Gays in the Military

Talk to them? I talk to them every day. I went to that bar with friends I had that happened to be gay.

You're getting me wrong. I'm not going to dislike someone solely based on the premise they're gay. What I am saying is that it's not natural and I don't see where it's appropriate to go around making everyone believe it's normal and OK. Because I strongly disagree with your sexual orientation doesn't mean I can't get past that with the individual. I tried to understand it. I don't.

Be gay. Go sodomize the entire San Francisco 49ers franchise for all I care. Just respect the wishes of heteros who don't want to and don't want their kids exposed to it.

BTW, Digitized, I have no problem telling you to pimp your disgusting values right to your face. You can tell me I'm full of shit if you'd like. Show up on one of the large 4x4 events I put on each year if you'd like. (AZ Run VI), March of 2006 is the next one, or come wheeling in Arizona ANY TIME and I'll show you our trails. I'm not "hiding" anywhere.

What, those kind of shennanigans don't happen at straight bars?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...don't get out much, do you.

What you right wingers fail to grasp is nobody is trying to trample your religion or belief system - as long as it's NOT on government property - you know, the same property that EVERYONE, even atheists, own.

Yeah, Mobycat, but it's different wathcing a bunch of guys slow dance with eachother, tongue wrestling, and grabbing at each other's packages.

Couldn't serve, I had heart surgery when I was a child. Tried to, and they turned me away. What about you?

What killing did I advocate? Helping to protect those who can't protect themselves? Ridding the world of another tyrant? Yeah, those are terrible things we are doing. I did read the bible, and while I can't remember the exact passage, I do remember Jesus talking about helping those who can't help themselves. Maybe those who fear the Bible like you should be the ones to read it, instead of trying to tell us what you think is in there?

I'm not MAKING anyone believe anything, am I?

And if you'd honestly ever get the chance to say to someone's face that you think they're behavior is "disgusting", I weep for your children.

Oh and Desert_Rat, once you find out what "normal" is, you be sure to let the rest of us know, ok?

You got that right. Didn't they used to vote with these?

There's your problem, you don't realize that it is public, and therefore able to be used by all. Put your atheist beliefs up right next to it, but as long as the government is not lining up the citizens to go to church, there is nothing wrong with a 10 commandments display, or a menorah, or the koran. NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO BELIEVE.

why yes, I believe they did!

It may be different, but #1 you didn't have to go to the bar, #2 you weren't forced to participate.

My wife and I went to a gay bar a few Halloweens back. It was different, but the interaction was actually much more tame than going to the "meat market" college bars around town. I had the courage... or more like the necessity, to use the bathroom. I half expected some sort of freak show in there but much to my surprise, people were... well... using the bathroom for it's intended purpose.

I don't have a problem with homosexuals... but the issue of gays in the military is a difficult one. How can you publicly integrate gays without destroying the unit's interaction? When the bullets start flying, I imagine homosexuals would fight just as well as heteros. But leading up to that point, there would be a lot of strife... gonads and strife.....

Don't tempt me, dude

Yes, public. And SHARED by all.

Show me one town that is going to allow someone to put up a sign that says, "There is no God."

And nobody is forcing you NOT to believe by removing the Ten Commandments. Nor does it affect your ability to believe. If it does, I'd say it has more to do with your ability to believe than said belief. Does removing the Ten Commandments make you doubt? Nah...don't think so. Why not put them in your front yard?

That's more your problem than their's. First time I saw two guys together - I walked into a party at college. The two were on the couch all over each other. It took me aback, I admit. But a split second later, I thought, "meh...whatever."

I couldn't care less what two people do together. As long as it doesn't affect me, which it doesn't, why should I? Nobody is getting hurt, so let them get on with it.

Unlike some people here, my reaction to being hit on by a guy is the usual: I tell them "no, thanks, I'm not gay." That has ended it in EVERY case. And I'd be willing to bet the farm I know more openly gay people than most here.

HOA.

Otherwise, I guaran-damn-tee you one of my fucking neighbors would.

Ah, but that you could definitely fight on religious freedom grounds.

Now, the *size* of them may be another matter.

You go girl

I was waiting for that....(all day, like).

SNAP!

I would, but someone would piss and moan and make me take it down. I live in a townhouse association.

The part that scares the libertarian side of me in all this is that the Christian will be the first one to shove the gun in your face, the Christian will be the first one to put the shackles on you, the Christian will be the first to send you to gulag, the Christian will be the first one to waste you and your family and your friends because the Christian can separate himself from his actions via the Bible. He's not shooting your wife, God is shooting your wife because that's God's will, the Christian is just the medium. It's not the Christian who ransacked your house and threatened you, it was God. The Christian was just the medium. It's not the Christian who will exert social control and make you live in fear, it's God who does that...the Christian is just doing his duty. It's not the Christian's fault--he was just doing God's will, just following orders.

And why would he care about you anyway? Aren't you just a deviant? Didn't you shove your disgusting beliefs down his throat when you had the chance? Did you think that you could just live your own life the way you see fit? Hubris! Did you think that you could chip away at family values with your disgusting belief that homosexuality is okay? Did you think that you could destroy America with your elitist liberalism?

Hutu vs. Tutsi, Serb vs. Croat, German vs. Jew, Christian vs. you. Same shit, different shirt.

Lemme tell you something, hombre. I'm half Scottish, half Persian. I'm hairy and I stink. Guess which side I got that from?

[Hint: It ain't the Persian side!!!]
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This conversation has turned to the amusing side now.

So stop watching "Queer as Folk," bitch!

Sure have served. US Army Infantry and JAG.

Even got called back for this war.

Released now. Might get called up again.

I was born and raised a Baptist (in Hopatcong, NJ). Already read the Bible, cover to cover. This is more than I can say for most so-called Christians.

You've said how you feel about the practices of homosexuals. I don't like it either. However, the reason I won't bring Religion into the discussion is because it has no relavence in legislative or Military issues.

Wow, that the biggest load of Bullshit I have ever read.

Okay.

History books are filled to the bindings with instances in which people slaughtered each other en masse for the glory of Christ. In each instance, there was a dehumanization of those they murdered. They were called "filth", "deviants", "disgusting", "infidels", and in each instance the Christians were able to justify murdering by believing they were doing God's will, that they were defending their way of life by cleansing their culture of those who opposed God's way.

I believe, it is my honest opinion, that if there ever comes a time in this country when men knock on others' doors in the middle of the night and make them disappear, like has happened in so many other nations in recent history, that these men who will torture, murder, kidnap, cajole, and steal, will do so because they feel that they are defending their way of life, and that they have been called upon by a higher power.

And I do believe that that time will come. I don't believe that America, with its Civil War, witch hunts, lynchings, and depressions both economic and cultural, has seen its darkest hour.

What hasn't been brought up is the reason that "don't ask, don't tell" doesn't quite work. It does allow gays to serve, but there is always that hanging over their heads. You can be one of the best troops, not be open about who you are, and then have someone find out and get kicked out.

Even though you are not supposed to "ask, or tell" coworkers ask questions. So then gays have to come up with the "fictitious" boyfriends/girlfriends back home to have a reason they are not talking about who they are seeing and so on. Where coworkers will come in and talk about new relationships, or ups and downs in relationships, the gay troop has to suck it up and move on without talking about it.

I had a friend of mine that was in the Marines, and she was an awesome Marine, she was always going good. She had a friend that she had told about herself. They went to a party off base, and he got drunk and started being a jerk and wanted to get in a fight with someone. In trying to get him out of there he punched her and broke her nose. When they got back to the dorms, he told her that if he got in trouble for hitting her, he would tell on her. Some other people knew about it, and she got called in to her "command staff (I don't remember who), they already knew the story of him hitting her. So she talked to the chaplain about this, and he said to keep her from getting in trouble, she needed to tell her "command staff" about being gay, before it came from this guy. So he got in trouble for hitting her, and she got kicked out of the Marine Corp. She actually had to take someone in to talk to her Commander to say that yes, they had seen her kissing another woman. So letting one friend know about her, cost her a career she had wanted, because he was an ass.

I know when I was at Hickam AFB in Hawaii there was a sweep, where one person was getting kicked out for being gay, and they told him they would dishonorably discharge him if he didn't give names of other gay military members, so he just started listing them. There were AF, Army, and Navy people listed, I believe the Army and Navy didn't kick out the people listed, but the AF brought in the AF people and started processing them for discharge. Also with the threats of dishonorable if they didn't give up names. So with "don't ask, don't tell" you can keep to yourself, but it can still come back to bite you.

So that is one reason why people are pushing to get rid of "don't ask, don't tell", it doesn't mean they want to be completely open about being gay, but they don't want to worry about being kicked out.

Dusti
Active AF Dec 91-Aug 96
Air Guard Aug 96 - present

Yep. Thanks for describing the crusades about 700 years ago. Grubby little muslims are doing it today....every day....by strapping explosives to themselves and killing innocent people all around the world.

You're probably right that America hasn't yet seen its darkest hour. When the liberals succeed in unstitching the moral fabric the country was built upon (and they're doing a snappy job of it), there will be conflict. Hopefully when it happens, we all emerge with our country back.

And where did that Crusading tradition end? The IRA, the Anglican Church, the Inquisition, the Conquistadores, the Vatican, witch hunts, the churches and priests who condoned and conducted the wholesale slaughter of indigenous people on two continents, zie Germans in two world wars--just a tiny part of a very violent history, and all subscribers to a belief that killing is wrong, no matter the reason.
I'm just saying that when that conflict comes, and neighbor turns against neighbor, it'll be a religious man that hacks your childrens' hands off.

Being an ultra right wing Christian conservative who proudly served this country for 13 years, my opinion is this:

Gays are already allowed to serve. Don't ask, don't tell. If one were to come out and announce they were gay, act gay, make it a point to let everyone konw he/she was gay, well they probably wouldn't make it back form their tour of duty.

If you want to be gay in the military, fine. If you want to make it a point to be gay in the military, I wish you the best of luck making it back without any harm.

Us straight folk don't make it known to everyone that we are straight. We don't wear special rainbow pins or have secret code when I get the inklin' for a hummer. It is your choice, but I prefer you keeping it on the closet, because you know what queer-bait, no one cares one iotta if you are gay.

The only word that comes to mind is "IDIOT". Shahram, you are complete idiot. Why do you hate Christians so? And yes, you do hate us. Read everyone of your posts on the topic. Why? What have we ever done to you personally?

JeffW .... I understand totally what is being discussed but although in writing they are separate, once debates being perosnal morals and values are what drives most arguements or disagrements ... and usually most morals or values are derived from some sort of religion ... not always ... so although you say it was written in the end they are as intertwined as ever ...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...you're kidding, right?

So, straight folk keep their significant other secret...don't get married...don't go to the bars to pick up others...never joke with each other about the opposite sex.

Yeah....riiiiiiiiiiigggghhhtt.

You can call me names all day, but I don't see you getting off of Jesus's tit long enough to refute my points. What you got? Nothin'?

Yep, Christians are horrible people. They never do any good, like found the greatest country in the world or anything like that. I think Shazam would be happier back in Iran where everyone lives so peacefully; where gays and women get to exist freely.

Once again shazam you display how far your head is up your ass ..... shut up


Amazing how ignorant people overlook such small details about respecting what the country they live in and rely on was built upon ... maybe Shazam would prefer if we were all as prejudice, racist and ignorant as he, then we could settle this with a duel at high noon

I still have not heard one refutation of a point I've made. Not one.

All the good that Christians have done? Like found the greatest nation on Earth? You mean they just made it up out of nowhere? No one was here before? Were the founding fathers really good Christians? Is it possible to be a good Christian while decimating an indigenous population and enslaving an entire race? Or does JC overlook little things like murder and enslavement of millions of people for the...ahem...greater good? Or does it not count when they're brown?

Yeah, keep bringing up Iran...nice. Can one of you form an argument that doesn't involve bringing up my ethnicity, or spitting out blind propaganda?

On second thought, why break character? Just call me some names, tell me to shut the fuck up, and oh yeah, remember to tell me to go back to where I came from.

Show me someplace better than here.

Was I not clear about blind propaganda?

And what do you mean by "better"? Better weather? Better beaches? Better food? Better political structure? "Better" is a subjective term that...wait a minute...why am I explaining this to you? Is there somebody here that can intelligently discuss this? If I wanted to spoon-feed retards, I'd work the mess tent at the Special Olympics. Jesus Fucking Christ.

The IRA is purely political. They simply want the same thing we wanted - their own free country. Unfortunately, you also have British loyalists who want Ulster to remain part of the UK. The fact that most of them are Catholic is irrelevant. Some of the loyalists are Catholics as well.

I agree with you that the IRA is a political entity, but you must admit they discern themselves by their Catholicism. Their recent "Irish Unity" socialist policies and their complete abandonment of religious imagery and language are a result of a PR retooling since the Good Friday Agreement.
My assertion was that Christians, as a people who subscribe to a non-violent theology, are often the first to give into violence. You're right, though. Maybe the IRA wasn't the perfect example of this.

hijacked thread.

Shazam, you speak of christians as if they are the only ones to have committed acts or war or hate or whatever over the past centuries .... shake you fucking head a little .... every culture, race or creed has historical events that by today's standards are not accepted, but back then they were the way of the world .... why don't you take your racism and hatred somewhere else you ignorant fool.

Maybe his whole point is not to be the first to cast stones?

He's not being racist. He's merely pointing out that for the most part, "born again christians" wrap themselves in a cloak of self appointed supremecy, touting that because of their acceptance of Christ, they are imperically correct. IE- I deal with it constantly. A co-worker (there're several) abuses his morality on a daily basis. Cheats on his wife and family and then says , "Jesus understands, that's why he gave his life for me.." F'n disgusting

you said it.

I don't think anyone in Ireland would agree with that.

Every time I think you can't get any dumber.....

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If you're cool like Smith:

Now look who's name calling. It must be great to be so enlightened. You knew exactly what I meant when I said better. You can live anywhere in the world if you don't like what this country is coming to. Try Greenland. I hear it's nice this time of year. Take some of your liberal buddies with you and bounce ideas off the seals.

... this is getting funnier by the post ....

I for one salute you sharham,and alot of people here know what youre talking about, dont let these weirdos bring you down. People like rat are the fringe of the right wing fringe.

Shake em off man

As most Christian crusaders with the Ann Rynd hate multiplier, they have no idea of what a truly groovy guy JC was.

He would be just another "liberal intellectual coward"

Hell the term "Christian Crusader" is an oxymoron.

There have been many masacres in India trying to find out who is more Ghandi like.

Same shit happens all the time, and will keep on happening.

The more you hate, the more selfish and unforgiving you are to your brothers, the more of a "True Christian/True Muslim" you are.

“A criminal should be tortured and killed.”

“The poor deserve what they get for being so lazy.”

“Those faggots/niggers/wetbacks/kikes/dirtyirish/chinks/ragheads deserve it, they are always asking for "special rights".”

“Forgiveness is weakness, spare the rod, eye for an eye, lake of fire”

The problem is not Jesus, it’s the assholes that build churches like this:


Sneering while throwing an occasional can of old beans at:


They might as well build a 200 foot middle finger and point it to the clouds.

Find me a dirt poor little church in the favelas and Ill show you a house of God.

Their are plenty of good christians/muslims, the problem is that you will never hear of them. Their small voices are always shouted down by the louder and more attractive voices of hate and zeolousness.

Just like there are many thoughtful and just voices in the Republican party. But in this America of 2005 they will not be heard anytime soon.
Extremes are the norm, and our nation is a circus of the bizarre.

Well, I'm not much of a church goer.....

But I do have my moral beliefs. I never said anyone didn't have the right to exist and do what they want to do. All I ever said is that they keep it to themselves because I don't want to hear about it.

The world should not bow to the one percenter groups. Democracy is based on majority rule. When gays or Iranians become the majority in this country, I fully expect things to change. Until then, live with the system.

You guys need conservatives like me. It's a system of checks and balances for liberal whackos like yourselves.

That's EXACTLY how I feel about Christians. But, they can't keep their thumbs off of their neighbors' backs. And no, democracy is not based on majority rule. Mob rule is based on majority rule. A true democracy protects its minorities. A true democracy is based on the rights of the individual.

Conservatives need to get back to their libertarian roots. I don't think the founding fathers would have wanted either a welfare state OR a police state. And why should we have to choose?

PS--And I think gays belong in the military. Why? Because they've always been there. Should they be able to make a point of their homosexuality? Probably not, if they want to get ahead. Does it suck for them? Yeah, it probably does, but if they want to be there, they're gonna have to give up a piece of their civilian personality, just like every other service member. I don't understand why they'd want to be there, but who am I to judge? Most of their fellow service members, and the country at large, as much as 75% according to Desert_Rat, are just waiting for the go-ahead to stomp them into the ground. Why they'd want to sacrifice themselves for that, I'll never understand. But again, it's a personal decision, and if they want to be cannon-fodder for a society that hates their fucking guts, I say give 'em a rifle.

I don't get it. Am I a foreigner? When did I come to this country? I guess when my great-great-I-don't-know-how-many-greats-great-grandmother's vagina came over to this country and popped out a kid in the mid-1700's, I guess. What, I got a funny name and brown skin, so I can't be in your little club?

Where did I say anyone needed stomped into the ground? Don't confuse me for someone else. I don't advocate violent ways of resolving these types of differences.

Your comment around gays in the military makes more sense than anything else you've said...That's exactly what I'm saying. Being openly gay and flaunting it in the military is not appropriate. Deal with it. I don't want to hear about it, nor do I want my kids to have it stuck in their faces and being told they should celebrate gays.

Why the hell are we arguing? Cripes man.

yep. blame your great great whatever for pooping you out. technically, we're all foreigners, 'cept for a few that came over on foot way back when, during an ice age... does that really matter? You still seem to hate the country an awful lot. I couldn't give a rats ass what color your skin is. If you believe the US is the devil, and it's such an awful place, and not worth fighting for, then leave. Plain and simple.

Iceland, for one.

Too bad...it's a shame you don't have a clue what it means to be an American.

I'd like to see your source for that figure. Did you just pull that out of your ass?

Take your pick as to the number. Depending on where you look, it's between 1% and 7%.

And no, I didn't just "pull that out of my ass". I'm not gay. Things don't go into my ass and come out later...

But you want sources?

Try google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gay+population+united+states

Then start picking on results...

Wow. Didn't realize I needed to teach you how to search on the internet...

But here:

From this site: http://www.losangelesalmanac.com/topics/Population/po55.htm

But if you really want the definitive answer, the US Census Bureau statistics are summed up in this article:

http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/1000491_gl_partner_households.pdf

Please look through it, and you will see that only 0.99% of the population, as reported by the US Census Bureau (the ONLY official census in the United States), are gay.

So the gerbils never come back out?

nope. neither did the cat. (figure that's your next question)

I don't need to search, but apparently you need reading comprehension classes.

You said "less than one percent."

The percentage you gave from the census is of "COUPLED" households.

You DO know what the difference is between an individual and a couple, right?

Why do people of lower intelligence trot this out like some kind of trump card? When somebody goes to a Town Hall meeting to complain about the potholes on Main Street, does the alderman scream "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE POTHOLES, THEN MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU ELITIST LIBERAL CUNT!!!"

No? Why not? Is it because it's an argument that only a dumbass would use? Is it because it's not an argument at all, but just stale rhetoric reserved for when frustrated micropenises can't come up with a logical retort? Is that what it is?

Why don't you scream for me to move back to Russia where all the other Pinko Commies live, 'cause that's just about how timely and original your little clichés are.

Shahram;

Have you served in the U.S. Military? (any branch)
I you have , then dont worry about what others say about you, you have put your time in.

Why do we use this arguement?

Because the idea of actually changing the system, the way things work, through your representatives, governement, laws, etc., escapes you. All you do is piss and moan.

If the liberals would actually pull their collective heads out of their collective asses, then they might actually be able to get some of their positions lobbied into law. But instead of doing something about it, they sit there and whine about how bad things are... And if that's all you're gonna' do, then leave...

I promise you, if you go to a townhall meeting, and just complain about the potholes, yet give no suggestions as to how the small town will pay to fix them, they're going to tell you to leave. Why? 'Cause all your doing is whining, and whining doesn't get you anywhere.

So please. whine on. But could you at least do it from another country?

Who are these liberals you keep bringing up? Are you talking about liberal representatives? Liberal lobbyists? Are you trying to tell me that there isn't a liberal lobby in the U.S.? Or that the liberal lobby is ineffective? Who represents the liberal lobby anyway?

There are always people who will claim a religious reason for committing violent acts - have been for centuries. Judging an entire religion on the acts of a few people is really stupid. Most of the world's religions subscribe to a non-violent theology, yet most of the violent acts committed are by so-called members of these religions. I was in IRaq for a year. I saw a lot more selfish and violence prone Muslims than anything else. Hell, even some villagers said they could tell that our chaplain was Catholic because when he brought gifts to the village, he thought of everybody, not just the Christians. Has this led me to the conclusion that Muslims have a tendency towards violence? Not really. I understand that a person's actions are based on a lot more than religious teachings. Some people are just really fucked in the head. They twist things so that their actions will have a morally rightous basis, because not too many people are demented enough to want to do something wrong, knowing that it is wrong. That is why myself and a few other members here have the task of killing Muslim wackos and the SAS has the task of killing Irish wackos. BTW, the struggle to free Ireland is not an entirely Catholic enterprise. The IRA just happens to be the most vocal and claim Catholicism as their guidance. Of course, these are the same folks that kill priests.

Great!

In the news today: Gay Men Respond Differently to Pheromones

"It is one more piece of evidence ... that is showing that sexual orientation is not all learned," said Sandra Witelson, an expert on brain anatomy and sexual orientation at the Michael G. DeGroote School of Medicine at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada.

This whole thing is stupid. You guys bitching about gays are just insecure.

I say everyone should mind thier own business.

Funny, how the only person actually in the military who replied could give a rats ass one way or the other.

I personally think it's a different world in the combat zone, and if a gay made it through basic, advanced, and all the other training and tests, then they are able and willing to KILL if needed, and that my friends is all that is nessecary.

we all signed up for the same thing. the millitary has whats called a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on homosexuality; actually on sexuality in general. you dont bring that stuff to the work place. peroid. we all signed up for the same thing. to defend this great nation, and the people residing here. gay or not, its for a higher cause.

Where are you getting your information from?

There have been several service members with their own opinions.

Most of us don't give a shit because the current policy works. The way I see it, it's the gays who are complaining.

Not sure if this is cliched or not, but I tend to think of sexuality like a plumber would. Male adapters just arent meant to be fitted to male adapters! Theres a reason why female adapters fit so well to a male adapter and work right and fine.

So yes, I am anti-gay. Physically it doesnt match up and morally its wrong too. (at least in my humble opinion). Does this mean im insecure? Whatever you want to think. It's the oldest retaliatory excuse in the book, and its cheap and unoriginal. I have gay friends (as do most people) and have no problem getting along. I just dont agree at all with their "preference".

Gays in the military is an even stupider prospect. If they want to be gay, fine, but you better keep it to yourself while working. Conform to the normal accepted military dress code (that weve abided by since our country was started!), dont be hitting on other guys, and dont expect these ridiculous military gay pride rituals!

ok, offroaders may not be all rednecks but we never seems to be too far from slightly pink. we are improving, at least we are willing to drive a car by a Japanese company (unlike the ultraconservative jeep drivers they are likely all southern baptists0
but I am disappointed at the lack of creativity. it seem all reasons suggested for not allowing open gays in military has been used half a century ago for keeping the military from racialy integrated. (just replace "gay" with "nigro" in all the above postings), including that shower stuff. the only difference is, of course the african americans cannot keep their "blackness" to themselves

cannot come up with anything new?

who gets to decide whats natural and moral?
the church that once said the world is flat? or
the church once said slavery is moral? or
the church saying women should obey men?

Isereal military has open gay policy and you cannot question their combat effectiveness

been gay is not a choice no matter what your parents tell you, simple genetic alteration can produce homosexual behavior in insects and animal.homosexaul behavior has been documented in oldest culture. We are looking at random genetic variation which has been stable throughout human history. Which means you son or daughter can be gay or your parent could be closet gay

I don't think all people who do no belief in homosexuality are insecure about their sexuality. most of them are just following their beliefs. but my feeling is that people who are very aggressively anti-gay often have deep seeded psychological issues which could include sexual identity problem

way to pontificate on your first day. A simple hello would have been nice instead of calling us uncreative rednecks. Not going to win yourself very many friends around here that way.

What kind of X do you have? Any mods?
These are the things that make a good n00b, not holier-than-thou posts about morals and belief systems.

(please disregard large grin)

This is the truth ..... but this insecure myth is just shit.

Say me and Ross are in the military. Is it really even that I can introduce my wife to someone else at a military gathering but TK can't bring Chuck along?

Just sayin..

Is this some kind of a crazy sex riddle? Or are you back on the pipe?

Who's TK? Who's Chuck? Quit lying about being married! We all know you still love me!!

(I mean, how could ya not? Remember the member? The special "Ross Sauce"?)

Although you're wife is pretty hot. Smith says she has popcorn (if ya know what I'm talkin' about!).

Spank Me!!

That long post made my head hurt. Please learn how to type.

The IDF is effective only because Israel itself is basically crazy. They would blow themselves up rather than succomb to Arab control. When was the last time the IDF engagaged in general warfare? Today all they do is peacekeeping/low intensity conflict stuff. Of course they have a method of dealing with the enemy that would land the U.S. in the middle of a major sh1t storm of international b1tching. The IDF is pretty ruthless, not so much effective.

This gay ass thread is STILL going???

And YOU responded to it...

Care to tell us something you've been hiding in the proverbial "closet?"

(Oh great...now I responded.)

You bitch.

You cock knocking dope fiend bitchass bitch. I responded because someone else responded.

Shit.

Damn dude...Go have a coke and a smile.