NOV 11th SEDONA RUN

Not to overshadow this weekends festivities, but...

Hey all, my buddy from Cali is coming out here for the Cardinals-Cowboys game on the 12th. I plan on taking him out on a little Xcursion Friday the 10th or Saturday the 11th. Anyone that wants to go would be more than welcome to join in the fun.

Looking at Crown King, BA (if we don't run it this weekend), or Edwards Park Trail, or...??? I am open to anything, I just wanna take him out for a little off-roadn'

I know you got the weekend off defibvt...

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Let's get some plans going for this coming weekend so everyone is not left in the dark come Friday.

I say let's run BA, Soldier Pass, etc;...I think Dan suggested that in another thread. But there mya be alot of pinkies which is no bueno.

My second choice would be the Florence area. No pinkies and harder trails, which is muy bueno.

Leave Saturday around 10:00am I am guessing?

I should be at the meeting Friday but I can't do any more crazy stuff/runs until fricking Calmini gets me my steering system. My front end is so hosed right now...I'm just hoping it doesn't blow up before they get their act together.

Mark

I'd be up for coming on the excursion, don't want to put my rig through anything to hardcore tho until I get a little more armor.

Sounds like you guys might be heading somewhere a little tougher than my limited experience is good for.

I don't think Broken Arrow or Soldier Pass would be considered Hardcore.

You shouldn't have a problem. There are always detours around hard points anyway.

ohhhh - Thought this was gonna be a Hardcore run. Been wanting to run Broken Arrow for a while.

I'm easy, just want to do something.

Gotta test out my 'new' rig.

Let's do BA, etc. but meet at the Chevron by 8:00 instead. I have my Niece's Birthday Party at 2:00 or so, they still haven't decided yet.

Broken Arrow will be cake for Rog and Tom, Mark can run albeit conservatively and hope a couple others can make it.

If we get done early we can go through Jerome on the way back and stop for a Sud and sandwich at that little brewery there.

I'm down (or is it up ) for BA, etc this saturday. Sedona's always cool, although Payette Draw in Payson is great too. I'll drive either one .

Hey man keep what's up between you and Jess...!

Never been to Payette Draw so I would like that someday. As long as I get to use the Locker. :p

Chevron at 8:00am it is. See you all there.

Cool! Coming back thru Jerome gives me an excuse to hit Prescott on the way home.

Adam, you really think we'll be back in town by 2:00? I'd be happy making it to Precott by then.

I'm down if there is an easier ways past the hard core stuff, because I'm pretty new at this off roading thing and I'm in a stock 2006 and don't want to bang it up to much yet. Can someone give me directions or an address to where we are meeting.

Thanks

Jon

We will meet up at the Chevron gas station located at I-17 and Carefree Hwy at 8:00am.

We will all help you learn to negotiate whatever obstacle you want. If there is a will there is a way. Just come on out, I guartantee you will have a great time with a good group of folks.

The best way to learn to off-road is to do it. Kinda like sex...hmmmmm...sex and off-roading...both fun and rough at times!

Personally, i'd rather do Payette Draw. Its new territory and it meets the criteria of a more hardcore trail for this months excursion on the east side.

Nothing against sedona, but it seems that we do that trail multiple times a year, and should use this opportunity for an xcursion to do something that... well .. isn't sedona :p

There will be those who don't meet the minimum requirements of the trail, may want to put together a side trip.

Speaking of minimum Requirements, Dbax, what are they?

From what I have heard of Payette Draw, isn't there bypasses around most of the difficult stuff anyway? Or am I thinking of another trail. Is that the one that Dan hit with the Jeeps & Swanky?

I'm down for wherever. Just need to know the meeting place and time. I cannot make the Club meeting on Friday as I have to work so I can go Saturday.

Place, Time, meet up spot?

After looking at Payette...I am voting YES. It would be a better trail to run when there is a group that can help with tricky spots. Sedona is easy cheesy.

Minimum req's for Payette?

PAYETTE, PAYETTE, PAYETTE...

C'mon guys let's do it!

I'm up for it as long as we're not scaring off anyone and I can stick to my timeframe of being on the way back by 2 pm.

I'd assume that those with Mudflaps and or steprails need to remove them for Payette?

Check out some pics of Payette...looks fun.

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1375094098066412771MhYHNm

I'm up for Payette Draw, but will my STOCK 06 handle it or should I venture up to Sedona?

Just in from work and I'm happy to see so many willing to kick it up a notch. Payette draw can be done IFS, and no traction aids(lockers/gears) are necessary. There are some off camber spots and some gnarly rock gardens. The shelves can split you rtires in two also. But, it's a beautiful trail and a good challenge for most anyone. As Adam noted, mudflaps and steprails should be removed, but no suspension or body lifts are even necessary otherwise. Careful attention will be given to drivers w/o proper armor, but operator skill will play the biggest part in keeping damage free here. We'll of course only run the lower half of the trail, upper is much shorter but impassable to us all. Bring liquids and plan to lunch somewhere in the pines, it should be a great day .
Oh, bring spares if you have 'em too; TREs, hubs, ratchet straps, tools, etc. jic..

The Chevron's on the Carefree Hwy E of I-17 on the N side, you won't be able to miss it. Have an FRS radio (or two) set too channel 14.0 . If you have a CB, we usually run 17 (SWANKy Net).

Any thoughts on how to get there? Of course, leaving up I-17, the quickest way is north to Camp Verde, then the 260 E across and up to Payson. (We could from 260 also hit FR300 and ride that east across the Rim and back out to Payson, but I digress..) Oor, from the Chevron, Carefree Hwy east to 87, and N into town from there?
Either way let's be prepared to leave the McDonalds in Payson by 9:30. M'kay?

Sweet!

Here's a great video by Stu Olson (or his wife Cindy), from Payette Draw, on a Jeep run. The trip was sponsored by BFG tires as part of its "5 best trails in America" tour/promo. You'll see.. CLICKYMELINKY

Ty, Scott, Travis, Tomas, Thomas? How 'bout it guys? Lets get everyone out for the end of the year?

EDIT to add- Duhrr, the movie link.. :rolleyes:

Little to hardcore for me I think, will wait until I get some armor on her before I hit the rocks that hard. Have fun folks.

Sedona can be run with a stock Gen1 or Gen2 X. Sliders are good to have, but not necessary. You'll never need a skidplate there either, unless you're looking for a way to center yourself.. The other two trails; Soldier Pass Road, and Teacup Trail, are both scenic and fun too, but again, you wouldn't need skids for anything on the redrocks..

In Payette, sliders are mandatory, and skidplates'd prolly be helpful for harder lines, although not entirely necessary. MTs or BFG AT/kos are recommended for this trail too..

Since I don't have any armor either, I'm a little skittish about Payette. Lots of crunching going on in that vid.

Maybe we should have two runs. Payette for the hardcore folks & Sedona for the wussies like myself.

Looks like we have a split decision. I would really like to have a big group for this run and get some good pictures and have a good Saturday Xcursion.

Wherever we go let's go as a club and represent. I trust the guys with more built trucks to help me through any tough spots. Plus, you never know what you are capable of unless you try.

Bottom line: let's get as many Xterra's together on Saturday as possible. If that means a more accomodating trail, so be it. Just my .02.

It's not about being a wussie . Sedona is one specific type of terrain, perfect for offorading novices, and the scenery in the canyons around is world famous. The trail's great obviously :rolleyes: .. There was a whole industry built around it. And they're not so bad. Recent legislation has taken a bit of their bark..
Payette Draw more than armor, or any doo dads, just requires more driver skill I think. Keep in mind, those are built sheep and as such are taking optional harder lines. Not to mention that axle-thing up front.. I'll be happy to bring those interested up there soon (late NOV, early Dec), as perhaps more can run with us this weekend on the Sedona trails..

I second that Dan.

Just say the word and I will run Payette with ya.

"You're still dangerous. But you can be my wingman anytime."

"Bullshit, you can be mine."

---Top Gun

Sorry, that quote just popped into my overly large brain.

If those who've done it before think I can do it, then I'm willing to give it a go.

If not, I'd be happy to do Sedona so nobody has to go alone.

I'd like to see a large showing too quite honestly, I just don't want anybody to feel left out.

Alright, well, 8am at the Chevron it is

Edit to add- ROGER, this means you..^^^^

uhhhhh.... so is it Payatte or Sedona?

I hope you can make it for a day of wheeling in Sedona Presto. You, me, Scott, Timbo, and some others'll do Payette later this month..

You mean me on Payeatte Draw. Awww...shucks

Cool, I'll modify the Website to show the Excursion.

Chevron at I-17 and Carefree Hwy by 8:00 AM.

Heading to Sedona to run Broken Arrow, Soldier Pass, etc.

Thanks Adam Hope to see you in Sedona too.

I'll be there. May have the wife & Sprog too - not sure about them yet. Waking up at 6:30am on a Saturday is not really something my wife does!

Unfortunately, I will be in San jose Sat/Sun. Have fun all!

We would also like to tag along if we can make it on Sat . Hope to wheel with all you Guys.

Thx
Waldo

Sweet I’m in AZ this week

Prescott 11/8, TF&J and I are heading to Payette Draw on Thursday.

After that we may hit Terminator and/or Raw Deal on Friday.

So where & when can I meet you folks near the Table Mesa Area on Saturday? I have some friends in Sedona I’d like to visit

If anybody is up for some midweek wheelin’ let us know and we can arrange some meets.

Brian

Sweet! Looks like we are gonna have a good group.

Xtoolbox:
I would say put you FRS or CB on 14 or 17 respectively and as we near Table Mesa Rd, jump in the convoy with us. If we leave the Chevron about 8:15 that puts us at Table Mesa about 8:35ish. Or we can all get off the freeway and wait for ya.

Or call me on your cell: 4802517976 and I can tell ya where we are.

What time do you think we would get back to town after running the trails up there? Traffic permitting of course. My brother in law might tag along, but he plays hockey on Saturday evenings so we would need to be back by 5'ish if he does.

I know Adam needs to head back at 2:00pm. I would venture to guess that we will be back by 5:00pm.

Cool - I'd probably head back with Adam then in that case.

Hello there people.

Just joined the forum recently, new to the area as well and to the car. Was hoping to join you all this Saturday, but being an uber-noob in offroading (i don't think crossing creeks in VW Golf counts) I am wondering how difficult the chosen trails would be for someone like me? I got the '06 S with 4x4 absolutely stock.

Wouldn't want to find out my car's limitations the first time I am out and the hard way!

You will be just fine to go on the run this weekend. We will meet at the Chevron located at I-17 and carefree hwy at 8:00am on Staurday.

Hope to see ya there. Your X is capable of a great amount of off-road situations. The only way to find out what YOU are capable of is to go wheelin'.

I'm an offroad noob too and have been convinced that Sedona doesn't pose to much risk to me & my rig. Been looking forward to heading up there since I got the thing a year ago and now I finally will.

It did however cost me $135 for a pair of Red Velvet DM Boots << Boots Clicky >> in order to persuade the wife to let me go for the day. But that is a small price to pay for freedom!

Too Funny Roger!

I'm sitting in McDonalds parking lot in Payson. Going to go check out the Payette Draw with Xtoolbox and TF&J. I guess we're only doing the easier part. I'll let you know how it is, but I won't have any Digital Pictures, Joannie has the Camera.

Noobs should remove the Steprails and Mudflaps to avoid damaging them. They are easy to remove and really you won't miss them that much. Take the rear swaybar off if you really want to be prepared, it'll let you take some better lines with better flex.

Hope to see you all Saturday.

I can probably get the Mudflaps off, but Steprails might be a bit of a challenge in the dark Apparently there are downsides for 7ish to 6ish work sometimes. Any chance of survival if I keep the Steprails on?

EDIT: Well, to make myself feel like a total noob, I could not reach all the screws or figure out the freaking little nub to get the splash guards off! Doing it in the dark didn't quite help either.

When I had my '03 I did the trails with mine on, but did hit one bending it a bit. You'll just have to take easy lines and be spotted on the more difficult ones.

BTW Payette is not for the unmodified (Stock) or intimidated. Very, Very rough on the stock skids, but I had fun. Thanks Xtoolbox and TF&J! I impressed them and some bystanders with the '05 capabilities.

Never said it was.. I'm a little jealous I have to say. You obviously liked it, did you get up the big shelf (2nd part) and drive to FILTER? Did either of them try it? WHERE'S YOUR CAMERA!!

I ran Broken Arrow totally stock with rails and flaps a week after I bought mine. Always suggest taking the rails off just in case. Worst thing to happen to the flaps is that nature rips them off for you....

I didn't try the shelves and got off the creek where the road crosses it. Terra was sound alseep on the Rocks and I didn't want to keep banging her around.

I did like it, but would feel much more comfortable with a lift and skids. Then again I would still find the crunch, bang and screeching unsettling.

I'll definately do it again someday.

BTW, no camera was due to Joannie having it on her trip to Montana. Xtoolbox took some and I think he said he'd post them.

be sure to wear the boots Rog...We may enjoy seeing your in them almost as much as your wife....

Would love to - Shame they are like 5 sizes to small - Damn!

Well while we were on vacation my mother in law and her mother (Lindsays Gran) cleaned up our house. And now the box in which my Differential Skid was in is missing, after I get off work early today to install it. Grrrrrrrrrrr. Will be taking off the rear sway bar, but I guess I'll have to run without my diff armor.

You wouldn't need the diff skid anyways Roger.. Glad you're still coming though

Yeaa - me too. Been wanting to hit Sedona forever. Rear swaybar is off. With the way the X almost sits on the new Timbren bumpstops I put on, it doesn't need it anyway.

Decided on FIrestone Destination MT tires once the Daystar is on. Waldo who will be there tomorrow has them on his X I hear.

Excellent choice on tires mate. I had two sets before moving on to 33" DuellerMTs. You'll love 'em. (And I can get you the right price too..)

Here it is, I just went on a little virtual tour. The jeeps still slowed me up a bit though

Payette ??



These rocks sure look familiar!

That would be the place. I was in the passenger seat on that run.

Yeah, but you weren't for this part.. :p

Ummm... can you keep the pictures elsewhere for now? My noob blood stopped in my veins! I realize that it is not the same trail as the one most people are going to tomorrow (riiiiiight?!) but still... i feel like I am missing my Paris-Dakar experience to help me out tomorrow.

You people are making me have second thoughts here! My mud flaps are off but the rails are still on... and reading other posts does not add to confidence for tomorrow... but I am still coming, we'll see what happens then

Don't panic dude. That trail is way more hardcore than Broken Arrow.

merp merp merp merpwawwwwwwww
Edited to add: P.S. I think the AZ club has some the most laid back members, so I think it is awesome that everyone is comfortable busting some photos out! I mean who cares anyway??

I KNEW you couldn't keep from MERP'n up the Forums for TOOO long!! OH wait.. don't you have something to TELL everyone???? Hmmm???

Just got back from Sedona. No trail carnage (that I know of) & fun was had by all. Pictures to follow (depending on how they turned out) tomorrow.

I'm uploading pics as we speak. Will have them up shortly, I also have some video of Dan coming down that rather awkward rock up the top. Had a great time, will have to see if I can find out what is causing the weird noise up front tho, which will mean many visits to the dealership no doubt.

Here's everyone that showed up. Awesome turn out.

Great new group shot and a good bunch of wheelers . Glad you enjoyed yourself too. You , Mihael, and John all did a great job today . I hope you saw why that trail is so well liked after getting to run it.. Nice to see XTOOLBOX too, there'll be some great pics of him in "the wedge". Get those pics up now, I'm jonesin' already..

Sweet! The best part is that all the headlights are Square!!

NIce turn out, wish i could of made it but had to get up at 5am and work my ass off. Now about about to journey to job #2..... oh horray...

Woot! So this was certainly fun, well worth the extra screws I will need to get for my Xterra! Can't wait to see all the pics/videos people got. I have only a couple pictures and apparently they were all taken right AFTER a wheel (or two) were in the air. Still, my friends are questioning my sanity more than usual already Goal accomplished! I'll post a couple once I recover enough to operate a mouse.

Thanks to everyone that spotted me, if it wasn't for you guys, my pants wouldn't even get a chance to dry up! Looking forward to doing this again!

Mikhail (I know, blame the french for spelling that one!)

Dude, if I knew you're French, I never would've helped you :p J/K nice job driving today

Haha, I am Russian... with Russian name in English spelled using French rules... I am a victim here! I don't think I would've gotten far today without some good pointers! My car looks almost clean now... if I squint.

OK - photos are up:

http://www.rinky.us/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=15

A few samples:

The Gratuitous group shot.


Xterra Butts.


My X.


This doesn't really do justice to how difficult this obsticle was. Well done Joannie.


Video of Dan coming down it:
<< Dan Video Clicky >>

Would love the pics of me coming down the steps! Was having some trouble there getting the clutch out without stalling the X, so still need a little practise off road with the manual trans. My brother in law Scott who tagged along with me now wants a 4x4! lol.

Cropped some of them and posted them in the pics section: http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=002679

Convoy.








Check out DBAX's new plate!


Trying something artistic

This Scion was kinda cool. Caught me off-guard so the pics aren't so good.






Tried to get some shots of the whole convoy in the corners.

I really with I'd paid more attention to the background on this one.

Told you it was a piece 'o cake!

I'm gonna be in trouble soon!




I was farting around with my radio at the Chevron & didn't get names to go with the new faces. For those that don't know, I'm the fat guy with the rowdy kid.

Here is a link to the Sedona AZXC Club pictures

http://members.cox.net/whereskazoo/
Enjoy we have 200+ pics on CD if anybody needs a copy let me know. Walt/Onix/Waldo

I had a blast and thanks again AZXC for haveing me on the club run and a special thanks to Dbax(Dan) for all the great spotting on the trails.
Lots of cool rigs and lots of fun had by all looking forward to the next run if the AZXC club Would have me again.

You fawkers suck!! While you all were out having fun I was kissing ass at work...

I want the CD! Pics of my car with wheels hanging are sure to make my friends questions my sanity... again.

Awesome trip! Thanks to everyone who made it. I want to thank Dan especially for leading the way and helping everyone out.

I will browse my pics today and put up the better ones...between me and my friend , we got about 200.

I just read about what happened. I'm glad you're both OK!

Yeah, that sucks Dan. Can you starting pulling off aftermarket stuff?