Vote for Diesel Engines for all types of Xterra in USA

Vote at this web site :
http://www.petitiononline.com/Xterra/petition.html

To: Nissan USA
The goal of this petition is to request the importation or the release of a diesel version of the Xterra SUV of all years. A diesel version motor 2.8 turbo diesel 132 hp is already available in Brazil and we want it here in USA also. We encourage all the Xterra owners , future owners and fans to fill this petition.

Excellent idea!

Why on earth would you want 132hp? If I were looking for a diesel I would want more than 132hp.

I voted for it!! If for no other reason than to get the cool hood they have and actually have the scoop be useful!!

Just because it has 132 HP, doesn't make it weak. Diesel engines make up for weak HP numbers in their torque.

Signed..

The diesel engines we have in our miltary hummers is only rated at 150hp and they haul around up to 10,000 lbs on the truck itself plus a trailer. Just imaging what 132hp diesel could do in a truck that weighs half of that.

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Done

show me one single petition from petitiononline.com, that's actually changed anything. And then I'll go sign the silly thing...

It's a waste of time. Nissan isn't in a hurry to bring a diesel here; nomoreso than any other manufacturer? Why? 'Cause the public perception is horrible (thanks GM...), and our diesel emissions rules mean they have to design/build an entirely new engine, to meet it. Nissan's too small of a company, to build a seperate engine for such a small niche market. Cry all you want; it's just not gonna' happen anytime soon.

Jeep did it, and I (almost) love them for it.

160hp, 300 ft/lbs of torque and 27 mpg on the highway....and lower CO2 emissions. 300 ft/lbs!!- imagine that crawling rocks.

No one here can even pretend to know what will happen in the next few years...perhaps hybrids will keep booming, perhaps fuel cells, perhaps diesels.

A few years back people thought hybrids took three days to get to 60mph, were tinny little two seaters with bicycle wheels, but look at the new civics and accords- they rival the gas only powered models with 50% better mph numbers.

If Nissan, or anyone else thinks people are going to keep putting up with 15 mpg they are seriously mistaken. Just look at GM's numbers. Sure the bulid quality is a factor, but if Jeep were to put the diesel in a Wrangler...that would be a great vehicle....and it would certainly sway me in that direction.

Just look at the posts here in the last couple of months- the #1 reason people sell X's is the gas milage. I think we are going to see a lot more diesels cropping up, and it would be great if Nissan looked in that direction.

Not that I'm arguing w/ you. I would absolutely love a diesel engine.

But, to play devil's advocate... You need to look back more than just a couple months; the #1 complaint about the Xterra, Frontier, Titan, Armada, and Pathfinder, is gas mileage. And it always has been. This isn't anything new on the Nissan front. The VP of Nissan North America was even quoted, back before the current gen. of Frontier & Xterra's came out, when bluntly asked about fuel economy, that it was NOT a concern in their design. They were concerned about power, for their engine. That's all.

That alone says Nissan, currently, couldn't give a rats ass about fuel economy. And who can blame them? They're hitting all-time sales highs, right now. And that's w/ their shibby gas mileage in darn near every vehicle they make.

I've wanted a diesel for years. I just don't think an online petition is going to make one rats ass-hair of a difference.

Nissan is bringing the Diesel to the Titan in the next year or so, why not the Xterra???

SIGNED!!!!!!!!! Sometimes You just need more torque to turn tires in the mud....

A co-worker just came back from Finland. His rental mini-wan while there had a diesel engine and a manual transmission. That almost makes the mini-van cool. Diesel are a lot more popular outside of North America.

Diesel gets my vote, but I will never run out and buy a Libby.

I dont know about everywhere else but right now diesel is running about $2.50 gal and regular unleaded is about $2.08. Kinda negates buying a diesel to save on fuel costs. I'm still signing the patition though.

Not really, because you can run Diesels on Bio-Diesel or straight filtered Waste Vegatable oil (which is free).

say bye bye to your warrentty if you do that!

True, just wait till your warranty is gone...or take the risk.

My dad has been doing it for 40,000 miles on a 1997 Passat and has had no problems.

Diesal will make up their hp with a crap loud of torque, BUt 132 hp seems low, how about 180 to 220 hp diesal engine, that sounds more resonable, and are u sure Military hummers use 150 hp engines, that sounds weak.

Positive. I looked it up in the manual the other day. Don't know about the new generation hummers as I've never seen one but I hear they have a turbocharged diesel in them. The old powerplants though are detuned 5.2 and 5.6 NA diesels that are rated at 150 and 160 hp respectively.

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Signed. Would have been a great thing.

Now why don't Jeep actually put it into something that's good at crawling? Imagine a diesel Rubicon!

Think of diesel hp as "continous hp" versus a gasoline's "max hp".

You can work a diesel near its max hp and still last a decade. That's why they feel fast, because you're using more of the available power during normal driving (via high torque, low rpm).

When driving around our X at 2000 to 3000 rpm, we're making no more than 100 hp or so. The diesel will probably make its full 132 hp by 3000 rpm.

Not to mention the requirements for diesel fuel to contain 15 ppm sulphur starting June 1, 2006, compared to today's standard of 500 ppm. Wait 'til you see how much more diesel costs than gasoline then.

Granted, I'd love a diesel, too. Torque rules off-road. But, by next year's low-sulphur standards, diesel will cost almost 50% more than gasoline.

Makes me glad I decided on an Xterra rather than an F-350 a couple years ago.

biodiesel which in my area is over 3.00/gal......

I work at an airport and some of the guys here at work take jet fuel (which is a diesel/kero. mix.) home to their farms and use it in their diesel tractors and farm trucks(i guess its a close mixture to dyed "offroad" diesel). so you could probably run a mixture like that (if you can get the percentages right) and save some money. im not sure how it would effect the motor in the long run tho.

I wouldnt worry about the 130hp rating on a diesel engine. If its a turbodiesel, you can gain anywhere from 50-100% power output just by installing a chip.. Diesels are a whole different animal to what most people are used to, because the power output is directly proportional to how much fuel (and air) you dump into it. Since diesel engines operate on a variable mixture ratio rather than stoichiometric (14.7:1 for gas engines), it makes it a whole lot easier to make gobs of power just by adding more fuel to the fire.

So, dont fret the power ratings.. chances are it'll blow away what you are driving now, right off the lot. Add a few simple performance upgrades and it'd be a monster making 2-3x the power output of your current engine.

For example, the 7.3L turbodiesel in my Ford F250 is rated for 225hp and about 490ftlb of torque. A $300 chip is all it takes to bump that up to ~320hp and ~700ftlb. Thats enough power to motivate my 4 ton (8,000+lb) truck from 0-60 in about 7-8 seconds, yet it gets 17-18mpg on the road. Try that with a gas engine!

The other vehicle I was looking at before I bought my 2005 4x4 S was the Ram 2500 with the Cummins Turbo Diesel (610 ftlbs and about 350hp). The engine is sweet.

Put a scaled down version of that engine in the XT, and I couldn't be happier.

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ditto, that's what i just got out of and it was rigged almost the exact same same way (BUT, the truck is only 6k {mine was a 4x4, 4dr, short box}. even the low won't push it much faster top end than now but the low end is STOUT. and upgrades are easy for power. just dump more fuel and air into it and get it out quicker. little adjusment on timing.

highway+headwind = no problem
highway+headwind+a/c = no problem
sluggish power and gear hunting w/ bigger tires and stock gears = no problem.

i know there is one in the last model but do they currently sell the 05 in a diesel somewhere ??

and more importantly, can it be brought over?

I have insider info that they are doing gasket testing on a diesel engine for the Frontier right now

True, just wait till your warranty is gone...or take the risk.

My dad has been doing it for 40,000 miles on a 1997 Passat and has had no problems.

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I agree with Lincoln. I have 3 friends that are currently making bio-diesel at their homes. 1 of them has a 2003 Jetta Wagon TDI. Biodiesel will not void his warranty. That was the first question he asked at the VW dealership.

The older cars and truck that my friends run have been converted with an additional tank to run straight grease. So now they have 2 tanks. They start there car on Biodiesel and then switch over to straight grease once the car is heated up.

I am in the process of looking for an 89 Jetta diesel to convert over to a grease system and would defenitely buy a new X if it comes with a diesel.