ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130

Posted by: Anonymous

ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 15/10/05 09:38 PM

Here's a cool item I recently came accross on the net:



(Click on the picture to visit the Manufacturer's website.)

Here's what it does:

1. SCAN TOOL

Troubleshoot your own car and turn off the
"Check Engine", "Service Engine Soon", or other
warning lamp and clear the trouble warnings.

* Reads Trouble Codes
* Reads conditions that set the Trouble Code
* Clears Trouble Codes
* Turns off "Check Engine" light
* Make and store up to 10 rewritable special codes to send to the vehicle computer

2. DIGITAL GAUGES

Shows 4 gauges at a time from the possible following:

* Fuel Economy
* Fuel Rate
* Battery Voltage
* Coolant Temperature
* Intake Air Temperature
* Engine Speed (RPM)
* Vehicle speed (MPH)
* Manifold Pressure (not available on some vehicles)
* Engine Load
* Throttle Position
* Ignition Timing
* Open/Closed Loop

3. TRIP COMPUTER

Automatically tracks three sets of trip data -
Current (short) Trip
Days (total) Trips
Previous Days Trips

* Maximum Speed
* Average Speed
* Maximum Coolant Temperature
* Maximum RPM
* Driving Time
* Driving Distance
* Fuel Used
* Trip Fuel Economy

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For $130, this seems like a useful tool. I did a bit of googling and found out that the guys at the RV.Net forums really like the device. There are many threads about it here

I'm going to order one and let you guys know how it works after I receive it.

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EDIT: If you call 1-888-433-5664 and ask for Ron, he will sell it to you for $122 shipped. Oooo-hooo an 8 dollar discount!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 15/10/05 10:47 PM

Hmmmm [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 16/10/05 02:14 PM

That looks really cool - great find!
Looking forward to your review/feedback. Might just put it on the wishlist for x-mas...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 17/10/05 06:37 AM

It's on order as of this morning. I found it cheaper somewhere else and wrote an email to the manufacturer asking for a pricematch. Ron, at Linear-Logic (the manufacturer), gave it to me for $122 shipped. I should have it by the end of the week and will get back to you guys.

By the way, Ron said he would be willing to sell it to you guys for $122 as well. It's only an 8 dollar discount, but what the heck. Just call Ron at 1-888-433-5664 and mention the $122 price (don't worry, I'm not getting anything out of this, just trying to help)

More when it arrives...
Posted by: 01SalsaXterra

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 17/10/05 09:39 AM

I wonder if you can hack it and get your 0-60, quarter mile times & trap speed. Like one of the G-tech's..
Pretty cool.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 17/10/05 09:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 01SalsaXterra:
I wonder if you can hack it and get your 0-60, quarter mile times & trap speed. Like one of the G-tech's..
Pretty cool.
you don't need that.

The times are easy to get!

First, grab a calendar.

For 0-60, move one block to the right.

For 1/4 mile, move one block down.

Not 100% accurate, but should be good enough for the Xterra..... [Laughing] [LOL] [Laughing]
Posted by: 01SalsaXterra

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 17/10/05 09:57 AM

Quote:
you don't need that.

The times are easy to get!

First, grab a calendar.

For 0-60, move one block to the right.

For 1/4 mile, move one block down.

Not 100% accurate, but should be good enough for the Xterra.....
It's not for the Xterra, I already know how slow it is with all of the armor and aerodynamics of a barn, not to mention the same color. laugh

I assume that it would work with ANY OBD2 car, which would mean majority of cars/trucks 1996 to current.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/10/05 03:19 PM

Update:

I received the ScanGauge today (that was fast).

Plugged it in and it does everything they claim it can do.

I was really impressed by all of the user adjustable features:

-Gas tank size
-Engine displacement
-Tire Size
-When you fill up, if you used more or less gas than what it calculated for you, you can enter the actual amount used, and it will automatically calculate a correction factor (I haven't used this feature yet)

After setting all of these up correctly, I should technically get very accurate results. However, it will be a few weeks before I can compare the Scangauge to hand calculated values to see the difference.

This thing has lots of features. The best way to see all of them, is to download the pdf manual here .

The only thing that isn't great about this unit is it's looks. It's in a cheap plastic box (like something you would buy from Radio Shack). I don't mind it too much and I will post some pictures of the unit installed in my X soon.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 20/10/05 02:43 PM



Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 20/10/05 06:16 PM

Thanks for posting the pics, etc Adrian. Looks like the unit's orange lighting matches the X's.
Hopefully that detracts from the cheapish look of it's face plate/case a little.

Overall, looks pretty good. I'm gonna order one next week.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 20/10/05 10:55 PM

A couple more notes:

1. I was very impressed with the feel of the buttons. They look kind of cheap, like the rest of the unit, but have a firm reassuring feel and a proper click when you press them. These days good buttons are a rare find, so I was quite happy.

2. I learned something new about the unit (I guess I already knew this but I just hadn't processed it yet). If you look at the "trip", "today", or "tank" screens, you see an averaged mpg reading, just as you would expect. If you look at the "gauge" screen, you see the instantaneous MPG reading. This means that if you're going 50 miles per hour and take your foot completely off the gas, the MPG will shoot up to 70 (or some other huge number). When you start to seriously accelerate, it will drop to under 10. That's a lot of fluctuation; but after you think about it, it makes perfect of sense. I don't know if I'll use this feature much, but I guess it's nice to have it.

EDIT: It makes you think twice before "putting the pedal to the metal." frown
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/10/05 04:21 PM

wow, does the X really get 10 mpg when you floor it?
Posted by: 01SalsaXterra

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/10/05 07:22 PM

Quote:
wow, does the X really get 10 mpg when you floor it?
Put it in 4 wheel low and drive offroad all day. You'll be lucky if you see anywhere near 10mpg. eek
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 27/10/05 08:33 PM

My Scan Gauge came in yesterday. Played with it in the 03 today, will try it in the 05 tomorrow. So far, I'm impressed! (though not with my gas milage-doh!). Wicked easy to use and works well.
A P0328 code (knock sensor) was logged by the 03 - had probably been there a while. Just reset it and hope it doesn't come back.

[ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 27/10/05 09:08 PM

Nice pics Adrian. I was looking for something to do with that empty space below the radio!!! [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 28/10/05 07:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by yankyfan100:
wow, does the X really get 10 mpg when you floor it?
Actually, the lowest I've seen so far is 1.7mpg. I don't look all the time so it might have gone lower at some point.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/10/05 09:22 AM

How easy or difficult was this device to install?

-DB
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/10/05 09:39 AM

Ahhh, I see on the ScanGuage website that it merely plugs into the diagnostic connector under the dash
smile
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/10/05 10:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by D.B. Cooper:
Ahhh, I see on the ScanGuage website that it merely plugs into the diagnostic connector under the dash
smile
Yea, pretty nice eh!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 04/11/05 11:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Adrian:
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EDIT: If you call 1-888-433-5664 and ask for Ron, he will sell it to you for $122 shipped. Oooo-hooo an 8 dollar discount![/QB]
at the moment, there is about a two week delay while they wait for more units to be fabricated, so current (11/4) orders will be in your hands around the thanksgiving holiday.

also, ron tells me that they'll do $124.95 shipped, not $122.00. must be taking advantage of demand [Laughing]

depending on how easy it is to disassemble, i'm thinking of fabbing a better looking faceplate. i'll post more when i have it in my hands to inspect, or pm me if you're interested ...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 04/11/05 05:38 PM

Regarding $130 vs $122 vs $124.95:

Come on guys! At $130 it's still an excellant value.
Most of the devices that just read codes cost more than that, and this unit is a trip computer to boot!

IMHO, it's not worth nickel and diming it at that price. They made a great little product at a very reasonable price, now let them make a little $$$!

"depending on how easy it is to disassemble, i'm thinking of fabbing a better looking faceplate."

Me too - probably wont get around to it for quite a while... I'd be very interested in seeing what you come up with.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 04/11/05 10:01 PM

Not only does it have the code reader and trip computer, it also gives you some real time data on a bunch of sensors. This feature is included in much costlier code readers going for around $250. I think this thing is an excellent deal!!
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/11/05 07:49 AM

BTW, how are you all planning on using this? Permanently mounted or moving it from vehicle to vehicle? Just curious since you can use it as a scanner it would be convenient to be able to take it out to troubleshoot codes on multiple vehicles!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/11/05 01:36 PM

"BTW, how are you all planning on using this? Permanently mounted or moving it from vehicle to vehicle?"

I installed it with the supplied velco so I can move it between my 2 X's. I don't want it mounted permanently anywhere - already got a friend who's Jetta's check engine light is on so I'm gonna plug it into his car for a few minutes to he can get the codes.

In my 05, I've got it mounted exactly like the bottom most pic posted by adrian. Probably gonna use velcro in the dash cubby above the shifter in the 03.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/11/05 09:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 05_X:
"BTW, how are you all planning on using this? Permanently mounted or moving it from vehicle to vehicle?"

I installed it with the supplied velco so I can move it between my 2 X's. I don't want it mounted permanently anywhere - already got a friend who's Jetta's check engine light is on so I'm gonna plug it into his car for a few minutes to he can get the codes.

In my 05, I've got it mounted exactly like the bottom most pic posted by adrian. Probably gonna use velcro in the dash cubby above the shifter in the 03.
Yea, seems logical. How ya running the cable?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 06/11/05 09:51 PM

05_X: hey there north-shore neighbor! [Wave]

Quote:
Originally posted by 05_X:
Regarding $130 vs $122 vs $124.95:
Come on guys! At $130 it's still an excellant value.
right you are, of course ... there's no disputing the value, just wanted to manage people's expectations. smile

Quote:
Originally posted by 05_X:
I'd be very interested in seeing what you come up with.
i'll post again when i figure out what i'm doing about the faceplate -- have to see how easy it is to take apart, first.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 07/11/05 06:18 AM

thanks for this awesome find adrian!
I've got one in the mail, ordered it within 5 minutes of reading this post. [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 07/11/05 10:43 AM

Yea, I finally ordered mine today!!! smile
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 22/11/05 08:25 PM

Well my new ScanGauge Tool made it! I'll let ‘ya know how it works out after my trip up to the Grand Canyon but here is my initial review.

It was so simple to use the manual was almost not needed. Come on, I figured it out and I'm an Engineer so how hard could it be??? laugh

Of course it picked up one of the knock sensor codes, P038. There was a real shock.

Pretty nice as it will pull the codes and reset them for 'ya. Being a less expensive generic unit that works on most vehicles with OBDII, it only gives 'ya the code and not a description of it!

It also gives 'ya some real time data: RPM, MPH, Voltage, IAT, Water Temp, TPS, Timing, Fuel Pressure (N/A on X), MAP (N/A on X), Engine Load, and Open/Closed Loop. It also lets you choose the data in liters, Kilometers, and °C if you like.

It also has a feature to set up what kind of fuel you use such as Diesel a, Diesel b, LPG, or Gas and to add Fuel tank capacity. You can then use it as a Trip Computer giving various data such as Max Speed, Max Coolant Temp, Max Engine RPM, Avg Fuel Economy, Trip Fuel used, Trip Distance, and Trip Elapsed Time.

It also has a feature which I haven't figured out how to use yet because of course I didn't read the manual but it allows you to compensate for different size tires for your MPH and such data! hmmmm, we'll see about that...

It definitely does not give you the feel of something that would take the abuse of something you would use professionally in the shop everyday. It probably wouldn't take being dropped as most professional code readers can be with their rubber cases.

I also tried it on an Isuzu Rodeo. It read the MAP data. I didn’t realize the Xterra didn’t have a map sensor! Yes/No? It is nice in that you can use it on virtually any OBDII vehicle but it seems as though it would be better off mounted semi permanently in one vehicle! Oh well, time will tell and I'll keep 'ya posted.

Here are a few pics. Sorry they don't give you a real feel for how big it is but it's really smaller than I thought!

Oh yea, in the bottom pic I had been idling in my garage for a while and thus what I assume was a rather high IAT of 128 deg F. While I was driving it went down in the low 80s.

It also has a cool Orange Backlight that works well at night and can be turned on high, low, or off. You can also adjust the contrast!

It also allows the user I believe 10 programmable settings! You could also set it up to let’s say, see the max speed your son was driving the night before!! Now there is a feature I'm glad my parents didn't have! laugh


Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 22/11/05 09:21 PM

You used it on a Rodeo? Did it return the code "POS"?
(sorry couldn't resist)

One other thing to add:
You can change the default gage update rate to FAST and it works fine on both generations of X's (at least it does on my 03 and 05), according the manual some vehicles can't handle the faster rate.

to change update rate:
More>More>Rate - default is Normal, change to Fast. It increases the refesh inteval.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 22/11/05 09:37 PM

Dezurtrat,

When you were driving and FIA was 80, do you know how close that was to actual outside air temp?

Been meaning to compare with mine, but keep forgetting. Theoretically is should be pretty close to outside temp when driving, right? My 05 doesn't have that feature on the e-mirrow, would be cool if this thing provided it.

However, if you don't wanna talk to me after I dis'd the Rodeo, I understand. wink
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 22/11/05 09:37 PM

hehe...LOL..actually is read: BIG POS!!!!

Thanks for the eXtra information! I hadn't gotten that far but I'll try it tomorrow!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/11/05 10:14 AM

Well, I know what is going on my Christmas list smile
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/11/05 10:28 AM

05_X, I did not know that actual temp but I believe it was somewhere between 70 & 80 as a guess! I have an actual Compass I installed that get's me pretty close to the outside temp and I'll compare 'em and get back to 'ya!

Mike
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/11/05 01:17 PM

Outside temp was 31F at my house, Scan gauge showed 37 when I got on the highway. Later in day 33F at work, scan gauge showed 39F on highway. Of couse when you slow down it heats up under the hood pretty quick.
Dezurt - Will be interesting to see if you get about the same 6 degree diff in the warmer climate.

I realize the air intake temp isn't designed to be an accurate "outdoor thermometer" - just playin' around with the new toy!

I'll probably move the scan gauge back to the 03 next week (now that's a big job haha!). I actually have the outside temp in the mirror on that X.

Here's an intesting trend - when my wife drives, she tends to get 19-20 mpg. I tend to get 17-18mpg. It must be 'cause I weigh more, couldn't be the driving habits - right?!
wink
Posted by: XPLORx4

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/11/05 06:12 PM

I've had a ScanGauge installed on my truck for a couple of months and it's been awesome to use. Once I dialed in the correction factors for tire size and FILLUP accuracy, I've found it to be consistently accurate in calculating TANK fuel economy.

One thing that I've noticed after using the ScanGauge for coolant temp is that the coolant temp reading fluctuates under "normal" conditions quite a bit (from about 184°F to 204°F) while the coolant gauge needle on the dash doesn't move at all!

It makes me wonder if the gauge on the dash has a flat-spot in its response to indicate "normal" so people don't freak out when they see the gauge moving up and down all the time.

In "gauge" mode I usually monitor VOLTS, TEMP, MPG, and LOD (or occasionally TPS). It's neat to watch how MPG changes as LOD changes.

On my Pathy, MAP is supported so I can see how much the MAP changes at different elevations. For example, at sea level the MAP is 14.7, but on a recent trip into the mountains, it got down to about 10.5! (MAP=manifold air pressure; if the engine is off, the MAP=ambient air pressure)

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 25/11/05 01:42 PM

Nice setup XPLORx4!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by XPLORx4:

One thing that I've noticed after using the ScanGauge for coolant temp is that the coolant temp reading fluctuates under "normal" conditions quite a bit (from about 184°F to 204°F) while the coolant gauge needle on the dash doesn't move at all!

It makes me wonder if the gauge on the dash has a flat-spot in its response to indicate "normal" so people don't freak out when they see the gauge moving up and down all the time.
I noticed that too and was thinking the same thing.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 26/11/05 07:09 AM

Well here is my informal data from the IAT sensor from ScanGauge compared to my Wayfinder Compass/Temperature Gauge.

In town during the day:
ScanGauge = 87 deg F Wayfinder = 79 deg F

On the highway during the day
ScanGauge = 77 deg F Wayfinder = 74 deg F

During Night at Grand Canyon
ScanGauge = 44 deg F Wayfinder = 42 deg F

Early Morning at the Grand Canyon
ScanGauge = 22 deg F Wayfinder = 23 deg F

Of course, the colder it was the better they seemed to correlate which seems to make sense. And there was no correlation sitting at idle as the IAT temp always was much higher!
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 27/11/05 09:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Muzikman:
Well, I know what is going on my Christmas list smile
I highly recommend it!! [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/11/05 09:39 AM

This thing is amazing! I have been jealous of the '05 owners with their cool little trip-computers, but now it looks like any one can do this. But fine, I'll bite. Where is the OBD2 port/thinger on, say, a 2004 X?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/11/05 10:10 AM

On my 03, it's under the dash just to the left of the steering wheel (between steering wheel and e-brake release). On the 05 it's just to the right of of the steering wheel.

Look for a white retangular connector - can't miss it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/11/05 10:19 AM

Do you have to take any parts of the dash off or anything, or is it just something that is meant to have the cover taken off? Easy access? Or lots of of tearing apart?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/11/05 10:31 AM

you don't have to remove anything - it's meant for easy access. Just look under your dash, probably to the left of your steering column (like the 03) and it should be right there.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/11/05 11:15 AM

Ah sounds nice... OK now here's another question. One of the things the documentation says it can do is:

"Make and store up to 10 rewritable special codes
to send to the vehicle computer"

Why would I want to do this? I don't want to send my X's computer the Self-Destruct code ("Execute Order #66." "It will be done, my lord."). I even read about it in the manual and I can't figure out what it's for... someone hook me up here?
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/11/05 06:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CDDiG:
Ah sounds nice... OK now here's another question. One of the things the documentation says it can do is:

"Make and store up to 10 rewritable special codes
to send to the vehicle computer"

Why would I want to do this? I don't want to send my X's computer the Self-Destruct code ("Execute Order #66." "It will be done, my lord."). I even read about it in the manual and I can't figure out what it's for... someone hook me up here?
Good question and I myself have no idea what you could send it. I'm sure reading the OBDII specification through would give you some indication of the proper codes you could send. I'll email ScanGauge and ask 'em for an example!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 30/11/05 08:59 PM

I basically have to convince someone that this will not have any adverse effects on the X or the X's computer. Besides intentionally clearing out Service codes, is there anything bad you could do with this to your truck?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 01/12/05 05:17 AM

To clear codes, you have to navigate through some menus and specifically tell it to clear codes.

As far as that other thing: sending commands- same thing - you gotta navigate through some menus and put some effort in. (I'm not sure why you'd wanna do that anyway - will be interesting to hear what DesurtRat finds...)

Neither of those could really be done by accident.
Other than that, all it's functions are just READING information, so I don't see how it could do anything detrimental.
Posted by: XPLORx4

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 01/12/05 06:03 PM

Clearing DTC codes with the Scan Gauge doesn't require navigating through a deep menu system. It's quite easy to see if there are any DTCs, and not much more difficult to reset them, especially if the MIL (check engine light) is on.

As for the special "commands" you can send to the computer, it does require navigating to some deep menu options, and it actually would be quite hard for the non-computer-geek-type-person to send commands anyway.

See info here about sending commands on the Scan-Gauge web site.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 01/12/05 07:02 PM

Thanks for the info!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/12/05 07:59 PM

Thanks for the link XPLORx4,

I hadn't looked into sending any codes yet.

BTW..I'm glad to see that you all like these things and don't hate me for recomending them. It took me a while to get mine adjusted correctly, but now it's extremely accurate. I was within .1 gallons on my last two fill-ups. How about you guys?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/12/05 08:09 PM

A few more things,

1. Since your analog speedometer is never correct (usually a little high), you can use a GPS unit to get the most accurate speed setting. If you are the one driving, it's best you have someone else perform the calibration; so you don't get into an accident.

2. If you're going to be moving the scangauge from one car to another, don't forget to write down all your settings. Otherwise, it will be very frustrating to have to do it over again.

3. When you plug the gauge back into your X, you can go to "fillup" twice. The second time it will allow you to change the offset percentage, so you won't have to wait. Consumption will be accurate right away, but it won't know how much gas you have left until you do a real fill-up.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 16/12/05 07:02 AM

I haven't quite figured out how that offset percentage works on the fill up! Do you have more info to help me out?

Thanks!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 31/12/05 04:04 PM

After you fill-up (select More, Fill-up on your Scangauge), it will tell you how many gallons it has calculated and you can change the amount in 1/10 gallon increments (based on how many gallons you just pumped into your truck). As you change the amount of gas, you will see the offset percentage change. Remember that percentage. the next time you plug in the scangauge, quickly select Fill-up TWICE. The second time you should be able to adjust the percentage to match the number you determined previously. (You won't need to do this if you don't move the Scangauge around between different cars)

I was getting very accurate results, but the last time I was quite a bit off. I think that part of the problem is that the pumps at different gas stations don't always stop at the same time. From what I've read, the most accurate results will be achieved by always going to the same gas station and using the same pump. Personally, I don't care THAT MUCH about accuracy. After a few fill-ups, you should have a fairly good idea of what your offset should be.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 31/12/05 04:14 PM

Thanks! For some reason it isn't explained very well in my manual! [Wave]
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 31/12/05 05:06 PM

OK, from all accounts this thing is awesome. It should help me figure out exactly something I was wondering on my Christmas drive back from New Orleans. I understand the relationship between speed and MPG (of course, the faster you go, the lower the mileage). I normally cruise at about 77 MPH (speed limit being 70) but this time set the cruise at 82 MPH and it was the first time my MPG was just truly horrible (14.3) on the highway. It was surprising that the mileage was about 3-4 MPG less than I'm used to.

Seems this gizmo will let me see the actual MPG at different speeds and I'd be interested to see a comparison between the MPG at say, 55, 65, 75, and 80.

Also, the trip was my first on a new set of Toyo Open Country A/T's (at 35 PSI). I've read that the mileage will be less on A/T's than on a highway type tire but realistically, how much difference will that make? And the Toyo A/T tread doesn't look nearly as different from a highway tread as some do (see below). Thoughts?



P.S. Didn't mean to steer the thread off-topic...will repost elsewhere if necessary.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 31/12/05 09:25 PM

It's a great device. I love it. It will also let you see GPH! That should help you to! smile
Posted by: XChosen

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/01/06 05:44 PM

I ordered mine today? I'm so excited!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 01/02/06 01:58 PM

This thing rocks. Ugly as sin, but extremely useful. Highly recommend!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 02/02/06 07:49 PM

Has anyone ever found another brand or something else like this jw
thanks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/02/06 07:37 PM

Do you have to unplug this everytime you get out of the vehicle?

Does the last screen that was used, pop up when it's turned back on?

Thanks, seems like a nice product!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 23/02/06 09:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chiefkeith:
Do you have to unplug this everytime you get out of the vehicle?

Does the last screen that was used, pop up when it's turned back on?

Thanks, seems like a nice product!
You just plug it and it comes on and off as you turn on and off your X.
It keeps in memory all your setting between use as long as it stays pluged.
Very handy [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 24/02/06 06:17 AM

dang..
im gonner have to look into dis...
where did u mount yours at
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 24/02/06 06:29 AM

Same location as Adrian on the first page of this tread:
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 24/02/06 09:29 AM

It's been awhile since I read this whole thread...hopefully this hasn't been asked already...

does the ScanGauge let you reset the TPMS system when it gets flaky? Does it let you monitor tire pressure levels too?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 24/02/06 11:21 AM

this looks like one sweet tool, posted the info up in my 240 club forum. figure it will work great for getting much needed info on a sr swapped 240, as well as my new xtera
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 24/02/06 01:01 PM

Has anyone thought of creating a new faceplate for the god awful front that is on there?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 25/02/06 02:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by frostman:
this looks like one sweet tool, posted the info up in my 240 club forum. figure it will work great for getting much needed info on a sr swapped 240, as well as my new xtera
I would hate to be the one trying to get OBD2 to work on an SR swapped 240. They have enough wiring problems as it is.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 25/02/06 06:45 AM

Quote:
I would hate to be the one trying to get OBD2 to work on an SR swapped 240. They have enough wiring problems as it is.
Through the use of brute force, and total ignorance anything can be accomplished
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 25/02/06 05:30 PM

Looks good eXTra-fORt! I thought about putting my down there but went with a dash mount to avoid looking down so much. Now that I have had it a while I don’t look at it so much any more while driving

I also put it in so that I could remove it easily. This has come in handy so I could read a couple of my friend’s codes.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 25/03/06 12:35 PM

Just received my ScanGuage today and it's everything it's hyped up to be. I highly recommend it.

If interested, there's a vendor on eBay selling them for $115 including shipping. Look up member 'sterlingda' or just search on 'ScanGuage'.
Posted by: dezurtrat

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 25/03/06 12:52 PM

Yea, I agree, they are pretty nice for the price! [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: PDXterra

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 09:53 AM

Hot damn!

ScanGauge has released the "ScanGauge II." From their website:

  • Compact Size (4.8"W x 1.5"H x 1"D - 1/4 the volume of the original ScanGauge)
  • Big display - 50% larger than the original ScanGauge
  • User Settable Backlight Color - 7 Standard and a custom you choose from 63 possible colors
  • Modern Styling
  • Cable detachable at the ScanGauge II. Can be connected on the back or side.
  • ScanGauge II to USB Interface available in August 2006. Allows data logging, field upgrades, data downloads and more
  • Full 1 Year Warranty - Parts and Labor
  • Edit to add: $169.95 (Includes shipping)


More details:
http://scangauge.com/
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 10:10 AM

Cool. I think I'll be ebaying my current one and getting one! I love my scanGauge.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 10:34 AM

I have wanted one for some time but could not bring myself to order the goofy looking thing.

I just placed my order for the new model. smile
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 10:55 AM

Judging from the speed, this one's definitely not in an X. The MPG feels about right sometimes though.

Posted by: Todrick

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 11:37 AM

ok... now i need one.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 01:34 PM

I could not bring myself to purchase the recycled 8-track player they used to encase the first one. The new version, however, looks like a winner. [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 02:31 PM

awsome! gonna get one when I get back from moab
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 04:05 PM

ahhh the answer to my question on the last page!
now it doesnt look like it's from the stone age.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/05/06 04:15 PM

already have mine on order!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 20/05/06 10:15 AM

Just ordered one also can't wait
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 20/05/06 03:08 PM

I was thinking about this earlier today and looked it up and saw that they had a new model! I was going to post to this thread about the new model. I definitely want one now!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/05/06 06:08 PM

Just ordered a SG2! laugh
(I have the SE with trip computer - but one can never have enough gauges laugh )

BUT... What I would really like to know is where can I find one of those nice little devices showing your level side to side and front to back... as XPLORx4 had in the pic in the middle of these posts...

Please can anyone suggest where I can find that - is there one with a compass? Thanks
confused
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 29/05/06 06:34 PM

Here's one: http://www.4by4connection.com/clinometer.html I just searched google for a clinometer, levogauge, tilt meter (you can select between a jeep image or a pickup image on the site above.

[Wave]

Edit: here\'s one from e-bay that has Jeep images, but comes with a compas
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 30/05/06 08:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChefTyler:
Here's one: http://www.4by4connection.com/clinometer.html I just searched google for a clinometer, levogauge, tilt meter (you can select between a jeep image or a pickup image on the site above.

[Wave]

Edit: here\'s one from e-bay that has Jeep images, but comes with a compas
Thanks ChefTyler - I did not even know what they are called. Searchs work great when you know what you are searching for [Laughing]
Posted by: Bruzer

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 30/05/06 09:03 AM

I called the company president and I got one shipped out to me at Moab last week.

I played with it on the 20 hour drive home from Moab. I really like the miles to empty reading. It not only looks better than the original, it is a smaller form factor.

Another feature it has that X'ers will be interested in. If you change your wheel size, the scan gauge lets you adjust the speed reading on the gauge (not the Xterra). It gives you the formula to do the adjustment if your speedo was correct before the tire change.

It looks like the stock 2005 Xterra Offroad computer is using the base model (smaller) wheel size, because on my trip to Moab the mileage and speed was slightly less than my GPS which was powered on all the time.

Using my GPS I was able figure out how to adjust the ScanGauge 2 speed to correctly show the MPH. I think it was off by 2% or something, I will have to check.

Great little device, I am glad I got it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 30/05/06 09:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruzer:
I called the company president and I got one shipped out to me at Moab last week.

I played with it on the 20 hour drive home. I really like the miles to empty reading. It not only looks better than the original it is a smaller form factor.

Another feature it has that X'ers will be interested in. If you change your wheel size, the scan gauge lets you adjust the speedometer. It gives you the formula to do the adjustment if your speedo was correct before the tire change.

It looks like the stock 2005 Xterra Offroad computer is using the base model (smaller) wheel size, because on my trip to Moab the mileage and speed was slightly less than my GPS which was powered on all the time.

Using my GPS I was able figure out how to adjust the ScanGauge 2 speed to correctly show the MPH. I think it was off by 2% or something, I will have to check.

Great little device, I am glad I got it.
You were able to change the mph on the first one too. Mine was off some where around 3% when I changed from the 265/75R16's to the 285/75R16's.

I have not ordered my series 2 SG yet, but I will be. The old one is going in the Jeep.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 30/05/06 10:29 AM

it's about time!

gonna put my order in now.
Posted by: spalind

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 30/05/06 10:54 AM

I think I may pick one up soon...anyone know if it will clear/stop the airbag light and seatbelt light from blinking?? Ever since I installed my CB the both of those have been blinking away and disconncting little sensor under the drivers seat didn't make any difference to the seatbelt light....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/06/06 10:09 AM

In case anyone was interested in the USB interface module here is what they said. Great response! I think I may pull the trigger soon!

"The interface is a unit with memory and processing power itself. It has a cable that plugs into the unused connector on the ScanGaugeII and another that plugs into a USB port on a computer. They don't have to both be plugged in at the same time.

The interface will use SD Cards for data storage. You can plug it inot the ScanGauge for logging and for other upload/download tasks. It can be removed from the vehicle and taken to a computer for data transfers.

The ScanGaugeII has all the hardware needed for the interface, but will need an upgrade of its program to use it. The Upgrade is free when you purchase the interface.

Price has not been finalized yet. It is expected to be under $100. This will also include the software for a windows based computer."
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/06/06 10:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by spalind:
I think I may pick one up soon...anyone know if it will clear/stop the airbag light and seatbelt light from blinking?? Ever since I installed my CB the both of those have been blinking away and disconncting little sensor under the drivers seat didn't make any difference to the seatbelt light....
There is a post somewhere about this. It is a known issue with an easy fix. Quite a lot of people had this problem when installing their car stereo's. You should be able to find an answer with a search.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/06/06 11:11 AM

Spalind,

Here's the thread Tron was talking about, in case you didn't figure out how to turn of the airbag light yet:

How to reset your airbag flashing dash lights yourself.
Posted by: spalind

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/06/06 05:32 PM

Mmmmm....that didn't work....so...back to the original question...would the Scangauge turn these off?
Posted by: XPLORx4

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 05/06/06 09:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by spalind:
Mmmmm....that didn't work....so...back to the original question...would the Scangauge turn these off?
No. It only connects to the PCM (powertrain control module).
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 06/06/06 05:45 AM

No, the ScanGauge won't reset that light.

You sure you tried this particular procedure? The one with the stopwatch is harder, but this one works like a charm.

1. Put key in. Turn the key to ON possition watch the airbag light turn on solid (not blinking).
2. As soon as it starts blinking turn key off within one second.
3. Take key out
4. Repeat steps 1 -3 three more times
5. On your fourth time turn the key and the light will go on and turn off , for good within a few seconds.
Posted by: spalind

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 06/06/06 07:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by max6spd:
No, the ScanGauge won't reset that light.

You sure you tried this particular procedure? The one with the stopwatch is harder, but this one works like a charm.

1. Put key in. Turn the key to ON possition watch the airbag light turn on solid (not blinking).
2. As soon as it starts blinking turn key off within one second.
3. Take key out
4. Repeat steps 1 -3 three more times
5. On your fourth time turn the key and the light will go on and turn off , for good within a few seconds.
Yup...thats what I did....I have an '00 though not an '05...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 06/06/06 09:24 AM

Oohhh....sorry, my bad.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 06/06/06 09:19 PM

Yeah I'm planning on ordering the new one now that it's been upgraded. Question though for those that have gotten yours are there any options the device can't monitor. I noticed on their site some options are not available but non of them really applied directly to the X. Just wanted to double check though.

Thanks.
Posted by: XPLORx4

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 07/06/06 01:47 PM

Nissan PCM's support all of the gauges that the Scan-Gauge II can display. In other words, if the Scan-Gauge II supports it, it will show up when you connect it to your X. (The first-gen Scan Gauge could display fuel pressure, which very few vehicles, including Nissans, supported; as you can see, that gauge is no longer available.)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 07/06/06 04:45 PM

Hi I just received my ScanGauge 11 today it works and looks great , I did have to buy some more Velcro as I forgot to clean off my greased plastic ( Armor All) thus the supplied Velcro would not stick. I'm not good with pictures but I already love this new toy . You can match the back light color exactly to the stock gauge colour thus it looks original .
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 10/06/06 01:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by winterules:
Hi I just received my ScanGauge 11 today it works and looks great , I did have to buy some more Velcro as I forgot to clean off my greased plastic ( Armor All) thus the supplied Velcro would not stick. I'm not good with pictures but I already love this new toy . You can match the back light color exactly to the stock gauge colour thus it looks original .
where did you end up mounting it? I just got mine today and I'm torn between two locations.

Would be great if anyone w/ a new gen and the ScanGauge II could post pictures of theirs. Thx.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 11/06/06 09:57 PM

Update,

After all these months, I don't think I can live without my ScanGauge for very long; but I've decided that I must (for a little while).

I'm putting the old one on Ebay and spending the extra cash to buy the new version. I'll post pictures as soon as I have it.

Adrian
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 11/06/06 11:30 PM

Can someone give me an idea of how long it takes to get one into Canada?

I ordered it 10 days ago and no sign yet. Must be stuck at the border with those customs agents putting it through its paces.

(Only one or two responses are fine - I don't want to start this into another age thread.)

Also the reply above - was mentioned it does not display fuel pressure - and the old one did. It was not clear - did that work on the Nissans?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 11/06/06 11:57 PM

I fiddled around w/ mounting it on various locations but in my opinion, this was the best place in the new gen X.

It really is a great little gadget. [ThumbsUp]


..during the day...

..and at night (sorry for the blurry shot).
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 12/06/06 05:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Adrian:
Update,

After all these months, I don't think I can live without my ScanGauge for very long; but I've decided that I must (for a little while).

I'm putting the old one on Ebay and spending the extra cash to buy the new version. I'll post pictures as soon as I have it.

Adrian
Yeah, I sold mine and am eagerly awaiting my new one to come in. I'm looking for a new place to put it, too, since the old one was rather large and looked fine underneat the A/C controls.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 12/06/06 11:56 AM

It took about 2 weeks for me to receive my ScanGauge shipping to the Toronto area , I'll try and link a picture of the install if I can but I mounted it with the Velcro under the bottom of the dash in front of the shifter , holds great and you can't see the wire .
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 03:01 PM

just ordered one, excited to get it...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 03:36 PM

alright questions for people who have the II gen. how fast can you see your miles till empty and things like that..i know it shows the 4 things but how doy ou check the others like miles to empty and gallons used
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 05:11 PM

When you're on the Gauge screen, you just hit the "Trip" button and you can cycle through all that stuff. It's quick and easy.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 05:15 PM

I was just saved by my Scan Gauge today.
I was on a trip, a hundred something miles from home, when my "service engine soon" light came on.

This was in my year old 2005 X.

Great. Do I ignore it and drive home? Do I check it out immediately? Do I stress out about it?
Nope - Scan Gauge showed Code P0455. There was a Nissan dealer near by. I asked the girl at the service desk if they could tell me what the code meant. I heard a stressed sounding mechanic say "we can't take him right now". Service girl said - "no no no - can you just look up code P0455 and tell me what it means?"
He could handle that apparently - Turns out it was just the stupid loose gas cap thing.
I just reseated the gas cap, cleared the code with the scan gauge (maybe it would have cleared on it's own), and went on my way.
COOL!!!

Without the scan gauge, i would have waited around that dealership for hours just to find it was a loose gas cap, or drove 2 hours home learing at the "service engine soon", wondering what the heck was wrong and leary of impending doom.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 05:39 PM

Does anyone know of a link where we could download a list of all the codes for the next gen thus we can keep it in the X .
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 08:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by winterules:
Does anyone know of a link where we could download a list of all the codes for the next gen thus we can keep it in the X .
OBD-II Codes

i think this might be a list...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 08:43 PM

P0455 Evaporative Emission Control System Leak Detected (gross leak)

HaHa - This is gross - is there a friendlier list that says "gas cap is loose"? :rolleyes:

Also found this http://www.troublecodes.net/OBD2/
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 08:53 PM

Quote:
...Also the reply above - was mentioned it does not display fuel pressure - and the old one did. It was not clear - did that work on the Nissans?[/QB]
I don't believe that feature ever worked on our trucks (I'm out of state right now so I can't check for sure). Maybe they changed the software to automatically hide all the features that are NOT reported by the truck's computer.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 13/06/06 09:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SE4X4:
P0455 Evaporative Emission Control System Leak Detected (gross leak)

HaHa - This is gross - is there a friendlier list that says "gas cap is loose"? :rolleyes:

Also found this http://www.troublecodes.net/OBD2/
lol seriously, if i read that i would never think it meant the gas cap was loose
Posted by: XPLORx4

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 14/06/06 02:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Adrian:
Quote:
...Also the reply above - was mentioned it does not display fuel pressure - and the old one did. It was not clear - did that work on the Nissans?
I don't believe that feature ever worked on our trucks (I'm out of state right now so I can't check for sure). Maybe they changed the software to automatically hide all the features that are NOT reported by the truck's computer.[/QB]
Fuel pressure was supported on the original SG, but the Nissan PCM (like many other PCM's) doesn't support fuel pressure, so I think this was simply dropped in the SG2. The SG2 won't automatically hide non-supported gauges, it will just display an empty reading for that particular sensor.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 18/06/06 10:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XPLORx4:
Quote:
Originally posted by Adrian:
[b]
Quote:
...Also the reply above - was mentioned it does not display fuel pressure - and the old one did. It was not clear - did that work on the Nissans?
I don't believe that feature ever worked on our trucks (I'm out of state right now so I can't check for sure). Maybe they changed the software to automatically hide all the features that are NOT reported by the truck's computer.[/b]
Fuel pressure was supported on the original SG, but the Nissan PCM (like many other PCM's) doesn't support fuel pressure, so I think this was simply dropped in the SG2. The SG2 won't automatically hide non-supported gauges, it will just display an empty reading for that particular sensor.[/QB]
Cool. Thanks for the clarification. I don't mind the missing feature as I will not be able to take advantage of it anyway.

I am, however, looking forward to receiving the new unit. I have to send off the original one tomorrow (sold it on eBay) and will be without a Scangauge on my next road trip. Hopefully I get the new one soon.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 19/06/06 06:57 PM

got mine in the mail today, looks great and I have only been able to scratch the surface of the potential of it. I mounted mine on top of the steering wheel column thing. will post pics later...
Posted by: XPLORx4

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 21/06/06 12:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Adrian:
I have to send off the original one tomorrow (sold it on eBay)
How much did you get for it?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 28/06/06 02:58 PM

What prices are you guys getting on the new versions of the scangauge? Is $160-170 the best people have found?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 28/06/06 03:50 PM

Just ordered mine.. My SES light is on and is bothering me.. and no one on this island has a scan tool for sale.. I got mine for about 170 Shipped which is fine with me, considering it is $120 for a dealer to read trouble codes and tell me whats wrong..
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: ScanGauge Automotive Computer $130 - 28/06/06 04:09 PM

yeah the best you will find is around $160 for the new one, atleast thats what i found when i got mine.