Where are the 05 pics?!

Posted by: XChosen

Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:44 AM

I need them bad man.....
Posted by: RI Xterra

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 06:17 AM

I don't think they'll be viewing the X till later on in the day..

I'm waiting too... wink
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 06:17 AM

I've been waiting for months for these pics...Now I can finally start the process of ordering my X.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:11 AM

Somebody posted this on another forum - apparently the text is from Nissan (though I haven't checked). Take it for what it's worth.

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"All-New 2005 Nissan Xterra Follows the Trail of the Original - With More Power, Room and Ruggedness

April 2004 (Newstream) -- When it was originally introduced in 1999, the Nissan Xterra stood out in a crowd of nearly 40 competitive sport utility vehicles with its rugged truck frame, purposeful styling and "everything you need, nothing you don't" adventure positioning. As the all-new, second generation 2005 Xterra makes its world debut at the New York International Auto Show, the competitive field of SUVs has grown to over 70 models. Yet one thing remains unchanged - the Xterra still stands alone as a segment of one.

The 2005 Xterra builds on the original's unique positioning with improvements on all functional and user attributes with more power, more roominess and more features, including enhanced off-road performance systems.

"The changes in the new Xterra are evolutionary, though with a capital E," said Mark McNabb, vice president and general manager, Nissan Division, Nissan North America, Inc. "For 2005, we've made key improvements in the areas customers want most - power, driveability, smoother on-road dynamics, more interior space and cargo versatility and, of course, greater off-road performance."

Two of the most significant changes to the new Xterra are the use of a version of the new "F-Alpha" platform, which was created for use on the new Nissan Titan full-size pickup and Nissan Armada full-size SUV, and the utilization of a new 4.0-liter version of Nissan's VQ-series V6 engine.

"Xterra was a cornerstone vehicle in launching Nissan's remarkable product revival in the late '90s, showing the automotive industry that good things happen when you focus on meeting customers' unmet needs, rather than following the competition. With this new generation design, Xterra still has no equals," said McNabb.

Evolved Exterior Styling

The styling of the new 2005 Xterra evokes that of the breakthrough original design - with more of the same ruggedness and direct function that its designers express as "Xterra DNA." Larger in nearly every dimension, the new look is more exciting, more powerful and more functional.

Key exterior styling features include large, flared fenders, a new versatile roof rack with latchable lid and a new rear bumper design with side steps for easy access to the roof rack. It also offers a large, powerful hood and headlights and Nissan SUV signature angled strut-style grille.

The 2005 Xterra's wheelbase has been extended two full inches for a smoother ride and greater interior room, yet the overall length is only two-tenths of an inch longer due to a reduced front overhang - which enhances maneuverability in off-road hill climbing and trail situations. The Xterra's width has also been increased by 2.5 inches, while height has increased 1.9 inches.

"Xterra has a very large, very loyal following - owners who love the combination of purposeful styling matched with practical size and functionality. Our task with the new design, which I think we've accomplished, is to update the look without losing any of the original's distinctive character," said McNabb. "You should be able to tell with just a glance that this is the next Xterra."

A New Multi-Flex Interior Design

The concept for the first generation Xterra's interior was simple: everything you need, nothing you don't. For the new Xterra, the interior concept is also simple: everything you need, nothing you don't - now truer than ever.

The "truer" comes in many areas, beginning with more room. Front leg room has been increased nearly an inch (0.9 inch) and front head room over half an inch (0.7 inch). But the real gain is in the second row, where leg room has increased 3.6 inches and head room has grown by 2.3 inches.

Interior flexibility has been enhanced a number of ways as well. The 60/40 split folding stadium-style rear seat is joined by an available fold-down front passenger seat, which creates added utility for hauling long recreational gear. The center console has been enlarged and the glove compartment is now a double deck design. There is also additional instrument panel storage. The Xterra Off-Road model includes unique blue seat fabric.

The cargo area is highlighted by an easy-to-clean luggage area flooring and a total of 10 cargo area utility hooks - six on the floor/sides and four on the ceiling and sides (floor hooks can carry up to 110 pounds). A new adjustable channel system in the cargo floor, similar in design to the Utili-track™ system offered on the new Nissan Titan and 2005 Frontier pickups, makes it easier to secure bike racks and other accessories or gear. There's also an available built-in first-aid kit and space to securely carry up to one-gallon jugs. "The new Xterra's combination of thoughtful cargo area features creates an extremely versatile space for hauling all the things that accompany active lives," said McNabb.

Active lives also require an active sound track, so the new Xterra is offered with a premium 300-watt Rockford Fosgate® powered audio system with nine speakers, steering wheel controls, MP3 capability and satellite radio (optional receiver and antenna must be purchased and installed; satellite service must be activated).

A Strong New Platform

From the beginning, Xterra has differed from many other similarly sized SUVs with its truck-based (rather than car-based) platform, a credential that adds to its proven off-road capabilities. For 2005, the new Xterra features a new platform, a modified version of the "F-Alpha" platform developed for use with the full-size Nissan Titan pickup and Armada SUV.

The new Xterra starts with a fully boxed, all-steel ladder frame and adds a steel double-wishbone front suspension with stabilizer bar and rigid leaf spring rear suspension. High-performance gas shocks are available with the Xterra Off-Road model. The new Xterra also features an enhanced ground clearance with a clean underbody to protect components from off-road obstructions.

Powering the new Xterra is a standard 4.0-liter DOHC V6, rated at 250-plus horsepower and 270-plus lb-ft torque (final figures will be announced closer to production). The new engine is an increased displacement version of Nissan's VQ engine series found in the 350Z, Maxima and Altima. It features a longer stroke (than the 3.5-liter version) and has been specifically tuned for SUV and truck applications.

Like others in the VQ family, the new 4.0-liter version includes such advanced design features as Electronic Throttle Control with secondary mapping in 4LO (4WD models), Continuous Valve Timing Control (C-VTC), Nissan variable Induction Control System (NICS), silent timing chain, microfinished camshaft and crankshaft surfaces, molybdenum-coated pistons, resin intake manifold, digital knock control system, high capacity muffler, lightweight aluminum block and platinum-tipped spark plugs.

Two advanced transmissions are available with the 2005 Xterra. The new electronically controlled 5-speed automatic transmission is based on the transmission used in the 350Z, modified for use in truck applications (with an emphasis on acceleration, fuel economy and shift quality). Also available is a 6-speed manual transmission tuned for driving performance and fuel economy and also based on a 350Z design.

"We expect the new Xterra to offer best-in-class horsepower and torque, with exceptional acceleration and driveability, such as acceleration coming out of a corner," said McNabb. "We've given it the hardware to get the job done, on highways and any paths that lead to adventure."

Like the previous generation, the new Xterra is offered in 4WD or 2WD configurations. The part-time 4WD system includes 2WD/4H/4LO modes and electronically controlled transfer case. A Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) system is also available, along with other advanced off-road capabilities.

Other driveline components include engine speed-sensitive power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering and 4-wheel disc brakes with Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD). Available wheels and tires include up to 17-inch wheels with 265/65R17 tires.

Advanced Safety Systems

The new Xterra's list of safety features and equipment includes Zone Body construction with front and rear crumple zones, Nissan Advanced Air Bag System (which includes dual-stage front supplemental air bags with seat belt sensors and a front occupant classification sensor), and 3-point front seat belts with pretensioners and load limiters.

Other standard equipment includes 3-point seat belts for all rear seat occupants, including the center rear position, and the LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) child seat anchor system.

Also available are supplemental front-seat side-impact air bags, and available roof-mounted supplemental curtain air bags for side impact and rollover protection for all outboard passengers.

A Range of Models

The 2005 Xterra will be offered in a choice of models: S, Off-Road and SE. Each is offered with standard 4.0-liter V6 and a choice of manual or automatic transmissions and in 4WD or 2WD configurations. It goes on sale at Nissan dealers nationwide in early 2005.

The new Xterra will be assembled at Nissan's award-winning Smyrna, Tennessee manufacturing facility. Engines will be supplied by Nissan's nearby Decherd, Tennessee engine facility.

"For 2005, Xterra remains a catalyst for adventure," said McNabb. "With aggressive styling, enhanced off-road capabilities, dynamic performance and its unique multi-flex interior, Xterra once again has it all." "
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:24 AM

One word:

Wow.
Posted by: Kaiser

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:25 AM

Where the hell did the "demand" for LARGER come from? I don't want larger! It's not a freakin' Expedition!

I hope it is only marginally bigger...

But thank GOD they're back to square(ish) headlights!!!

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:33 AM

Daddy Likey.....

-J
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:37 AM

I'm loving it....

But that just wet my appetite. MORE MORE MORE!

Now I've just got to figure out how I'm going to fit 3 JL 10W3's and 2 JL amps in there.
Posted by: Guido

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:39 AM

Very nice, if I was in the market for another SUV to replace my X, I would definately get another. Sadly, when I replace the X, it will be with a pickup (Titan or Toyota probably).

Anybody else notice the absence of step rails in that picture?
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:47 AM

We lucky few in NYC get our sneak preview at noon, though apparently Nissan let the cat out of the bag already frown

Sit tight,
Brent
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:53 AM

You guys better be putting those pictures up immediately! laugh laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:58 AM

Kick Ass! I just sent it to my local Nissan dealer, I love seeing it before they do.

The guy had just told me it wouldn't be different on the exterior, only interior. HA. Can't wait for more!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:03 AM

Get enough film.
Me likes. Still got the good old roof rack, and square headlights.

Marvelous.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:09 AM

Film??? Nothing but digital for me please...I don't think I could wait even an hour for developing. laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
Film??? Nothing but digital for me please...I don't think I could wait even an hour for developing. laugh
True That.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:22 AM

Looks like the Xterra mated with a Jeep Grand Cheroke. I have to see the inside to pass further judgement though. I'm happy it still looks like an X but a little sad because the front looks kinda normal. The big thing to me is going to be interior design. The X now is a little chinsey... I'd like to see that stepped up to the next level.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:25 AM

Everything you need, nothing you dont. Right? confused
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:25 AM

I really hope they put a third row seat in it.

(kidding) laugh
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:26 AM

can anybody blow up the current picture, I can't wait for the other picture later this afternoon, laugh MUST HAVE MY XTERRA FIX!!! [Huh?]
Posted by: Origami Gangsta

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:37 AM

Uh, best I could do...

Posted by: IUScott

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:38 AM

Did they forget the step-rails in that pic?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IUScott:
Did they forget the step-rails in that pic?
Maybe they finally realized the step rails are useless.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:43 AM

Quote:
Did they forget the step-rails in that pic?

Everything you need nothing you don't... wink
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:43 AM

Only problem with a new model is having to wait a few months for aftermarket to catch up.
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by INXS:
Quote:
But thank GOD they're back to square(ish) headlights!!!
The Nissan engineers and designers conducted an in-depth study and found that square headlights are not only superior aestheticly, but also, pussies are more drawn to the circular design as in a Fruedian sense the circular design symbolizes a rectum. Not that there is anything wrong with that--but it just did not fit with the "rugged" everything ya need cheezehead" inherent in the Xterra DNA.

Check here for the cite:

[url= http://www.nissandiscoveredroundheadlightsaren\'tascoolassquareheadlightsRsotheybroughtthembackinthe2005model.hellyeah!.com]www.nissandiscoveredroundheadlightsaren\'tascoolassqu areheadlightsRsotheybroughtthembackinthe2005model.hellyeah!.com[/url] wink
The squarish design must symbolize your head. WTF are you smoking?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:57 AM

Wow! But now my curiosity has been provoked even more. An "Off-Road" Package/Edition??? Does that mean factory locker? I've held out until now, trying to determine whether or not I was going to trade up or build mine, so now I have my answer.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:01 AM

They can do just about anything they want to the interior as long as they keep at least the option for a standard DIN sized radio. I can't live with factory crap.
Posted by: Trailmix

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:07 AM

Hmmm... Fender flaring seems to be a bit more pronounced and "PLAZ-TEK" looking... I hope they don't go nutz w/molded plastic/fiberglass in construction.. Nothing like having to replace an entire side of a vehicle when 1/8 of it gets damaged.
Other than that, AMEN to the square headlights, and they didn't "TITANIZE" TOO much of it! I think the boys in Nissan's engineering/design department did well for themselves in the 05 Release. Interior Pix??? :p
Posted by: Bubba-X

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:09 AM

What are some guestimates as to what the starting base model price will be?

Think the prices will be in the same range or a significant increase?
Posted by: MidnightX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Quote:
Originally posted by IUScott:
[b]Did they forget the step-rails in that pic?
Maybe they finally realized the step rails are useless.[/b]
Not for me. frown
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:15 AM

The new '05 truck is looking sweet. laugh I'll be checking this board out as often as I can today. So far so good Nissan. [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Kaiser

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nrg510:
Wow! But now my curiosity has been provoked even more. An "Off-Road" Package/Edition??? Does that mean factory locker? I've held out until now, trying to determine whether or not I was going to trade up or build mine, so now I have my answer.
Keep dreaming... I'm sure it's some better shocks and an offroad decal.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:32 AM

I bet the offroad package will be like what we drive now and the others will be more "car" like with more interior features.
And like you said, some decal.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kaiser442:
Quote:
Originally posted by nrg510:
[b]Wow! But now my curiosity has been provoked even more. An "Off-Road" Package/Edition??? Does that mean factory locker? I've held out until now, trying to determine whether or not I was going to trade up or build mine, so now I have my answer.
Keep dreaming... I'm sure it's some better shocks and an offroad decal.[/b]
I thought it was supposed to have a locker option?
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:32 AM

Here is a little bigger.....

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:33 AM

So how long is this viewing supposed to last....By my clock they should already be there. (noon, right?)
Posted by: IceChickenX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Top Shelf:
One word:

Wow.
One Question:

With the new 4.0L engine...I wonder where the Alternator is being mounted? I hope not below like the 3.3L engine.

IceChickenX
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:41 AM

Better pic

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:42 AM

At the rate I am going, it will be five years before I have my 03 paid off...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:47 AM

UN-BE-LIEVABLE!!!!!

That second pic does it much more justice.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:48 AM

Where are you getting these pics??????
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:49 AM

I just noticed the side-view mirrors....A little bit funky with that inside curve.
Posted by: TK1

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:50 AM

I don't really care for the front end or the fender flares. :rolleyes:

The motor however [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:50 AM

so far I don't like the wheels and I hope it comes with mud/splash guards. I remove them when offroading but I like the fact that they keep the side panels clean during daily driving. Don't care about steprails as long as they have the mounting points for rock sliders.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OhioXterra:
Where are you getting these pics??????
If I told you, I'd have to kill you. laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:54 AM

Here we go...

http://press.nissan-global.com/EN/EVENTS/autoshow.html

Now you don't have to kill me laugh
Posted by: Claus

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:57 AM

Now I am excited, Not that I am going to run out and buy the New Xterra. I hate the front Grille and have too much mula vested in my current 01.

I am excited as I am now the owner of the ORIGINAL Xterra, Unique and still my favorite. Good on Nissan for evoing the X to this extend but I'll keep my baby thank you very much.

The other upside is....change in Model means GREAT prices on the 2003-2004 models bought new...
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:00 AM

I'm assuming that with the extended flairs mud guards aren't really important
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Better pic



Mmmm... Forbidden Xterra..
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:03 AM

Looks like a step built into the rear bumper. Can just barely see something but it would be sweet if that's what it is!!! [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:04 AM

You beat me to it Ohio...I just noticed that too.

BTW-
I have started a new thread for the 05's styling. I'm interested to see everyone's opinions on the next-gen X.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:05 AM

Well now we know what happens when a Titan and a Xterra are left alone for a while.
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:06 AM

"Key exterior styling features include large, flared fenders, a new versatile roof rack with latchable lid and a new rear bumper design with side steps for easy access to the roof rack. It also offers a large, powerful hood and headlights and Nissan SUV signature angled strut-style grille. " smile
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:07 AM

The front is a little too familiar looking but other than that it is still a bad ass looking truck
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snoopy:
"Key exterior styling features include large, flared fenders, a new versatile roof rack with latchable lid and a [b]new rear bumper design with side steps for easy access to the roof rack. It also offers a large, powerful hood and headlights and Nissan SUV signature angled strut-style grille. " smile [/b]
My bad, I guess I just got to excited and read it too quickly. Either way, rock on!
Posted by: Heath22

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:12 AM

Now we need to see the interior. I like it, but it doesn't excite me like the new Frontier, that is a complete redesign. The front end (only major change) does look good and follows suit with the trucks/SUV's from Nissan. I like the wheels and the side moulding looks lower, which may or may not matter. It does look like it's missing something with the step rails gone. But all in all I give it [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]

The fog lights look almost like projector beams?
And the hood looks a little less defined at the 02+. So what is so powerful about it?
Posted by: Kaiser

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:13 AM

And did anyone notice the Rugged Trail T/As on it.... does this mean no more General Crapper (or did they stop that already with the 04s?)??
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snoopy:
"Key exterior styling features include a new versatile roof rack with latchable lid and a [b]new rear bumper design with side steps for easy access to the roof rack. [/b]
So does that mean that the roof basket is now enclosed and possibly lockable?

I wonder what the weight limit on those rear steps is?
Posted by: Heath22

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kaiser442:
And did anyone notice the Rugged Trail T/As on it.... does this mean no more General Crapper (or did they stop that already with the 04s?)??
I think the General Grabbers came on the XE and SE had BFG, maybe all lines will be BFG now.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:15 AM

I like it
Posted by: Alpine Hoy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:17 AM

I will keep my '02. That is hideous. The front end looks like the Nissan Patrols. It doesn't have the nerfbars either. Nothing outdoorsy about that compared to the '04 and earlier. What is the hp?
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TK1:
I don't really care for the front end or the fender flares. :rolleyes:

The motor however [ThumbsUp]
I just keeping telling myself that the front end will becovered/removed with a calmini bumper and a warn winch. Most of the bling will be hidden.
Posted by: surfingteacher

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:20 AM

Gas tank has been moved to the driver side.

I heard that Nissan is trying to make the front ends of all their trucks similar, so that they are easily recognized and identified as being Nissan. That is why it looks so much like the Titan and Frontier.
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:22 AM

where did you get that the gas tank has been moved to the driver side. I can't tell by the picture.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:26 AM

Not too bad...

little bit blingy.

Does it still have solid axle in back?
Posted by: Origami Gangsta

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:28 AM

I don't see it either.. Though it's preferable, personally, it's not a HUGE deal.

Notice the front door handles? They seem to be more of the "industrial refrigarator" type.

So far, I think Nissan has ANOTHER winnar on their hands. Ever since the first X, they have been on a roll, I must say. Xterra, Altima, Z, Maxima, Titan, Frontier, now the new X. I like it. smile
Posted by: surfingteacher

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by buffalo:
where did you get that the gas tank has been moved to the driver side. I can't tell by the picture.
Click HERE and check out the high def pic. You can see it better.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:28 AM

Basic design is still the same. I like that.

I don't care for the front end. I am one of those people that like the ROUND headlights.

I like a distinctive front end so the X stands out from the other Nissan trucks. But a ne bumber would accomplish that.

The engine upgrade is a definite PLUS [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: surfingteacher

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:29 AM

Kinda strange that it has square headlights ang round fog lights.
Posted by: Origami Gangsta

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:29 AM

I see it now.

Pop open type, eh? No more locking cap needed! [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:34 AM

what?!? square headlights and no hood bulge??? it's like the styling is going backwards!! wink
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JeffW:
Does it still have solid axle in back?
Yes
Posted by: Hank

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:37 AM

And from the high def. pics, it looks like the fogs are halogen and not projectors...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:40 AM

still just 1 tow hook, but looks to be a new design.

wonder if i can retrofit the new plastic corner bumper pieces onto my 2000...
Posted by: surfingteacher

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cranky:
what?!? square headlights and no hood bulge??? it's like the styling is going backwards!! wink
What you talking 'bout, Willis? I see a bulge in the hood.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:46 AM

Nice, big front tow ring. smile

It's the little things that make you happy.

Nice lookin' truck, but thankfully doesn't make me wanna trade my '03 in right away. Hell, maybe I'll buy one for the wife.
Posted by: Claus

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cranky:
what?!? square headlights and no hood bulge??? it's like the styling is going backwards!! wink
yup the discovered they round headlights were too [Rainbow]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:51 AM

new lockable cargo basket means that nothing taller than about 6" will fit inside...
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:52 AM

It seems to me that the body side moldings are too low, shouldn't they be mounted at the most pronounced portion of the door so when you open the door they make contact first IMO
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by buffalo:
It seems to me that the body side moldings are too low, shouldn't they be mounted at the most pronounced portion of the door so when you open the door they make contact first IMO
I think you'd locate them at the most common height of other car doors.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:55 AM

Quote:
It seems to me that the body side moldings are too low, shouldn't they be mounted at the most pronounced portion of the door so when you open the door they make contact first IMO
not to mention they look like they belong on a honda element
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:57 AM

Now the question remains....When do they start taking orders?
Posted by: Mike Supercharged

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:00 AM

The other question remains...what do they do with the pathie?
Posted by: XChosen

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:02 AM

Engine [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]

Rest... [Sleep]
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:06 AM



The more I look the more I'm liking it.

But it better come in yellow! wink
Posted by: steinism

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:15 AM

just saw the vehicle at rock center. it's exactly what was posted at the beginning of this thread. it also has a prototype dana rear and coil over struts up front. NO TORSION BARS. the oil pan was very out in the open in front of the forward crossmember. easily prone for damage, but a skid plate could cover it. i haven't had time to read this whole thread so i'm sorry if this has been discussed already. brent and a few other took plenty of pictures. brent is on his way to a kinkos to upload them soon. they had the truck on this make shift rock hill in front of the today show with some camping gear set up.

they wouldn't open it up for us or look under the hood so we couldn't find where the alternator was located. but there are some pictures of the engine in the new booklet of the vehicle. it looked like a cross between a titan, liberty and xterra and yes there is a step built into the rear corner pieces. the tires were 265/75/16(32x10.5) with front and rear disk brakes.
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:18 AM

somebody educate me, what replaces the torsion bars and whats the advantages/disadvantages
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:25 AM

Stein-

Were you able to check out the interior?
Posted by: airbutchie

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:29 AM

O-Oh... It looks like my 2001 will soon be a 2005 model year!!! I'm totally diggin' it... Now we need to see interior pics... Brent, hurry up man... Upload those damn pics!!! Hehhehehhe.. [Too much XOC]

- Air B

PS. Thanks in advance for the pics, man!!!
Posted by: steinism

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
Stein-

Were you able to check out the interior?
no we weren't able to look inside or under the hood. they said it was still a "prototype" vehicle.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:31 AM

anyone know about the locker rear diff yet? did they do it?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:37 AM

Quote:
The part-time 4WD system includes 2WD/4H/4LO modes and electronically controlled transfer case .
Does this mean getting into 4WD with a dial instead of a lever? If it does, I'm out. frown
I like my transfer case to go "ka-thunk".
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:43 AM

Hey guys I think this will be at the auto show here in NY which I will be attending. Should I take some pics of it when I go?
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IraSel:
Hey guys I think this will be at the auto show here in NY which I will be attending. Should I take some pics of it when I go?
[LOL] [LOL] [LOL] [LOL] [LOL]
Posted by: Mike Supercharged

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:45 AM

[Spit]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shahram:
Quote:
The part-time 4WD system includes 2WD/4H/4LO modes and [b]electronically controlled transfer case .
Does this mean getting into 4WD with a dial instead of a lever? If it does, I'm out. frown
I like my transfer case to go "ka-thunk".[/b]
You're out, then.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:47 AM

[Spit] [LOL] [Spit] [LOL]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:51 AM

http://www.infinitinews.com/

Click on 05 Xterra!!!
Posted by: steinism

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:51 AM

there's no more sunroof option and the gear basket is lockable up top. the rear cargo area is cool allowing you too put cargo hooks in the floor with storage underneath it and the rear seats folds down without having to take out the seat cushions. wheel base it bigger too with a better approach angle. the front sway bar was huge on this thing. and the gas tank is located on the drivers side now. it's a whole new platform with a bigger frame.
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by buffalo:
somebody educate me, what replaces the torsion bars and whats the advantages/disadvantages
Coil springs are replacing the torsion bars and it looks like struts instead of shocks. The only dissadvantage of coils is additional sprung weight. The advantages are that they are known for a smother more controlled easier to tune ride. They are definately a more advanced suspension system

Another upside is that they are easier to work with for lift kits since there are many more lift options available for coil overs.

Look for a much more involved aftermarket since now a company can make a product that can run across three or four different vehicles. For the first time it really makes financial sense to build parts for Nissans.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:52 AM

Thank the lord for Double-DIN radio chassis!!!!

and I love the locking roof box.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:53 AM

http://www.infinitinews.com/images_kam/bigprod_images/05_xterra.jpg
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:57 AM

I don't know about this.... confused

Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OhioXterra:
Sweet! Neat little step looking thing on the rear bumper

Ok so does it still have the Gear basket? Where is the alternator?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 11:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
I don't know about this.... confused
what's wrong with it?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:01 PM

Where the hell are Brent’s pics? He must have gotten mugged on the way to Kinko’s – damn New Yorkers…
Posted by: skiterra

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:01 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:02 PM

Couple of interior pics for everyone.

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/13_2005_xterra.jpg

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/14_2005_xterra.jpg
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:02 PM

Sweeeetttt........Nissan does it again!!! [Wave]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:02 PM

I'm loving the swept back wind deflector going into the locking basket. Beautiful! The interior is perfect as well. Not too overdone.
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:03 PM

Still has the basket, but apparently it's enclosed and 'latchable' as Nissan puts it (lockable?). No news on the alternator, Nissan wouldn't open the hood at the preview.

What caught my eye in their press release (quoted earlier in this thread) was 250hp and a 6-speed manual transmission. cool

That tailgate will take some getting used to with the offset Nissan emblem and Xterra badge on the hump.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:04 PM



Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:05 PM

the whole rear step thing doesn't seem very functional to me, whenever i need to get up there I get on top of the rear tire. If you use that step you can only reach that corner which can also be reached by standing on the rear bumper.
Posted by: Ruttiger

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:06 PM

I just got back to work from NYC
mmmmmmmm......wine
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:07 PM

It looks a little forshortened after the front doors to me when viewed from the side. I like the front 3/4 view. The back will just take some getting used to.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueSky42:
Still has the basket, but apparently it's enclosed and 'latchable' as Nissan puts it (lockable?). No news on the alternator, Nissan wouldn't open the hood at the preview.

What caught my eye in their press release (quoted earlier in this thread) was 250hp and a 6-speed manual transmission. cool

That tailgate will take some getting used to with the offset Nissan emblem and Xterra badge on the hump.
I'm going to have to agree. They probably could have done a better job at laying out those badges. But I'm so far happy with it. This '05 is sweet.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:09 PM

i like the offset handle on the rear hatch, but not the badging strewn all over the place.

i also like the new xterra font.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:11 PM

The more I see of it, the more I like it. Has anyone heard if a locker will be a factory option yet? I've missed it if it was posted.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:11 PM

i also like how they blended the rear wiper into the lines of the bulge.
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:12 PM

They moved the gas door to the wrong side!

Wonder if the top of the basket is removable for larger items.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:12 PM

In profile, the front clip resembles a late-model Explorer....But now I'm just nit-picking. I LOVE this thing. Where do I sign?
Posted by: IUScott

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:13 PM

I think the rear fenders are FUGLY! Not sure if I like the cover to the basket and the short manual shifter, and the side molding looks a bit low to me. But that is my 4 cents. With all that...I still cant wait to go to local dealer and sit in one!! Gotta love the X deep down no matter what!! smile
Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:14 PM

Don't forget these:















Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:15 PM

I like the hand-brake too. Just noticed it. That 250 HP and 6-speed is what will get me to the dealer. Otherwise, nice. Hoping for locker.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:16 PM

keep looking at the picture of the back...

looks like the spare sits a lot higher and closer to the bottom of the frame.
Posted by: 1114

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:17 PM

Is this a clutch interlock bypass? Look in the lower left hand corner of the photo, the button on the dash called "Clutch Start". Anyone know if it is indeed a bypass?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:18 PM

[ThumbsDown] Can you say UGLY ???? I think you can... [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:18 PM

For its use in Xterra, the platform utilizes an independent double-wishbone front and rigid leaf spring rear suspension, standard 4.0-liter DOHC V6 rated at 250-plus horsepower and 270-plus lb-ft of torque, and a choice of 5-speed automatic or 6-speed manual transmissions.

250 HP now thats what I am talking about [ThumbsUp] . I totally support the fact the the lack of power has been under addressed. Finally our prayers have been answered. However... a six speed manual transmission? [Freak]
Posted by: Axle

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:


Damn, those are up here in the high desert. Wish I had run into them while they were out doing this.

Axle
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1114:
Is this a clutch interlock bypass? Look in the lower left hand corner of the photo, the button on the dash called "Clutch Start". Anyone know if it is indeed a bypass?
Looks like it is. Nice.
Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:19 PM

For all the pictures go to:

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra.shtml

For a technical write up go to:

http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/2005vehicles/xterra/glance.shtml
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:19 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jesus Freak:
Couple of interior pics for everyone.

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/13_2005_xterra.jpg

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/14_2005_xterra.jpg
[/QUO TE]

I'm going to make the assumption that this particular model shown is the off-road. It does not have any SE badging and it is a manual. I don't "think" Nissan will start offering a manual in the SE again, but who knows. I did notice the electronic 4wd, let's hope that maybe, just maybe, manual is still available and that you have to get the electronic as an option. I did notice the four empty buttons across from the 4wd, hopefully that will include some off-road goodies like a locker. (Really want to avoid the out of pocket expense personally.) I also like the improved dash layout. My 03 is hard to read at certain times of the day because of the plastic cover (seems like a common complaint that Nissan fixed.) As for the styling, for the most part it is great, there are some minor things, but I guess we should all look at the bright side, at least they did not soccer mom it out all the way!
Posted by: Hank

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:20 PM

I have to agree with some of the others - not digging the locale of the badges in the rear. Other than that, I think I may have to own an X again. This 05 revision is all around great IMHO smile

And plus, you could always debadge the back and reposition them to a different location with another set of OEM emblems. Not a biggie obviously, but if someone wanted to, they could...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THE PIT BULL:
[ThumbsDown] Can you say UGLY ???? I think you can... [ThumbsDown]
Your just jealous of the square headlights. laugh
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
[b]I don't know about this.... confused
what's wrong with it?[/b]
The rear logo and name plates looks like they were put on by someone who had a few too many.
Posted by: Canadian5150

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:21 PM

I like the shorter shifter... I think this is also due to the fact the the center console between the seats is a lot higher !!!
Posted by: 2001frontier

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:22 PM

I think it is bad ass!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:23 PM

Click on the 'Pricing' link and you get a popup page to 'about:blank'
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:25 PM

The rear is fugly. It looks cutie-pants-like. But everything else looks hot.

If you ask me though, the good old X looks more rugged.
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:25 PM

Quote:
Damn, those are up here in the high desert. Wish I had run into them while they were out doing this.

Axle[/QB][/QUOTE]

Looks like thats probably Joshua Tree National Park.
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:25 PM

I dont care for the "xterra" logo change. and the rear end does look a little funky...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:27 PM

Plus if you look at it real close from behind, it mimicks a Rav4. Ughh.
Posted by: number41

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:29 PM

Badges? We dont need no stinking badges.

Hmm, I might just have to become an Xterra owner again soon!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:29 PM

Hopefully they'll figure out a better rear badge location prior to production. After reading more and looking at it more, I think I better start talking to the wife. It could take till 2005 to get her to part with the $$. I'm curious about the MPG and price now.
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:31 PM

The BSM does look not only low but HUGE! Although with OE 32inch tires it might sit higher?

The rear bumper step is an abomination. Not only a step but a channel to slip your fot into? I'd personally like to thank all of you short people that have complained about getting to the roof rack. This was your fault laugh

The rear bumper looks even bigger and bulkier than the existing one as a whole while the rear fender well will take some getting used to. The front end changes were inevitible with the Nissan design concept of keeping a family resemblence.

The obvious upside with the vehicle being designed for 32inch tires is... NO PROBLEM GETTING 33s in there!

Just think guys: 33's minimum , a locked Dana rear end , 250HP, K&N intake and an exhaust taking you to a rousing 265HP and lots of aftermarket support. It'll be a monster.

I personally like the fact that the interior is understated and remaining functional. It's interesting that the only chrome pieces are the door locks. I personally think my X has the best cup holders in history and it doesn't look like they kept the same idea.

Did anyone notice all of those dummy switches right in the middle of the dash under the radio? Nice!

How can anyone complain about a 6 speed manual? Gears, gears, gears! I like the location of the shifter as well. Those long throws on the current model are very truck like and with that HP, quicker shifting through the gears will be a lot more fun!

All in all, I'm impressed. The little knick knacky things like badging are tiny compared to the degree in which they could have screwed up the X in the pursuit of making it a generic SUV for the masses. It still keeps a unique shape and design. It seems that they have kept it rugged and unique, adressed issues concerning horsepower and improved almost every aspect of it while still keeping the features that makes the X unique.

Very nice! [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DD:
Plus if you look at it real close from behind, it mimicks a Rav4. Ughh.
Huh, looks pretty much just like the current model except for some minor integrations and the change in badging. Speaking of which, if the location of stick on badging makes anyone not like the truck, you have big problems! Hello, hairdryer and dental floss! laugh I took it off my current Xterra; I'd do it again!
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:39 PM

Solar Yellow?



It's a bit tough trying to mask a lighter color over the black but you get the idea.
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:41 PM

Allright Snoop. How about with an ARB and 33's or bigger? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's just trying to imagine the mod potential.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:42 PM

WOW!

I would miss the extra shifter, but with a locker, more horsepower, and REAR DISC BRAKES (!!!), I could overlook it.

I told myself I'd never buy a brand new vehicle again, so I guess I'll have to wait about 3 years to upgrade. frown
Posted by: surfingteacher

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:46 PM

Am I the only person that wants to see the bottom of this thing?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:46 PM

Anyone who finds pictures of the rear cargo area gets a gold star!
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by surfingteacher:
Am I the only person that wants to see the bottom of this thing?
Link to Brent\'s Post
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:52 PM

OK heres my list of things I don't like
The chrome Grill
The interior Chrome switches
The location of the badges on the rear hatch
The new logo, what was wrong with the old one
The interior seat fabric color
No sun roof, going to miss my see thru wind deflector
Location of gas tank, should have left it where it was
Don't like the rims
Location of body side moldings, shouldn't they be higher. [Freak]

Things I do like
Latchable roof basket, although I hope the lid is removable for taller items
redesign of roof, especially along the basket
where is the cruise control located at now/
Steering wheel, although I hope it now includes an on/off or volume control
the fact that it now comes with 32' tires
The fact that you don't have to remove the rear seat cushions to lower the seats. laugh

Now lets see the interior especially the cargo area!!!
cool
Posted by: RedX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:53 PM

Not too shabby....

Looks a bit more "plastic-ky".....but it also appears that many of the initial elements of our (dare I say it) first generation X's have been massaged a bit to lead to a more uniform and integral design( example....the roof rack appears more thought out and integrated and less tacked on to me).

I like the drivetrain power increase.....don't like the push-button, turn-knob, or whatever transfer case shifting.

Overall.....cool. I'll stick with my utilitarian 2000 X....but in reference to how the 2005 could have been really dicked up, I am impressed with the overall logical metamorphosis.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:57 PM

Alright guys, you sure as hell are nit-picky...

Rear badges: Surprisingly, they were asking us what we thought about them, so they seem to know it's unusual. Apparently the design guy was pretty firm that that was how they should be, but it's one of MANY things still not nailed down yet. Final design will be nailed down in May sometime.

Rest of my comments with my pix:
http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007776

Brent
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 12:59 PM

Hey Snoopy, good job but I just had to adjust the color on the yellow, but I did make you a white one. laugh


Posted by: surfingteacher

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snoopy:
Quote:
Originally posted by surfingteacher:
[b]Am I the only person that wants to see the bottom of this thing?
Link to Brent\'s Post [/b]
Thanks, snoop
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
http://www.xterraownersclub.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=reply;f=1;t=007776

Brent
Hey Brent, you might want to double check that link.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nrg510:
I'm going to make the assumption that this particular model shown is the off-road. It does not have any SE badging and it is a manual.
The one shown in NYC is a "hybrid" package, incorporating features that most likely won't all show up together on a final trim. It's not an S trim, an SE trim, or an Off Road trim.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
Hey Brent, you might want to double check that link.
Oops: http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007776
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:37 PM

I don't like it too much on the exterior, kind of reminds me of the new ford suv designs. I am liking the engine and other technical improvements though.
Posted by: NismoXse02

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:38 PM

Sweet, I like mine more. [ThumbsUp] I was afraid that they were going to release a better looking vehicle that was going to make me go get one, but now I'll wait and see what the next design is in another 5 years. laugh

On a side note, why in the hell did they still not put the spare on the back? mad
Posted by: airbutchie

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
The one shown in NYC is a "hybrid" package
No way... HYBRID?! That would definately raise the gas mileage on our baby!!! Hhahahhahaa... [ThumbsUp]

- Air B
Posted by: BurgPath

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:39 PM

Whats with the rear side step? What was a cheap to replace simple panel is now going to be a more expensive, more likely to get cracked part.

If you need access to the roof, isn't that what the rear tire is for? smile
Posted by: Xterra Kid 2003

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:39 PM

Good job on that yellow, whoever fixed up Snoopys. I pretty much everything except the latching gear basket and the location of the badging on the rear hatch. [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: BigE515

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:39 PM

I like the 6 speed manual, no step rails, bigger engine, bigger tires and some of the styling. I dislike the boxy rear half of the X, the body is totally flat in the back, wussy dial for 4wd, "Avalanche" fenders and the dash setup. If I don't get a pickup truck when I purchase my next vehicle, I'd buy it.
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:42 PM

anyone else notice that the new radio plays MP3's?

look at this pic

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/colour/13_2005_xterra.jpg

3000 x 1984 to big to post
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:44 PM

After looking at the pics and thinking hard about it, I'd definitely buy this as my next SUV - 'cept the next version will probably be out by the time I finally get rid of my current Xterra.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ramness:
anyone else notice that the new radio plays MP3's?

look at this pic

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/colour/13_2005_xterra.jpg

3000 x 1984 to big to post
They commissioned Rockford Fosgate to badge the factory radio...They are claiming 300 watts. No matter what I'm still replacing it.
Posted by: RI Xterra

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:52 PM

I kinda like it..
Posted by: Alpine Hoy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:54 PM

Quote:

If you ask me though, the good old X looks more rugged.[/QB]
JACKPOT!!! This looks to luxurious to me. I like the horsepower. Other than that, I am not sold on it. The step on the rear bumper doesn't look safe. If you get a fatass hopping to put something on top, it (the bumper) is going to fall off. Interior, too futuristic. Too much plastic. I DO like the roofrack, except the new XTERRA logo. They should stay with the old XTERRA logo. What's with that?
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:55 PM

It looks like Nissan has not integrated other vehicle functions into the radio or integrated the radio into the dashboard like they have done with other vehicles. That was a concern of mine since that makes it very difficult to upgrade.

Ya know, I was just outside looking at my X. It's cool.
Posted by: Alpine Hoy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DD:
Plus if you look at it real close from behind, it mimicks a Rav4. Ughh.
RAV4, Suburu Forester, Ford Escape all thrown into one, with a killer engine. I want the engine in my '02.
Posted by: Heath22

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 01:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nrg510:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jesus Freak:
[b]Couple of interior pics for everyone.

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/13_2005_xterra.jpg

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/14_2005_xterra.jpg
[/QUO TE]

I'm going to make the assumption that this particular model shown is the off-road. It does not have any SE badging and it is a manual. I don't "think" Nissan will start offering a manual in the SE again, but who knows. I did notice the electronic 4wd, let's hope that maybe, just maybe, manual is still available and that you have to get the electronic as an option. I did notice the four empty buttons across from the 4wd, hopefully that will include some off-road goodies like a locker. (Really want to avoid the out of pocket expense personally.) I also like the improved dash layout. My 03 is hard to read at certain times of the day because of the plastic cover (seems like a common complaint that Nissan fixed.) As for the styling, for the most part it is great, there are some minor things, but I guess we should all look at the bright side, at least they did not soccer mom it out all the way![/b]
On the Frontier, only the SE was availble with the manual, then there was an LE auto and the "Off-Road" and it was a auto if I'm remembering right when I built one on their site. There was no XE. I'm sure the X will follow suit. Has anyone noticed that the roof hump is downsized? It doesn't look at bold to tall. Makes me wonder if the statium seating is less dramatic????
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:00 PM

Quote:
I want the engine in my '02.
Bingo.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:09 PM

I like it.... but.... I dunno.

Something about the side view. I don't like the way the front end looks from the side.

I also don't like the placement of the Nissan and Xterra emblems on the hatch (I know, I know. No big deal. But still..)

Other then that, I think it will grow on me the more I look at it. Can't wait to see it in person.

I have not the time to read all the posts (sorry), so can anyone tell me when these are expected at the dealerships?
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:11 PM

hmm notice the airdam is now bolted directly to the roof. Not so easy to remove to clean under...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:12 PM

I just called a couple dealerships in town and none of them have any idea when they'll be getting any.
Posted by: BigE515

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ramness:
anyone else notice that the new radio plays MP3's?

look at this pic

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/colour/13_2005_xterra.jpg

3000 x 1984 to big to post
I would have kept the stock cd changer that came with mine if it played MP3s frown
Posted by: Paul H

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:16 PM

I like it
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Doug703:
I like it.... but.... I dunno.

Something about the side view. I don't like the way the front end looks from the side.

I have not the time to read all the posts (sorry), so can anyone tell me when these are expected at the dealerships?
The side view...you're right. In profile, the front fenders and front doors look like the current X, but then it seems like the rear doors and cargo area are compressed, like they're too short and thus out of proportion with the rest of the truck. Almost looks like a bad Photoshop job.

I recall seeing somewhere that Nissan says it'll be at dealers in early '05.

It looks pretty good, they didn't screw it up, but I'm still happy with my '02 and won't feel deprived when I start seeing 2005's on the road. So all in all, a [ThumbsUp] .
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Hoy:
I will keep my '02. That is hideous. The front end looks like the Nissan Patrols. It doesn't have the nerfbars either. Nothing outdoorsy about that compared to the '04 and earlier. What is the hp?
Agreed...yuck. Although, I would like the engine.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:27 PM

Quote:
anyone else notice that the new radio plays MP3's?
but still no audio inputs.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 3voices:
Quote:
anyone else notice that the new radio plays MP3's?
but still no audio inputs.
If you really need them you could do an FM modulator and install your own jack on one of the switch locations. There seem to be plenty available. I've done this many times where people wanted to plug in portable MP3 players. However, if they are really thinking, they would have Rockford build in the capability to interface with their hard drive system. I doubt it though. You overpay for all that stuff anyway. It's better and cheaper to go strait aftermarket.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:33 PM

I like the looks and REALLY like the new engine and tranny, but how much more expensive will it be? Hopefully the shared platform will keep costs down, but I'd guess about $5k more than the current model.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:34 PM

I'd be extremely upset if MSRP tips over $30k
Posted by: JoshuaT

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:42 PM

Dislikes:
1. No sunroof option
2. Badge placement on the back
3. Bland interior

Likes:
1. Exterior Styling
2. Integrated step in rear bumper

Overall I think this is what the 2002 refresh should have been. No offense to people with the 2002 - 2004 models but they just don't seem to fit in the evolution. I do think the interior of the 2002-2004 run is better than this though. The interior is too similar to the 2005 Frontier and Pathfinder. I think they are too bland and uninteresting. What I like the best is that this makes my 2000 model still seem pretty fresh and stylish. Often when a new model of a vehicle is introduced the changes are so radical that the outgoing model looks extremely dated, but with the 2005 Xterra my 2000 seems to still be fresh.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:42 PM

Just got home from NYC, they must have asked us like 10 times what we would pay for it. It is going to be around 30K or more I think
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
I just called a couple dealerships in town and none of them have any idea when they'll be getting any.
Dude they are not even in production yet. 2004's just hit the lots in November! Probaly wont be till late summer / early fall.
Posted by: Powerguy38

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:44 PM

I don't like it at all. It looks like every other yuppie scum SUV on the market now. No longer can they say "Everything you need, nothing you don't" frown
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:47 PM

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just got home from NYC, they must have asked us like 10 times what we would pay for it. It is going to be around 30K or more I think
they'd better release the Xtrail in the US market then, or they'll be missing a ton of business on the low end.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:51 PM

Why is it that the most common comment here seems to be about the f%$#^ing badge placement???!!!!

I thought this was a group of people who personalized their vehicles anyway. If badge placement is the worst thing that Nissan did with the new generation, then they did pretty damn well in my book.
Posted by: Stonecoldchavez

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 02:55 PM

I am home boys (and girls). I will have my pictures from today uploaded to NJAX.org in a little bit.

Later,
Stone

My pictures are uploaded now. I hope you can see them.

2005 pics
Posted by: Miikkaa

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:11 PM

I'm back too!! And with a few more shots .
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 3voices:
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just got home from NYC, they must have asked us like 10 times what we would pay for it. It is going to be around 30K or more I think
they'd better release the Xtrail in the US market then, or they'll be missing a ton of business on the low end.
Why would they place the X in the same price segment as the Pathfinder? It wouldn't make any sense to have them sitting at the same price point. The Pathy projects to be in the 32k-38 range. I'm sure Nissan will have X models that will fill the $23-30k reange depending on trim level.

I hope they don't roll out a great vehicle and them shoot themselves in the foot by trying to bump up the price tag too much. It could backfire and create the same consumer confusion that resulted when the Altima's introduction conflicted with the Maxima.

What made the X a winner in the first place was the fact that we as consumers felt that we were getting great value from our purchase.
Posted by: Stonecoldchavez

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:17 PM

My take on today......it was pretty cool.

Got to see some friends and meet some new people too.

As for the truck......Brent probably said it all already.

I have mixed views (more positive) on it without seeing the interior. Some of the things Nissan changed were good (approach angles and things hanging low underneath, bigger motor). Others bad: the sump pan location, IN FRONT of the crossmember, ability to fit larger than 32" tires.

Unfortunatley, we could not get an answer about the alternator location, interior power sources, or inside hatch release, etc.)

I want to thank Nissan for inviting us. I had a great time today.

Stone
Posted by: Stonecoldchavez

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
Quote:
Originally posted by 3voices:
[b]
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just got home from NYC, they must have asked us like 10 times what we would pay for it. It is going to be around 30K or more I think
they'd better release the Xtrail in the US market then, or they'll be missing a ton of business on the low end.
Why would they place the X in the same price segment as the Pathfinder? It wouldn't make any sense to have them sitting at the same price point. The Pathy projects to be in the 32k-38 range. I'm sure Nissan will have X models that will fill the $23-30k reange depending on trim level.

I hope they don't roll out a great vehicle and them shoot themselves in the foot by trying to bump up the price tag too much. It could backfire and create the same consumer confusion that resulted when the Altima's introduction conflicted with the Maxima.

What made the X a winner in the first place was the fact that we as consumers felt that we were getting great value from our purchase.[/b]
Socal,

How much would you pay for a 250hp V6 then? You gotta figure Nissan to had 5K to the price for the motor alone, right? We told them not more then 30k total for the truck otherwise it is in Pathy territory.

Stone
Posted by: XCJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:23 PM

14 pages, I didn't check to see if this site was already there, but here is more pictures of the '05 that I found online.

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra.shtml

Im am going to be jelous [Crybaby]
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:25 PM

Man, those are some ugly headlights.

edit: Blech. The whole thing is awful. Looks like I'll be going back to Toyota in a couple of years.

edit 2: The more I look at it the more I want to get rid of my Xterra and just get a Landcruiser.

also, screw all you square-headlight hippies, you're ruining the future.
Posted by: XCJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:28 PM

for some reason, the interior reminds me of a land rover discovery...

and after looking at it, the gas cap is on the wrong side, and the rear wiper is backwards...
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:33 PM

Stone, Not trying at all to be a smart ass. I'm genuinely curious because this is a question I have allways had of manufactureres.

Does the manufacturing of a 250HP V6 cost significantly more to produce than a 170HP V6? Or is it the marketing that creates a more expensive vehicle. Possibly it could be a little bit of both.

You can say that , "Well the R&D of the new engine has a cost attatched to it so therefore that cost is factored into the cost of the new vehicle."

But doesn't that same engine appear or will appear in no less than FIVE different vehicles? By utilizing this engine and getting maximum return on their R&D dollar, wouldn't that , or shouldn't that effectively reduce the costs associated with producing the vehicle? And now consider how much long term usage Nissan has gotten from previous engines and it isn't hard to think that we will be seeing this engine in various incarnations for AT LEAST 10 years.

So, I ask again: Why would this engine be any more expensive to produce? What other aspects of the vehicle would drasticaly (remember there are many who purchased their X's in the neighborhood of $22-$25k) increase the cost?

It does look more solid. We'll probably be seeing thicker sheet metal, thicker glass and you have to figure the rear disks might cost a little more. Outsourcing Dana rear ends take away an in house product thus is marginally more expensive. The interior doesn't look drasticaly more expensive or elaborate and the tires are a bit bigger but when you are purchasing thousands of tires the associated costs are not going to be significant.

Look at a $32k vehicle in real world numbers. With a couple of grand down you are looking at a $500-$600 monthly payment after tax and title depending on your credit rating. How many people here would be X owners if their nut to own it was $550+ a month. $550 a month is a LOT of change.

The question of "how much would you be willing to pay" should not be based on the highest possible denomitor but on what would you consider a great value. Nissan shouldn't be trying to get the absoulete top dollar they can with each vehicle. They should be concentrating on bulding value, customer loyalty and creating customers who are going to graduate trough their line of cars.

The bottom line is that if Nissan puts this at a hard $30k merely because they feel that they can justify it they are going to be losing a huge segment (including the people on this board that have commented time and time again that price and value were two major factors in their purchase descisions and in doing so have opined the the 4runner, although a nice vehicle, was too expensive for their budget at $30+k) of the potential X demographic.]

BTW If anyone at Nissan is reading this , my services are available at a very reasonable consulting fee. [Wave]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:40 PM

Socal put it exactly right. Besides, as of right now pricing is mere speculation to anyone. Nissan learned it's pricing lesson with the early 90's generation 300ZX. (At least I would hope)
Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:41 PM

Someone was wondering what a quick photo-chop would look like of a 3" lift, 35s and a bumper...

Stock:

Lifted:
Posted by: surfingteacher

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Miikkaa:
I'm back too!! And with a few more shots .
Looking at one of your shots, it looks like it might be possible to take the whole front sway bar off, rather than just disconnecting it.

[img]http://www.njax.org/image/id-3332/fpThumb-large[/img]

Did you get a look to see if that was possible? Just curious.
Posted by: superjens

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 03:46 PM

Coolest idea ever:

Posted by: airbutchie

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by superjens:
Coolest idea ever:

I hope they have a locking feature to it...

- Air B
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:13 PM

If the Nissan people make it through all 14 pages so far, I'll add my $0.02 on the price issue.

The V6 4Runner can be had in the neighborhood of $30K, and it has some interesting advantages. Its torsion limited slip center differential (which can be locked) allows it to be driven in 2WD, 4WD (unlocked), and 4WD locked (as well as 4LO both locked and unlocked). It also gets upwards of 20 MPG with similar power. This is not to mention that, in-general, Toyota's are percieved to be better built (higher resale).

So... if the 05 Xterra gets too close to $30K, you'll not only be competing with the Pathfinder,
you'll also be in 4Runner territory. I like your 6-speed manual, but at $30K I'd get the 4Runner.

I bought my X because of the value. If I can get an 05 4x4 manual (base) near $23K, I'll be back on the Nissan lot. Much more $$ then that and I won't be able to justify it.

I also want to say "good job," from what I've seen so far, the 05 represents a nice evolution of the nameplate.
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:21 PM

I'd rather buy a 2005 Pathfinder, looks way better.

[img]http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=19d016c0-6038-365b-6820-1d65158a4e62&size=lg[/img]
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by airbutchie:
I hope they have a locking feature to it...
Do you see a key hole?

Also speaking of locking, why did they take away the locking glove box?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by altima:
I'd rather buy a 2005 Pathfinder, looks way better.

You know that has an IRS, right?
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:32 PM

Whats an IRS?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:34 PM

Independent rear suspension.

Great for trips to the mall, piss poor for offroad use.
Posted by: xterraroy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:36 PM

i dont like it. why make it any bigger i am 5/10 and i cant reach the roof with ease on my 2003. 2005 2 inches taller worst for the trail. longer wheel base worst for the trail. the price will be more then the 2004s. i bet it will weigh more. and i bet the mpg will be the same. i see a jeep liberty in my future. but the 2005 x does look nice.
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:36 PM

Thats what I thought. It just looks sharper. The 05 X dosen't have any trim or anything, looks plain.
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:37 PM

Independant Rear Suspension. As opposed to the X that has the nearly extinct live (straight) axle.

Cushier ride, definately NOT for off-roading.

X - Wants to go tow to toe with Jeep!
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:38 PM

I'll stick with the 02 X.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xterraroy:
i see a jeep liberty in my future.
They're pretty [Rainbow] looking, though.
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 04:48 PM

A couple of intersting notes. The X interior looks similar if not identical to the Fronty photos I've seen thus far.

Does the rear fender well, the way it is squared off along with the angle of it resemble the Avalanche to anyone else? Or is it just me?

At 3.5 liters this engine makes 285HP in the Z. At 4.0 liters It wouldn't be very hard for the X to be hovering in the 275+ range with torque numbers to match. It probably wouldn't be too hard to squeeze out 300HP.

I really hope Nissan just lets the engines do their thing instead of "de-tuning" the X's output to increase the divide between the X and the Pathfinder.

I hope they see the benefits of having an affordable high horsepower vehicle without all the luxurious frills. (See WRX/WRX STi.)
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
A couple of intersting notes. The X interior looks similar if not identical to the Fronty photos I've seen thus far.

Does the rear fender well, the way it is squared off along with the angle of it resemble the Avalanche to anyone else? Or is it just me?

At 3.5 liters this engine makes 285HP in the Z. At 4.0 liters It wouldn't be very hard for the X to be hovering in the 275+ range with torque numbers to match. It probably wouldn't be too hard to squeeze out 300HP.

I really hope Nissan just lets the engines do their thing instead of "de-tuning" the X's output to increase the divide between the X and the Pathfinder.

I hope they see the benefits of having an affordable high horsepower vehicle without all the luxurious frills. (See WRX/WRX STi.)
Remember that the 350Z isn't tuned for offroading and towing either. With trucks it's all about torque so 250 HP will be more than enough; especially with 270+ ft. lbs. of torque. HP numbers are only good for advertising, where Americans think that's all that matters. I'll take torque over HP any day of the week!
Posted by: babyX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:10 PM

I like it. A little more square, looks a little too much like a Frontier in places, but overall, it's not bad. And it's no Jeep Liberty.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by babyX:
I like it. A little more square, looks a little too much like a Frontier in places, but overall, it's not bad. And it's no Jeep Liberty.
What ever happened to car-line recognition? They're supposed to look similar.
Posted by: XSAL

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by airbutchie:
Quote:
Originally posted by superjens:
[b]Coolest idea ever:

I hope they have a locking feature to it...

- Air B[/b]
Did anyone see if it's easy to somehow remove the basket & deflactor....when you have to clean the crap behind the deflactor? [Freak]
Posted by: Ruger1022

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:21 PM

Wow, this morning there were like 5 posts to this thread, I hadn't seen any pics yet, so I just waited. Now... Damn!

As for my thoughts, I think I like it. I know I'm rare in the automotive world in that I care more about the mechanical specs than the apperance, but hey, thats what years of being a mechanic does to you. I'll withold final judgement until I see some hard specs. But overall, I'm glad they didn't ugly it up like the Titan...
MV
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:21 PM

Chuck, you're right about torque and the usability of power throughout the powerband but it seems that we are in the midst of a HP war and with Toyota on deck to unleash a 300hp Tacoma , you just know that Nissan will fight for bragging rights.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 05:43 PM

Ruger1022, what do you think of the electronically controlled transfer case?
Posted by: spalind

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 06:24 PM

I have to say that it seems pretty damn cool to me...will probly be even MORE reliable and well put together since it share a common platform with so many other of the Nissan trucks...and...the Titan/Armada/Fronty will all have been on the road for up to a year before the '05 X comes out...so hopefully if there are any bugs they can get worked out with them!! All that being said I AM tempted to trade in my '00 for an '05(damn my X sounds OLD now!!!) but I think I will just try to take good care of my current best friend and it will soon be a "classic" in the truck world....Now how many years old does your truck need to be before it qualifies for an "antique" license plate???
Posted by: superjens

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 06:29 PM

Quote:
Now how many years old does your truck need to be before it qualifies for an "antique" license plate???
20. By then we'll have flying cars rite??
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:01 PM

Overall, I like it. I'm glad they didn't go too radical. To me, body lines say "Xterra" at first glance. I'd like to see a rear mounted spare come back. Not crazy about the fenders/wheel openings. Looks a little too "Avalanche or 4Runner" for my taste. Like everyone else, can't wait to see what the new engine's like. And please keep it affordable!!!
Posted by: blizzard

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:34 PM

First impressions say "Grand Cherokee" to me,
I like all the new features, can't say I like "bigger" though.Probably heavier too.
Posted by: gmaxis

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 07:45 PM

The Xterra grows up! Bigger, better, more powerful! I believe the increase in price is expected which would target a higher income bracket class and die-hard Nissan enthusiasts. Overall, Nissan did a good job re-inventing the Xterra from what I read and saw from pictures. I'm sold just from the engine alone! And did someone mention, No Torsion Bars? If I ever trade in my '01, I also hope the roof rack have a heavier load capacity!

2005 Xterra: Everything I need, but not enough to give up my 2001 X! [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:09 PM

My 2 cents,

After seeing the new Frontier, this is kinda how I thought it would look. It's a freash look no doubt, I dont really care for where the gas filler is. Also I think that it's a little big, reminds me of the Armada, sad part is now all the Nissan Trucks, wil look very simalir.
Posted by: ClaptoVaughn

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XSAL:
Quote:
Originally posted by airbutchie:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by superjens:
[b]Coolest idea ever:

I hope they have a locking feature to it...

- Air B[/b]
Did anyone see if it's easy to somehow remove the basket & deflactor....when you have to clean the crap behind the deflactor? [Freak] [/b]
There appear to be screws there, right on the sides of the basket, beside the rack bars.

I guess the sun-roof problem is still there huh smile .
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 08:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ClaptoVaughn:
I guess the sun-roof problem is still there huh smile .
Nope, no sunroof option anymore.

No sunroof = no problem

Though I do enjoy mine in the summer.
Posted by: BigE515

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Quote:
Originally posted by ClaptoVaughn:
[b]I guess the sun-roof problem is still there huh smile .
Nope, no sunroof option anymore.

No sunroof = no problem

Though I do enjoy mine in the summer.[/b]
Looks like Sean's Clear Deflector Sales will be going out of business!! Thats what you get Yankee fan scum!! [LOL]
Posted by: Street X

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:30 PM

First impression. The front end looked pretty similiar to the Ford Explorer.
Posted by: Yzerman

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:32 PM

Anyone know if the interior bike rack still works or in fact even the Raingler interior nets? [Freak]
Posted by: sandmanX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:42 PM

I don't like it. It's morphing into every other SUV out there.
Posted by: Yzerman

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Quote:
Originally posted by ClaptoVaughn:
[b]I guess the sun-roof problem is still there huh smile .
Nope, no sunroof option anymore.

No sunroof = no problem

Though I do enjoy mine in the summer.[/b]
I kinda hate that it doesn't have a sun-roof option. It may seem pretty worthless to most people, but here in AZ it is nice to leave it open during the day to let the heat out. Wonder if someone could put an aftermark one in (without the basket in of course). [Geek]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 09:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Yzerman:
Wonder if someone could put an aftermark one in (without the basket in of course). [Geek]
Dig in.

Posted by: Yzerman

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Quote:
Originally posted by Yzerman:
[b] Wonder if someone could put an aftermark one in (without the basket in of course). [Geek]
Dig in.

[/b]
laugh now that is funny...
Posted by: Ruger1022

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/04/04 10:16 PM

Hmmm...

The electronic transfer case. Well I'd really like to see exactly what they went with. When GM first started with the push-button type, it was really just the same transfercase as before, only where the linkage used to hook up there was an electric stepper motor. I like the same t-case idea, and the motor does have the advantage of being direct mounted ie; no linkage to get knocked/popped of in extreme 4X4 conditions. Admittedly at first I was skeptical of the reliabilty, but the great thing was, the shifter shaft stuck right thru the motor... no matter what happened to the motor, you could always put a wrench on the shaft, and shift into whatever you needed. I liked that feature, but I doubt we'll see it like that anymore. Still I worried, but as the years went by, I noticed that I worked on a lot more 4X4's with linkage/shifter problems than I ever did electrical ones... So I guess I'm ok with it.

Now for our beloved X, what I don't want to see is some air or fluid shifted unit controlled via solenoid valves (or heaven forbid huge electro-magnetic clutches...). Not just yet anyway. I know they work ok in the auto trans but I'm still just a little skeptical.

Heck, I guess we can live with just about everything. The new X has no throttle cable, just electronics, and if you can trust it to run the throttle, why not the t-case too?
MV
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 02:12 AM

I for myself, don't really like it. It sure looks good, but aside from the X typical bump on the top, it's nothing short of a pathy. It lost most of it's uniqueness and bad boy looks. I think the round headlights served it a lot better. And I'm not sure that off raod talking, bigger is really better. I must admit that everything but the looks makes me jalous tought! But I'd still keep my 03 X over this one... and i'm not even thinking about the pricetag!

For the looks: BIG [ThumbsDown]
For the new features: [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Matt Peckham

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 03:49 AM

I think it's a swell evolution of our rugged, quick to market, little ute.

I like the interior door handles, the frontier wheelflare inspired rivety things on the dash instrument panel, but I don't particularly like the wheel.

The new roofrack looks really sweet.

I like the rear step thing to get to the roof, because it's really hard to balance on the tire without the parking brake on when you are trying to get a bike on your roofrack.

I'm a big fan of the new grille. There, I said it. Might not lend itself to aftermarket ARBs, but I think it is very slick without using any chrome.

The bigger fender flares, sweet.

The rear hump, good to see it stayed, along with the goofy rear window.

The spare seems to be sitting up higher, cool.

Now is this thing going to have a third row of seats? EVERYONE else does, personally, I hope not.

bigger tires, cool, more intimidating.

all in all, I likey, except maybe the headlights. Too generic.

I like the interior and exterior door handles too.

This is what happens when you have a little time to design your vehicle. I think they did a good job incorporating our requests.

Pull E Brake.
Bigger more powerful engine
lose the gay gauges
allowing bigger wheels
better front suspension
better rear diff (well, we didn't really ask for that one)

I think this will be an even better performer off road, despite the non manual transfer case. That they just made easier for the majority of people who have problems with a manual T case that they probably use once every year or so.
Posted by: Saline

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 06:41 AM

I like it. I told the wife about it and she will probably get one eventually. (I'll keep hers)

It needs a REAR LOCKER. Seriously, Toyota has been doing it for years in the TRD, do it!

Price , better be below 30k loaded.

Good job on keeping solid rear end on it.

I like the Basket.

I DON'T like the electric shift crap, like IAN said, "Never trust a button to do the job of a lever."
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 06:56 AM



If it looked more like this I might have been interested.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 07:00 AM

Yesterday I loved it...today, I don't know. I'm going to have to agree with the last post. I dig the old front end.

I just picture many more soccer moms driving this and the rest of us keeping ours. Everyone I've showed it too loves it but that's a bad thing because that means it looks like all the other yuppie crap that everyone likes.

I don't like it, sucks. Oh well, to each his own.
Posted by: Walt

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 07:06 AM

My gut says the same thing about the electric transfer case, but my real experience with my Xterras says for me the electric is better:

* Shift on the fly up to 55

* Auto mode- which is great in patchy ice/ snow, which is the only way we seem to get it here. Any time in these conditions I wanted to switch from 2h to 4h, I couldn't because I was going over 25.

Off road, I think a lever and manual hubs reigns supreme, but for combined use, I'm willing to go w/ the electric. It has been on the Pathy and Armada for a while now, and I have yet to hear a complaint.

Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the '05. It's only a fraction longer, and the overhangs are shorter, so approach/ departure should improve.

I just hope we get the locker option, and a clutch start cancel for the manuals.
Posted by: bpdA

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 07:29 AM

Get rid of those horrible rear bumper steps on the side and I'm sold!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 07:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Walt:
My gut says the same thing about the electric transfer case, but my real experience with my Xterras says for me the electric is better:

* Auto mode- which is great in patchy ice/ snow, which is the only way we seem to get it here. Any time in these conditions I wanted to switch from 2h to 4h, I couldn't because I was going over 25.
It's a part-time system, there is no auto mode.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 08:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bpdA:
Get rid of those horrible rear bumper steps on the side and I'm sold!
That's actually one of the things I *DO* like about it.

...seriously considering my own 'side-step' mod.....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 08:49 AM

Ill buy this once i turn 40 and need a family car because thats what it has become. I would never think of taking this off-roading.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:37 AM

All I can say is I had a blast yesterday. It was very cool seeing the truck in person.

A couple of us pressed one of the Nissan guys about the possiblity of getting a factory locker for at least the rear (pointing out that the Titan has it as part of the towing package) and all we got was "there is still alot that hasn't been decided".

They stressed that the '05 won't be out until MAY of '05, that this was the only drivable '05 X in existance.

I think it bodes well that they have an actual "offroad" model slated for production. It wouldn't suprise me if we saw upgraded skids, a locker and other offroad related goodies offered.

Or a different take on the interior. Don't know if anyone noticed the rear is not carpeted (!!) finally! They were also asking about the rest of the truck - as far as finishing materials. We may get a factory ruggedized X for offroarding (no carpet, water resistant seats, etc.) They seemed genually interested in our feedback and we gave it ("I would love to be able to hose out the interior!") I can't wait to see what they are going to offer with the offroad model. They seemed to get that there are a sizeable number of us that like to take these things offroad. They stressed the larger fenders for larger tires, how there wasn't anything hanging down underneath (indeed, it's very flat underneath - should be easy to skid). As others have pointed out, they seem to have really been listening to everyone's favorite issues over the last 5 years and tried to address them.

As for price, I personally (as well as several others) stressed that one of the key reasons for the X's success was price. We gave examples. I think Nissan understands that price is one of their large selling points and I wouldn't expect too much movement in that area, or as others have pointed out people will simply go elsewhere.

All in all it was a great time. Got some good free stuff, got to see the new X and go to NYC for the first time. Good stuff....
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:38 AM

And as for the badges :rolleyes:

They can be removed easily enough. I did give them a little crap about how with every generation they seem to be getting bigger :p

Note the keylocks are now integrated with the handles...
Posted by: mxmuday

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:41 AM

I like the new model. Some nice, new features plus I think Nissan did a good job maintaining the unique styling characteristics that make an Xterra stand out visually (hatch bulge, roof drop for the stadium seating, roof rack, etc.) to maintain its identity. I think they did a lot better at this than Toyota did with the 4Runner and it could have always been much, much worse. Think of the poor Chevy Nova fans that saw their beloved muscle car evolve into a pseudo-Yugo. That was pretty funny.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:50 AM

Did he really just say MAY of '05????!!!!

Is that really going to happen?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:52 AM

It's still the same truck! I dunno, when I think of the 5 year, all out redesign, I want something that looks new. To me, that just looks like an evolution like the '02 was to the '00/01. I realize the engine, etc, make for a substantial change, but whatever.

Honestly I'm glad it's not that different. I just bought my '00 two weeks ago. Now I don't have to feel so annoyed that the "newer, better looking one" is out. It doesn't look very different to me.

And I also prefer the round headlights.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:59 AM

I wonder how many of the items (rear bumper step, lockable basket, etc.) are going to be options!

Also I wonder how long it will take for the basket cover to start rattling.

Not totally impressed except for the engine upgrade.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ruger1022:
The electronic transfer case. Well I'd really like to see exactly what they went with.
Again, I'm going to assume it's the same new TX15 unit used in the Titan w/ 5.6:1 low range and which does NOT offer an AWD mode. I'll have to get my head under a Titan today to be sure.

Brent
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:07 AM

For those of you complaining that the new design verges on mediocrity-

Think of it this way: Nissan COULD have gone the other direction with it. They could have tried to create the all-in-one outdoorsy vehicle that monstrocity called Aztec was supposed to be. Instead, they have given you an updated design that follows the rest of the current Nissan line, without losing the X's original heritage. Not only that, but they have improved the platform in just about every aspect of performance. There will always be people who like/dislike any body design, not matter how hard a manufacturer tries. But by improving the platform across the board, Nissan has set itself up for a big success. (As long as the price stays low)
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
Did he really just say MAY of '05????!!!
They were quite emphatic that this was a PRE production unit, and that alot was still up in the air. The '05 X is still a ways off.

I still want one smile

As for the rear locker, this (combined with the smirk and a "there is still more to come" from the Nissan guys) is heartening:

From this page under Drive Configuration Available advanced off-road traction capabilities.

Talk about vauge but in a potentially good way laugh

EDIT: Oh, to address another concern, the stadium seating is still there. I think the bump in the roof is reduced because the front of the truck got raised - they cited all around headroom improvements, and said that the back seats have gained 3" of space - that's quite a bit! Also, the new roof rack is much more integrated than before and that could be contributing to a bit of an optical illusion.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:26 AM

Yeah, they also touted the double deck glove compartment - seams they really listend when we complained of lack of storage (the storage in the back sounds like it is going to be at least 7" deep - no more rubbermaid contairs full of tools!)
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:26 AM

I don't recall May 05 being mentioned, just early 05. May is really far too late to introduce a vehicle as a 2005.

The bumper step won't be an option, if it makes it to production it will be on all of 'em.

Prices should start in the low 20's, and I wouldn't be surprised if they go a bit over $30K for a fully-equipped model. Remember, there's no engine choice available to let you really bargain-basement the spec, cheapest you can get is a bare-bones 4x2, but it will still have the 250+ hp 4.0 V6 and a 6-speed manual, so you're getting a lot for the money. Add in optional crap like the VDC/traction-control, sunroof, leather, etc. and even today you can MSRP a 2004 SE/SC at $31K.
I'd say a decently-equipped 4x4 manual will probably come in around $24-26K.
Also consider that a price increase is certainly justifiable considering that there are so many improvements, most we've all been wanting to see: Engine/transmission of course, rear discs, no more t-bars, the old failure-prone steering is gone (is R&P better, we'll see), significant interior storage, 60/40 split rear seat that doesn't require the cushions to be removed to fold, center shoulder belt in back, more room for larger tires, no more snag-prone rear spring perches, no more lame parking brake etc. Sure there are a couple of steps back with the electronic t-case and the lack of selectable 4x4 hubs, but the former is just fine and the latter, while knocking the mileage down a tad, is still OK.

Just remember the prices being discussed are PURE SPECULATION and nobody knows what the base or ceiling will be and Nissan didn't offer any ranges at the preview either.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
I don't recall May 05 being mentioned, just early 05. May is really far too late to introduce a vehicle as a 2005.
OK, then it's definitly March. He threw out the projected release date, and I didn't write it down (D'oh!) but it started with an M. He stressed a couple of times that it was going to be a late release. He also commented that several in the company thought they (the Xterra marketing guys) were insane for showing the new X this "early" in the game.

I think they are going to have another hot seller on their hands - as you said, there is alot to like about this new truck.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:34 AM

Factory clutch bypass for the manual transmission.

See http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/colour/14_2005_xterra.jpg

Lower left. If it stays smile

EDITED Again: D'oh - it is an oil pressure guage - need to get glasses.
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by INXS:
THEORY ON NEW X SALES:

Here is my theory and I would be curious to your reaction:

X owners are very loyal and love their vehicles, and are not as likely to trade in for a new model.........................

Thus, new vehicle sales are dependent on continually recruiting new owners--moreso than other vehicle types...

Just my observation.
While attracting new owners to a particular brand is essential to an automakers success, brand loyalty is an absolute priority. Just as you continued to replace your Camry three times, Nissan would like to see their customer base "graduate" from a Sentra to an Altima to a Maxima to an Armada. Or in this case from their entry level SUV , the X , to a Pathfinder to an Armada or Titan. That is the nature of the business.

If you build it, they will come.

Just ask any Chevy or Ford guy about brand loyalty. Ask any Toyota owner what is the most reliable car on the road or an Accord owner about to trade it in on an Acura how many Hondas they have owned since their first Civic couple.

The X was marketed as an entry level SUV. It got a number of people who hadn't previously considered one into an SUV and was a first new vehicle or first truck for many of the owners. Don't let the overwhelming enthusiasm of the people on this board for their vehicles fool you.

The people here, the enthusiast, represent just a portion of the actual X owners. There are a lot of people out there that drive their vehicle for the 4-5 year term of their loan and then trade it in and start over. The 1st generation of the X is just coming up on being 5 years old now. You are going to see a lot more of them being paid off as they start hitting that 100mile+ mark on the odometer.

A 100 thousand mile truck is a 100 thousand mile truck. Like it or not, things start going wrong as you start getting up in miles. So people are either going to keep their 1st gen. X as a weekend vehicle or a play toy or they are going to sell them and buy something else before they have to start paying for major repairs.

The enthusiast that is truly attatched to his vehicle might just drive it into the ground and replace the engine. We might start seeing the off-roaders among us shed the X of it's interior trim as they start installing roll cages and fuel cells.

But for the most part, people will sell them or trade them in and get something else. Some may have added members of the family and a nicer income since their X purchase and might be stepping up to the Armada or choose that since they are a little older now they would prefer the luxury features of a Pathfinder or it's Infinity sibling.

But regardless, there will be a great number of people that find themselves drawn to a unique vehicle with an interesting roofline and a bulge on the rear hatch and feel a wonderfull femiliarity. They will get behind the wheel and it will feel comfortable, like home. Then they will take that test drive and it will seem solid and firm, crisp yet powerfull. And they will fall in love all over again.

Oh yes. Nissan built it and they will come. laugh

Quote:
Originally posted by munckee:
It's still the same truck! I dunno, when I think of the 5 year, all out redesign, I want something that looks new. To me, that just looks like an evolution like the '02 was to the '00/01. I realize the engine, etc, make for a substantial change, but whatever......

It doesn't look very different to me.

Think Porche 911. Think Corvette. Think Miata. In the world of cars they are all very distinct vehicles with a huge enthusiast following. The key for manufacturers is to preserve the characteristics that make the vehicle unique to the marketplace while updating the technology, performance and design.

This X is a complete redesign. It's on a new, more rigid platform, new transmission, transfer case and engine. They did all this while preserving the look that makes the X unique. The roofline, the rear end, and the features that distinctly identifiy the X are still there while having the platform, engine and the driveline that we'd all covet.

All this while still looking like an Xterra on the outside.
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:00 AM

I'm curious on what Brent said about the central shoulder harness seatbelt for the rear. I wonder how this would mount and how would you get it out of the way when lowering the seats. Any idea of when we might see pics of the interior other than the dashboard.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by buffalo:
I'm curious on what Brent said about the central shoulder harness seatbelt for the rear. I wonder how this would mount and how would you get it out of the way when lowering the seats. Any idea of when we might see pics of the interior other than the dashboard.
Probably built into the seat...Look at the new Expeditions for an example.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:35 AM



Another photoshop job (slightly better this time) ... moved the rear badges a little and fixed the front end.

If THIS was the end result, I'd trade mine in in a heartbeat.

ON ANOTHER 2WD. OOH YEAH EAT THAT (not really)

edit - Notice also that I kept the headlights square. It's not the shape that really makes the 02-04 look better, it's the framing. Looks less 1980's Toyota-ish. The new Nissan front-end looks too much like it was designed by Ford.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:41 AM

I just talked to two local Nissan dealerships (VERY large, high volume dealers) and they both said they expect their first shipments in September. Hopefully they're not giving me car dealer run-around.
Posted by: mineralblue

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:44 AM

I love the 2005 X.

I love the way they updated the X, and yet kept the classic Xterra look so that my Xterra doesnt look obsolete.

I love the 2005 X.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 12:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
I just talked to two local Nissan dealerships (VERY large, high volume dealers) and they both said they expect their first shipments in September. Hopefully they're not giving me car dealer run-around.
I think you are getting the car dealer run around (trying to preserve '04 sales - can't blame them).

They were emphatic on a late launch. Only one drivable '05 X exists right now (and it's in NYC!)

March or May - I don't remember exactly. May sticks in my mind, Brent thinks that is too late - I would agree but they were emphatic on a late launch.

Don't care - I still am really jazzed about it. I waited a year for my first one - if I decided to trade up I can wait a year again smile

EDIT: In looking over the materials I got yesterday, the Xterra is labled as "Xterra Show vehicle (On sale early 2005)" so that would fit more with the March timeframe.
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 12:33 PM


If someone comes out with a replacement front bumper like the one shown here in this Photoshop hack job (it's a ARB Safari), they offer the e-locker and solar yellow, I could be interested in one in a year or two. cool
Posted by: chupasierras

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 01:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Quote:
Originally posted by xterraroy:
[b]i see a jeep liberty in my future.
They're pretty [Rainbow] looking, though.[/b]
Seems like people at heep have some plans...

Quote:
- The refreshed Jeep Liberty will more clearly differentiate the Liberty from the Renegade, which so far only is seen in the addition of a light bar on top of the current Renegade. The 2005 Renegade will have large fender flares, skid plates, a heavier duty luggage rack and light bar, headlight and taillight covers, as well as a slightly different front end than the standard Liberty.

source
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 01:32 PM

As usual the dealers don't know jack. March or May, it's not til sometime in 05, we heard it fromm the head of Nissan's truck/SUV division himself for crying out loud...

Seatbelt may be integrated into the seat, or may be like I've seen elsewhere and the reel will be mounted to the roof (a-la the CR-V).

Brent
Posted by: XterrAZ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 01:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
I just talked to two local Nissan dealerships (VERY large, high volume dealers) and they both said they expect their first shipments in September. Hopefully they're not giving me car dealer run-around.
Probably not jacking you around, I talked to a buddy at Peoria Nissan here in AZ and they said between Sept and December. Pretty hard to tell when Nissan tells them "Fall 04". My guess is they're "assuming" September is when the first ones will roll out.

My opinion of the '05 (since everyone is giving their's) is where do I sign up for one? I like it very much, except for the location of the rear badge, and will more than likely trade my 2000 in for the 240 ponies. The lack of power along with the mileage have been my only complaints of the Xterra so with the engine change I'm thinking of moving up to the '05 probably mid year when the prices drop a little from the new release. I'm expecting the new ones to run 30K plus, I doubt that it will continue to be a realitively cheap SUV but only time will tell on that aspect of the vehicle.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 01:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
As usual the dealers don't know jack. March or May, it's not til sometime in 05, we heard it fromm the head of Nissan's truck/SUV division himself for crying out loud...
I don't want to believe you, and you can't make me.

*Fingers in ears*
la-la-la-la-la-la

laugh
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 02:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XterrAZ:
Pretty hard to tell when Nissan tells them "Fall 04".
Well, Nissan is now telling everyone early '05.

Here, third to last paragraph.

Quote:
It goes on sale at Nissan dealers nationwide in early 2005.
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 02:26 PM

I wonder if the 05 will come with the limited edition defective window regulators. :rolleyes:
Posted by: Stonecoldchavez

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 02:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nickm:
I just talked to two local Nissan dealerships (VERY large, high volume dealers) and they both said they expect their first shipments in September. Hopefully they're not giving me car dealer run-around.
They might be. The marketing guys said something like 10 months from now. Like next March '05.

Stone
Posted by: silverxglider

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 04:54 PM

I was sure that I would drive my current X into the ground. Now I'm not so sure at all.

Thank you, Nissan, for a 6 speed tranny and new engine. Plus other features too numerous to mention. If the price is right, I might well consider trading up...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 06:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:


Another photoshop job (slightly better this time) ... moved the rear badges a little and fixed the front end.

If THIS was the end result, I'd trade mine in in a heartbeat.

ON ANOTHER 2WD. OOH YEAH EAT THAT (not really)

edit - Notice also that I kept the headlights square. It's not the shape that really makes the 02-04 look better, it's the framing. Looks less 1980's Toyota-ish. The new Nissan front-end looks too much like it was designed by Ford.
I definately like your rendition better than what they're planning.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 06:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XMountaineer:
I definately like your rendition better than what they're planning.
Don't hold your breath on the front grill. They mentioned multiple times that it was "brand unifying".

They seemed more up in the air on the rear badges. Since everyone I heard give commentary hated the size and placement, I can only hope they will clean things up a bit. If not, I would just take 'em off smile
Posted by: Rickster43

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 06:48 PM

I really dig the upgrade lockable Gear Basket...prety cool idea...
Posted by: Takeabreath

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 08:33 PM

[img]http://www.engine-power.com/jeep/jeep_rescue_concept_6.html[/img]


[img]http://www.engine-power.com/jeep/jeep_rescue_concept_7.html[/img]



http://www.engine-power.com/jeep/jeep_rescue_concept_6.html
http://http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/09_2005_xterra.jpg

http://www.engine-power.com/jeep/jeep_rescue_concept_7.html
http://http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/05_2005_xterra.jpg

Do you think Jeep Rescue's rear passenger doors' windows match Xterra's, as does the doors not reaching top of roofline, and the rear cargo cap have a similar shape? I think we have a winner.

05 Xterra = Nissan's version of a midsize Rescue?
Posted by: Takeabreath

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 08:57 PM

Someone fix my shit. Trying to put the pics side by side. first two side by side, second two side by side...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:15 PM

Come on guys whats wrong with the round headlights.....im starting to regret getting my "02" X....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 09:18 PM

The damn front end of those new X's look like damn ford Explorer sports...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:31 PM

Hey, I am new here. Thinking of getting an 04 Xterra and now the 05 came along... what a decision.

Did anyone noticed in the interiour picture of the gauge cluster, that there seems to be more than the standard (Tach, Speedo, Fuel and Temp?)

It would be nice if they thorw in the auxillary guages like oil pressure/battery voltage and such.
Posted by: KJ_dragon

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by snowstorm:


It would be nice if they thorw in the auxillary guages like oil pressure/battery voltage and such.
It's there - look closer!
Posted by: Origami Gangsta

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 10:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Takeabreath:
Someone fix my shit. Trying to put the pics side by side. first two side by side, second two side by side...
Lazy ass.. wink





On that note, I can see a FEW things that look similar, but nothing that screams rip off. Not even close. The rear windows looks very much the same as they do on the old Xterra's. They're DOES seem to be more room to get out of the back doors though, so no more breaking your leg trying to get out!

I agree though, looks like another WINNAR for Nissan, like I said before. There are some things I dislike (grille, badges, steering wheel), but overall I love it. I don't get why people are bitching about the gas tank. I like it better on the driver's side! Probably cause I can't park for shit. [Freak]
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:08 PM

Yep, the window shape came right from the current model. Only difference (and I just noticed this!) is that the angle at the lower rear of the front side window is missing. The current X has that angle on front and rear windows. So in a way they're actually moving away from the Heep.

Here are my fixes for the rear badging. FOr some reason I think if it has to be there, the Nissan badge should be on the hump. However, mine would look like the second picture! laugh



Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by snowstorm:
It would be nice if they thorw in the auxillary guages like oil pressure/battery voltage and such.
Find the 05 Frontier pix @ nissannews.com, there's a nice shot of the dash all lit up etc. and shows what we can expect.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/04/04 11:46 PM

Thought I'd throw this in. Just a side comparison between 2000 and 2005. Overall it's definately not THAT different, but the changes are clear. Notice the roof hump is lower, the back side window isn't as tall, and the most significant thing is the location of the front wheels. WOuldn't have to twist my left foot in unnatural ways anymore to push the clutch in!



Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 12:20 AM

Although this is too early to say, but I hope they'll make the 6th gear a really tall overdrive (like the .50 ratio of the f-bodies). The ratio should be atleast 30mph / 1000 rpm. Our current cruising rpm is way too high to achieve good mileage.

I would also hope that Nissan has upgraded the load capacity. I have heard that the current gen is officially rated at only 850 lbs, (although it could easily handle more), which is a bit low for a truck with a frame.

And as others have noted, the ground clearance seems a bit low. The ABSOLUTE LOWEST POINT might be higher, giving it a higer gc rating, but the overall clearance has gone down, just like many other new SUVs (Durango for example).
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 04:01 AM

Well it looks like the Xterra, Frontier, and Pathfinder share the same dash and such. Pathy is slightly different.

X


Frontier


Pathy
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 04:03 AM

OK all 3 have the same glove box... but only the Pathy is lockable?!
Posted by: Saline

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 05:46 AM

Again..., all you photoshop nerds laugh Can someone lift one with photoshop?! %$#%$#
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 07:13 AM

The 6-speed is based on the tranny behind the 350Z. Obviously the ratios will likely be revised for truck/SUV use, but for reference the Z has a .794:1 6th and a 1:1 5th.
(And as a side note, I just noticed while looking that up that the Z driveshaft is carbon-fiber reinforced plastic [Freak] )

One thing that has me quite worried is that the Z tranny is NOTORIOUS for having 3rd gear go out (pretty sure it's 3rd). I've read of one that had the first tranny die at 3000 miles and its replacement die at 12,000, and a Nissan tech I know tells me of one that has been through FOUR transmissions and the 5th one is acting up and he's seen many others in the shop with the same problem. Nissan better get this solved before the Frontier goes into production.

Never had a locking glove box and never really felt a need for it. A convertible could use one, but otherwise the door locks are protection enough for me.

Quote:
Originally posted by evansxterr:
Again..., all you photoshop nerds laugh Can someone lift one with photoshop?! %$#%$#
Hello? wink
http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007774;p=14#000207
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 10:06 AM

Regarding the supposed similarities between the '05 X and the Jeep Rescue:

Prior to the release of the H2, Jeep tried to sue GM for the grill pattern on the H2 because Jeep felt that it was close enough to thier grill design that it infringed on their trademark logo.

In the interrim they have seen the H2's sales go through the roof and they lament their lack of a real full size (read GIANT) SUV.

It was determined that the grill design was not at the time truly representative of the Jeep enough to warrant the lawsuit. (I don't remember every detail but..) I think the H2 had to be manufacturered with one less grill slat. At the same time GM was suing Studebaker (resurected) because their concept XUT vehicle so closely resembled the H2 that they felt that it was a direct copy.

In the end Jeep has taken great pains to present the grill as their trademark logo, hence the new advertising and the highlighting of the front grill on all of their adds.

Studebaker was required to make design changes to the XUT that would define what design features made the H2 a unique vehicle to GM. Eventually that vehicle will see production , probablly with a Ford Superduty engine and driveline.

Jeep, now undertanding what is and is not defined as an H2, has set out to make a full size SUV to go toe to toe with GM. The rescue is going to be a big SUV. If anything it will closely resemble the H2 as much as Jeep knows it can legally get away with while highlighting their trademark front grill all while being able to promote it as a "true" off-road vehicle as Jeep likes to call itself.
Posted by: Xorro

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 11:08 AM

my 2 cents is that the GRILL SUCKS BIG TIME! some of you photo shop pros should black out the silver part and lets see that. the chances of that mod is DIY and greater than them doing the round tube version posted here that IS far better looking.

STUPID DESIGNERS!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 11:37 AM

A quick tweak and heres the 2005 without the generic Nissan SUV grille bars. In my opinion it is much better. That, and replacing the badges to their original 2000-2004 X positions. [ThumbsUp]

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 11:41 AM

Well apparently that didnt work. Lets try it again.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 11:51 AM

And another view.

Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 12:55 PM

Whoa, THAT looks good.

Agree the Nissan version has a sucky grill. Looks like a baby Armada or Titan.

The auto has steptronic now?! [Freak]
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 01:47 PM

No "steptronic" there, if you look at the hi-res of that pic, it's just that they have the 2 and 1 doglegged at the end of the lever stroke:
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nis...er_Crew_Cab.jpg
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 01:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RJ:
Whoa, THAT looks good.

Agree the Nissan version has a sucky grill. Looks like a baby Armada or Titan.

The auto has steptronic now?! [Freak]
Agreed
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 02:21 PM

The new X looks to be the perfect replacement for my brand new 2004 X... in about 5 years laugh
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 03:50 PM

NY auto show debut -



Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 04:45 PM

OK.

I'll have to drive one first, then we'll see. I really like the specs, but I'm having a hard time getting over that butt-ugly grill. Maybe some black rustoleum road-warrior would improve it.

If I don't like it, though...
Posted by: KJ_dragon

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 04:50 PM

Another Article:

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=22930&pg=1
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 05:18 PM

Here's an interesting thought. Stillen makes a CARB and Nissan approved supercharger for the Z that when coupled with their exhaust system puts out a claimed 390HP.

That's using an unmodified Z engine with stock internals that a Nissan dealer will install and Stillen warranties for 3/36.

All of those "what would it take to supercharge my '05 X ? " questions

The answer could be : $5,000 and a trip to your Nissan dealer and you can have a 350+ HP X. eek
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 05:56 PM

Wow that is cool! The drove it in and then "rained" on it to wash it off!
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 06:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by evansxterr:
Can someone lift one with photoshop?


This is about a 3" lift.
Posted by: Todrick

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 11:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
How many people here would be X owners if their nut to own it was $550+ a month. $550 a month is a LOT of change.
Yes it is.... thats why i sold mine... it was just too much change.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 11:17 PM

Sorry to say, but that lifted-X photoshop fake is horrible. [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: Xorro

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/04/04 11:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by gdXterraluvr:
And another view.

actually what i had in mind was the stock grill remains completely but it is blacked out, like if you painted it out. can you do a pic of that?
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 06:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
NY auto show debut
I see they added a little mud to the tires wink
Posted by: Saline

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 08:33 AM

I guess I wanted to see it lifted, with clearance in the wheelwells. Not all stuffed like that. Pickey ,pickey! laugh
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 11:02 AM

One can of black spray paint and.........

Posted by: xterrabull

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 11:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
One can of black spray paint and.........
Looks good! Now, replace the lower portion with an ARB... wink
I think that'd look sharp....
Posted by: Xorro

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 12:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
One can of black spray paint and.........

definitely better looking than stock, but it's kinda like putting lipstick on a pig. in the end, it's still a pig! eek
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 02:06 PM

^^ You've been dating the wrong pigs, then. :p

I tried that first but didn't like the way it looked as much as the 02+ style bar-across-the-grille look. Still better than stock, though. Too much bling.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 02:10 PM

I can't believe the biggest gripe is the grill :rolleyes:

Then again, I suppose that is a good thing - shows just how much they did get right.

Personally I am leaning really strong towards selling my current X and trading up - I was quite impressed by what I saw, and the specs are even better - I think Nissan will have a home run. I'm going to gamble that they are going to keep the prices comparable (they have to). Could be a long 9 month wait smile
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 03:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by evansxterr:
I guess I wanted to see it lifted, with clearance in the wheelwells. Not all stuffed like that. Pickey ,pickey! laugh
You miss this the first time, AND when I linked to it on the last page?
http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007774;p=14#000207
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 03:59 PM

^^ You're out of your element, Donny.

And yeah, the grill is a gripe, but it's a pretty big gripe.. styling was one of the biggest draws of the Xterra for most people, and they've taken the piss on that.

I've just about decided to make the trade in 06 or 07, but I'm going to make the dealership bodyshop paint the grill or no deal.

I want to wait for some tried-and-true mods to come out first, since I'll be swallowing my pride and throwing away money on the 4x4. frown
Posted by: panhandleX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 05:04 PM

If I could just have the engine and new front suspension in my 02 I would be a very happy camper. I just prefer the original lines vs the new ones.
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 05:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by panhandleX:
If I could just have the engine and new front suspension in my 02 I would be a very happy camper. I just prefer the original lines vs the new ones.
I feel the same way. Nissan really screwed up. I was getting ready to trade my 02 in for a 05, but after seeing it I just about puked.. [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 05:49 PM

We must be looking at different Xterras or something...

I think the ‘05 Xterra is a great leap forward. The styling kept everything we love about the current Xterra (i.e. roof-rack, bulges, stadium rear seats, rear-window design, off-road capability) and improved on engine power/torque, transmission, suspension design, and upgrade-ability (notice all the xtra switch blanks in the center console for lighting, compressors, and locker goodies).

Change is good. You gotta’ admit, the old Xterra design (especially the ‘00-‘01) was looking dated among its competitors. Nissan, keep it up. It looks like you've got another success on your hands!
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 05:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by altima:
I feel the same way. Nissan really screwed up. I was getting ready to trade my 02 in for a 05, but after seeing it I just about puked.. [ThumbsDown]
You really might want to see it in person first before writing it off :rolleyes:

Really, it isn't that different. I'm not crazy about the rear steps, but they certainly aren't a deal breaker. And I'm not thrilled with the chrome front grill either, but it's not a deal breaker - It still looks like an X. the new roof rack is a definite improvement up front. Personally the new powertrain more than makes up for the slight changes on the outside (and we knew there would be some changes, it is after all a total redesign due to the guts literally changing out). I was just thrilled it still looks like an X - look what Ford did with the Taurus, or Honda did with the CRX (can we say Del Sol tanked sales?).

Besides, the grill should get covered with an aftermarket bumper, right? [Wave]

I would highly doubt that the rear badges are going to stay as they are. Hopefully they will change for the better - they wouldn't even let us see inside so this truck is not final by any means (but the grill is - Nissan is quite clear they consider it "brand unifying"). Then again, Nissan does read these boards, and I bet they are reading this thread with much intrest - enough to change the front due to some comments on a message board? I guess we'll see...
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 05:57 PM

BTW, nissanusa.com has the '05 Xterra up on their website now.

Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 06:02 PM

I actually prefer the Nissan corporate grill; so much so that I almost put one from a Frontier onto my Xterra when I replaced the grill. That said, it's the pattern I like and I think on the '05 it's a little bigger than it needs to be. The only thing up front that really turns me off though is the '02 - '04 style bumper, but that's easy enough to get rid of. laugh

Otherwise, I'm in love and hope to somehow manage to have one! laugh laugh
Posted by: mineralblue

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 06:12 PM

The whole thing about brand unity with the common grilles across the model lines... from the Armada to the Xterra to the Frontier... I think it is a good idea.

They're trying to establish a brand identity... that when you see the headlamps and the grille, you think of Nissan... kinda like the way BMW, Mercedes, and Jeep have long established in their models, and how other automakers are trying to move toward as well (Dodge, Chrysler, Hummer, to name a few)

I like the Xterra... I like the new and the old... I like the way the new maintains the old feel, and yet updates it...
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 06:16 PM

Man, it looks REALLY bad in silver.

edit:



BLACK GRILL! I'M SOLD. OK, I have no gripes now. I will be getting an '06 or '07, dark grey or granite (depends on what colors) 4x4. Now, let's see if I can NOT tear my 4x2 up in the meantime...
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 06:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:
I will be getting an '06 or '07, dark grey or granite (depends on what colors)
Ok, on colors you would like to see (they were asking) - anyone remember the dark grey metallic that was on either the Frontier or Maxima around 1999/2000?

The base was almost, or was black. The metallic was a silver fleck. It looked totally awesome, a really dark charcol color. I always thought the Xterra would have looked great in that color.

The other color I liked was the original pre-production prototype (1998 San Diego auto show). The color was kind of a cross between Sedona and Trophy Bronze (again, metallic). They never offered it frown
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 06:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DocNo:
Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:
[b]I will be getting an '06 or '07, dark grey or granite (depends on what colors)
Ok, on colors you would like to see (they were asking) - anyone remember the dark grey metallic that was on either the Frontier or Maxima around 1999/2000?[/b]
YES. If they made that I would have to wax it every day because I would nut all over it.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 06:56 PM

You know what it desperatly needs is plastic trim around the fenders, and it's too bad they did away with the plastic piece behind the front wheel. Those that go offroad will get pretty beat up fenders, so they should at least offer some trim to go around there.
Posted by: panhandleX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 07:02 PM

Is the third brake light still low or did it get moved up? I can't quite tell from the pics I've seen.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 07:04 PM

I think they moved it up to the top of the window, which is good for the tire carrier crowd! laugh

That was just a guess based on the shape of the rear window. The bulge is bigger, so it would push the light off to the right side unless they mounted it up over the top of the wiper, but that would be dumb.
Posted by: panhandleX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 07:06 PM

Well, only six months left to pay on mine. Very tempting. Guess, the more I see it the more I like it. Especially in the silver.
Posted by: mineralblue

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 09:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:




BLACK GRILL!
Ooh... that black grille is NICE.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/04/04 09:55 PM

Something about that angle makes it look bad with the larger fenders.
Posted by: mineralblue

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 07:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snoopy:
BTW, nissanusa.com has the '05 Xterra up on their website now.
Lots of nice pics and a flash presentation on that site... [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: blizzard

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 08:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Spirit:
Something about that angle makes it look bad with the larger fenders.
[B][/B]
It just looks bad from any angle..
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 08:49 AM

RE: Rear brake light - if you go here:

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal_lg01.html

The only place it could be is at the top now smile
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 09:05 AM

RE: Factory locker - if you look at this pic

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal_lg02.html

the second button from the right isn't very detailed, but that kinda looks like a drivetrain graphic in the middle with perhaps an on/off graphic on the top and bottom of the switch (rocker style) - factory locker??

The second button from the left is not the rear window defroster - it's still with the AC controls. No idea what it could be.

Funny that on the Nissannews.com site, on the high res version of the picture the buttons are blank

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/colour/13_2005_xterra.jpg

Yet the second from the right has little ridges on it indicating fealers for a rocker switch, that matches the button text from the first picture. They probably photoshopped out the text on the Nissannews picture (bastards!) smile

EDIT: I just noticed in the first pick the key is now in the dash instead of the steering column...
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 09:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by NismoXse02:
On a side note, why in the hell did they still not put the spare on the back? mad
I'd be willing to bet that 98% of all people never touch their spare, that's why. On the back it would get in the way of the rear hatch and people hate that. Hardcore enthusiasts are in the minority.

I'm sure another aftermarket bumper will appear. At least it looks like the rear brake like moved to the top.
Posted by: blizzard

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 09:45 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by OffroadX:
I'd say a decently-equipped 4x4 manual will probably come in around $24-26K.
[B][/B]

Oh come on Brent, I'll bet that decently-equipped 4X4 manual will set you back atleast $30,000.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 09:52 AM

I hate the back end of it why did they have to put all the signs everywhere? its so ugly!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 09:56 AM

30k US for a 4x4 manual? That's pretty steep for the Xterra. One the main reason the Xterra got the props it got was because of its reasonable pricing. At 30K+ it doesn't seem like much of a deal anymore (sort of like the 4Runner V8). I surely hope they don't price it up that high or force bundle option packages such that the final cost gets up there!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 10:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by blizzard:
Oh come on Brent, I'll bet that decently-equipped 4X4 manual will set you back atleast $30,000.
Let me be the first to call ... B.S.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 10:18 AM

My praise/gripes on the interior:

+ Stereo has CD text display and possible MP3 support
+ Passenger airbag lockout
+ TWO dash mounted power outlets
+ Voltage and oil pressure gauges
+ HAND-BRAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ Turn-dial 4WD
+ More cargo space in the back
+ Glove box so big you could hide a baby in it
+ More small item storage (above radio, under center dash cluster, next to shifter)

- Blinged out steering wheel (looks like it'd be too fragile or get scratched/dinged up too easy)
- Short shifter (manual) -- too sports carsy, not very truck-like (I like my 03's big shifter)
- fewer tie-down hooks in the rear cargo area - what will I do with my bungie collection!?!?!
- Rear cargo covered in too much plastic - I can already see my ammo boxes beating the hell out of it

'07 can't come fast enough for me now laugh
Posted by: blizzard

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 10:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by snowstorm:
30k US for a 4x4 manual? That's pretty steep for the Xterra. One the main reason the Xterra got the props it got was because of its reasonable pricing. At 30K+ it doesn't seem like much of a deal anymore (sort of like the 4Runner V8). I surely hope they don't price it up that high or force bundle option packages such that the final cost gets up there!
[B][/B]
Have you seen the price of life lately?
Anytime a "new and improved" model comes out the base price goes up. I can't see them selling for the same price they are now. In a year, reasonable pricing will start at $30,000. I'd be willing to bet on that.
Posted by: NismoXse02

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 10:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DocNo:
I'd be willing to bet that 98% of all people never touch their spare, that's why. On the back it would get in the way of the rear hatch and people hate that. Hardcore enthusiasts are in the minority.

I'm sure another aftermarket bumper will appear. At least it looks like the rear brake like moved to the top.
Ok, then they should at least brought it inside under the rear cargo mat. An offroading vehicle should not have it on the bottom of the vehicle exposed like that. Land Rover got it right... I was sure the "next" Xterra would have done it right. Oh well, like I said... I'm waiting another 5 years for the '10 Xterra. Maybe they'll get it right by then. [Laughing]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 10:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:
[QB]+ TWO dash mounted power outlets
+ HAND-BRAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You mean the bug-eyed version doesn't already have these features? That's pretty sad... :rolleyes:
Posted by: NismoXse02

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:02 AM

BTW, anyone notice the step rails are back (or did someone already say that)?
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:21 AM

Hmm...knew I'd seen funky enormous fenders somewhere before...glad Nissan at least squared off the new X's fenders.



"Hey Tiffany, look over there! The new 2005 Xterra!"

The new X isn't so bad with a blacked out grill, but the flared fenders and tailgate bulge are so big they look like caricatures of the current X. The bulge takes up half the tailgate for crying out loud.

But...more power and some great new features, so all in all, I'll have to reserve judgment till I can see it in person.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:
My praise/gripes on the interior:

- Blinged out steering...
'07 can't come fast enough for me now laugh
- Blinged out steering wheel (looks like it'd be too fragile or get scratched/dinged up too easy)

Looks good to me! laugh My only minor gripe there is that it has the cruise control and probably the stereo controls (SE model?) on it. I don't like controls on the wheel. WOuld rather they do it like the Europeans and put the cruise on a control stalk (because they don't move around on ya there!). And yes, I realize that's where the controls are on mine too. Not preferred, but not a deal breaker. The stereo I can always control the normal way anyway, so the buttons would just be for looks I guess. confused

- Short shifter (manual) -- too sports carsy, not very truck-like (I like my 03's big shifter)

You're kidding, right? You must be the only person on the planet that likes the 16" shaft, huge tent, and long throws. WHen it comes to shifters, size matters, but shorter is better!

- fewer tie-down hooks in the rear cargo area - what will I do with my bungie collection!?!?!

You haven't been paying attention. The Utili-track will allow you to put multiple tie downs on the floor, plus you can move them around. When was the last time yours were right where they needed to be?

- Rear cargo covered in too much plastic - I can already see my ammo boxes beating the hell out of it

Sure beats getting mud and grease in the carpet. Maybe Nissan will offer a carpet mat for you? More than likely though, the utili-track will allow you to mount boxes and such that will hole things from sliding around.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by NismoXse02:
BTW, anyone notice the step rails are back (or did someone already say that)?
They aren't "back," they are just shown on that model.
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:46 AM

If I'm spending $30,000 or more it's gonna be on an Armada. More bang for the buck.
Posted by: NismoXse02

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 02:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
Quote:
Originally posted by NismoXse02:
[b]BTW, anyone notice the step rails are back (or did someone already say that)?
They aren't "back," they are just shown on that model.[/b]
Sorry, poor choice of words. [Uh Oh !] At the beginning of the thread, someone said something about Nissan finally doing away with the step rails. My response... they're back! laugh
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 02:34 PM

I don't know if they would ever do away with the step rails since 99% of the X owners keep them on.
Posted by: NismoXse02

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 02:37 PM

Yeah, you're probably right since it's a unique design feature. BTW, when I saw the '02 picture like the one below, that's what sold me on mine. Now that I've seen the '05 version, it's growing on me. [ThumbsUp]

Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 05:49 PM

AGAIN, YOU CAN CURRENTLY SPEC A 2004 XTERRA AT A $31K MSRP, so don't think it'll be insane that the 05 could run up there fully-trimmed.

Now can this be the last about the freakin' price? It's pure speculation anyway, let's wait until Nissan comes forth with pricing this fall.

:rolleyes:
Brent
Posted by: NismoXse02

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 05:49 PM

Another I just noticed (I'm sure has been mentioned in this monster of a thread)... no side molding? eek I can't tell you have many times that has saved me on my X from dents and scratches.
Posted by: xterrabull

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by NismoXse02:
Another I just noticed (I'm sure has been mentioned in this monster of a thread)... no side molding? eek I can't tell you have many times that has saved me on my X from dents and scratches.
Only in these recent pictures...the earlier pictures in the thread show side moldings; there was even discussion of how low they were & how big they were & how the body is concave at their location while the moldings themselve are convex.
Posted by: ButterBean

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 06:17 PM

What I really like about it is the door seams are in the body and not over hanging onto the roof
Posted by: CocoX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 06:47 PM

I like the new Xterra! I think it looks great. Is the rust standard or optional on the 05? [LOL]
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 06:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
AGAIN, YOU CAN CURRENTLY SPEC A 2004 XTERRA AT A $31K MSRP, so don't think it'll be insane that the 05 could run up there fully-trimmed.

Now can this be the last about the freakin' price? It's pure speculation anyway, let's wait until Nissan comes forth with pricing this fall.

:rolleyes:
Brent
No, it can't be the last because I want to add something! [LOL]

A lot of people aren't realizing something very important. One of the reasons the original Xterra was kept at reasonable prices was because most of the parts were out of the Frontier parts bin. Since Nissan is taking parts sharing a few steps further (Pathfinder, Titan, Armada, Frontier, and Xterra!) this time, their manufacturing costs should still be kept low despite the increase in interior and drivetrain costs.

My point here is that the increases that will be seen will probably have more to do with inflation and overall manufacturing costs than they will with actual increases in "Xterra" specific costs. Make sense? I think it's safe to say that the Xterra will remain competitive in it's segment and the price increases will be small relative to the improvements. If I'm wrong when pricing comes out then sue me for all that I don't have! [Finger]
Posted by: ButterBean

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 08:56 PM

Standard, like Nissan would do anything about that
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 10:16 PM

I'm too tired to read all 26 pages of this thread, but I do have some comments on what I did read.

Nissan gave us 2005 Xterra brochures while in Moab. The Xterra in Brent's pictures has a leaf spring rear, while the Xterra in the brochure has coils. It also had skid plates all over underneath so there shouldn't be any issues with oil pan placement.

The interior is very nice. The front seats fold flat forward, and the rears fold flat without removing headrests. The entire cargo area is a durable plastic material for easy cleaning and incorporates a channel design that allows different accessories to be installed into the floor.

It has brake actuated traction control. Spin a tire, tap the brake, it stops spinning and the other gets the power.

The badges and ass-end look much better on a silver one. Notice how the rear passenger windows will no roll all the way down ?

The steering wheel sucks. I want room at 9 and 3, and I don't want the little bulges, the ones in our WRX give me hand cramps.

Price should remain the same.

It is better in every way than the current generation Xterra.

TremorX has zero taste.

And stop with the lame-ass "they copied someone else" or "it looks like something else". It looks like an Xterra, and they copied no one.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
The Xterra in Brent's pictures has a leaf spring rear, while the Xterra in the brochure has coils.
Hmmm, so maybe I wasn't imagining things at the June showing? Now I guess the question is, were the brochures made before a decision was made to cut costs and go with leaf springs, or was the prototype built before a decision was made to go with coils? My guess is that the coils were ditched after the brochures were made, since the June prototype apparently had coils and the most recent does not. Then again, maybe the leaf springs now were a cover-up? Guess we'll find out in the fall!
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:35 PM

Maybe the lid on the gear basket is removable

look at these 2 pics

looks like it is off in the this picture
http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal_lg06.jpg

on in this one
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/06_2005_xterra.jpg
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
Guess we'll find out in the fall!
Or in June at the plant tour… laugh
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/04/04 11:51 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ramness:
Maybe the lid on the gear basket is removable

look at these 2 pics

looks like it is off in the this picture
http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal_lg06.jpg

on in this one
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/800px/06_2005_xterra.jpg
[/QUO TE]

Yeah, you can tell in other pictures too that the hinge looks like it slips right out. BTW, that first picture you linked is my new desktop...I LOVE the way the beast looks directly from the front! laugh
Posted by: Aero Steve

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 12:29 AM

Like Ian I skipped to the end. My gripes:

1) It looks like it has rack and pinion steering. What we have now is more durable for offroad use. Can Calmini replace/upgrade it?

2) The front suspension looks weak, more like a car. The knuckles are at least twice as tall as ours with wimpier control arms. Where the tires mount give you a pretty good moment arm to bend the knuckle in the middle of it. I see breakage in the future.

3) The steps in the rear corners. How tough is it to use the tire? Everything you need and nothing you don't. Bullshit. It will be more expensive to replace and easier to damage. It's design creep and shit that really doesn't do much for you.

4) The skidplates may protect you from the random twig sticking up, but they aren't sturdy enough to do shit. They aren't much better than tin foil. More desing creep bullshit. At least there are built in mount points for real skids.

5) Does it look like it has lower ground clearance? Breakover angle looks like crap. From what I've heard all future SUV's will be lower to avoid lawsuits from rollovers and to lower the bumpers to match typical heights for cars.

I'll have more later. I see a vehicle that looks like an Xterra and is built less beefy and is not suitable for the offroading some of us currently do in our Xterras.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 06:15 AM

I just looked at the Nissan site and saw the updated picutres of the '05. It does look like it has less grond clearance. It also looks a little longer than the current model.
Posted by: Herbie_53

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 07:38 AM

Bigger, heavier, improved ride, more highway passing power, and strut/coil suspension.

Sounds to much like an Explorer.

I hope someone at Nissan understands and remembers what made the X a success in the first place.
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 07:57 AM

It's nice but I don't like the square fender flares, too bad they're not round. Thats screws up the whole truck. [Uh Oh !]
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 08:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
[b] The Xterra in Brent's pictures has a leaf spring rear, while the Xterra in the brochure has coils.
Hmmm, so maybe I wasn't imagining things at the June showing?[/b]
Hmm, is this the pic Ian is referring to?



Either it's got coils, or it's spring-over, but I don't see u-bolts.

Good eye Ian,
Brent
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 10:22 AM

That's the picture in the brochure, and that's a trailing arm coming back on the left side.
Posted by: Matt Peckham

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 10:22 AM

that's definitely coiled. It's got a linkage. No need for linkage on leafs.
Posted by: Matt Peckham

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 10:23 AM

arggh, beat by zock!
Posted by: Aero Steve

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 10:53 AM

Where are the pics taken by the people that went to the lunch? It clearly showed spring under leafs outboard of the shockmounts.
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/04/04 11:22 AM

Steve, Brent had those here .

After reading the Nissan News site, it appears coils were ditched in the rear.
Posted by: Xterradon

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/04/04 06:14 AM

Did anyone watch the Xterra video screens at the show behind the new Pathfinder? They had comparisons of the new Xterra's capabilities with an ordinary SUV (Jeep Cherokee). Electronic locker, hill descent control, etc. Sorry if this is a repost.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/04/04 07:45 AM

Ah, now I see the lower link in the pic, I thought that was the frame rail at first.
Shock is too far outboard to clear a leaf setup too.

Damn shame, coils sure would have been nice,
Brent
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/04/04 10:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
TremorX has zero taste.
I just caught this.. wtf? I pretty much agreed with what you said, and I can go back on my two gripes about the rear cargo area after looking at it again. My only differing opinion at this point is liking long shifters in a truck and not minding the dial-a-drivetrain option. With the black grill now appearing I'm content and excited.

And yes, Ian, I might actually get a 4x4 this time. But I won't like it. wink
Posted by: Kerensky97

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/04/04 08:50 PM

On the issue of the R&P steering.

It should clear up the centerlink problem, the steering does look a little wimpy but the equipment may actually be pretty stout. I'd like to see some pics of how the rack connects to the frame, if it's a sturdy connection it eliminates the problem of the steering pushing up into the frame. All you would have to worry about is wear at the ends of the tie rods.

Overall, it's nice but I'll keep my square eye till I can afford to import a Patrol. 30k is too much to pay for something that didn't move far enough in the direction I wanted.
Posted by: Todrick

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 01:46 AM

just read this thread...

and looked at pictures...

and read articles...

i'm having serious deja vu of april 1999 when i first saw the Xterra...

Now how am I going to explain this to the wife?

"I think we need to buy the New Xterra"

"yes, I know we just sold our old one..."

"no, this is different"

"yes it WILL go when you hit the gas on a hill"

"oh and it looks a lot like the armada you like so much"

Damn... this might just work smile
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 08:28 AM

^^ Yeah, same here. I'm waiting until '07 or so (want to go back to college first) but I WILL be getting one. Dark grey metallic or Granite, 6-speed 4x4. Hopefully by then there'll be a lot of mods available, too.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 01:06 PM

The main thing I dislike about the '05 is the fact that I probably won't be getting one given that I already have a relatively new 2003 S/C. So, I guess I better learn to like what I have. Same thing happened when I purchased my 1999 Maxima and they came out with the re-design in 2000. To be honest, I liked the way the old one looked better.

I can't predict what my reaction will be when I finally spot a 2005? As they say, "the grass isn't always greener on the other side." So, maybe when that shiny new 2005 pulls up beside my nicely modded and immaculately maintained 2003, I'll give it a curious and respectful look--and keep driving without feeling bad about owning an Xterra that is supposedly past its "born on" prime. Frankly, I'm more concerned about the fact that my hair line is receding. laugh

-dp [Smoking]
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 01:19 PM

Yeah.. hence why I'm going to hold off until 07. Besides, I MIGHT could benefit from the addition of that dial-a-drivetrain thingy a bit more. I hear it makes the FRONT wheels turn, too! Bizarre stuff, man.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 06:04 PM

well, if i buy one, i'm going to mod some round headlights into it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 07:43 PM

What the hell would we have said about the 1st generation Xterra when it debuted if this board would've existed? Look at how we're nit-picking now. Pretty crazy, huh? Wonder what we'll say when the 3rd gen comes out. Just my food for thought.
Posted by: Todrick

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 11:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Paceman:
What the hell would we have said about the 1st generation Xterra when it debuted if this board would've existed?
we were really nit picky then too... it was just on yahoo and ITW...
Posted by: Aero Steve

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 11:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Paceman:
What the hell would we have said about the 1st generation Xterra when it debuted if this board would've existed? Look at how we're nit-picking now. Pretty crazy, huh? Wonder what we'll say when the 3rd gen comes out. Just my food for thought.
You should have been around when the wrangler debuted with square headlights.
Posted by: johnnyx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/04/04 11:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Todrick:
Quote:
Originally posted by Paceman:
[b]What the hell would we have said about the 1st generation Xterra when it debuted if this board would've existed?
we were really nit picky then too... it was just on yahoo and ITW...[/b]
Heh heh. Yup! I haven't even viewed the yahoo board in a hell of a long time and still recall that in the first 25 posts or so, there was a discussion of "when will there be a V8" or something like that. [LOL]

(Okay, for sh*ts and giggles I went back and looked - #23)
Posted by: Todrick

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 01:22 AM

the really sad thing is it was also in the first couple hundred posts that the topic of a lid for the roof basket was mentioned... 5 years later nissan comes around.
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 03:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cranky:
well, if i buy one, i'm going to mod some round headlights into it.
I second that!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 11:04 AM

I 3rd that
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 11:06 AM

Look closer. They're almost as round as the current model and framed in rectangles. It looks fine, especially with the black grill.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 04:15 PM

I like it!!! Especially the interior and 250 HP engine and 4 wheel disc brakes, but does anybody know if the rear window opens, like every other SUV on the road?
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 05:03 PM

I seriously doubt it.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 07:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by altima:
Quote:
Originally posted by cranky:
[b]well, if i buy one, i'm going to mod some round headlights into it.
I second that!![/b]
You guys are seriously in need of professional help! Quick, get it now before it's too late! Round headlights never belonged on the Xterra. They have their places, but the X isn't one of them. Didn't you ever learn that the round peg doesn't go in the square hole? That's how the round headlights look on the Xterra; like they don't belong, and the cheesy ass plastic trim over them really adds a "special" effect. Had Nissan left the trim off they would have been tolerable, but the way they did it just makes me want to hurl! Guess I wasn't the only one at the June prototype viewing that didn't like them, because the current front end was one of the biggest complaints I heard from other people who were judging the styling on the current model and the prototype. Round lost out! laugh

[Freak]
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 07:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
I am seriously in need of professional help! Quick, get it now before it's too late! Round headlights always belonged on the Xterra. They have their places, and the X is clearly one of them. Didn't you ever learn that square headlights went out of style 20 years ago? That's how the square headlights look on the Xterra; like they don't belong on anything made after 1985. Had Nissan contoured them to the lines of the body they would have been tolerable, but the way they did it just makes me want to hurl! Guess I wasn't the only one at the June prototype viewing that liked them, because the current front end was one of the biggest compliments about styling on the current model and the prototype. PLEASE SHOOT ME! laugh

[Freak]
That's slightly better.

ps my round lights bring all the girls to the yard and they're like "it's better than yours"
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 07:46 PM

Yeah, but they are the wrong kind of girls! [Finger] [LOL]
Posted by: DueNorth

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 08:12 PM

Forget about looks, round headlines are more efficent then rectanular ones. That is why people complain more about the brightness on the newer models versus the older ones. :p

Why do you think Hummers and Jeeps have round lights? wink
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 08:17 PM

Yeah, but not all Jeeps have round headlights and even the Wrangler had squares for awhile. Now there's an example of where NOT to use square lights! Yep, Wrangler = Round and Xterra = Square! laugh
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 08:21 PM

In all truthfulness, I don't really care, but I do prefer the current model.

Unless you're talking about 05, which is better than both because it IS both.

Although it's closer to being round. Which is clearly better. [Finger]
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 08:38 PM

I don't care either. It's not a deal breaker for me. My biggest problem has always been more to do with what is around and near the round lights than with the round lights themselves. I mean, the Frontier lights are almost the same except without all the crap and they look good to me.

Besides, what would I do if I couldn't pick on the round headlight and 2WD folks? laugh
Posted by: Rickster43

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 09:23 PM

Squares are for Squares...
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/04/04 09:44 PM

In yellow, it looks better with the square lights, I'll give you that one any day of the week. Granite BY FAR looks best on the round-eyes. wink The other colors are so-so on either model.

I'm hoping for either Granite or a dark metallic grey or gunmetal finish on the '05+....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/04/04 04:46 AM

i'm just joshing as well.

i'll be tickled pink over the hand brake and a non-rusty hatch!
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/04/04 09:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DueNorth:
Forget about looks, round headlines are more efficent then rectanular ones. That is why people complain more about the brightness on the newer models versus the older ones. :p
No, it's because they switched to a reflective rather than refractive beam pattern method. The square ones have the back side of the lens shaped to bend the light where it is needed, while the round ones rely purely on the shaped reflector behind the bulb to direct the light. You can buy reflector-type replacement housings for the 00/01 on Ebay for about $80 and they're actually pretty good unlike most of the crap you find there. There was a rumor that they were Nismo items, but I don't think that was ever conculusively determined.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/04/04 10:47 AM

I think the fact that NISMO is now available through the dealers and those lights aren't listed says they are not a NISMO item. But, I do like them better than the stock lights. One thing to note is that they are a better focused at the top cutoff than not only the '02 and up lights, but also the stock '00 -'01 lights, so they don't produce the obnoxious glare that the '02+ lights do. My point being that the complaints for brightness are not related to the type of light, but to the poor focus of them combined with improper alignment.

It still amazes me that the U.S. refuses to adopt lighting standards like those other countries have, and instead insists on poor light output to try and cover up their bad design requirements. :rolleyes:
Posted by: Xtracurricular

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/04/04 07:56 PM

Personnaly I like the round lights on an unmodified X, but think the square ones look better behind an ARB or Shrockworks bumper. If round is so bad, why are so many aftermarket lights round? Why do so many people put round auxiliary lighting on thier square headlighted X? I wonder why after 27 pages of discussion, we end up talking about this for the last two. I guess we ran out of real substance in all that chatter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/04/04 06:52 AM

I like the size and the new engine. Mmmmmmmm, 6 speed manual. But, no sunroof? You can keep that cargo basket disaster and leave me my sunroof. The foot wells at the rear are gimmicky. The badging is getting ridiculous. The rims remind me of the Z71. The front end is OK. More colours, pleease! As long as the quality and reliability remain strong, Nissan should be proud. cool
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/04/04 09:18 AM

Man after seeing those giant size pictures of the 05 X, I might have to trade in my 02 X. I should have about 40,000 miles on mine by X-mas. laugh
Posted by: smudog

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/04/04 10:05 PM

Does anyone know where the oil filter is going to be on the new model? Same ol' spot, or do you think they tried to improve this from the previous models? All in all, I'd have to say that I like what I see.

Mike
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/04/04 10:29 PM

How do you improve on where the oil filter currently is? confused
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/04/04 10:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
How do you improve on where the oil filter currently is? confused
No shit. The Xterra is the easiest vehicle I've ever changed the oil on. Just drop the "skid plate" and the filter is right there. The current Xterra is pretty much perfect in that regard... :rolleyes:
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 04:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
How do you improve on where the oil filter currently is? confused
Well, the '05 looks like it has a trap door for the filter - that would negate having to take the entire skid off to change the oil...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 04:29 AM

i wonder about getting a real dead pedal instead of just a tire hump.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 11:12 AM

Yup, you can see the little door in the splash guard to access it in my pics:
http://www.nissanoffroad.com/05X/DSC02750.JPG

The filter is directly behind it and sits horizontally rather than pointed down like our current setup.
Posted by: smudog

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 03:33 PM

I was mainly just referring to the angle of the filter. I guess I've always preferred a clean change to one where my hand gets covered in used oil.

Mike
Posted by: Adalbert

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 05:43 PM

What about the rear seat bottoms. Do they still come out to make the vehicle better for sleeping in? I saw 1 pic of them and looks like the 05 rear seat cushion is hinged in place and flips up. Can anyone confirm?
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 06:04 PM

Seat cushions will no longer come out. That was one of the biggest complaints with the current Xterra and Nissan did something about it. True they were handy for sleeping, but that's about it. Not sure how it all works in the new one, but the front passenger seat (maybe driver's too?) folds down totally flat to mesh with the rear cargo area. There was a picture somewhere in this thread I think.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 06:04 PM

It doesn't look like you need to take them out, the rear seatbacks fold all the way down flat if I'm looking at it right.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 07:23 PM

A'la the Honda Element.

I hate the french.

EDIT -Wow, I never thought I'd start a page 30.
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 07:50 PM

Yahoo! Auto has a nice writeup and video on the 2005 Xterra.
Posted by: Snoopy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 07:55 PM

Also an interview with Shiro Nakamura on the Xterra Design: LINK

Then look under "Interviews and Special Features" (at the bottom).
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 08:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snoopy:
Also an interview with Shiro Nakamura on the Xterra Design: [b]LINK [/b]
He called it a car 3 times [Freak]

The video in the first link you provided confirms the rear seat cushins fold up automatically, and are attached permanently now.

That rear under cargo area is huge! Bye bye rubbermaid!

The drivetrain looking button is still there on the 6 speed version of the X, so it can't be VDC - locker? smile
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/04/04 10:18 PM

From the Yahoo article, it said

"Four-wheel-drive versions will use a multimode transfer case that offers two Hi/Auto/4Hi/4Lo modes for maximum flexibility in varying conditions."

AUTO MODE? That sounds like the current system found in the Pathfinder. If it has that, then it could mean that the xterra have a center differential that is lockable. Is that true? I have always thought this was a part time only 4wd system.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 07:18 AM

Yeah, Yahoo is a real credible source of info...

Only the Pathfinder has all-mode, the X and Frontier are part-time (with an always-locked center "diff")
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 07:45 AM

Can somebody post the pics from that yahoo article, especially whatever relates to the interior? For some reason i can't view them and I 'm at work so I can't download flashplayer. Thanks. smile
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 11:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
Yeah, Yahoo is a real credible source of info...

Only the Pathfinder has all-mode, the X and Frontier are part-time (with an always-locked center "diff")
The prototype I sat in had an all-mode setting, but it also had a rea locker switch and obviously they may have dropped both since then. I wouldn't be suprised if they at least package it with the higher trim levels though. They still have 8 months to play around with things before production starts!
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 01:36 PM

If the all-mode were still in consideration, they wouldn't have specified that it's part-time in the info released so far. They've nailed down a lot of the spec already, including the major mechanical things, and the final spec will be fixed next month according to the people we talked to in NYC. I don't see it happening.
Posted by: Adalbert

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 05:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:
It doesn't look like you need to take them out, the rear seatbacks fold all the way down flat if I'm looking at it right.
So because they stick up above the load floor, you cannot lay down and stretch out- unless your a midget! Looks like I just have to keep the '01.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 06:04 PM

Is the AUTO-MODE of any real use? How does it actually manages torque between front and back? Or is it just an open center diff? I hope that by not offering it in the Xterra but on the pathfinder, they can justify some price differential and make the Xterra cheaper.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 09:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Adalbert:
Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:
[b]It doesn't look like you need to take them out, the rear seatbacks fold all the way down flat if I'm looking at it right.
So because they stick up above the load floor, you cannot lay down and stretch out- unless your a midget! Looks like I just have to keep the '01.[/b]
THAT'S a deal breaker? Also, the rear cargo area is bigger. And you can use those seat cushions as pillows. Sheesh, you square-headlight guys sure have a dose of it, lemme tell you! [LOL]
Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 10:32 PM

Another bad thing about a fold flat seat (without removing the cushions) is that the seat has to be built lower, loosing the stadium seating, which is really cool to have.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 10:45 PM

What? It's still there. Look closer.
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/04/04 11:13 PM

Well, I'm sure if you need them to come out bad enough they will! They go in somehow, so they must come out! laugh Personally, I'd be happy to have them fold properly...I can never figure out where the hell to put mine when I pull them out for cargo! Can't count how many times I've had to set them on the front passenger seat or on the floorboard.
Posted by: Todrick

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 12:55 AM

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We interrupt this post for a test of the jesus-christ-your-all-slow-on-the-uptake system.
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OK three easy steps to a fold flat 01-04:

1. remove seat cushions.

2. as if sitting in the seat take the seat cushion and hold it out in front of you with the ass touching part facing you... thick end toward floor, now set it on the floor in that position and fold the seat back down pinning it between the headrest of the rear seat back and the back of the front seat.

3. repeat for the other cushion.

(i figured this out in the first time i took the cushions out... before i even purchased the Xterra)
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just to help out any other people having trouble with simple problem solving:

to carry long items(12' step ladder for example):

1. remove passenger side rear seat cushions and place it on driver side rear seat(for this you can't place it in the normal spot)

2. remove front passenger seat head rest, place on rear driver side seat.

3. recline front passenger seat all the way back.

4. fold passenger side rear seat back forward.

its not quite flat but it gives you a hell of a long area to carry those longer items. this one took me a little longer to figure out, maybe a week or two... i first posted these tips on here about a year ago when i realized that no one else had apparently noticed this.

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This conclude this test, we now return you to your regularly scheduled reading...
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Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 01:07 AM

Doesn't work if the people up front are tall! If I fold down the back seats, the headrest is touching the back of my seat so there's no way the cushion will fit in there! Will work on the other side with one cushion though usually. Also, sometimes I take things out of the cargo area and put them ont he rear seat floorboard to make room for large items in back. So, that area is already full of crap and the seat cushions have no home.

ANyway, my point wasn't that I can't find anyplace to put them, it's that it's an annoyance and really kinda dumb.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 08:46 AM

Yah, that doesn't always work. I usually leave my cushions at home when I go camping.
Posted by: PDXterra

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 10:00 AM

"In the event of a water landing, your seat bottom cushion can be used as a floatation device..."
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 10:04 AM

I bungeed the rear cushions in the gear basket but it was a sunny day with no threat of rain.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 10:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueSky42:
I bungeed the rear cushions in the gear basket but it was a sunny day with no threat of rain.
What did you use to scrape the bugs off and beat the dust out? :rolleyes:
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 02:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueSky42:
[b]I bungeed the rear cushions in the gear basket but it was a sunny day with no threat of rain.
What did you use to scrape the bugs off and beat the dust out? :rolleyes: [/b]
It was a short trip.
Posted by: Adalbert

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/04/04 06:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
Well, I'm sure if you need them to come out bad enough they will! They go in somehow, so they must come out!
Ideally they would be hinged to flip forward for when that will suffice. But have the "pin" be easily removeable for when you want to sleep in back and use the cushion for bridging the gap. And design the cushion so that it bridges snugly by fitting in place ala picture puzzle.Damn, I see a Nissan Design job offer in my future [Smoking]
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/04 12:44 AM

Damn it! Everyone keeps mentioning pics of the cargo area where are these pics?

One question I have about the fold flat seats. Do you loose the foot well area? Or do the folding bottom cushions occupy that? I use that space when on trips to hide stuff from view like cameras and such.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/04 04:06 AM

*note to self*... check ramness's rear foot well for goodies.
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/04 11:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cranky:
*note to self*... check ramness's rear foot well for goodies.
Ha Ha funny! You going to be at hooters on Saturday?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/04 12:38 PM

i'm afraid i can't make it...i'll be at my rehearsal dinner on saturday night. we're having a pig roast at red top mountain. know any good 4x4 trails near allatoona?? laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/04 03:52 PM

Regaring the 2005 drive train configuration, the interior picture of the 2005 xterra in the nissanusa.com future vehical gallery seems to show some sort of (2WD,AUTO,4LO and 4HI) selector. Also, if you look at the push buttons on the right, it looks like there is a drive train related switch (possbily locker?) Anyway, the picture is not perfectly clear, but you can see it below. What do you folks think?

Image link
http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal_lg02.html
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/04 06:11 PM

Damn, can't believe it hasn't been clarified yet...
The rear seat cushions fold forward against the back of the front seats, then the seatbacks fold down FLAT behind them. I can't have been the only one to have seen that in a photo or video recently.
As for snowstorm's question, we've already noticed that and speculated 2 pages back. Yes, there apparently was the possibility that the X would get the all-mode t-case at one point, and the 4WD selector in that picture does appear to have an extra position that looks just like the 05 Pathfinder w/ an "auto" mode:
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/pathfinder/colour/10_2005_pathfinder.jpg
Remember that there is a picture of the Xterra with a multi-link coil rear suspension in the preview brochure too, so I'm inclined to believe the one you're referring to is of an early prototype too. The all-mode t-case is out of the picture now, here's the current interior:
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/xterra/colour/13_2005_xterra.jpg
Yes, the other picture shows what appears to be a locker switch similar to the Frontier:
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/frontier_kingcab/colour/08_2005_frontier.jpg
Locker is still up in the air, but let's hope we made it clear we want to see it.

Brent
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/04 06:23 PM

With them pushing the Xterra as an 'offroad vehicle,' they'd be crazy not to. I'm thinking it may either be a 'deluxe' option, or something inclusive with the "offroad" version. With the Frontier getting it, though, even if the X doesn't it's only a matter of time before someone tries to do a swap.
Posted by: Heepspo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/05/04 01:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:


If it looked more like this I might have been interested.
This looks totally [Rainbow] which is why Nissan decided not to make it look like that.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/05/04 01:39 PM

shut up it's cool you look [Rainbow] and so does your mom
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/05/04 06:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
Damn, can't believe it hasn't been clarified yet...
The rear seat cushions fold forward against the back of the front seats, then the seatbacks fold down FLAT behind them. I can't have been the only one to have seen that in a photo or video recently.
Where? all I have seen posted is the dash and front seat area!
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/05/04 09:01 AM

Believe it was in the video from the show floor where they interviewed a Japanese Nissan rep (by Edmunds I think). A half-decent (and huge) pic was posted by IraSel too:

http://members.aol.com/vnhln/images/xrear.jpg

Brent
Posted by: XterrAZ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/04 09:33 AM

Let's try pinning this and maybe the newbies will use it instead of starting new "breaking" news on the '05's
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/04 01:44 PM

ahh so the seat bottom does just fold forward... that sucks.
Posted by: bonesnTX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/04 01:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ramness:
ahh so the seat bottom does just fold forward... that sucks.
Sounds like front occupant legroom will probably suffer when the rear seat(s) is folded flat?
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/04 02:00 PM

Everyone bitches about the removeable seat cushions on the current X, and now the flip-forward ones aren't OK either? What do you want?
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/04 02:20 PM

They need to be magical, so that they disappear when not needed, and reappear when they are, and all the driver has to say is "MAGICAL SEAT CUSHION I SUMMON THEE"
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/04 03:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TremorX:
They need to be magical, so that they disappear when not needed, and reappear when they are, and all the driver has to say is "MAGICAL SEAT CUSHION I SUMMON THEE"
Damn you, I was going to request the magical seats and you beat me to it! [Finger]

Now the serious answer. I'm sure Nissan took into account the space between the front seats and the back seats when folded down. Remember too that the new Xterra has more legroom in the rear seat area, which means more room for the seats to fold too. Infact, I believe that's the reason the seats don't fold in the current model...there's nowhere for them to fold to! Oh yeah, there's more legroom up front too!
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/04 07:07 PM

Don't forget, Nissan indicated that there is now 3" more room in the back seat. How thick are the cusions now? hmmm......
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/05/04 07:39 AM

hey everybody talks about the new05, new this new that.. blah blah blah. Whats the pricing gonna be on the new xterra?
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/05/04 08:44 AM

a million billion dollars and your first born's arm and leg
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/05/04 12:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Xcuco:
hey everybody talks about the new05, new this new that.. blah blah blah. Whats the pricing gonna be on the new xterra?
Try reviewing this thread in its entirety...
Posted by: ChuckH

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/05/04 12:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DocNo:
Don't forget, Nissan indicated that there is now 3" more room in the back seat. How thick are the cusions now? hmmm......
I doubt they could be any thinner than the current cushions, unless they are just going without padding completely! eek
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/05/04 05:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckH:
[QBI doubt they could be any thinner than the current cushions, unless they are just going without padding completely! eek [/QB]
Yeah, you could say that :rolleyes: I was getting more at the point that 3" is quite a bit of space and even with the fat cushions we have now, with 3" the kind of seat pictured in the '05 looks emminently feasable.

That's all cool
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/05/04 06:42 AM

reading this forum entirely!! what are you insane!! i dont have hours of free time you know.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/05/04 08:53 AM

OK then, let's put it this way, pricing hasn't been established yet, but there's lots of speculation in this thread.

And FYI to all, just noticed that in the "Future Vehicles" section of Nissanusa.com for the Xterra, it says it's available February 2005.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/05/04 08:09 AM

niiiiice, good thing they got the square headlights again. the circle ones didnt realli fit the x-terra very well.
Posted by: Lincoln

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/05/04 08:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DeViou$:
good thing they got the square headlights again. the circle ones didnt realli fit the x-terra very well.
:rolleyes:

Round headlight envy!

wink
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/05/04 02:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DeViou$:
niiiiice, good thing they got the square headlights again. the circle ones didnt realli fit the x-terra very well.
If you look closely, the outside trim is square, but the headlight itself is round.

Both to keep everyone happy :rolleyes:
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/06/04 10:26 AM

Hmmmm the new xterra on a titan frame? WOW its gonna be big!!! have you guys ever seen how big the titan is? WOW! Can you guys say GLUP GLUP GLUP [Spit]
Posted by: KJ_dragon

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/06/04 10:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OROZCO's:
Hmmmm the new xterra on a titan frame? WOW its gonna be big!!! have you guys ever seen how big the titan is? WOW! Can you guys say GLUP GLUP GLUP [Spit]
Titan frame does not equal Titan size.

Please read the entire thread before posting.
:p
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/06/04 05:42 PM

yeah i did read the whole thread. its gonna be nice, but i still think its gonna be big like the titan. its all good cuz car and driver rated it number 1 [ThumbsUp] pickup in its class new ford f150 came 2nd laugh but thats my 0.02 [Wave]
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/06/04 05:47 PM

The Armada is Big.

The X will continue to be a midsize SUV in the same vein as the Fronty.
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/06/04 08:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OROZCO's:
Hmmmm the new xterra on a titan frame? WOW its gonna be big!!! have you guys ever seen how big the titan is? WOW! Can you guys say GLUP GLUP GLUP [Spit]
I've actually pulled next to a test-model '05 at a red light. If anything, it looks a bit smaller next to the current model, though it's pretty close to being the same size.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/06/04 10:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by OROZCO's:
yeah i did read the whole thread. its gonna be nice, but i still think its gonna be big like the titan.
That's what you get for thinking [Huh?]

The titan frame is modular. I saw the '05 in New York and it is very similar in size to the current X.

Now the bulge on the back - it grew [Freak]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/06/04 06:39 PM

cool, i cant wait to see the new x. i just didnt want to see it turn into an expedition size suv. laugh but it sounds good from what everyone is saying, keep in mind i live in el paso,tx. theres no X 2005's riding around here smile [Wave]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/06/04 10:13 AM

What kind of milage is it going to get? I hope it is better then mine.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/06/04 06:39 PM

XOC can you move this post yet?
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/06/04 08:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by makai006:
XOC can you move this post yet?
confused Move it where? It's stiky on the top of the General forum for a reason....
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/06/04 08:02 AM

Indeed it is, though people still manage to miss it and announce the new 05 or ask obvious questions about it :rolleyes:

Perhaps Ian or X-Chosen can edit the topic so it's a bit more obvious that this thread is the mother-lode of 05 X info so far...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/06/04 12:53 AM

the 05 X looks pretty good. i still like the 2000-01 the best but i might have to consider a 05 maybe in 07.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/06/04 11:24 AM

wow DocNo youre a reall ass, everyone is entitled to an opinion. maybe you should learn how to think. youre a real meanie [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/06/04 12:00 PM

Nice first post there, you're on your way to becoming an ass too!

DocNo isn't an ass. I'm an ass, ask anyone!

Brent
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/06/04 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by OROZCO's:
yeah i did read the whole thread. its gonna be nice, but i still think its gonna be big like the titan.
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That's what you get for thinking

The titan frame is modular. I saw the '05 in New York and it is very similar in size to the current X.

Now the bulge on the back - it grew

DOCNO youre pretty damn rude, [ThumbsDown] but looks like you think youre funny. why dont you go hide under a bridge you troll?! [Finger] and see if your hump on your back grows [Argue] once again do everyone a favor and hide troll [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/06/04 12:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by sofiaX:
everyone is entitled to an opinion
Not when it pertains to fact. Fact - the Xterra is not going to be huge like a Titan just because it shares the Titan platform.

Theres no room for a value judgment in that statement (or an opinion). That's where the "thinking" comment came from. A little harsh? Perhaps - but the person making the comment had been corrected and referred back to FACTS later in the thread, and then still persisted with WRONG information. It's not a matter of belief (i.e. I think blue is prettier than orange) - it is what it is.

I don't even know why I am bothering to dignify this obvious trolling with a reply :rolleyes:
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/06/04 12:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
DocNo isn't an ass. I'm an ass, ask anyone!
Apparently I have a couple new fans... or do I? Would love to see their IP addresses wink

Damn, first spam on XOC, now invasion of the not so subtle trolls.....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/06/04 12:30 PM

[Finger] ip whats that? ill pee at your add [Too much XOC] ress
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/06/04 09:04 PM

Any new news on pricing/release dates? Or even when they're going to release that info.? And yes I have Googled, to no avail, except "...will be available early 2005."
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/06/04 08:30 AM

Nope. Keep an eye on Nissannews.com.
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/06/04 06:21 AM

Can somebody please post a side by side picture of a 05 X next to a jeep liberty? I still think it looks like a liberty. I can't wait to see one in person. [Laughing]
Posted by: tcdesign

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/06/04 08:43 AM

Open these in new browser windows and compare them:

Xterra-side

Xterra front

Jeep side

I think its just the wheel wells that look similar now that they're a little more squared off. Other than that, I don't think it looks like a liberty at all. You could compare a lot of SUVs from the side and make similar comments though.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/06/04 09:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by OffroadX :many days ago...
Talking out of your ass doesn't always make you one... laugh
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/06/04 11:03 AM

Thanks for the pics. Man it really reminds me of a Liberty. I hate the Liberty.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/06/04 02:00 PM

what do you mean offroad? are you trying to be mean or what? i mean because you really shouldnt be mean, everyone is just excited that a new x is coming out, with a new look. its not like the ohter models and years, where theyre the same on the inside and outside. so just relax man and enjoy. [ThumbsUp] stop being so mad after all we're all xterra owners. i know its not like [Finger] when i see another x coming down the road right confused or is it? i usually wave and flash the highbeams, why, becuase we xterra owners. so anyways, take it easy offroad eek and relax because its getting old, ive seen your posts and youre usually a jerk as everyone else could agree, i know this is my first post, but hey someone gotta tell you to relax. wink cool
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/06/04 02:03 PM

Indeed it is, though people still manage to miss it and announce the new 05 or ask obvious questions about it

Perhaps Ian or X-Chosen can edit the topic so it's a bit more obvious that this thread is the mother-lode of 05 X info so far...

[ June 09, 2004, 09:15 AM: Message edited by: OffroadX ]
:rolleyes: eek eek
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/06/04 08:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
Here is a little bigger.....

It seriously looks like a Pathfinder now [Huh?]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/06/04 05:41 PM

yep sure does
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/07/04 08:56 PM

Well, I called Nissan Canada today and they told me that the offical release date over here is Feb15 2005
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/07/04 01:18 PM

Really? last week I called and they only said Feb 2005. Great!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/07/04 06:07 PM

Just figured out that the 2005 Xterra will be 3 inches lower than the current model. That doesn't sound very interesting to me!!!
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/07/04 08:25 PM

Uh, how did you figure that out? As far as I'm aware, they increased the clearance...
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/07/04 08:30 PM

He must have used moon metrics
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/07/04 08:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
Just figured out that the 2005 Xterra will be 3 inches lower than the current model. That doesn't sound very interesting to me!!!
You figured wrong. It's taller and has more ground clearance.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/04 10:31 AM

Hi,

I understand that most articles about the 2005 Xterra mentioned about the 2 inches higher and 2 inches additional head room comparing to the old model. The reason why I mentioned about the 2005 model will be lower than the current model is that the following link

(http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/nissan/xterra/100381313/specs.html?tid=edmunds.f.photos.leftsidenav..1.Nissan*)

says that the height is 71.4 inches.

But I looked at the current Xterra Specs on nissan.ca, and it indicates that the height is 74.2 inches.

Any ideas??
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/04 12:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
[b]Just figured out that the 2005 Xterra will be 3 inches lower than the current model. That doesn't sound very interesting to me!!!
You figured wrong. It's taller and has more ground clearance.[/b]
It sure looks smaller in person, though.
Posted by: BradLee

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/08/04 01:55 AM

Well, [URL=http://nissannews.com./nissan/2003vehicles/xterra/specs.shtml, says it is currently at 74.4 (depending on model), and the 2005 should be 71.4? That just don't seem right?
[URL=http://nissannews.com./nissan/2005vehicles/xterra/specs.shtml,
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/08/04 09:04 AM

why don't you just watch the video of the 05 to get your fix ? Its on this site.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/08/04 10:12 AM

Well, [URL=http://nissannews.com./nissan/2003vehicles/xterra/specs.shtml, says it is currently at 74.4 (depending on model), and the 2005 should be 71.4? That just don't seem right?
[URL=http://nissannews.com./nissan/2005vehicles/xterra/specs.shtml,
Quote:
Hi Brad, Thanks for the info. That's exactly what I would like to find out. However, Nissan US and Nissan Canada haven't been able to answer this question to me yet.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/08/04 08:35 AM

NEWS!!
just read an article saying "Nissan will begin accepting orders for the new model in October 2004"
visit http://www.arifleet.com/pnews/2004/pn409/409.htm#fn
Posted by: BradLee

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/08/04 11:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
NEWS!!
just read an article saying "Nissan will begin accepting orders for the new model in October 2004"
visit http://www.arifleet.com/pnews/2004/pn409/409.htm#fn
Well there ya go...
wink
The 2005 Xterra’s wheelbase has been extended two full inches for a smoother ride and greater interior room, yet the overall length is only two-tenths of an inch longer due to a reduced front overhang. The Xterra’s width has also been increased by 2.5 inches, while height has increased 1.9 inches.

Interior flexibility has been enhanced with a 60
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/08/04 12:57 PM

Well there ya go...

The 2005 Xterra’s wheelbase has been extended two full inches for a smoother ride and greater interior room, yet the overall length is only two-tenths of an inch longer due to a reduced front overhang. The Xterra’s width has also been increased by 2.5 inches, while height has increased 1.9 inches.

Interior flexibility has been enhanced with a 60
Quote:
I'm really curious about that 1.9 inches taller! no one from Nissan can answer me so far yet.

Also, as the new 2005 Xterra is using the VQ engine, I'm worrying about the gas type it will be using might be the PREMIUM gas...which is gonna cost a lot more. Hope that's not gonna happen.
Posted by: TJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/08/04 09:34 PM

Sounds alot like the roof rack's dimensions playing here to me.

Sometimes the height's given w/o the rack, sometimes with the rack.

Any chance that's the discrepancy?

eek
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/08/04 08:48 AM

Sounds alot like the roof rack's dimensions playing here to me.

Sometimes the height's given w/o the rack, sometimes with the rack.

Any chance that's the discrepancy?
Quote:
Yeh I hope that's the case even though I really doubt that the roof rack thing on the top is 5 inches tall (3 inches to match the current model + 1.9 inches taller than the current model). Anyway, we'll see.
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/08/04 09:36 AM

Been trying to follow this thread but I don't know where the whole rear locker rumor stands. I was at the western Xterra championships this weekend and they were previewing the 2005 Xterra (and the pathfinder) the Nissan reps confirmed that a rear locker will be a factory option when they are released. I am pretty much sold on the 2005, my only complaints is the rear half resmbles the Honda element from a side view and head room feels smaller in the front (i'm 6'1") although Nissan said that could be the seat adjustments which I didn't fiddle with very much.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/08/04 10:15 AM

I think the following the 2005 Xterra will be sharing the same engine with Frontier.

and the number is:

http://www.nissanhelp.com/News/Most%20Powerful%20V6%20Pickup.htm

"Nissan North America, Inc. today announced best-in-class horsepower and torque ratings for the all-new Nissan Frontier pickup, which goes on sale at Nissan dealerships nationwide in December 2004. The completely redesigned 2005 Frontier comes equipped with an available 4.0-liter DOHC, 24-valve V6 engine that is rated at 265 horsepower and 284 lb-ft of torque. Both figures are expected to be the highest ratings for any V6-equipped pickup – mid-size or full-size."
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/08/04 11:34 AM

Howdy new guy here, currentlly own a 2001 Explorer Sport Trac that is currentlly in the shop getting a $1000 transmision job mad

so I am in the market and the 2005 Xterra looks like what I may go for ... any idea on color choices for the 2005? how do the transmissions hold up in Nissans?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 09:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
The completely redesigned 2005 Frontier comes equipped with an available 4.0-liter DOHC, 24-valve V6 engine that is rated at 265 horsepower and 284 lb-ft of torque.
These new trucks are going to be quick! cool

I saw on another site a link to the 2005 Pathfinder manual.
Quote:
RECOMMENDED FUEL:
Use unleaded regular gasoline with an octane
rating of at least 87 AKI (Anti-Knock Index) number
(Research octane number 91).
For improved performance, NISSAN recommends
the use of unleaded premium gasoline
with an octane rating of at least 91
Hopefully this will be the same on the Xterra. It will be nice to have a choice without worrying about doing damage to the engine because of the lower octane gas.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 06:03 PM

Saw an 05 today on my way home from work. Driving south on the 101 in Scottsdale AZ I spotted something looking rather XTerralike, the back end was different, no more First Aid kit lump. All the badges were taped out, but that was the only masking they had done to it. I guess they are testing them here in Arizona.

I love the new front end. Away with those horrible Round headlights finally.
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 06:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiNkY:
the back end was different, no more First Aid kit lump.
Then it wasn't an 05 Xterra... or you just didn't notice it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 06:30 PM

They are doing hot weather testing in the Tucson testing grounds as we speak.

Also note though, that the Pathfinder is getting an upgrade as well.

See many differences?

New Pathfinder...


New Xterra...


and the First Aid Hump for the X...


No hump, no X.

Probably saw a new Pathfinder, it's smaller than the Armada, but bigger than an X (just a bit though).
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 06:39 PM

I emailed my local Nissan dealership today and they were not sure when they may receive them. Salesman said Nov or Dec ? I dont think he knew what he was talking about.

anyone hear anything?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 06:39 PM

Maybe just me, but it seems like the xterra keeps developing a more overstated look every year.... Anyway, my take

Engine [ThumbsUp]
New roof rack [ThumbsUp]
Wheels [ThumbsDown] [ThumbsDown] [Huh?]
grille [ThumbsDown]
Pull-door handles [ThumbsUp]
Fenders [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 06:56 PM

agreed. You could also add:

gas mileage [ThumbsUp]

I'm sure mileage of new engine will be much better.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 07:13 PM

Official release date is Feb. '05 at this time.

Dunno about the mileage. Bigger engine, more power, takes fuel to make power. But I wouldn't expect a decrease either.

Now if I find out if a supercharger from the 3.3 can fit the 4.0....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 07:40 PM

[/QUOTE]Then it wasn't an 05 Xterra... or you just didn't notice it.[/QB][/QUOTE]

Yeaa, quite possible I missed it. I first spotted the roof rack and thought. That looks a hell of alot like an Xterra, then noticed that the badge was off to the right hand side on the back. Then from the side there was no doubting that it was a X. It was black and had all of the badges, the badges were simnply covered up by what looked like black electrical tape. None of the usual added padding like we usually see on the test cars around here. The guy driving kinda smiled when he noticed how much attention I was paying it from my X.

Well this is Phoenix area, not that close to Tucson, it was heading South tho, so maybe heading back that Direction.

RiNkY
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 07:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiNkY:
Then it wasn't an 05 Xterra... or you just didn't notice it.[/QUOTE]

Yeaa, quite possible I missed it. I first spotted the roof rack and thought. That looks a hell of alot like an Xterra, then noticed that the badge was off to the right hand side on the back. Then from the side there was no doubting that it was a X. It was black and had all of the badges, the badges were simnply covered up by what looked like black electrical tape. None of the usual added padding like we usually see on the test cars around here. The guy driving kinda smiled when he noticed how much attention I was paying it from my X.

Well this is Phoenix area, not that close to Tucson, it was heading South tho, so maybe heading back that Direction.

RiNkY[/QB][/QUOTE]

I see a white 05 Xterra all the time now.. black front end with a loadwarrior on top. Ugly headlights, though. If they're not round, they're CRAP
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/08/04 07:51 PM

Yeaa, it was heading South on the 101 towards Chandler. I can't say I liked the switch to the round headlights. I know this has been discussed here before tho, so won't kick off that discussion again. I'd deffinately consider trading my 2000 (With square headlights) for the 05 and skip all the round headlight models smile

RiNkY
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 09:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Poohdaddy:
I emailed my local Nissan dealership today and they were not sure when they may receive them. Salesman said Nov or Dec ? I dont think he knew what he was talking about.

anyone hear anything?
Nissan rep at the Xterra championships said they will start arriving at dealers in early January. Just saw it this last weekend, so if you have any questions I can try and answer them based on my observations on the latest prtotype.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 09:51 AM

What will be the scale in model ?

I see they have XE, Offroad and SE.
Will SE be a step up from Offroad, having all the Offroad has plus a few gadget ? Or will they be 2 different beast, one being a rock crawler and the other a mall crawler ?
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 09:56 AM

They claim that they have not identified yet what models will have what or what the model names will be. there will be an offroad package/model with upgraded shocks and a rear locker, thats all they said maybe upgrade tires too.
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 10:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by buffalo:
They claim that they have not identified yet what models will have what or what the model names will be. there will be an offroad package/model with upgraded shocks and a rear locker, thats all they said maybe upgrade tires too.
A Nissan rep. said "rear locker", I don't think they have really said that before, that's big news if true. cool
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 01:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
Quote:
Originally posted by buffalo:
[b]They claim that they have not identified yet what models will have what or what the model names will be. there will be an offroad package/model with upgraded shocks and a rear locker, thats all they said maybe upgrade tires too.
A Nissan rep. said "rear locker", I don't think they have really said that before, that's big news if true. cool [/b]
We were at the Xterra championships in Big Bear and a few of us were grilling the Nissan reps about the 2005 while others were picking it a part looking in the back, underneath, under the hood and so on. right next to the push botton was a rocker switch that we weren't familiar with, the rep explained that it was for the rear locker. I guess that squashes that rumor.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 02:54 PM

Quote:
Nissan rep at the Xterra championships said they will start arriving at dealers in early January. Just saw it this last weekend, so if you have any questions I can try and answer them based on my observations on the latest prtotype.
Hi Buffalo! I wish I do have a chance to preview the 2005 Xterra. Do you have a chance to compare the height between the new and the existing model? Does it look exactly same as the one shown on NY Autoshow (according to the pics online)?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 08:23 PM

Probably the same locker that's currently in the Titan. We've played with it as well.

With traction control off, and the locker engaged, oooooooohhhhhhhhh baby! laugh
Posted by: DueNorth

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/04 11:04 PM

Here you go... the pics:

http://www.fototime.com/inv/3BDEB7677A45AFA

Enjoy. smile
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/08/04 11:10 AM

Great pics. I think those give the best feel of what the new X is like, most others are too commercialized. I don't like the new interior at all. It looks to be more functional, but eww is it ugly. Just curious if your the one in the pics? and if so how does it feel when you drive it compared to the current SC models? Thanks again.
Posted by: DueNorth

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/08/04 02:30 PM

We weren't allowed to drive it. Some of the people there are fellow SCCX members (Southern California Club Xterra). Nope, I am not in any of the shots.

However, like message in the glove compartment said:
"Please Note: This is a pre-production unit. There may be differences in quality and performance in comparison to production vehicle sold." laugh
Posted by: slamson00

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/08/04 05:02 PM

So if the 05 Xterra is going to get the e-locker that is currently offered in the Titan....how good is the locker in the Titan?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/08/04 08:31 PM

I found a better pic for the '05!!! laugh j/k

Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/08/04 07:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by slamson00:
So if the 05 Xterra is going to get the e-locker that is currently offered in the Titan....how good is the locker in the Titan?
Well, it's a selectable locker, pretty much the same as any other. When it's on, it's locked...

And did you miss this just a few posts up?

Quote:
Originally posted by Cyclemut:
Probably the same locker that's currently in the Titan. We've played with it as well.

With traction control off, and the locker engaged, oooooooohhhhhhhhh baby! laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/08/04 08:49 AM

Just got the 2005 Xterra info package from Nissan over the weekend. It doesn't have anything that hasn't been seen/mentioned here. I did notice on the photo showing the new 4WD system selector that they used the one with the AUTO mode. :rolleyes: Seems like by now they would know what they are putting in and then choose the right picture, that is unless they are giving the customer the option. confused
Posted by: maximusdelirious

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/08/04 11:22 AM

Stupid question - When selected, because it is electronic, is that locker truley locked or is there the same drawbacks as automatic 4x4 in the current model? Also no winch in the 4x4 package? Also if it has the same drive train as the Titan won't the locker be debugged by the time the 2005 releases?
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/08/04 11:33 AM

The switch with the AUTO position was probably just borrowed from the Pathfinder, but I don't think that it has absolutely been ruled out that the Xterra could offer all-mode...

As for the e-locker, it's 100% locking and I don't think there's any debugging needed, haven't heard of any issues w/ it on the Titan. It's certainly compatible with an all-mode transmission.

You're kidding about a winch, right? Not even the Rubicon offers a winch, the Xterra sure as hell won't, not to mention there's no place to put it.
Posted by: maximusdelirious

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/08/04 11:47 AM

I know it's a pipe dream but I was kinda serious. What about the rear mount reciever plate? Or at least the hitch and plate. I'd spring for the winch if I had a place to mount it. Anything is better than a come-a-long. [Spit]

http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-systems/multi_mount.shtml
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/08/04 01:50 PM

I know part of the fun of an all-new model is talking about what will and will not make it on the final model. But d@mn, this suspense is killing me! :p

I just keep wondering what the fuel economy will be like (oil at almost $50/barrel [Uh Oh !] )
Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/08/04 10:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by maximusdelirious:
I know it's a pipe dream but I was kinda serious. What about the rear mount reciever plate? Or at least the hitch and plate. I'd spring for the winch if I had a place to mount it. Anything is better than a come-a-long. [Spit]

http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-systems/multi_mount.shtml
Perhaps Nissan should look at the Unimog, and put a PTO driven winch in the front; and maybe a backhoe and snowplow attachment ... laugh

Forget it, unless the winch is to upright that blown over soccer goal [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/08/04 11:09 PM

I don't see them offering anything like any sort of winch plate, special reinforcing for a winch or any sort of PTO. wink

I think we'll have a hard enough time getting Calmini to make any sort of front bumper look right on the new X. It'll be hard, for sure.
Posted by: maximusdelirious

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 31/08/04 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RJ:
Quote:
Originally posted by maximusdelirious:
[b]I know it's a pipe dream but I was kinda serious. What about the rear mount reciever plate? Or at least the hitch and plate. I'd spring for the winch if I had a place to mount it. Anything is better than a come-a-long. [Spit]

http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-systems/multi_mount.shtml
Perhaps Nissan should look at the Unimog, and put a PTO driven winch in the front; and maybe a backhoe and snowplow attachment ... laugh

Forget it, unless the winch is to upright that blown over soccer goal [ThumbsDown] [/b]
"Announcing the all new 2005 Nissan Xterra, Everything you'd like and nothing you don't need, or wouldn't buy, if you had the money."
All New 2005 Nissan Xterra Demo Video eek Takes a few minutes to load but the wait is worth it!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 10:42 AM

Just in case it hasn't been mentioned, you can configure the 2005 Xterra in the future vehicles section at www.nissanusa.com .

After going through myself, some things I noticed:

Currently No 6 speed offered on the SE..?? confused I thought the 6 speed was going to be available on all trim levels.

VDC will be available only on the AT until April of 2005 when they will offer it on the 6 speed. :p

Hill descent and hill start available only on the AT.

Prices they have, although not final, look great!

Have fun. laugh
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 10:52 AM

You can't get a manual transmission on an SE now, I'm not surprised the same might be true for the 05.

And: "Please note that final model and options as well as vehicle pricing will only become available at time of launch. Dealer sets actual price."

Brent
Posted by: panhandleX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 10:57 AM

That Night Armor color looks interesting. And the Offroad version dosn't come w/ step rails. Just noticed that too.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 11:13 AM

Locking rear diff is part of the Off-Road package.
Ack, looks like the Off-Road trim is available in 2WD. That's disappointing...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 11:35 AM

Is it just me, or does "Granite" look a lot different? confused Looks like a shade of silver to me.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 11:43 AM

Nissan Must be kidding me! Crap, I tought they had promised that 6-Speed Manual & 5-Speed Automatic transmissions will be available on ALL trim levels thru different articles or their Autoshow. mad

I've been waiting so so long for this Xterra instead of replacing my pathfinder by a 4Runner earlier this year just because of this manual transmission they said they would offer! I'm not impressed by this empty promises! I should have been enjoying a new truck by now. [ThumbsDown]

What the heck are they doing? [Argue] confused
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 01:15 PM

You're kidding, right? You mean to tell me that the manual transmission is so important to you, but whatever froo-froo stuff the SE trim includes is more important? Puh-leeze...
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 01:59 PM

I'll have to see it in person to be sure, and at first I thought I just needed to get used to the new look. But from the first pics until now, one thought has been consistent about the '05: it's just plain downright fugly. [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 02:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
Nissan Must be kidding me! Crap, I tought they had promised that 6-Speed Manual & 5-Speed Automatic transmissions will be available on ALL trim levels thru different articles or their Autoshow. mad
Dunno, the offroad trim is the only one I am interested in:

Standard Features
• 6-spoke 16" Alloy Wheels
• Enhanced 4x4 capabilities (Locking rear differential, Hill Descent Control (HDC), Hill Start Assist (HSA), high performance Bilstein Shocks and unique final drive gear ratio)
• Fold-down passenger seat (plenty of room for long items)
• Power windows, locks and mirrors

and it comes with the six speed! In a couple years, I may have a new X smile

Looks like you can add all the SE stuff... or the stuff that matters to offroad...

Cool!

As for the black armor color, I wonder if that is the black/grey metallic color that was on the early frontier's/Maxima's that I loved... could Nissan have listened??? Can't wait to see a better swatch in the brochure or in person....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 02:42 PM

Too many dull colors....how about a blue color?

Im still probally get one. looks like I would go with Granite or Canteen, Red Brawn maybe, depends what it looks like in person
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 02:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Nisfan:

Hill descent and hill start available only on the AT.
I speced an offroad trim 4x4 manual with hill descent/start...
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 03:06 PM

I have to wonder if something is screwy on their site (since it's sort of beta).

Hill descent has no use on a manual, hill start does. Vice versa with an automatic.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/09/04 03:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
I have to wonder if something is screwy on their site (since it's sort of beta).
could be. I hope that isn't all the color choices...

Quote:
Hill descent has no use on a manual, hill start does. Vice versa with an automatic.
That's what I thought, but I figured I would let someone who knew for sure comment on that smile I'm just happy to see the factory options and the acknowledgement of offroading in general....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/09/04 06:28 AM

I guess Xterra's dont come with leather ?
Posted by: jerseydevi1

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/09/04 06:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Poohdaddy:
I guess Xterra's dont come with leather ?
Prepare the fire-suits! Someone is about to be flamed!
Posted by: TremorX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/09/04 06:40 AM

What a piece of shit. [Wave] Nissan!

Ah well, at least you can get the Off-Road package without wasting money on 4WD.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/09/04 09:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jerseydevi1:
Quote:
Originally posted by Poohdaddy:
[b]I guess Xterra's dont come with leather ?
Prepare the fire-suits! Someone is about to be flamed![/b]
I would take that as a no ... I guess hard core off road vehicles dont need leather, they should have seats made of burlap.

Leather is comfy, and I like it, so flame on
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/09/04 01:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DocNo:
Quote:
Originally posted by Nisfan:
[b]
Hill descent and hill start available only on the AT.
I speced an offroad trim 4x4 manual with hill descent/start...[/b]
Well, I was looking at the standard features of each model when you go to configure it. After you select 4WD on the Off-Road edition, the standard features do say Hill descent and Hill start, but it says AT only. At least that's what I saw. confused
Posted by: panhandleX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/09/04 07:47 AM

Anybody else notice Canteen is not offered on the Ofroad version. Is offered on S and SE though. Why not on all three? confused
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/09/04 06:46 PM

anyone every seen the Night Armor color?

just looks like a real dark charcoal almost black
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/09/04 09:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Poohdaddy:
anyone every seen the Night Armor color?
just looks like a real dark charcoal almost black
If I'm lucky, it was the color I was pestering the Nissan guys for in New York and Richmond smile Basically around 2000 either the Maxima or Frontier (or both) had this metalic charcol color... a black or dark, dark grey base color with a silver metallic fleck. Looked awesome. I hope Black Armor is the same color and dying to see a brochure with a paint swatch or a real '05 painted with it smile
Posted by: ClaptoVaughn

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/09/04 02:04 AM

Damn. I just put together a 2005 at around the same price as what I got for my 2003. Except it has the locker, better engine and whole ass load of extra features.

These 2005s are going to sell like mad if people have any sense left in them.

I would trade up in a snap but my baby's only 2 years old and has quite a few miles left in her yet.
Posted by: XPLORx4

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/09/04 05:06 PM

I just noticed that the dashboard has oil pressure and charging system meters. That's cool- you can tell if your battery is getting drained when you're winching. Do earlier model years have that feature? (I wonder what the alternator output is.... hopefully more than 90amps.)

[Sorry if this was already mentioned; I didn't read all 39 pages of the thread.]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/09/04 07:34 PM

hi everyone. been reading around the general forum for the past 4 months and mainly this thread.

been playing around with the trims and packages on the nissanusa.com future vehicles website and got a question for anyone who can answer this.

do you think the off-road trim will come with the step rails? and also this being my first suv ever, are the step rails very helpful to all you X owners out there? or should i not worry about the step rails so much?
Posted by: Mimic2k

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/09/04 03:53 PM

I was just reading the other thread about the 2005's (Any New Info On O5's) and someone posted the Motor Trend video from the NY Auto Show and I just noticed that the Xterra they show in it isn't Black. It's more of a dark grey like the cladding.

I'm thinking that it's the new Night Armor Color. I noticed it when it was showing the side of the Xterra at the Show and then it cut to the Xterra in the desert, it's clear that there is more of a contrast of the cladding and body color on the desert one (Black Xterra) and the one at the Auto Show (Night Armor).

I'm still undecided on what color I'm going to get. I'm stuck between Night Armor, Black, and Granite. I'm leaning towards Black or Granite now mainly because the Night Armor color looks more like everything (Cladding, and Body Side Moulding) is blended together.

Anyway I was just curious if anyone else noticed that for those that are interested in what the Night Armor Color is going to look like.

-Braden
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/09/04 03:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by snowboardguy:
do you think the off-road trim will come with the step rails? and also this being my first suv ever, are the step rails very helpful to all you X owners out there? or should i not worry about the step rails so much?
No

No.

Not at all.

Most people on this site are quick to take them off if they ever intend on taking their X off-road. They serve no purpose other than helping shord people get up into the truck. If you are a short people or short people will be using your truck often get them. Otherwise don't bother.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/09/04 05:53 PM

i'm 6'4" and im thinking of buying an 05 xterra. will i have to move my driver seat far back like what i usually have to do in sedans?
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/09/04 07:26 PM

The 05 step rails don't even bolt to the frame, they bolt to the body.

Nobody here has sat in an 05 yet, so I don't think anyone can comment on having to move the seat back, but as I understand it, the 05 is supposed to have more passenger room than the current one.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/09/04 10:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
Nobody here has sat in an 05 yet, so I don't think anyone can comment on having to move the seat back.
The folks who went on the plant tour got to rid in the '05. Knew I should hae went this year :p
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/09/04 11:07 PM

D'oh, forgot about that...
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/09/04 11:17 AM

I sat in, listen to and poked arround an '05 Pathy yesterday. It had the cloth interior and a third row back seat.

A few notes: The engine sounded wonderfull, I was at the office when it came by so I wasn't able to take it for a spin but when it left it took off with malice.

The seats are totally different than the Pathfinder seats I've seen.

And for the record the guy that was driving it ( A friend of mine, a Nissan exec.) said that he likes the look of the X a lot better than the Pathy. I'm going to get my hands on an X for a week/weekend in Feb. when they come out so we'll be able to wring it out.
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/09/04 01:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
[QB]The 05 step rails don't even bolt to the frame, they bolt to the body.

Nobody here has sat in an 05 yet, QB]
Hehe I have both sat in, started, and gone for a ride in one.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/09/04 07:02 PM

why do some of the new xterra pics have black grills and some silver?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/09/04 07:25 PM

Maybe one of the differences between a SE and XE
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/09/04 11:48 PM

hmm that would suck
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/09/04 02:57 PM

Light colors get black front grill, and dark colors get the silver one.
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/09/04 04:17 PM

Here are the "Off Road" model colors as per Nissan.
No blue or green but at least yellow is still there. smile

Posted by: panhandleX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/09/04 04:41 PM

Minus Canteen on the Offroad version.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/09/04 04:44 PM

Wish they would do that orange that the 350z comes in ...... where are the above photos from?
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/09/04 05:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by panhandleX:
Minus Canteen on the Offroad version.
Yes, I wonder why they dropped that color for the "Off Road".

BTW - the colors are (in order) yellow, black, white, silver, red "brawn", light black "night armor" and granite.

The pics are from nissanusa.com
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/09/04 09:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
Light colors get black front grill, and dark colors get the silver one.
no.

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal06.html
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/09/04 12:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by swingline:
Quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
[b]Light colors get black front grill, and dark colors get the silver one.
no.

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal06.html [/b]
You're probbably right... but that's what they (nissan) told me.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/09/04 01:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by swingline:
Quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
[b]Light colors get black front grill, and dark colors get the silver one.
no.

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal06.html [/b]
that grill looks black, just looks silver the way the sun is hitting it
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/09/04 02:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Poohdaddy:
Quote:
Originally posted by swingline:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
[b]Light colors get black front grill, and dark colors get the silver one.
no.

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal06.html [/b]
that grill looks black, just looks silver the way the sun is hitting it[/b]
looks silver to me, here's a closeup
http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal03.html compare the grill to the bottom
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/09/04 02:41 PM

i dont know if you guys noticed this but they raised the price of the 05 on www.nissanusa.com. the msrp of a S was 20 now its 21 =/
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/09/04 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by swingline:
Quote:
Originally posted by Poohdaddy:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by swingline:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
Light colors get black front grill, and dark colors get the silver one.
no.

http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal06.html [/b]
that grill looks black, just looks silver the way the sun is hitting it[/b]
looks silver to me, here's a closeup
http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/v/fuv/fuv_xterra_gal03.html compare the grill to the bottom

I stand corrected, black grill probally comes on the base model S (?)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/09/04 03:42 PM

The new jeep liberty looks awful:

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/jeep/liberty/100448922/photogallery.html?pg_type=SUV&imgsrc=%2Fpictures%2FVEHICLE%2F2005%2FJeep%2F100448922%2F031681-T.jpg

The new Land Rover LR3: SMALL TIRES!

http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/landrover/lr3/100286197/photos.html?tid=edmunds.f.review.vdpheaderphoto..0.Land+Rover*

The new Nissan Xterra looks NICE:

http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/nissan/xterra/100381313/photos.html?tid=edmunds.f.review.vdpheaderphoto..0.Nissan*

I see an Xterra in my future! it looks like the better 'off road' vehicle in its class. GO NISSAN
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/09/04 12:29 PM

Is the roof rack on the 2005 likely to be removable? (Is it removable on the current model, for that matter?)

I'm seriously considering a 2005, but the height Nissan lists in the specs is just a tiny bit too high to fit under my current garage door - so I'm wondering if getting the 2005 would necessarily entail getting a new garage door too(!)
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/09/04 12:37 PM

Nope, nor is the current. Well, you can remove the current one, but it's not exactly something you would want to do on any sort of regular basis, and you'll have to come up with some sort of solution to cover/seal the holes that the bolts go through. It looks pretty sorry without it too.
Posted by: Strom

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/09/04 12:02 AM

Anyone else notice that the standard features on the Xterra Off Road model include:

-Power Windows (with Driver Auto Down)
-Manual windows

I can't quite figure out why. Do some of the windows in the back (such as the cargo area) pop out manually (like in minivans)?
Posted by: Strom

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/09/04 12:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by xo_wannabe:
Is the roof rack on the 2005 likely to be removable? (Is it removable on the current model, for that matter?)

I'm seriously considering a 2005, but the height Nissan lists in the specs is just a tiny bit too high to fit under my current garage door - so I'm wondering if getting the 2005 would necessarily entail getting a new garage door too(!)
The height is listed as 71.2" - that's just under six feet. How tall is your garage?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/09/04 04:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Strom:
Anyone else notice that the standard features on the Xterra Off Road model include:

-Power Windows (with Driver Auto Down)
-Manual windows

I can't quite figure out why. Do some of the windows in the back (such as the cargo area) pop out manually (like in minivans)?
yeah i saw that too. the power windows and manual windows, not sure what that means, but as long as it says power windows, than thats wat i expect.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/09/04 05:58 PM

smile
Quote:
I see an Xterra in my future! it looks like the better 'off road' vehicle in its class. GO NISSAN

laugh You get a five smile
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/09/04 11:47 PM

dammit i wish i didnt have to wait till february for this.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/09/04 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by swingline:
dammit i wish i didnt have to wait till february for this.
i kno wat u mean
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/09/04 11:01 AM

I'll get to get a hands on with one at the local state fair. Any requests on pictures?? I'll do my best on getting them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/09/04 02:34 PM

Pics I would like to see

:the SE 17" wheels (or SE equipped with wheels and steps etc.)
:the Desert and or Graphite interior seats (in particular)
:2005 X in Night Armor or Red Brawn color
Posted by: Mimic2k

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/09/04 06:37 PM

Poohdaddy: If you want to see the Night Armor color check out this video Motor Trend Video it's been posted a couple of times, and although it's not confirmed to be the Night Armor Color it's definitely not black. Look at the parts where it's being shown at the show, and then compare it to when it's driving through the snow, i'm almost positive that they're two different colors (Look at the contrast of the Side Mouldings, on the black it shows more, and on the Night Armor it seems to blend in a bit more).

My guess is that it's Night Armor because it looks fairly close to what the pictures show on Nissanusa.com when you build one.

Either way I really like how it looks, not black, but dark grey [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/09/04 11:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by hattrik21:
I'll get to get a hands on with one at the local state fair. Any requests on pictures?? I'll do my best on getting them.
id like to see some pics of the dash,the interior door panels, the back cargo folded down and up position if you can. the pictures of the 05 interior ive seen are said to be preproduction parts or something and they all seem like very cheap plastic. i'd like to see pics of the final vehicle parts
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/09/04 12:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by hattrik21:
I'll get to get a hands on with one at the local state fair. Any requests on pictures?? I'll do my best on getting them.
i guess mainly we all would like to see interior pics. dash, door panels, and cargo area are sumthin i would liek to see if u can.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/09/04 01:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by hattrik21:
I'll get to get a hands on with one at the local state fair. Any requests on pictures?? I'll do my best on getting them.
I would like to see some exterior pics... Just to check for any changes. Thank you!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/09/04 04:34 PM

where are the pics???
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/09/04 08:48 PM

What? Plenty scattered through all 40-some pages of this topic, most in the first 10. The link to the ones I took is on page 11.
Of course, plenty of pics at www.nissanusa.com and http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/index.shtml
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/09/04 08:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
What? Plenty scattered through all 40-some pages of this topic, most in the first 10. The link to the ones I took is on page 11.
Of course, plenty of pics at www.nissanusa.com and http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/index.shtml
i believe he was refering to the guy who said he would take pics of the new x at the county fair
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/10/04 06:51 PM

you guys wana see some pix of the 05 you need to go to the NCCX thread and look at the xterra challenge weekend pictures! we got a hands on look at it!! sooooo fuxxxn nice. the rep lady said it was a pre-production model and that there were a few things that would change befoe they came out but all in all it would be the same!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/10/04 11:35 PM

if only the interior was a bit nicer and modern like the pathfinder ..
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/10/04 09:29 PM

Why? Buy a Pathfinder if you want that froo-froo stuff...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/10/04 12:10 AM

why the hell wouldn't you enjoy something that looks good... how would you like driving in a subaru baja?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/10/04 04:34 PM

anybody noticed the changes in the grill of the 05 X, I think it looks much better now.

Dark grey grill! and dark grey skid!
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/10/04 04:08 PM

Quote:
Originally snowboardguy:
i guess mainly we all would like to see interior pics. dash, door panels, and cargo area are sumthin i would liek to see if u can.
Quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
where are the pics???
You mean like these that were posted back in June?

Click for 2005 X pics

Amazing what searching “2005 pics” will come up with
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/10/04 07:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ramness:
Quote:
Originally snowboardguy:
[b] i guess mainly we all would like to see interior pics. dash, door panels, and cargo area are sumthin i would liek to see if u can.
Quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
where are the pics???
You mean like these that were posted back in June?

Click for 2005 X pics

Amazing what searching “2005 pics” will come up with[/b]
we were refering to a previous post. the guy said he was going to get a chance to see the new x in person at a state fair. we wanted to see if anything changed since nissan have said that many parts of the x that were being shown are preproduction parts.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/10/04 08:31 AM

Maybe he was lying (the guy of the state fair).

Or he forgot his camera or something.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/10/04 07:55 PM

yea proabably, got us all excited for nothing.

anyone know if the 05 will be displayed anywhere near los angeles anytime soon? i'd really like to check it out in person.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/10/04 12:18 AM

^I second that
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/10/04 03:02 PM

The New Pathfinder is now in production, look at www.nissanUSA.com it looks nice, but I'll wait for the X!

RC8
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/10/04 03:33 PM

I will definitely go for the Pathfinder SE Offroad if it comes with a Manual Transmission. Too bad!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/10/04 03:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
I will definitely go for the Pathfinder SE Offroad if it comes with a Manual Transmission. Too bad!
So buy an Xterra instead - better offroad and it has a 6-spd manual. It's cheaper and looks better, too. wink
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/10/04 08:56 PM

Quote:
So buy an Xterra instead - better offroad and it has a 6-spd manual. It's cheaper and looks better, too.
You're definitely correct, pnwbeers. X definitely looks better. However, I've been driving a Pathfinder so long, and I also enjoy a little bit of the froo-froo stuffs like a power sunroof & leather. Plus a 7-seater would be ideal for me.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/10/04 09:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
You're definitely correct, pnwbeers. X definitely looks better. However, I've been driving a Pathfinder so long, and I also enjoy a little bit of the froo-froo stuffs like a power sunroof & leather. Plus a 7-seater would be ideal for me.
Pussy laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/10/04 04:49 PM

X is better than the pathy. Period.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/10/04 04:58 PM

05 pathfinder looks like crap. the interior is quite neat though.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/10/04 06:07 PM

get the LE for $35,550 and take it off-roading. dont worry about the leather interior.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/10/04 09:03 AM

How do you guys think the '05 Xterra's gas mileage will compare to the '05 Pathfinders?

I think the 4x2 Pathfinder is 16/23....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/10/04 09:30 AM

I think the engine is pretty much the same, but the size/weight of X might be giving it a little better gas mileage.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/10/04 10:10 AM

16/23 for the 4x2 05 Pathy, vs. 15/21 for the 4x4.
04 Pathfinder w/ the 240 hp 3.5L version of the same (VQ) engine was rated at 16/21 (4x2) and 15/19 (4x4) vs. the 180 hp VG-engined 04 Xterra's 17/20 and 16/20 (automatic).
Interesting that with the curb weights for comparble 04 model Pathfinder and SE-trim Xterra are within a passengers-worth of each other, yet with a far less powerful, older engine design without the variable intake and timing of the VQ, the Xterra was still within 1 MPG of the Pathfinder.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/10/04 12:54 AM

jus curious to kno if anyone has actually placed an order for the 05 X?
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/10/04 07:06 AM

Not possible...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/10/04 02:53 PM

Some employees of nissan already have new pathys and Xterras. They're "test driving" them. somebody knows one of these guys?
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 09:30 AM

Ok everyone. Here are a few pics from the 05 at the Texas State Fair.


Xterra 4x4 selector.

A/C Controls.

Backend shot.

Ceiling anchor. I assume for baby seats.

Center console.

Center cup holder.

SWXC Club sticker smile
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 09:30 AM


Cluthc bypass switch.

Console.

Dash area.

Front Door.

Map pocket. Both front doors have this. It appears the they could also hold a soda.

Drivers seat.

Engine
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 09:32 AM






More engine







Frounty 4x4 switch and goodies. I'm assuming the same switchs will be in the X.
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 09:33 AM


Fronty auto tranny. I'm sure the X will look similar.

Fronty switchs again.

instrument cluster.

Hood raised.

Mirror control. Clutch bypass.

Rear left trunk.

Rear right trunk.
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 09:34 AM


Rear seat.

Seat bely adjuster.

Seat fabric. Seems durable.

Rear seat folder down
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 09:35 AM


Steering wheel.

Turn signal.

Visor extender. Both driver and passenger have this.

Wiper control.
Posted by: Rickster43

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 09:53 AM

WOW...Words can't describe the '05 X...Looks Awesome, inside and out...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 11:53 AM

niiiiice...thanks for the pics man
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 12:12 PM

sweet! you came through, awesome man [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 01:41 PM

OHHHH!!!!! THAT'S GREAT!!!!! I'm in love with this truck. I hope it to be tested in consumer reports soon.
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 02:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by R C 8:
OHHHH!!!!! THAT'S GREAT!!!!! I'm in love with this truck. I hope it to be tested in consumer reports soon.
Don't count on it for I'd say a month to month and a half. The one I saw was still a preproduction and they still haven't been put into production mode for them yet. I believe he said the one I took pics of was the same one used in the publicity photos on nissannews.com.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 05:34 PM

IS it just me, or is that blue interior the worst...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 05:51 PM

Was the SWXC sticker your doing, Dan?

Nice touch!

laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 06:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Poohdaddy:
IS it just me, or is that blue interior the worst...
i agree. god awful color!
Posted by: hattrik21

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 07:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by goofiefoot:
Was the SWXC sticker your doing, Dan?

Nice touch!

laugh
Actually that was Scott. He even gave a few to some nissan VP or something and he put one on the 04 they had in the covered building.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/04 08:09 PM

anyone know if the 05 X comes with tweeters? from the collection of pictures i have, online, and on this thread, i cant tell if it has tweeters on teh front doors or somewhere else.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/10/04 08:09 PM

I don't know.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/10/04 10:11 AM

That was very helpful. Hey, I don't know either!!!

Can't say as I've seen any on the A-pillars, dash, or doors of any of the pics so far...

Brent
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/10/04 03:46 PM

i want to see one of these in person dammit!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/10/04 04:34 PM

This last X seems to be OK, But I like way more the yellow one of the xterra championship. Because it has darker grill.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/10/04 04:58 PM

yellow is gross. if i ever drove anything yellow there better be retards in it and me hating my job.
Posted by: CheetaraX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/10/04 09:22 AM



No longer my favorite color. Could be better with front and rear bumpers and a lift with dark rims but we will have to see.

So much room to trim for larger tires
Posted by: superjens

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/10/04 09:50 AM

You know, I'm still hoping Nissan takes me up on my suggestions. I still think Real Camo would be a great seller.



If not, Full Metal Plating is my second choice, guaranteed not to lose this one in the parking lot.



DJs and ravers around the world will rejoice at the new Urban Scrawl colors, factory installed underbody lights not shown.



Of course the rice burner crowd will swoon over their new Blended Fusion mix.



Shit, almost forgot this exciting new addition, Color Blind! Designed to fool radar traps, it's dimpled surface actually lowers the drag coefficient by .13 nanohectares!

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/10/04 04:01 PM

I'm having problems to post an image, does it has to be on the web to be posted?
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/10/04 04:07 PM

yes
Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/10/04 11:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by superjens:
You know, I'm still hoping Nissan takes me up on my suggestions. I still think Real Camo would be a great seller.

Seriously, this would be one of the most beautiful X ever. Make envious H2 owners shit their pants.

Perfect expedition vehicle... (though you'd probably get shot in some African territory)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/10/04 02:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RJ:
Quote:
Originally posted by superjens:
[b]You know, I'm still hoping Nissan takes me up on my suggestions. I still think Real Camo would be a great seller.

Seriously, this would be one of the most beautiful X ever. Make envious H2 owners shit their pants.

Perfect expedition vehicle... (though you'd probably get shot in some African territory)[/b]
i dont think anyone with a h2 would care.
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/10/04 03:48 PM

i like the blue seats. Looks like they finalized the iterior parts.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 01:07 PM

I've heard different excellent opinions from different reviewers about the pathfinder, let's hope for the Xterra to be as good or better.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 03:15 PM

I would have been driving a 05 Pathy if it comes with a 5/6 speed manual transmission. So lets hope for the best on the 05 X.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 05:18 PM


The approach angle looks sweet [ThumbsUp] , you may not even be able to improve on that. Of course, I'm all about armor too :rolleyes: The rear doesn't look so hot imo. I wasn't expecting it to be bobbed or anything but they cut the front so close..The back looks like a heavy diaper. Hell, remove the rear side plastic, and wrap it in black 3" tubes. A few inches of lift and some 35's, PA-DOW! my next truck.. Anyone wonder where the slid.. uh, step rails are in the pic? Were they on the one at the fair? BTW, thanks for the pics, laugh , and the blue interior is [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 06:00 PM

where did you get that pic??
Posted by: ButterBean

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 06:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DBAX:

The approach angle looks sweet [ThumbsUp] , you may not even be able to improve on that. Of course, I'm all about armor too :rolleyes: The rear doesn't look so hot imo. I wasn't expecting it to be bobbed or anything but they cut the front so close..The back looks like a heavy diaper. Hell, remove the rear side plastic, and wrap it in black 3" tubes. A few inches of lift and some 35's, PA-DOW! my next truck.. Anyone wonder where the slid.. uh, step rails are in the pic? Were they on the one at the fair? BTW, thanks for the pics, laugh , and the blue interior is [ThumbsDown]
That looks like a really bad photoshop job
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 06:23 PM

the yellow X pic 's from page 45
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 07:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DBAX:

Anyone wonder where the slid.. uh, step rails are in the pic?
looking at the 6 spoke alloy rims on this picture, this is the off-road trim. and the off-road trim does not come with step rails.
Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/10/04 07:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
I would have been driving a 05 Pathy if it comes with a 5/6 speed manual transmission. So lets hope for the best on the 05 X.
Well, now with fully independent suspension, the Pathfinder is in a entirely different group than Xterra. I doubt the new Pathy would have any offroad ability. Unless it has the same forced articulating axels as the Rovers.

BTW, why does that yellow X look like a fatass new Durango? I like the lean and muscular body of the current X a lot better.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/10/04 12:09 PM

yea the front looks a bit too short but the current one looks too long.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/10/04 06:18 PM

Did anybody noticed that when the pathy started production the nissan team putted a new site of it and new pics were unveiled at www.nissannews.com and the same with the new frontier. I can't wait for the X
Posted by: Southernx7

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/10/04 07:06 PM

does the front end resemble a Jeep Liberty or is it just me? i will have to see in person before i fully judge it, but i'm just not into the new styling.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/10/04 02:13 PM

it's just you.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/10/04 03:55 PM



Tell me if that pic doesn't look promising! If the Xterra have the same air below its doors, I'm definetely a new X owner! (if it doesn't I'm going to be a new X owner too, but I'll consider a used one too).
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/11/04 01:26 PM

Well, I have a 2000 XE 3.3L, and I plan on driving it until it doesn't work.....period.....and I simply have to push it into a cavern or crater somewhere and leave it [Too much XOC] ..........but when that sad, sad, day comes, [Crybaby] I can't see me getting anything else but another X........room for my two Rottweilers, room for kids in the back (someday), room for pretty well everything you want.......and more fun then I ever thought......and my wife loves it as much as I do and wants one for herself! laugh From what I read the folks at Nissan seem to have done their homework on how to improve something that is already a solid machine.......cheers to them for providing people like us the best 4X4......period!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/11/04 04:46 PM

You're right, Nissan is going to make a great vehicle... a greater one! (I Hope)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/11/04 08:32 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by snowboardguy:

[qb]

eek Wow, it reminds me of a marshmellow. The older models are nicer in my opinion. But, can't deny the appeal of all the new mechanical improvements.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/11/04 10:17 AM

Nissan at Sema: pics at www.nissannews.com

Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/11/04 11:07 AM

I really like that! Can I have one in Night Armour please...

How did you find those pics? Anyone here going to SEMA, I think its this week! More pics...

Also, it would be my guess that Calmini has a 3" lift on that one already, including sliders and bumper.

[ThumbsUp] I'll take one! Thanks Calmini and Nissan... this is going to be great!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/11/04 11:14 AM

That looks Sweet!!! and look, at the side it clearly says "Calmini", this means that soon we will be seeing after-market pieces.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/11/04 07:39 AM

these are all of the upgrades on that X

CALMINI Xterra
With the rallying cry for Xterra owners being “everything you need, nothing you don’t,” the CALMINI Xterra adds an exclamation point. Built to crush the brush, the CALMINI Xterra includes CALMINI 3-inch Lift System w/sway bar disconnects, CALMINI front winch bumper w/ Warn 9,000 lb. winch, 33-inch Toyo mud terrain tires on 15x8-inch Weld custom alloy wheels, CALMINI full under chassis skid plating, CALMINI Hi-Flow exhaust system and CALMINI tubular Safari roof rack w/PIAA driving lights.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/11/04 03:18 AM

some of the less expensive 05 pathfinders look like someone stole parts of the interior.
Posted by: Marmatt

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/11/04 06:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by contenderv07:
these are all of the upgrades on that X

CALMINI Xterra
With the rallying cry for Xterra owners being “everything you need, nothing you don’t,” the CALMINI Xterra adds an exclamation point. Built to crush the brush, the CALMINI Xterra includes CALMINI 3-inch Lift System w/sway bar disconnects, CALMINI front winch bumper w/ Warn 9,000 lb. winch, 33-inch Toyo mud terrain tires on 15x8-inch Weld custom alloy wheels, CALMINI full under chassis skid plating, CALMINI Hi-Flow exhaust system and CALMINI tubular Safari roof rack w/PIAA driving lights.
I see a few discrepancies...
Those tires are Toyo Open Country ATs, not MT's.
I don't see an aftermarket Calmini rack, the one pictured looks stock. Also, no PIAA's.
No mention of the rear bumper/ swing away tire carrier?
Hope the skids are legit, though I'd love some to fit the first generation X too.

Maybe the truck described is different than the one pictured? Either way, it's a good looking vehicle. I wonder what they did, if anything, for the R&P steering, I've heard it's an over-complicated PITA. Just my 2 pennies.

-Matt
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/11/04 06:17 AM

yea I just cpoy and pasted from nissannews.com. I didn't get a chance to really look at it
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/11/04 07:08 AM

Maybe it's a little too early, but the new Xterra is now in Consumer Reports Online. For those who don't have a subscription, the picture displayed is this one:



And they have just a few info. they say that it should keep its off-road capability, but be more civilized in the road, they also give the information of the engine and 4-wheel drive sistem.

I can't wait to see at new pictures in Nissan News. They will come with the start of production, just like with the pathy and fronty.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/11/04 06:04 PM

Went to the Seattle International Auto Show today...mainly to see the '05 Xterra. Sadly, we weren't allowed to check out the interior...the bastards. But I did get to take some pictures. Not sure what model this is...S, SE, or OffRoad. Not indication on the back hatch. I wanted the wife to take a picture of me humping the X, but she refused. laugh

BTW, I'm a shitty photographer with an equally shitty 2 megapixed digital camera. So the picture quality sucks. Sue me.







Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/11/04 06:05 PM

A few more....







Posted by: Mobycat

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/11/04 06:32 PM

Maybe it's just me, but that rear quarter looks like ass.
Posted by: PrimeX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/11/04 06:54 PM



Wow, that is seriously fugly.

[ThumbsDown]
Posted by: BlueSky

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/11/04 03:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mobycat:
Maybe it's just me, but that rear quarter looks like ass.
It's not just you. The round indents under the front door handles look goofy too. But...wish I could put the '05 front end on my '02. Oh well.
Posted by: socalpunx

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/11/04 03:17 PM

I just wish I could put the '05 engine in my '01.

The front and rear fenders and wheel wells are HUGE. I dunno, the contrast of the silver and all that black plastic...just doesn't look right.

The rear bumper is about 1/4th of the entire rear end surface area. I know there is a bajillion times more updated technology and features in the new X, and the engine would give me a chubby ,but the bumper and fenders don't hit their mark in their attempt to burly up the X.
Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/11/04 08:13 PM

That piece of plastic trim really looks out of place on the bottom, and that rear door just doesn't look right.

Hopefully it'll look better in person. But I seriously thing Nissan is overdoing some of their new vehicles.
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/11/04 08:04 PM

Bitch, bitch, bitch... It kicks the current one's ass, even if you have some issues with some of the design elements. Even if it were as butt-ugly as the original Aztek, I'd get one...
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/11/04 10:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
The front and rear fenders and wheel wells are HUGE.
They were made larger to allow for larger size tires - something that is bitched about on this and other boards constantly.

Nissan listens, incorporates the desires of the enthusiasts and then gets bitched at because the new vehicle is different

:rolleyes:

Bunch of freakin' old women, I swear.....

here's an idea, withold judgement until you actually see the new X - it really doesn't look that bad in person. I can overlook a few cosmetic blemisihes (will be peeling that logo off the bulge first thing tho!) for all the new goodies that are there (factory rear locker - need I say more?!?!)
Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/11/04 01:20 AM

No one ever bitches about the capabilities of the new X; on or off road, it beats the current gen hands down.

But you'll have to admit that Nissan is going more towards the love or hate look with their new vehicles.

Almost everyone agrees the current X looks good. The current Pathy also looks good, though conservative. The current Fronty looks alright too, though not everyone love it. One thing for sure though, no one HATES the looks of any Nissan till the new Murano, Maxima and Titan came out.

No doubt some will love them, but some can't even look at it. This pretty much goes for all new Nissans except the X-Trail.

A lot of the body panels are more than just functional though. If you just want large fenders to tuck in larger tires, then just enlarge it internally, no need to exaggerate it on the outside like the new X.

I'm not bitching about the X, in fact, I've said many times that I like the vehicle overall, and will probably buy one given enough cash. But the look of the new X no doubt falls into the "love or hate" category.

If you belong to the love type, then good. And maybe you should stop bitching about others that fall into the hate category.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/11/04 06:13 PM

I'm a bit speculative of the reliability of the '05 model. The initial reliability of the Titans and Quests have been horrible. They've attributed it to the new plant they're building this vehicles at, and unskilled new workers. The Pathfinder and Xterra will be built there as well. There's a potential that reliability problems will plague the Xterra also.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/11/04 06:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by hattrik21:
[QB]
Cluthc bypass switch.
Yo what's with that nasty skin? I can see it loosing its tension around the button and it's actually peeling in the back!!!

Also, I'm not a fan of the new door panel. Waaay to simplistic.. And it's ALL esaily scaratchable plastic. It would good to have a cloth insert, to break down that bland surface.
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/11/04 06:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by booggerg:
Yo what's with that nasty skin? I can see it loosing its tension around the button and it's actually peeling in the back!!!
Pre-production interior. I don't know of any 05's that have been shown with final interiors.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/11/04 07:07 PM

hopefully the door panels will be upholstered
Posted by: altima

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/11/04 04:55 PM

That door panel looks like something american engineers would do. Ugly as shit. Only thing the new X has going for it is the 4.0 liter engine, other than that the 00-04"s look better.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/11/04 05:31 PM

Actually, all the new nissan interiors has been shitty. If that door is as we see it, then the Xterra is right up there with them.

THIS IS JUST NAST feels like youre sitting in a cheap european econo box.


Why can't Nissan take a hint from the Honda Element interior? Give us an Xterra with no carpeting!!!!
Posted by: OffroadX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/11/04 08:30 PM

Yeah, the Element interior is sweet, rubber floor, WATERPROOF seats. Nissan missed the boat on that one...

Otherwise, I don't mind a "cheap" interior...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/11/04 10:02 PM

yea the interior is horrible. they need to change it to something like the pathfinder with the better trim
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/11/04 10:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by swingline:
yea the interior is horrible. they need to change it to something like the pathfinder with the better trim
Do you want to pay an extra $5000 for a nice interior that's just going to get dirty ?

The Xterra always was, and still is, a back to basics SUV.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/11/04 04:45 PM

I just found out today that there is going to be a car show in Charlotte,NC at the Convention Center. I plan on going down to see if the new 05 Xterra will be there. :p I went to the web site about the car show and it listed the manufacturers but it did not list the vehicles. If they have one, it will probably just be one of the prototypes and not exactly like the production model though. [Crybaby]
I will check it out and post about it on Sunday night.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/11/04 02:35 PM

I just got back from the Charlotte car show and they had an 05 Xterra on display. Of course they would not let you near it. [Crybaby] They had it roped off and you could not see the inside. The color was a darkish grey-the Nissan help was not sure of the color. I thought it might be the "night armor" color but they could not verify it. All they said was that it was a pre-production color. I have some pictures if anyone is interested or I can e-mail and somebody could post here.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/11/04 03:01 PM

According to the Nissan help at the car show the Xterra will be very similar to the inside of the Frontier (They had an 05 on display). The seats are very nice in comparison to what we have today. The doors are like a rubberized plastic of some sorts. Looks good though. The controls, radio, and shift compartments look nice but not overly fancy. The cargo area will compare to what is offered on the new Pathfinder-no carpet- versatile and easy to clean. I noticed the roof rack was about the same size as it is now and that there was about a good 1" or 1 1/2" on each side of the rack. Showing that the Xterra is definetly wider. Also, the Frontier brochures are showing 265 HP and 284 torque and 6000 lb towing capacity. The Nissan Rep says that the Xterra will be set-up about the same. laugh Although, all they can give out is 250+ and that it looks like the end of Feb before they will be out. Overall the 05 looks are very impressive with subtle changes but keeping the overall looks the same. [Too much XOC]
Posted by: ClaptoVaughn

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/11/04 12:46 AM

Not sure if someone already discussed this or that it's even of importance, but does the 05 Xterra have its second Motor Trend SUV Of The Year award in the bag, or what?

The 2005 has already gone to the LR3, but maybe 2006?
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/11/04 12:55 AM

Probably not. Their award is by model year, and the 2005 Xterra will probably not be eligible for 2006. I doubt [Rainbow] Motor Trend will ever give the SUVOTY award to anything that deserves it based on the last few years. All they care about is luxury.
Posted by: ClaptoVaughn

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/11/04 02:01 AM

By 05 I simply meant that particular generation, not 05 for the 06 Award.

But anyways, I agree on the Motor Trend comment. At least they knew what they were doing in 2000 smile .
Posted by: XOC

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/11/04 03:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ClaptoVaughn:
By 05 I simply meant that particular generation, not 05 for the 06 Award.
Motor Trend only allows new vehicles, or vehicles with a significant upgrade, the 05 Xterra will be neither when their next awards roll around.

If they had any fucking brains, they would wait to do the awards when the year starts, instead of 3 months early.
Posted by: mineralblue

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/11/04 06:33 AM

I read the Motor Trend SUV of the year article... and the tester whined about the Pathfinder's Rugged Trails... how they were they only serious offroad tires among the bunch, but they handled the worst among the bunch as well...

DUH... Motor Trend is missing the point...
I've stopped really caring about the Motor Trend awards.. they reward cushy plush minivans disguised as SUVs... :rolleyes:
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/11/04 06:00 PM

Comman! the LR3's bound to have better off road capability than the Xterra.
Posted by: ButterBean

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/11/04 06:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by booggerg:
Comman! the LR3's bound to have better off road capability than the Xterra.
Nope, and for 45,000 I wouldn't want to test it
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/11/04 09:31 AM

Under the Xterra's Specification page of the nissannews.com website, 6-speed Manual Transmission is available for all models of 05 X. However, when you go "design your Xterra" under the nissanusa.com website, 6-speed Manual Transmission is not available for the SE model. Any idea which is right>
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/11/04 09:33 AM

I'm looking at getting the '05 probably by the end of next year, when they go on sale to get them off the lot for the '06s.
Posted by: Peanut Butter

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/11/04 09:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
Under the Xterra's Specification page of the nissannews.com website, 6-speed Manual Transmission is available for all models of 05 X. However, when you go "design your Xterra" under the nissanusa.com website, 6-speed Manual Transmission is not available for the SE model. Any idea which is right>
They could still be deciding whether there going to offer it. The past trend has been that the only the automatic was offered on the SE.

Since your a Canuck I would wait until the specs are up on the Canadian site. There have been subtle differences in equipment between the US and Canadian versions.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/11/04 06:17 PM

Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/11/04 09:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hamburgler:
The past trend has been that the only the automatic was offered on the SE.
My SE has a 5 speed smile

But your right, the trend for the SE is to be auto only.

I don't know why you would even be considering the SE when the offroad package is sitting there beckoning with all kinds of toys from the factory loving....

In playing with the '05 packages, offroad is the one for me this time!
Posted by: RJ

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/11/04 01:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by booggerg:
Comman! the LR3's bound to have better off road capability than the Xterra.
But with its fancy electronic air suspension, your upgradeability is virtually 0. You're stuck with stock ride height (though bling bling kits will lower it a good few inches), which means no over-sized tires either.

I'd take a Discovery over it any day, simply for the dual solid axles.
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/11/04 03:32 PM

Here are some pics from the SF Auto Show on Fri.
Nothing new, but I got to say the '05 X looks way better in person than from pics I've seen so far. [ThumbsUp]

Click here for album

Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/11/04 06:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CCX:
Here are some pics from the SF Auto Show on Fri.
Great pics - two questions.

(1) they had an exposed engine and you didn't take a picture of the alternator location?!?

(2) was that nav system in the X or the Frontier?
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/11/04 08:38 PM

Quote:
Great pics - two questions.

(1) they had an exposed engine and you didn't take a picture of the alternator location?!?

(2) was that nav system in the X or the Frontier?

I should have labeled that Nav. shot, it's from a Pathy. There is no Nav. system for the X, (yet) a topo one would be too cool, but just the standard is $2K on the Pathfinder. frown

I'll have to look and check my pics about the altenator location (the card is at work, and I'm not). wink
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/11/04 06:28 AM

Pictures from the Charlotte Car Show



Night Armor? - The Reps did not even know what the color was.


Nice Ass! laugh



[Wave]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/11/04 06:47 AM

Interior shots are from the 05 Frontier and according to the Nissan Reps should be the interior that will be in the X. The Cargo picture is from the 05 Pathfinder, which again should be what will be in the X.

Controls

door

seat

cargo area

No more shift lever to engage 4WD
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/11/04 06:53 AM

Exterior looks comparison
2005


My 2003 [Smoking]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/11/04 09:19 AM

Thank you all for the pics!!!
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/11/04 01:52 PM

Quote:
(1) they had an exposed engine and you didn't take a picture of the alternator location?!?
Nissan has pics of the engine on NissanNews- smile

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2005/pathfinder/800px/vq40_fr.jpg

Yep, the alternator is down low. frown
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/11/04 02:04 PM

RC8,

No problem. I just figured out how to host and post pictures. [Freak]

I noticed your question on fuel economy on the 05 Xterra. Based on what I have been able to find out, it looks like the X should get about the same mileage as the Frontier, about 15/21 mpg with an Automatic. The Pathfinder will get about the same with a little more horsepower (270) and weight (4700 lbs) according to Nissan News. The X will have about 265 hp and weigh about 4200 lbs (up from 3900). 85 more horsepower and 300 lbs heavier than my 03 and about the same mpg (or better). Looks like it will be time to trade. cool
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/11/04 02:31 PM

03Xterraman,

Thank you very much for the worries(and the pics(again))

Ok, Now I'm aiming for a 05!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/11/04 12:47 AM

yeye...thanks for all the cool pics. cant really tell about that color. but it looks very nice. i might have to consider that over the super black
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/11/04 06:46 AM

Would February just get here already! For me, I think Christmas comes in Feb. this year! laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/11/04 02:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kung Fu Jedi:
Would February just get here already! For me, I think Christmas comes in Feb. this year! laugh
i totally agree with u on that [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: maximusdelirious

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/12/04 08:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by snowboardguy:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kung Fu Jedi:
[b]Would February just get here already! For me, I think Christmas comes in Feb. this year! laugh
i totally agree with u on that [ThumbsUp] [/b]
Bump!

It's boxyer doesnt seem as smooth from the pictures. will need more come-alongs now as well with higher weight. think they will move the alternator when we soak them all?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/12/04 08:47 AM

Umm...This topic is a sticky at the top of the forum. No need to "bump" :rolleyes: wink
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 09:54 AM

Stolen from here...

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Preview: 2005 Nissan Xterra
by Paul Williams

Austin, Texas - Texas is truck country, and the Nissan Xterra is definitely a "go-anywhere" type of truck. But arriving to find swollen rivers, flooded roads and submerged fields after six days of torrential rain in the Texas Hill country looked too challenging even for an off-roader with 9.5 inches of ground clearance.

Undaunted, Canadian auto writers did get to slosh through water and mud in 2005 Xterras, although a full review including driving impressions will have to wait until January, in anticipation of the vehicle's debut in March, 2005.

In the meantime, here's a preview of what you can expect from the latest Xterra.

Since its introduction in 1999, the Nissan Xterra has successfully maintained its image as a rugged, no-nonsense SUV favoured by an adventurous, younger buyer (post-college; early career, according to Nissan).

With the availability of Nissan's new F-Alpha frame (used in the Pathfinder, Titan and Armada among others) the company is continuing the distinctive Xterra theme for 2005, but based on this common platform.

However, the compact SUV segment is very popular in Canada, where people annually buy 120,000 of them. In order to preserve and grow sales, vehicles in this segment benefit from a strong identity that sets them apart from the competition.

Nissan Canada's marketing director Ian Forsyth says that even though the Xterra is in such a popular category, it has no trouble with identity.

"It's really in a segment of one," he suggests. "We sort of invented this category, and the Xterra really defines the type."

Helping to spread the word, enthusiastic Xterra owners have established clubs, clubs, websites, and events to showcase and feature their favourite vehicle.

Understandably, therefore, the 2005 Xterra doesn't stray from the original theme of affordable off-road capability with no "fluff." Nissan has refined the vehicle, taking advantage of the company's modular truck platform, but doesn't reinvent it.

Consistent with a similar trend throughout in the truck and SUV segment, power is up, as is size. Nissan executives now refer to the Xterra as both a "compact" and a "mid-size," SUV (mid-size is more accurate).

Under the hood, Nissan's VQ-40 V-6 engine takes over as the Xterra powerplant. This engine is designed for truck use, making 265-horsepower at 5,600 r.p.m. and 284 lb.-ft. torque at 4,000 r.p.m. You can match it to a five-speed automatic or new six-speed manual transmission, and tow up to 5,000 lbs.

The F-Alpha architecture upon which the Xterrra is built forms the basis for all of Nissan and Infiniti trucks and SUVs (except the X-trail). The box frame is not the same in every application, however. Depending on the vehicle, it can be shortened, lengthened, widened or made narrower to suit requirements. The use of high tensile and super high tensile steel increases rigidity and reduces frame weight.

The Xterra wheelbase is increased by 51-millimetres over last year's model, its length by 8-mm and height by 30-mm. The truck doesn't look particularly bigger from the outside, but the new structure permits an increase in interior shoulder, hip, leg and headroom for front and rear occupants.

The significant increase in rear seat headroom (58-mm) and legroom (91mm) deserves special mention. Overall, weight is up 74-kilograms to 1,939-1,995 kg, depending upon specification.

Three trim levels are available - S, SE and OR (off-road) - and all are four-wheel drive. The Xterra's part-time 4WD system includes 2WD/4H/4LO modes and an electronically controlled transfer case.

The exterior follows the Nissan truck family's grille and exaggerated fender designs, now unifying the full truck line. For the Xterra, the signature "kicked up" roof continues, and rear bumper sidesteps appear to help accessing the roof-rack with basket.

Another rugged exterior element is the use of fat, BF Goodrich, 265/75R-16 inch tires on six-spoke alloy wheels for the S and OR version. The Xterra SE gets 265/65R-17 inch BF Goodrich "Long Trail" tires 17" alloy wheels.

Xterra's interior features sculpted front bucket seats with available fold-flat capability. The 60/40 split, stadium-style 2nd row seating continues. There is no third-row.

The cargo area uses an easy-clean fibreglass floor and a "utili-track" channel system similar to that found in the truck bed of the Nissan Titan and Frontier. Metal hooks to hang gear and bags are liberally situated, as are bottle containers and storage compartments.

The dashboard features clear instruments and simple controls for the driver, and a dual glove-box that opens up and down to maximize storage space ahead of the front-seat passenger. A Rockford-Fosgate audio system with nine speakers, steering wheel controls and MP3 playback capability is optional.

Standard safety equipment includes anti-lock brakes with four-wheel discs, electronic brake force distribution and a tire pressure monitoring system. Side impact and side curtain airbags are optional.

Vehicle stability control is standard on the SE and OR versions, with the latter including underbody skid plates, a locking rear differential, hill descent control and hill start assist.

Fuel economy is the same or better than the previous model, requiring regular gas.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 09:56 AM

Pics from review above:



Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 09:57 AM

More...




Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 09:59 AM

Even more...



Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 11:37 AM

Nice find. Thanks for the preview and the pics. Still can't wait for the new X to hit the lots!

KFJ
Posted by: buffalo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 01:42 PM

ok, here's my dilemma. I was dead set on trading my 01 for an 05 for the following reasons, increased horsepower, additional space in rear passenger area (getting in and out) better gas mileage, rubberized cargo area and the fact that the rear now folds flat so that I can sleep in my truck at 6"1". after taking ny current X in for service and perusing the new Pathfinder I'm now considering the pathfinder for the following reasons more passenger space. My xterra barely fits our family of 4, increased cargo room and over all good looks. I'm favor the Xterra and the community that comes with it. My deciding factors are going to be horsepower in comparison to my current X, gas mileage in comparison to the new pathfinder, if I can lay down comfortably in the rear, if it has an internal release for the rear hatch and clearance between the Xterra and the pathfinder. As much as I appreciate the ruggedness and places that my current Xterra have taken me, I don't visit them as often as I would like. Ideally I would get both or the Pathfinder now and the Xterra in a few years what do you guys think?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 01:47 PM

Eeek. the new xterra's headlights are waaayy too small. I stand corrected by that statement If you go back n' forth between the X and the armada pic, it looks like the X has a huge forehead!
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 04:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bigbill25:

I really hate the placement and size of the two logo's - those would have to come off... or at least move the Xterra logo to the lower right where it belongs.

Ugh...
Posted by: CCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 05:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DocNo:
Quote:
Originally posted by bigbill25:
[b]
I really hate the placement and size of the two logo's - those would have to come off... or at least move the Xterra logo to the lower right where it belongs.

Ugh...[/b]
I have to agree, I like just about everything on the new X but those badges.
Almost any other placement looks better. confused



Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 09:55 PM

those emblem placements look way too crowded. it makes the bottom right corner seem "heavy". there's already a black handle there.

i think if you just took off the nissan emblem it would look a lot better. the back would seem a lot more simple and plain but i suppose its better than looking awkward.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/12/04 11:00 PM

nice pics.....i believe these are the first pics of the off-road trim. thank u much.

also agree that the emblems on the rear hatch are very awkward looking, i think ima have a clean hatch with mine, or move the X emblem lower right
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/12/04 06:50 PM




SOXC got to test out the 05 X both on road and off...
here are some of our pics...

http://www.muddynissan.com/photos/2005X/
Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/12/04 07:23 PM

That's nice, very nice! Now if Nissan is listening out... wanna come down to Moab, I'll get a crew twice that size and we can do some slick rock test driving!

Very nice... so, what are the comments from those that got to enjoy it?

How does the LSD on all 4 tires perform? How was the locker?

You guys suck! That looks like it was a lot of fun. Thanks for the pixs!!!

Robert and UXOC
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/12/04 04:58 PM

not allowed to say anything till January 1... Nissan has an embargo on all opinions... we were lucky enough to be able to post pics...
Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/12/04 07:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CRAZ4SNO:
not allowed to say anything till January 1... Nissan has an embargo on all opinions... we were lucky enough to be able to post pics...
9 days and counting... hope to get some good info from you guys.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/12/04 09:13 AM

in the mean time sign up on www.SOXC.org and you can see some more pics from that day...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/12/04 05:59 AM

I have to admit, I don't like the front of it, and the lights look to small, and not as nice as the 04 lights, but it does look bigger and more commanding...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/12/04 12:42 PM

Anyone knows how good VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) is for the Manual Transmission?

As VDC won't be available for the Manul Transmission until 2005 April, I don't know if it's worth my while to wait another few months.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/12/04 12:20 PM

Hey Rob, you can Post my pics too if you like. I dont have the room to host them. [Wave]
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/12/04 06:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 92Pathy:
Anyone knows how good VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) is for the Manual Transmission?
To my knowledge, VDC is only available on Automatic tranny's. The prototype '05 build pages on Nissan's web site would let you pick it, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply. Go to a production vehicles build page, like the '05 Fronty and you will see what I mean.
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/12/04 07:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CRAZ4SNO:
in the mean time sign up on www.SOXC.org and you can see some more pics from that day...
As Rob said, we are under an embargo from Nissan Canada and cannot comment on the 05, but we were lucky enough to have it for just over a week to view and test drive.

We setup a few coffee meets and had memebrs come out to see it and test drive it, then we setup one day of light wheeling to test the new features such as the locker and hill descent control.

We have a member of SOXC who is a reporter for the Toronto Star newspaper. We had a photographer out with us and some pics, as well as a group pic of some of us will be front page of the Wheels section of the paper on Jan 1st. Pretty cool!!

We've had other perks too, but also can't dicuss until after Jan 1st.

Here are a few more pics I had taken:

More here too: CLICK ME







Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/12/04 05:07 AM

\'05 Owners Manual Available...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/12/04 07:44 AM

I like these shots:





Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/12/04 07:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bigbill25:
Even more...


Looks like you got yourself an Armada there.... :rolleyes:
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/12/04 05:13 AM

It seems to me that this is the S model. I think I saw where this was the "lowest" model, and it STILL looks like its kicking ass [LOL] damn I can't wait for it. Anyone have a gues on how much the 04s will drop in price when these come out???
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/12/04 06:57 AM

I think it looks very urbanized kinda ugly. What stuff were they smoking when they put the nissan and xterra emblems there.
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/12/04 08:30 AM

The model we (SOXC) test drove was an Offroad Package model, but because it is a prototype it was missing a few things like the body side mouldings and OFFROAD badging, etc, that's all.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 31/12/04 01:50 PM

here's me making a big splash with the 05 X...

Photography courtesy of Critters.





Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 02:18 AM

Here is a link to the story in the Toronto Star newspaper after we spent a week with the 05:

CLICK ME

The actual story in the paper includes photos. I'll scan them and post em too later.
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 05:58 AM

OK you guys suck!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 06:11 AM

Going the Xterra mile
Off-road truck club members find lots to love about Nissan's revamped SUV, coming here in March

A week of hard driving finds trail behaviour is vastly improved — more power and less getting stuck

STAN JOSEY
TORONTO STAR

The end of the road can't come soon enough for members of the Southern Ontario Xterra Club.

Most weekends they load their bikes, boats, boards or skis on the roof rack and head for the places an ordinary vehicle won't take them.

Their passion — the chunky and spunky Xterra, Nissan's one-off adventure SUV — has undergone a major face-lift for 2005.

That worried some of them — including this writer — so I asked if club members could try out the new model as soon as possible. Nissan came up with a pre-production prototype, a rare privilege indeed.

"Get it good and dirty" was the assignment from the editor.

So for a week, various members of the club poked and prodded the new vehicle, and tested the limits of its off-road and on-road performance.

The truck, which will be unveiled publicly for the first time at the Montreal and Toronto auto shows, ate up about 2,000 kilometres of highway and off-road trails, with hardly a notice from other drivers — even non-club Xterra drivers.

That's because the new truck, while radically improved and cosmetically upgraded, still looks like an Xterra.

But it acts a lot differently. Introduced in the 2000 model year, it was immediately an attention getter, with its beefy aluminum roof racks, raised stadium seating in the back and the hump on the back hatch that holds the first aid kit.

The new "X" is slightly larger inside and outside, has a much larger engine and an off-road driving package that won raves from seasoned off-roaders.

The new Xterra, which will go into production later this month in Smyrna, Tenn., will be the latest in a series of trucks to be mounted on Nissan's new, light and tough F-Alpha truck frame.

When it hits showrooms sometime in March it is going to cause quite a stir, because the new X has gotten a lot prettier, a lot more powerful, and is priced in the mid-$30,000 bracket. So it's doable for the young adventurer or the soccer mom who wants a ride with attitude.

"I was really worried it wouldn't look at all like the old one," said Jaimie MacPherson, founder of the SOXC.org website.

"I'm glad they have kept the style cues such as the roof rack and the bump on the back. My Xterra (a 2000 model) will still look like the new Xterra."

But the similarities end there.

Club members were impressed with new pedal responsiveness at all speeds attached to the new 4.0-litre, 265 horsepower engine — up from 180 horsepower.

"I can't believe the extra power," said Leslie North, who got a 2004 yellow X as a Christmas present last year. "The only thing it doesn't do is fly."

Garnett Davey of Whitby also felt the difference as he tested the truck on Duham back roads.

"When you give it the gas, it goes," he said. "I normally would have had to drop the gears in my manual to get that kind of acceleration."

And it didn't take long to get the truck good and dirty, wet and full of snow.

On the first night, somewhere in the GTA, Rick Almeida of Markham waved goodbye from a Tim Hortons and came back 15 minutes later with a very dirty SUV.

He said he made a wrong turn onto a construction site and immediately got the front end stuck in a mud hole.

"I was about to call for a tow but I hit the `diff lock' switch and out she went... Amazing."

As for me, I don't exactly fit the target market of 20-something surfers and kayakers, but I haven't had so much fun in a vehicle since the drive-in movies in the 1960s.

When I first bought the old truck two years ago, women used to flag me down at traffic lights and say "nice car."

"Thanks, but it's a truck," I'd say, and be on my way.

As I test-drove the new silver version on my job for the Star and on several short trips on family business, it didn't attract as much attention as my old X.

The truck has not yet been seen on showroom floors and that may be the reason it got little attention.

The big test would come when we took the truck to an abandoned gravel pit, not far outside the GTA.

More than a dozen SOXC members put the truck though its paces climbing hills, crawling over washouts and surfing through a big water hazard.

Pete Lush of Guelph said he couldn't believe the "phenomenal traction control" as he crawled the truck up a steep, snow-covered gravel slope and then flipped on the hill descent to go back down. It safely guides the truck down any slope alternately using the four-wheel ABS discs and some throttle application

Lush called the rear differential locker "awesome," adding "my truck never would have got up this hill."

The new truck is a little bigger inside. Marty Sjoerd, a tall guy with a tall truck, was pleasantly surprised his spiked blonde hair didn't hit the headliner.

Extending the rear cargo area forward now is a lot easier with a rear seat bottom flipping forward and the seat back folding flat. The back cargo area has been covered with a hard material to make it easier to clean.

Kristoff Lucyk didn't have kids when he bought his first X, but now he appreciates the wider opening rear door, which will be great for loading and unloading his daughter's car seat.

And the 60-40-split rear seat makes it possible to leave a baby carrier installed while flipping down the other side of the seat to handle longer cargo.

"I originally purchased an Xterra to get away from the normal temptations of muscle cars and speed," he said, "and this new truck doubles nicely as an off-road giant and a family shopper."

Exterior visual changes include bigger fender flares, bigger windows all around and a move of the now-larger Nissan emblem from the centre of the rear hatch to the right side.

It still has its beefy looking brushed aluminum roof rack but the front basket has been enclosed — "It'll make a good wine cooler," one club member remarked.

This streamlining of the front of the signature roof rack has almost eliminated the inside wind noise that required a lot of radio volume to mask in the old truck.

Tubular side step rails, which dedicated off-roaders always remove, were not included on the offroad model that we tested.

Suspension improvements and a longer wheelbase have given the truck a lot more stability and likely a lower centre of gravity, which decreases the feeling in some SUVs that they might role over in a tight turn.

"This vehicle will appeal to soccer moms for the space and will make them feel more secure that it can go more places than other SUVs. The vehicle's climb and descent is amazing," said John Marechal.

There were still some things that members didn't like. They found it strange engaging four-wheel high and low with a dash-mounted knob instead of the clunky old console-mounted shifter.

Cat Phillip, who used to challenge the muck in Rovers in Australia, found the nose of the new Xterra too flat.

"The grille doesn't end where the bumper starts," she said, wondering how the plastic front would fare in a small crash.

I found that the bigger engine idles more smoothly than the old one and by my rough calculation gets about the same gas mileage as the old powerplant

To my aging back, the smoother ride was just fine, and I enjoyed the throaty purr of the engine both at idle and during acceleration.

The new model will creep up from the mid-$30,000 price tag of the previous model, said Pete Bedrosian, Nissan Canada's product manager for trucks.

"It will be a little more expensive, but not $3,000 more," he said.

So overall, club members were both pleased and relieved by this latest generation of the truck that helped rejuevenate Nissan at the end of the `90s.

It's been enlarged and given a softer profile, with a few new toys inside and under the hood.

It should attract a lot of return buyers who want to get to the hills a little faster and in more comfort.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 07:46 AM

Quote:
When it hits showrooms sometime in March it is going to cause quite a stir
??? MARCH ??? the representative of my local dealer told me JAN!
Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 08:41 AM

Awesome right up! I believe it will hit the US showrooms in February... can't wait.

I did a quick write up on the Fronty in another thread and agree with the comment about the engine. At any speed, it has plenty of power - which is nice!

I CAN'T WAIT!
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 11:00 AM

These are a couple shots of me going up and coming down a nice steep slipery ravine, then coming down a nice off camber rutted ravine (testing the locker), followed by a hugh downhill descent (testing the hill descent control.)





As mentioned, we were not allowed to comment on performance, capability, or opinions until after today when the story in the Toronto Star was run.

As most of you who wheel know, pictures do not do terrain justice when wheeling. The ravines I crawled up through with the 05 I would not have gotten through in my X without the locker, so the traction the locker provided was great (as most of you know who run ARB lockers.) The hugh hill I came down was rutted, steep, and very slick. One of the guys spun his truck around and almost rolled it at the top. The 05 with the HDC engaged just crawled down it like a champ, nice and controlled, although it is noisy when working that hard (it was a pretty damn big hill!)

Some of my fav changes:
- the engine rocks! (obviously)
- the dual stage throttle control was great for crawling (not as jerky if you hit the gas)
- that said, I'm not big on the electronic vs cable engaged (could be pricy to repair)
- interior is much nicer and provides a little more room; controls are well placed
- love the rear cargo area changes (tracked adj floor tie downs and added tie downs in back of rear seats)
- rear seats don't remove to fold down (better IMO) and fold nice and flat
- front passenger seat folds ahead flat
- I personally like the new styling EXCEPT the larger wheel flairs and larger rear first aid hump

Here are a couple pics of the actual story from the Toronto Star (I'm looking in the rear cargo area in the first page and driving through the little ravine at right on the second page):



Posted by: superjens

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 01:16 PM

FUCKING AWESOME

Congrats to you guys for getting in on the press action, way to go! [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: panhandleX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 01:25 PM

I am curious as to where they are going to be putting the sub in the Rockford Fosgate package. Same placement as in 03 and 04's?
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 01:59 PM

FYI - Stan Josey, who wrote the article (and is a reporter for the Toronto Star) is also an X owner and a member of SOXC... [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Canadian5150

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/01/05 03:12 PM

Awesome is the understatement !!! cool cool cool

We were very privliged to be able to see let alone drive the new '05. It was both benificial to the Club as well to Nissan Canada !!! Two Thumbs Up for them !!! [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]

I'm in the pic as well - on the roof !!! [Uh Oh !]

The Sub is located under the drivers seat - which allows the cargo area to ... carry cargo !!!

Overall a great new Vehicle to keep the Market Fresh !!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/01/05 04:41 AM

FYI...

Canadian 5150 is on the roof...
Xcited is looking under the hatch...
CRAZ4SNO (me) is testing out the rear bumper step...
Stan (the writer) is driving it in the interior pic...

The engine rocks... turn off VDC and you can peel her real easy!

Diff lock can get you out of many sticky situations...

and the seats... where can i get some for my 2000? they rock... with adjustable lumbar support... way more comfortable.

this truck is very capable, and with it being the same front end as the titan... think of the lift possibilities!!! (same underneath)
Posted by: Ramness

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/01/05 05:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by panhandleX:
I am curious as to where they are going to be putting the sub in the Rockford Fosgate package. Same placement as in 03 and 04's?
I posted a picture of it in my pictures from the plant tour but it seems the post has been deleted.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/01/05 08:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CRAZ4SNO:
Going the Xterra mile

The new model will creep up from the mid-$30,000 price tag of the previous model, said Pete Bedrosian, Nissan Canada's product manager for trucks.

"It will be a little more expensive, but not $3,000 more," he said.
Is that in Canadian currency? I thought the price would be comparable to todays prices. (as seen on the "Build your Xterra" on the nissanusa.com)
Posted by: DocNo

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/01/05 09:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 03Xterraman:
Is that in Canadian currency?
Yup, threw me too at first until I realized the article was from Canada.
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/01/05 01:17 PM

[LOL] Yeah, that's CDN $$...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/01/05 10:56 PM

Anyone knows what this is about? 2005 Xterra Brochure???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...sspagename=WD1V
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/01/05 09:51 AM

Anyone know how accurate the prices are in the "Build Your X-Terra" section at the Nissan Site for the 2005 X? Has pricing been finalized yet? If it's accurate, I'm going to be very happy come Feb/Mar. smile

KFJ
Posted by: maximusdelirious

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/01/05 01:36 PM

[Crybaby] [Crybaby] [Crybaby] [Crybaby] [Crybaby] [Crybaby] [Crybaby]

I WANT MY 2005 XTERRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW Did they ever get this guy off the roof? He looks like he wasn't going ANYWHERE but home with the vehicle.

Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/01/05 04:20 PM

Hehe... no, he's STILL on the roof back at the Nissan Canada Tech Centre still trying to figure out how the hell to get down! [LOL]

Another thing we forgot to mention is that after our week with the 05, Peter B (the Product Planning Manager for Nissan) invited all of us over to the Nissan Tech Centre for a "Tech Session" where we got to see and go over all of the 3 gens of 05 Xterra prototypes, got to talk and ask questions, and had lots of pizza and drinks! It was great!

In regards to the pic of us in the paper, here is a funny one that one of our members posted on our board showing "What we were REALLY thinking:" [LOL]

(Sorry for the size, but you souldn't read it otherwise...)

Posted by: BOOM

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/01/05 04:17 AM

Around 1am Wisconsin time this morning I was watching the speed channel or something and they had the NEW XTERRA on there... looked alright and all.. That goofy top lock on the basket ... I liked the back step on there was alright right looking... then the handle for opening the hatch looked weird on the right hand side more.. and the inside looked sweet lots of room .

Over all it looks nice but I would have to wait like 5 more years to get one maybe or till mine DIES OUT<< -- what ever is 1st...

Talk to you later...

[Wave] [Wave]
BOOM
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/01/05 08:32 PM

may I just stop and say something completely off-topic? (or is it?)

Longest.

Thread.

EVAR!!! :p

Back to the Xterra. Hate the dial for 4wd, LOVE the 6 speed 350Z based transmission,(Automatics are [Rainbow] ) like the 250HP bit, hate everything else, especially the electronic throttle.
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/05 04:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nhXterraGuy85:
may I just stop and say something completely off-topic? (or is it?)

Longest.

Thread.

EVAR!!! :p

Back to the Xterra. Hate the dial for 4wd, LOVE the 6 speed 350Z based transmission,(Automatics are [Rainbow] ) like the 250HP bit, hate everything else, especially the electronic throttle.
FWIW, the Service Mgr at a local dealer that sponsors our club said that all the complaints about the dial in 4wd (vs lever) is a pile a hooey. He said in all his years with Nissan he has NEVER seen a problem with ANY of their e-controlled 4wd controls.

On another note, FYI - we were told by nissan that the HDC on the 05 is a VERY advanced and complex system, far superior to that in ANY of its rivals (4runner, etc).
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/05 10:05 AM

so sad that none of those VDC, HDC or HSA will be available for the Xterra with manual tranny.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/05 11:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Xcited:
Quote:
Originally posted by nhXterraGuy85:
[b]may I just stop and say something completely off-topic? (or is it?)

Longest.

Thread.

EVAR!!! :p

Back to the Xterra. Hate the dial for 4wd, LOVE the 6 speed 350Z based transmission,(Automatics are [Rainbow] ) like the 250HP bit, hate everything else, especially the electronic throttle.
FWIW, the Service Mgr at a local dealer that sponsors our club said that all the complaints about the dial in 4wd (vs lever) is a pile a hooey. He said in all his years with Nissan he has NEVER seen a problem with ANY of their e-controlled 4wd controls.

On another note, FYI - we were told by nissan that the HDC on the 05 is a VERY advanced and complex system, far superior to that in ANY of its rivals (4runner, etc).[/b]
I don't doubt that it works properly (after all, this is Nissan we're talking about, not Ford) but it's still a wussy thing. Same for the ETC - I'm sure it works fine, but the throttle has no feel. I have always preferred cable throttle. Oh well, I know I'm fighting a losing battle, so no point in bitching about it I guess. Neither of my vehicles have it, so that's all that matters for now...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/05 01:20 PM

I talked to my buddy at the plant today. The '05 X production started this moring...in the show rooms in a couple of weeks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/05 01:59 PM

Excellent news! Can't wait to see one and take if for a test drive. Not long now.
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/05 03:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nhXterraGuy85:
I don't doubt that it works properly (after all, this is Nissan we're talking about, not Ford) but it's still a wussy thing. Same for the ETC - I'm sure it works fine, but the throttle has no feel. I have always preferred cable throttle. Oh well, I know I'm fighting a losing battle, so no point in bitching about it I guess. Neither of my vehicles have it, so that's all that matters for now...
To the majority of buyers, these new features will be welcomed. Keep in mind that those of us that wheel and still adhere to the "keep it simple" ideology are very few in the big picture. However, I hear what your saying. Personally for me, the two bonuses are the engine and the rear locker, the rest I don't care about.

I do agree with you on the e-throttle control though. When we were test driving it, it just didn't have that "feel". Oh well, like you said, there's not much we can do about that.

Overall, I think this redesign will do/sell well to the general public.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/05 05:44 PM

I have to agree with Pete... the e-throttle removes that feel of the road...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/01/05 07:33 AM

here is a link to the local newspapers coverage of the great unveiling http://dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050107/NEWS01/501070322/1002
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 07/01/05 09:38 PM

Hi Res pic of the first 05 production X here:
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/jobone.shtml
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/01/05 06:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by akp:
Hi Res pic of the first 05 production X here:
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/jobone.shtml
Damn, I was hoping for Night Armor color. Guess I'll have to wait for the second one! [Crybaby]
Posted by: blizzard

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/01/05 08:33 AM

Saw a new Nissan add on TV a couple of nights ago,
has the 05 X in yellow. Pretty quick shot but looked good as far as I could tell. Need to see it in the flesh ..........
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/01/05 07:50 PM

I'm sure most of yall know this, but Nissan has updated the X section of their website.
Posted by: Xcited

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/01/05 08:31 AM

SOXC got a mention in another newspaper (albeit brief, but cool none the less.)

It was in an article written by Bob English for the Globe and Mail "Megawheels" section. On page G15, included in the 05 Xterra writeup is a mention of SOXC! Cool!

Here is a link to a scan of the page I scanned this morning:
www.xterraxcursions.com/soxc/globeandmail.jpg

Here is the excerpt that mentions us (second last paragraph toward bottom):

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/01/05 09:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by akp:
I'm sure most of yall know this, but Nissan has updated the X section of their website.
thanks for the tip. they have more nice pics and stuff
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/01/05 06:43 PM

can anyone get the picture of the muddy silver 05? the one in the gallery on the website? i want to use that one as my wallpaper, but i can't seem to get a good pic of it. anyone good with photoshop? any help would be nice

thanks in advance
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/01/05 11:26 AM

another new article online
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2005/0501_nissan_xterra/
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/01/05 01:18 PM

Write-up also in FOUR WHEELER MAGAZINE
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 26/01/05 08:33 PM

thanks for the link
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/01/05 09:09 AM

I'm sorry to see the sheet metal "character line" that connects the wheel arches on 00-04 X's is not part of the new design.

I'm also not a fan of the new squared wheel arches. Glad to see the Pathy got rounded ones...

I keep thinking I'm going to start liking the angular fender flairs but it ain't happening for me. I despise the style of the current Chevy full size trucks - except the Hummer. The square fender flairs don't work for the 4Runner either, in my opinion either.

I do like the face of the 05 X much better though. Can I retro fit that on my 02? laugh

Overall still a great looking truck - except for the rediculous backside badging. [ThumbsDown]
Posted by: KCX

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/02/05 06:37 PM

This may have been already asked, but where is the alternator mounted on the '05?

Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/02/05 08:06 PM

It appears to be in the same spot as in previous years... very low and toward the front/passenger side. It would have been nice to get that thing up higher, but oh well.

Just play nice and it will be fine. Or give it a good bath after playing dirty!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/02/05 09:49 PM

Here's a shot of the new x's ready to hit the trail

haven't seen any loaded on carriers yet
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/02/05 10:14 PM

eek eek eek OMG eek eek eek

GIMME THE DAMN KEYS ALREADY!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 05:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by xearth:
Here's a shot of the new x's ready to hit the trail

haven't seen any loaded on carriers yet
2 questions:
What does that sticker say on the back window of the yellow X?

Does anyone have access to an FBI photo lab so we can digitally enhance the picture and read the MSRP sticker on the white one (or is that just glare or a build sheet or something)?

Thanks. wink
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 06:31 AM

We had a preview of one ('05) at our club meeting on Friday the 4th. It had the stickers on it (which also tie into the new advertising campaign). They basically point out the new 265 hp/ 284 torque features. They've actually refreshed the advertising campaign and come up with some pretty good stuff, you'll see a lot of the "X" in the new ads. Not the truck but the actual letter X. The dealer operations mgr. out here who works with our club to keep us abreast of things, says he thought it was cool we refer to the trucks as, "the X", and they've integrated that into the advertising. You'll see; two kayak paddles, two band-aids (my favorite), two ski poles, etc, crossed up like an X. There's also this great picture of a night armor colored truck with a kayak on the roof, very cool pic. I need one for my garage...
smile
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 08:43 AM

this new campain stuff seems cool. i'm looking forward to it. but it's just gonna make me want an 05 even worse
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 01:51 PM

they're on the trucks

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 02:29 PM

Cool!
Tell 'em to get those silly Altima's off the truck and LOAD IT UP WITH X's!!!!
Posted by: fastdrmr

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 05:54 PM

So it looks like the OR will come will a nice spare, rather than a steelie!

Are they here yet?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 07:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jdr01930:
2 questions:
What does that sticker say on the back window of the yellow X?

Does anyone have access to an FBI photo lab so we can digitally enhance the picture and read the MSRP sticker on the white one (or is that just glare or a build sheet or something)?

Thanks. wink

Cant tell wat the sticker on the yellow X says, but it does look like its a red 'X'...cool.

dont think its a glare, cuz the black(or night armor) X next to it has the same sheet of paper, also the 1st yellow X has it too if u look closer.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 09:04 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/05 09:12 PM



sorry guys...best I could do here..no crimelab enhancements
XE
Posted by: Xtasy

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/02/05 10:10 AM

At our recent meeting of the AZXC we got a sneak peak at a Preproduction '05 X used for photo ops and ads. I've posted some photo's from the examination which include lots of undercarriage shots. Enjoy



Our meeting was sponsored by Peoria Nissan and they generously provided giveaways, you'll see them at the end of the gallery. Thanks to the Folks at Peoria Nissan.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/02/05 04:31 PM

thanks for the link and pics
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/02/05 08:59 PM

Ok, just got back from the crime lab! wink
Here's pic of sticker from the 05 X I bought a few days ago. It's reduced to 800x600 for this forum.

For full size, totally readable version (with and without flash), check out these links:

http://www.carpics.webhop.net/xstickerflash.JPG
http://www.carpics.webhop.net/xsticker.JPG

Posted by: Todrick

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/02/05 10:50 AM

you do realize you just gave the entire world your VIN
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/02/05 11:44 AM

And anyone that wants it in his area can just read it off his dashboard, so what?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/02/05 12:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Todrick:
you do realize you just gave the entire world your VIN
Yeah. Who cares?
I am a little worried though, that when I'm driving around, people might see my license plate number laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 21/02/05 12:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Todrick:
you do realize you just gave the entire world your VIN
Nissan beat me to it. All VIN's are posted in the dealer inventory/seach section of the website. I knew the VIN before I even saw the truck.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/04/05 03:39 PM

Here's a pic of
my new 05 XE .
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/04/05 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SJD:
Here's a pic of
my new 05 XE .
I think you mean 'SE'
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/04/05 08:04 PM

Oops, another good reason not to drink and drive!
Posted by: maximusdelirious

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 03/05/05 07:28 AM

mpg first trip 22.22, second with son at the wheel a half day 16.58.
on road


off road
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/05/05 09:05 PM

Location: Some cottage road north of Lake Joseph near Humphrey in Muskoka, Ontario. Cottage Country.


Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/05/05 04:04 AM

This is a shot of my brand spanking new Xterra...shot here along the Brownsville Ship Channel...some real good trails here with a good mix of dry and wet terrain.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 31/05/05 05:46 AM

Nice. How come your profile says Texas, but your front plate has a big Canadian flag?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/06/05 06:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by max6spd:
Nice. How come your profile says Texas, but your front plate has a big Canadian flag?
Because like all good Americans...he just looooves Canada eh!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/06/05 06:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by max6spd:
Nice. How come your profile says Texas, but your front plate has a big Canadian flag?
Because that's where I'm from. The St. John's, Newfoundland part of Canada. I've made the trip from Newfoundland to Texas 5 times. First getting here in my little 90 Mazda 323, Up and back with a 90 Montero 4X4 in the winter of 1997/98 and more recently in 2001 with my 2001 Xterra 4X4. 8500 miles or so round trip...really nice way to spend a 3 weeks. Week up, Week down and a week with the family. I traded in the 2001 Xterra for the new one. Will probably make the trip again.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/06/05 12:42 PM

Ok, enough poser picks!


Steel bender, with 800 miles on the clock, getting her broke in good!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/06/05 06:42 AM

You're right, enough with the poser pics.





Photo credit: Xcited (Peter Lush - SOXC , Xterra Xcursions )
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/06/05 03:36 PM

Those are some nice pics. I wish I didn't drop my camera when I did some first Off Roadin in Galena, IL.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/06/05 10:26 AM

Here is my 05 4x4 S model with auto and tow hitch. Got it offroad at BMRA, and already got minor damage sticking to the "easiest" trails.

this picture is PRE-offroading at BMRA!



My X is awesome offroad, and on-road. I am very pleased so far, just got it from factory order that should have been placed in April (dealer screwed up and order wrong stuff, so my truck was ordered in May. Picked it up June 15)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/05 03:11 PM

Mama's new SE. I love this thing!

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/05 03:14 PM

another

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/05 10:05 PM

Here is my baby.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/05 10:17 PM

Hey, nice to see you've finally gotten a lisence plate for that thing wink . You're really putting the 05 through the paces [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/05 11:32 PM

hey coltjester, i like your ride [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp] wink

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/07/05 01:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by snowboardguy:
hey coltjester, i like your ride [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp] wink

Back atcha' snowboardguy!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/07/05 08:38 AM

Here is my X and my dog Natasha.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 23/07/05 05:07 PM

Here my X:



I washed my F250 SD PSD in warm water and it shrunk! laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/08/05 06:40 PM

Here is mine! cool
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/08/05 11:40 PM

Out with the old and in with the new.Will miss old blue though.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/08/05 10:47 AM

Here is mine..
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 08/09/05 02:36 AM







2005 4x4 S 6-spd taken at Red Rock National Park, NV 200 or so miles after the break in period!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/09/05 08:36 AM





Sorry for the night shots but I wasn't gonna let that stuff cake over night.

and a clean shot
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/09/05 07:18 PM

Here is my 05 Xterra SE
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/10/05 08:02 AM





Unmodified... so far.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/10/05 02:17 PM

Mine
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/10/05 02:20 PM


Larger Image



Other Pics:
http://jbeamphotos.com/gallery/Xterra
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/11/05 03:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 2manytoyz:

Nice photo effect! laugh It looks like a toy!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/11/05 08:51 PM

Mine:
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/11/05 08:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Karlan:
Nice photo effect! laugh It looks like a toy!
Just a little Gaussian Blur via Photoshop.

Did the same effect with the picture of my previous 2000 Nissan Crew Cab.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 09/11/05 05:23 PM

Enjoy cool ! They are in reverse order: Newest first, Oldest last...











All this before 6,500km (4,000 miles)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/11/05 09:01 PM



Just a short run on the beach at Amelia Island this past weekend.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/11/05 10:08 PM

[img]http://Free Image Hosting at  <a href=www.ImageShack.us" />[/img]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/11/05 10:10 PM

ok having a lil problem figureing how to do the picture posting thing here... bear with me.. [img]http:// [img]http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6190/girlsgonewildpano5gl.th.jpg[/img] [/IMG]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/11/05 10:22 PM

plenty of '05 pics (mainly off-roading) here:

http://community.webshots.com/user/sancho213
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/11/05 04:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BOB_FROG:

ok having a lil problem figureing how to do the picture posting thing here... bear with me..
I put it up on my server so you can post it here... wink

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/11/05 08:32 PM

thanxxx Toyz..not a tech idiot. But posting pics here has gotten me stupmed. Thanx again, aprecciate it. cool
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/11/05 01:13 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/11/05 01:50 PM

that rear step looks like it comes in handy laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/11/05 05:57 PM

It only took four months, but here is the surf/fire wagon [img]http://www.sportsshooter.com/jcorsaphoto/xterra/[/img]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/11/05 06:03 PM

Arrggghhh,
One of these is bound to work, right?

http://www.sportsshooter.com/jcorsaphoto/xterra/pages/1.html [img]http://www.sportsshooter.com/jcorsaphoto/xterra/pages/1.html[/img] The X
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/12/05 05:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fire wagon:
Arrggghhh,
One of these is bound to work, right?



See if that works for ya.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/01/06 05:33 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/01/06 11:59 AM

Custom roof Rack Pic

http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc014091qe.jpg
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/01/06 12:06 PM

interesting....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/01/06 09:00 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 28/01/06 09:02 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/02/06 10:41 PM

Last weekend in Anza Borrego

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/02/06 10:46 PM

Well that was not what I expected, here's another try:

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 10/02/06 06:32 AM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/03/06 08:13 PM

My 06. 3 months old, 7K miles already. [ThumbsUp]

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/03/06 01:26 PM

man, ive read the first 15-10 pages on this thread and there were ALOT of haters out there [Laughing]
anyways, im still VERY MUCH happy with my purchase of an 05 4x2 S. im not really a big fan of off roading and will not be doing so anytime soon. i bought this because of its versatility and i needed more room to haul stuff around. and ill be honest, i like its look more than any other suv in the same category/price range. even the previous one. my only cons for the x are: no locking glove compartment, step rail and fog light shouldve been standard. thats all i can think of right now.
Anyways heres mine:







my personal must-haves are:

-HID's
-hood and window deflector.
-navigation system (for those raod trips) laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/03/06 01:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff:
[QB]My 06. 3 months old, 7K miles already. [ThumbsUp]

QB]
man, i put 1000 in 1 week the 1st week i got it.
thats pretty bad. but i kinda slowed down now
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/03/06 04:26 PM

actually, i had 3K in my first 2 weeks. i took a trip from Houston to Great Smokey Mtn in Tennessee 3 days after I got the truck.

Good times! Much better than all my roadtrips with a small sedan.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/03/06 09:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff:
actually, i had 3K in my first 2 weeks. i took a trip from Houston to Great Smokey Mtn in Tennessee 3 days after I got the truck.

Good times! Much better than all my roadtrips with a small sedan.
yeah, defnitly. i like road trips w/ the suv better than cars much more comfy. i had a wrx before, but i miss turning hard on that car and the stick shift.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/03/06 04:11 PM

here's more pics:








Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/03/06 09:36 PM

Here are a few pics of my 05 4x4 S




Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/03/06 10:00 PM

What are those tires you're running on your truck (brand/size)? Nice pics, looks good dirty!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/03/06 07:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Glorik:
What are those tires you're running on your truck (brand/size)? Nice pics, looks good dirty!
I have BFG AT 265/75 R16, Very stout tires!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/03/06 10:29 AM







Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/03/06 10:34 AM

Out in the desert.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/03/06 10:37 AM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/03/06 03:39 PM

love the bumper...how hard was the install? [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 20/03/06 03:42 PM



Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/03/06 09:45 PM

http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rtcordercustom2tc.jpg
[img=http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6214/rtcordercustom2tc.jpg]
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/03/06 12:50 AM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/03/06 05:15 PM

Like the grill were can I get one ?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 27/03/06 07:05 PM

Check it out! http://www.trexbillet.com/
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/04/06 07:40 PM

Still waiting on the Shrock bumper and sliders but should be here shortly.


Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/04/06 04:19 AM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/04/06 04:59 PM

There were routes to get up here that didn't require 4Lo Locked, but that wouldn't be as much fun.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/05/06 07:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by greg05x:
I'm really starting to like that aviation cowl black look. it kind of flows off of the roof rack and cargo bin shape like a late 60's muscle car strip graphic or something.

what does it look like from the inside?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/05/06 05:07 PM

Love the bumper...maybe my next mod if cash permits...but I hear it dosent work well with a body lift?is this true? Would I need to make custom bumper mounts with a lift?

Here are pics of my X

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 29/05/06 05:31 AM

newb here:

"S" 4x4





Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/06/06 07:40 PM


Spring break 06 Daytona!!!....The ladies love the X!


Spring Break 06 Miami...South Beach Baby!!!!


Clearwater Beach!!!

Nissan Xterra...The ULTIMATE College Car!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/06/06 09:08 PM


Posted by: Lightning

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/06/06 09:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Andre18:
[QB]
Spring break 06 Daytona!!!....The ladies love the X! [IMG]
Now that's a great pic. Got any more like that??? Always like shots of the rear hump!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/06/06 10:14 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 15/07/06 04:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lightning:
Quote:
Originally posted by Andre18:
[QB]
Spring break 06 Daytona!!!....The ladies love the X! [IMG]
Now that's a great pic. Got any more like that??? Always like shots of the rear hump!
Everything you need.... laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/07/06 07:36 AM

Here's some from a recent trip to the Outer Banks.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/07/06 09:57 AM

Here are two 2nd gen's in one, on a recent run with SCCX.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/08/06 10:50 PM

HERE'S MINE

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/08/06 10:54 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Josh:
[QB]Here's some from a recent trip to the Outer Banks.



Please tell me that's not salt water. I prefer to let the manufacturer ruin their vehicles for the sake of cool advertising photos, but avoid the saltwater if at all possible. I even got a longer jetski trailer to keep the rear tires out of the ocean when launching. always spray it down when I get home from the few droplets that flick up off the tires.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 04/08/06 09:29 AM

Haha, no way in hell I would drive through salt water. No worries, it's freshwater from all the rains the Outer Banks had experienced the past couple weeks before I arrived. I made extra sure of that. But I figure there was probably some salt in that water from the air and sand, so I obsessively hosed off everything I could reach everytime I got back to the house (there was no way to avoid the water if you wanted to reach the house). And then after driving the couple thousand miles back home to here Florida, the first thing I did after unloading everything was soap and rinse everything I could get to on the body and undercarriage, and then got the pressure washer out and rinsed it all off. I'm still paranoid, so I constantly check for rust, but so far there isn't any, and I got back a month ago.

P.S, I got the longer jetski trailer too, even though I only launch into a brackish river and then take the skis to the ocean. It's a lifesaver, also seems to be much easier to launch them, I don't have to stop quite as far down on the scary steep ramp we have here. I also soap and rinse both the inside and outside of the jetskis after every single outing, and wash the truck too. I figure if I'm washing the skis might as well give the truck a once over too.
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/08/06 04:32 PM

here is a pic on the web site more mods to come [Smoking] http://members.cox.net/whereskazoo/
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/09/06 11:31 PM


K&N Air Intake - 77 Series
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/10/06 03:27 PM

I guess I need an up to date pic...sorry no girls in this pic at all...



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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/10/06 06:53 PM



'06 Off Road and '05 35th Anniversary
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/10/06 11:30 PM

Couple of recent pics from this summer. No girls!!

Harrison Lake Forestry Road with Harrison Lake in the background.

Camping up near Kamloops

My son changing a flat!!

Taking a break at Wood Lake near Harrison

Kids love going off road!!!
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/10/06 05:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bueller44:
Couple of recent pics from this summer. No girls!!

Harrison Lake Forestry Road with Harrison Lake in the background.

hey is that the oem deflector???? if it is, it looks bigger than what i thought. it looks good [ThumbsUp] u have more pics???
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 11/10/06 02:28 AM

Love the tint job but suspect cops would object. Looks great though.

Quote:
Originally posted by ARMRD X:
Here is mine! cool
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/06 10:08 AM

Yeee Haaa. Here is what we do in the Sierras.







Z.
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/06 06:13 PM

sweet...thats the way it should be treated
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/06 06:46 PM

Ya man, that was almost more fun than a dozen strippers in mud... almost. Could not have done it w/o Shrockworks skids and sliders. Good stuff.

Z.
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/10/06 06:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ZwithanX:
Could not have done it w/o Shrockworks skids and sliders.
Z.
I have the sliders and the bumpers all I need know are the skids....
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/11/06 11:42 PM

NICE PICS! gotta love the sierra's.
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/01/07 10:13 AM

The '06-S in '06. More adventures to come.
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/01/07 07:19 PM

Pic of the 06 OR I just picked up!

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/02/07 10:52 PM

Offroad on the road between Brownsville and South Padre Island, Texas...



and

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/04/07 12:08 PM

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 02/04/07 06:53 PM

Here is my X

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/06/07 09:13 PM

are those 32s or 33s Open Country M/Ts? I was thinking about getting some of those...by the way..here's my rig...at Brianhead!
[img]http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cf...imageID=7527670[/img]
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/06/07 09:15 PM

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/06/07 10:21 AM

A little cold in those pants and flip flops, no?
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 18/06/07 01:45 PM

it was pretty darn cold, but it felt nice to get out of our boots!
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/06/07 10:37 AM

05'X Off Road
-Calmini 2.5"
-Volant CAI
-Gibson Cat-Back
-Toyo Open Country MT

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 16/07/07 05:25 PM

07 S 4x4 6spd

No mods planned yet

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 17/07/07 06:57 PM

A recent shot along the Brownsville Ship Channel...

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 01/08/07 04:58 PM


This one's from a SCCX outing two weeks ago.
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 05/02/08 01:59 PM

Awesome, I love posting pics of my X!

Here's a couple pics of Pete clean and dirty:





and here's one of my X and my boyfriend's Jeep

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/08 09:38 AM

cool Last years pic, in Oregon !!

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 06/02/08 11:45 AM

Saturday, after a trip to the car wash:

[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2391/2237781718_4dd330aa51.jpg?v=0[/img]

[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/2236990913_7b4388e0ce.jpg?v=0[/img]

[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2158/2236990857_3323c28c34.jpg?v=0[/img]
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/02/08 05:38 PM

Just picked up my BRAND NEW 2007 S yesterday. it was a left over.






Here is a pick of both of my X's!!


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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 19/02/08 06:34 PM

cool Here's a pic from last weekend on a short trip, loaded--

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/03/08 08:12 AM

Cleaaaaaaaaaaaaaan x's! heres mine it my second just got it a week ago. the 05's are sooo amazin!!! i had a 2003 and it worked miracles but the 05 WOW! i love it!
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 30/03/08 02:57 PM

Here's my 05 OR 6MT just after a 2" Daystar Lift


Here it is fully loaded
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 22/04/08 10:59 AM

Here's a pic of my Red Brawn Off Road Xterra



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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 12/05/08 09:43 PM

Just bought my 2005 Xterra off road a week ago.


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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/05/08 08:05 PM

here are some pictures of the first time taking my Xterra off road and it with it's new cold air intake. Its a nismo, sounds really good!





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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 24/05/08 08:26 PM

09 - Xterra

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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/08 10:50 AM



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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 25/05/08 11:06 AM

Now thats Bad Ass! [Too much XOC]
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 13/06/08 08:18 AM

8th Man, How much lift do you have on that X? Your ride looks formidable and dominant! Very nice. What about the size of tires there in the picture?
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/06/08 07:33 AM

Not precisely sure how much the suspension lift is over stock height but it's approx. 8".

The tires in the top two photos are 37" SSR's on 15x8" rims. The bottom picture is 36" bias-ply IROK's on 15x10" rims. The 37" SSR and the 36" IROK are nearly identical in diameter.
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Re: Where are the 05 pics?! - 14/06/08 06:35 PM

I feel like a tool trying to follow up 8thMan...



Xterra - 2008 Night Armor SE 4x4
Tires - Wild Country XTX 285/70R-17 (Siped)
Bumpers - Shrockworks front and rear black powdercoated with shackles
Winch - Warn 9500 XP with aluminum fairlead rollers
Winch Cable - 100' Blue Amsteel
Suspension Lift - Rancho 10-point adjustable 2.5"
Lights - x2 PIAA "7 spots
Next Mod - Garmin Nuvi dash GPS & LoJack