and throws at them no matter what the coverage is. This is a top 10 QB prospect from a couple of years ago, mind you. Oh well, looks like we'll be going to some sort of kitchen aid, tire, or vacuum cleaner bowl this year.

tOSU/UM was a good game. I was pulling for Michigan but they did look outgunned. I don't think Michigan should get a rematch. USC is coming together at the right time so they're likely to get into the NC game again. I have mixed feelings about that. Even though I don't like Cal I frankly wanted them to best the dick wraps because I'm getting tired of them winning the Pac-10. This will be their third or fourth year in a row now.

Welcome to the club. All I can hope for is ND upsetting USC to help me feel better about this college football season. Otherwise, I can't wait to get this season over with and never think about it again. Unfortunately, things aren't looking any better for us next year.

Don't count on it - SC has really kicked it into gear the last couple of games. I don't see that the domers have much of a chance.

I still have hope for next year. The defense can finally get healthy, and we have some very good defensive players coming in. On offense all of our skill players are back and our O-line should again be solid. The only question mark is QB, but I think we'll see improvement there. As I noted above, Dixon (current starter) is a blue-chipper with loads of talent - if he can get his head on straight for his senior year we'll be dangerous. If he can't, I think you'll see either Brady Leaf or Nate Costa. Leaf is the older of the two, and from the outside looks like the obvious starter. Costa fits the spread better, however, and has looked extremely promising. The other thing that helps us next year is that our schedule won't be nearly as brutal. Michigan on the road will suck and we'll probably lose, but all of our tough conference games will be at home next time around.

We have a blue chipper qb that started this year. The problem is, we also have 3 blue chipper qb's sitting behind him in line (one of them transferred from Arizona St). It will be interesting to see if our coach goes with the guy that really didn't show much this year (as far as I'm concerned) or if he'll truely hold a tryout in the spring (like any D1 coach should do). Based on Leach's track record, a lot of us aren't banking on a fair tryout which is shame. I'm not sold on Harrell as our QB.

Who knew Philip Rivers was a Tech fan. Actually, more like a Bobby Knight fan, but we'll take the free pub. I wonder if he would be wearing that shirt if he loss to us once or both times he played us:

http://www.chargers.com/news/advanced-me...diaBitrate=300k

Since it's Civil War week:



Odds are we lose, but if we can limit turnovers and get consistent QB play we can still win this one. For the curious among you, the Civil War is the oldest college football rivalry on the west coast, and one of the oldest in the nation (something like 4th or 5th, I belive). It was first played in 1894. Oregon leads the series 55-44-10.

Karma strikes again!

Texas A&M 12 t.u. 7

3 missed field goals, pile of turnovers, and we lose (barely this time). Story of the season. Oh well. At least we'll get a manageable bowl opponent.

Ark-LSU was a pretty good one yesterday. Today I'm interested in BSU-Nevada (sort of) and of course dick wraps v. domers.

Apparently somebody finally told the A&M defensive coordinator that you'r supposed to have a game plan before the game, not wait until you see how they are playing and make adjustments at half time. And this is the result of what happens when you do.

Thank you A&M, you sent OU to the BIG 12 Championship!!!!

Wow... Nacho00X... 13 posts since Jan 2001... longtime lurker eh?

Yeah I read almost everyday but never post, I am the lurker king.

USC-ND went about as expected, though ND scored more than I thought they would. In any event, it was a beatdown. I expect another beatdown in their BCS game. This loss makes it 15 years without a bowl game, give or take a year.

USC will beat UCLA and with that should get them into the NC game. I'll grudgingly root for them because they're a Pac-10 team, but I don't think they'll beat tOSU.

Oregon looks destined for Vegas against BYU. Vegas will be a fun destination, though I doubt I'll make the trip this year. I just hope we don't lose to a MWC team. :rolleyes:

You saw the same game, right? Yes, USC won and would have won no matter what, but ND shot themselves the whole game. They had their chances and they blew it. A "beatdown" is a overstatement.
I'd hold off on that.. Depends who they play. Michigan would kill them again, but I don't see any of their other potential matchups beating them.

Awesome.

It was nice to see UT taken down another peg. So much for Vince not being the team last year I guess. Same team - Vince = top 20 team.

Exactly. Mack Brown (Coach February) goes back to being the average coach he is. It was pretty clear last year from the outside looking in that VY took over the games and Mack really didn't have much to do about anything except the fact that he recruited him.

i guess when it's the first time you've beat UT in six years and only the second time in 32 tries in austin, you can be really proud.

yea, I've never heard the same sort of things from A&M fans the last 6 years. derrrrrr. no one was complaining, we realized all the stuff that went wrong. you played a better game. Next time we will...I predict 5 years before you beat us again.

I just find it amusing that A&M has to try to rub it in our faces so bad every time they win. T.U...wow really creative. Inferiority complex anyone?

Superiority complex anyone? :rolleyes:

I don't recall when or if this has come up before, but when did you attend UT and what degrees did you earn there? Seems like USC, Texas, etc. have a lot of bandwagon fans, so I'm wondering if you're one of those.

4th post from the bottom.

I'm not a fan of either aTm or UT. I'm an Ohio State fan. Just calling it like I see it.

Haha... "Texas University" wouldn't bother them if they didn't think they were "The University of Texas".
It is all in good fun.



As for this year's game, A&M has every right to rub it in... it's called bragging rights... the 'horns just aren't used to being on the receiving end in awhile...

If your going to whine, you should at least get it right. It's not T.U. it's tu (little t, little u, no periods since it's not an abbrevation for anything).

Not sure where you got your stats but you should check them. 32 tries in austin would put it that all the way back to 1942 (64 years) since they alternate the game location every year and I don't think we played multiple times against each other for a long time, and A&M beat tu in Austin in 1956, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1994. So unless your only 11 years old you should remember many losses to A&M at Austin while you were growing up there.

TAMU Class of '83, wife's class of '85.

I do remember a couple of those now, I was just repeating what ESPN had said about an hour before i posted that...I guess they need to check their shit, they must have been talking about when a team was ranked or something. you are right, A&M was the first state school in Texas. That automatically makes it a better school... . The academics, sports, and the shittiness of the town it is in has no effect whatsoever . (yes, I have been there multiple times...the people are nice, the place sucks..and don't get too upset, I'm not saying you're stupid, its all in good fun)

And just so you know, texas and A&M have played EVERY year since 1915 (from the official ncaa record books), and started the series in 1894 with the 3rd longest rivalry in college football. the record is 73-34-5 in favor of texas.

The only thing good to ever come out of College Stations is Freebirds and Wings and MOre.

Mmmmnn... Freebirds burrito...

Well so much for OSU v. USC...



If Florida wins tonight, it should be interesting who gets the #2 vote from the coaches... the Gators or the Wolverines?

As much of a mess the BCS is now... can you imagine what kind of POS the BCS would be if Ohio State had lost a game this year?

As it is right now, Michigan should have it hands down. Florida is behind - they better blow out Arkansas the rest of the game to hope to have #2.

If Florida wins, they better get the chance. Blow out or not. They deserve it. Michigan had their chance. Florida loss at the right time and Michigan didn't. That is supposed to be important criteria for this crappy system.

Well it looks like Florida just made things interesting. I'm torn between wanting an OSU michigan rematch and wanting to see someone else play OSU for the National Championship. michigan had their shot at OSU and if not for some poor play by other teams we wouldn't be having this conversation. An all Big-10 NC Game would be cool but I think I'd vote for Florida to go to the game.

Go Bucks!

GO BLUE!!! Michigan has one loss, to OSU by 3 points...other then that they have been great and because of that they should get their second shot at OSU. GO BLUE!

Debating the merits of two worthy one-loss teams is exactly why the BCS is a big fat piece of

My prediction:

FLORIDA WILL BE NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!!!!!!

GOOOOOOOO GATORS!!!!!!

Should they get to play OSU....not a chance.

If Florida gets to play OSU, does that make the Rose Bowl a Michigan/USC game? Or will LSU overtake USC to get to the Rose Bowl?

THANK YOU MOUNTAINEERS!!!!!

Y'all were scaring me for a while, but you pulled it out.

Looks like the CARDS are going to the Orange Bowl. Shame we have to play the weakest BCS team (Wake Forest), but hey, I'll take a win!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/1 2/03/bowl.projections/index.html

According to SI.com's projections, if UF goes to Glendale, then it appears the Rose Bowl is a traditional Pac10-BigTen matchup of USC-Michigan... and a bunch of LSU fans bought tickets for the wrong bowl... :p

Said the fan from the "Big East."

It'll be intersting to see how things shake out tomorrow.

If nothing else, at least we'd get the right matchup back in the Rose Bowl. Seeing anything but Big-10 v. Pac-10 in the biggest bowl of them all is what it must be liked to watch your sister get raped. It still makes me sick that Texas crapped all over it the last couple of years by just being there.

If anybody was able to stay up last night, Hawaii-Oregon State was actually a really good game. I only made it 'till about midway through the third quarter, however. Games on the rock suck for mainlanders.

Yep. The "weak" Big East that has 3 teams ranked higher than the best ACC school...

And if you like percentages... 37.5% of Big East schools are ranked higher than ALL the ACC schools...

I'd much rather get into the Sugar Bowl, to beat up on LSU. That'd be just as easy a win as over Wake, but it'd give us more "credit" in the eyes of the football gods.

Okay Porsche, you convinced me - the Big East is better than the ACC this year. Congrats on the big achievement.

It'll be interesting to see how the BCS bowls shake out this year. Florida or Michigan? Personally I think it should be Florida, though I think Michigan is the better team.

Louisville will not beat Wake.

Jealous that Texas provided two of the better games in Rose Bowl History?

One against the Big 10 and one against the Pac 10

or perhaps you are jealous that cal got shut out of the rose bowl two years ago and then promptly got slaughtered by OU?

Right...

So you're saying Louisville won't beat a team that beat Duke by 1 point, NC State by 2 points, and North Carolina by 7 points?

Right...

Wake will be lucky if they get beat by less than 30 points.

If it makes you feel any better, the Big East is 3rd behind the Pac-10 and the SEC. 3rd best conference out of 5 ain't too bad. And a huge step up from where we were two years ago before we joined the conference.

and Texas Tech.

Well it's official...

Gators and Buckeyes for the title...

As it should be. No reason seeing a rematch. Florida will probably get killed, but they deserve the chance.

This system sucks. A championship game and like 50 meaningless bowls. I wish everyone would only watch their teams and that's it. That will bring the ratings waaay down.

I'm jealous of nothing, I just don't like seeing the grand prize for the Pac-10 and Big-10 given to a team from any other conference.

The old days of the Pac10 vs the Big10 are over for now. If anything gets changed it will probably be for a playoff system which would further dilute the chances of a traditional Pac10 champs vs Big10 champs game.

Go Bucks!

Not necessarily... see UM vs. USC

Some early lines I found:

BYU -5.5 vs Oregon
tOSU -8 vs Florida
USC PK vs Mich
LSU -8 vs ND
Okla -7 vs BSU
Louisville -10.5 vs Wake
Hawaii -8 vs ASU

Is michigan the Big10 Champ? No. Refer back to my original statement.

OK---> "The old days of the Pac10 vs the Big10 are over for now."

I wasn't aware that your original statement had "champ" in it. I believe the Rose will pick Big10 vs Pac10 if possible as is the case this year.

Since inception of BCS:
1999(*) Wisconsin-UCLA
2000(*) Wisconsin-Stanford
2001(*) Washington-Purdue
2002(X) Miami-Nebraska
2003(P10) Oklahoma-Washington State
2004(*) USC-Michigan
2005(B10) Texas-Michigan
2006(P10) Texas-USC
2007(*) USC-Michigan

The Rose Bowl is Required to pick up any available Big 10 or Pac 10 team.

At least ya'll have a coach that's going to stay at your school. Apparently Leach might take a step sideways and go to ASU or take over the Maimi job.

I heard Norm Chow may go to ASU, but Leach wouldn't surprise me either. ASU isn't a sideways step - it has a lot of advantages over Tech (not least of all, it's one hell of a lot easier to recruit there). Miami has even more advantages, but the pressure would be higher there.

I hope not. No disrespect to Leach, but I want Jeff Fisher (with Chow as coordinator) if he gets the ax in Tennessee. But the way the Titans have been playing the last few weeks, I'm not sure either will get sent packing.

Man, I'm pretty torn on this BCS title game. On the one hand, I can see why Florida got the call. Michigan lost their last game of the season. Tradition dictates that if you lose that late in the season, you're out. Of course, that didn't stop Nebraska from being picked in 2001 despite losing their last 2 games, and they promptly got their ass handed to them (should have picked Oregon).

But, let's face it, Michigan is the better team. Their defense is stacked (disappeared against OSU, but that wasn't all that surprising), and the offense is a lot better then people give it credit for. Obviously, Hart is a stud. Henne makes plays when he needs to and doesn't make too many mistakes. Mario Manningham and Steve Breaston are one of the most potent receiving duos in the country, and the special teams are solid as well.

Florida on the other hand, just hasn't impressed me at all this year. The one game Michigan lost was to OSU, and that was a neck and neck race. Florida got pummeled by Auburn. Any Florida fan, Lizz included, knows Auburn pwned their ass. And let's face it, Auburn ain't Ohio State.

Mark my words. Florida is going to get their ass handed to them, shades of Miami v. Nebraska '01. Which can only be a good thing for the rest of us, and that will only continue the push to a playoff. Hopefully it will be sometime in my lifetime.

ASU IS a lateral step. They haven't mattered in how long and even then... how much? Leach would be starting over again? They play in a weaker conference. If it's easier to recruit there, why has Tech out recruited them every year since at least 2002? West Texas football is like the high school football capital of the nation. With the facilities we're getting at Tech, recruiting will be even more easier. Besides, people who say that never been to Lubbock and have this preconceived idea. Sorry, I just don't buy into the whole recruiting b.s. If that was true, CU would have the number one recruiting class all the time and Notre Dame would be screwed.

As for Miami, it would obviously be a step up. But like you said, they have their problems and he'd always be in the spot light. He's got a great situation at Tech and he'd be stupid to leave. That's why we'll have Bobby Knight for at least 10 years.

OK---> "The old days of the Pac10 vs the Big10 are over for now."

I wasn't aware that your original statement had "champ" in it. I believe the Rose will pick Big10 vs Pac10 if possible as is the case this year.

Since inception of BCS:
1999(*) Wisconsin-UCLA
2000(*) Wisconsin-Stanford
2001(*) Washington-Purdue
2002(X) Miami-Nebraska
2003(P10) Oklahoma-Washington State
2004(*) USC-Michigan
2005(B10) Texas-Michigan
2006(P10) Texas-USC
2007(*) USC-Michigan

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You are dense.

"...If anything gets changed it will probably be for a playoff system which would further dilute the chances of a traditional Pac10 champs vs Big10 champs game."

I mentioned champs.

Now back to the subject...

I think michigan beats USC easily this year.

Knight has been at Tech because no one else would have taken him at the time.