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#142770 - 28/04/03 09:28 AM Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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sorry my bad, I screwed up and got the following accounts banned, for 60 days:

Todrick
Doran
hbthug
hbpimpx
hbdealer
odessa
mohaverider
deadpunx
ogpunx
socalpunx
ocpunx
strom
strom2
stromboli
vonbimmer
bmwstrom
axle
axle59
n2fire
LBThai
Bigbrother79
bigtuna
furryclam
HBChris
yeloxtasy

After a couple e-mails back and forth with Web, Every account except mine will be restored before the next round begins... Sorry Guys I fucked up. I learned my lesson and know that web does pay attention to shortcut use. Sorry for costing you guys the round in GW

just for your info, heres the e-mail sent to web:


Hi Web,

I'm not gonna pull the crap I have seen posted on various messege boards... I got Banned, I deserved it, so I'm not gonna tell you I didn't Cheat. I'm writting to get the specifics on the ban... I only own 1 account, "Todrick" I use 24 other accounts of my friends that play GW, I am basicly asking what i would take to get their accoutns back sooner.

Originaly the notice said 60 Days, now it says 28... So I am just curious. I fully own up to and accept responsibility for my actions, Too be honest I just didn't have the time to devote to the game and instead of doing the right thing and accepting that I cheated in order to save time using shortcuts/scripts. My friends were not involved other than letting me use their accounts.

I don't know what else to say, Could you please consider restoring the other 24 accounts sooner... I will gladly accept a 60 day ban if my friends can continue to play GW.

The other accounts are:

[--edited out to save space--]

To demonstrate that I am honestly sorry for my Error, I have attached a copy of the L33t-wars client, I assume you got more people who were using it as I see the guy who gave it to me is no longer listed in the rannkings. But none the less I figured you would find it interesting.

Sorry again, your job is probably hard enough with out shit like this to deal with.
Jason Todrick

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#142771 - 28/04/03 09:30 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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This is the part where they take you to the desert and put 3 bullets in you isn't it ?

laugh
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#142772 - 28/04/03 09:34 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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lol, funny ian... yeah when socalpunx called me yesterday he was a bit bent, as i would be if the situation was reversed...

on a side not, Ian. Web and you must have been seperated at birth... his responses to e-mails are generaly very short and too the point, so ian-like it is creepy:

"Remind me when the round ends and I'll unban the 24 GW accounts.

Web
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#142773 - 28/04/03 10:10 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Damn it man now I have to suicide my whole freaking gang. If web dont put the three bullets in you I will. mad [Too much XOC]
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#142774 - 28/04/03 10:28 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Can you not boot the guys who were banned?

but like i said, I am sorry, Could be worse... you shouldn't have that many banned guys, Socalpunx and Hick have 14 banned members smile

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#142775 - 28/04/03 10:59 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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I was wondering what had happened to one of my accts. Oh well, at least my productivity at work will go up. laugh

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#142776 - 28/04/03 11:15 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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yeah pino thats what i was thinking... hell i might get something done now.

sorry i costed anyone the round... but your only out for three days... not bad... Looks like im out for 60 days.

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#142777 - 28/04/03 11:45 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Quote:
Originally posted by Todrick:
Can you not boot the guys who were banned?

but like i said, I am sorry, Could be worse... you shouldn't have that many banned guys, Socalpunx and Hick have 14 banned members smile
yeah...and we were 4th overall rankings prior to being banned......
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#142778 - 28/04/03 11:51 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Quote:
Originally posted by Todrick:
Can you not boot the guys who were banned?

but like i said, I am sorry, Could be worse... you shouldn't have that many banned guys, Socalpunx and Hick have 14 banned members smile
yeah but you cannot make up 6billion in value for the guys that were banned in 3 days! mad
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#142779 - 28/04/03 11:58 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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yeah...and we were 4th overall rankings prior to being banned......
Only because you cheated. Sad very sad
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#142780 - 28/04/03 11:59 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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we havent cheated......we are just good.
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#142781 - 28/04/03 12:02 PM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Something like that
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#142782 - 28/04/03 12:16 PM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xman6:
Something like that
You do sound like the fuzz......guilty until proven innocent...
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#142783 - 28/04/03 12:20 PM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xterra Rick:
we havent cheated......we are just good.
then i guess i didn't cheat either... cool, i don't have to feel bad now.

seriously man... we all know that the top 50 or so gangs all do the same shit i got banned for doing... you included. just sucks that i got caught.

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#142784 - 28/04/03 07:17 PM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Hey I've been playing as well, and I happened to gang up with another guy that was using that client. So my gang went from 3rd to 20th in Hong Kong because all of his accoutns are gone. I only have 8 players in my gang now, instead of 25. Anyone want to join up to end this round?
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#142785 - 28/04/03 09:48 PM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xterra Rick:
Quote:
Originally posted by Xman6:
[b]Something like that
You do sound like the fuzz......guilty until proven innocent...[/b]
Actually he admitted to it. Not much more proof needed but thanks for playing...or cheating, whatever.
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#142786 - 28/04/03 09:49 PM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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I remember when I was in the game (before you decided you didn't need us) we hated the players who cheated and were very satisfied to have made the top ten without cheating. What changed? That game is not that addictive.
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#142787 - 29/04/03 06:30 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xman6:
I remember when I was in the game (before you decided you didn't need us) we hated the players who cheated and were very satisfied to have made the top ten without cheating. What changed? That game is not that addictive.
Well, the game is addictive and I put a bit of time into it because I enjoy it and it is competitive. I would not call running a scipt to speed the login process cheating. We are not illegally making drug money just pop up into the players value, or altering the games play at anytime. You simply cick one button and you are logged in......
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#142788 - 29/04/03 09:57 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xman6:
I remember when I was in the game (before you decided you didn't need us) we hated the players who cheated and were very satisfied to have made the top ten without cheating. What changed? That game is not that addictive.
We use shortcuts for logins and drugs in GW. Not auto merc scrips nor merc scrips no buttons to train or break attacks. The shortcuts we use are legal which is why we did not get banned in Gang Wars. The ones that were used in Leet were more detailed and they automated more functions which is why they got banned. We shared accounts with them so we lost our chars too.

As far as any WE being satisfied with any finnish that's interesting. Rick , his brother , Hick and I were pretty much the only people involved in the game at any competitive level. We were on all the time and we did all the attacks and defending together as a team.

The remainder of the the guys in the XOC 54/45 gangs pretty much did things to undermine any potential success that we had. Single attacks on your own, training at your leisure and operating as a single entity are the reasons why we decided to just run the gang on our own.

It got to be very frustrating trying to convince everyone to get on the same page. It got very frustrating to see guys just logging in once a day , training the wrong thing , attacking an allied gang and then logging off. If you , for some reason feel like you were ditched , look at what your gang is doing on your own now after SIX MONTHS of knowing how to play.

The four of us finnished third overall last month and have been a permanent fixture in the top gangs in the game. We just decided that we were going to try to win the game and that was going to be the only way to acomplish that.
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#142789 - 29/04/03 10:11 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Well said......
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#142790 - 29/04/03 10:38 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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ok lets clarify:

Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
We use shortcuts for logins and drugs in GW.
like mine for l33t
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Not auto merc scrips nor merc scrips no buttons to train or break attacks.


The only difference is i did on a couple occasions use mine to train. never to break attacks. when i saw yours, your had the buttons for training... did this change? when?

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The shortcuts we use are legal
No ALL shortcuts are illegal, at least they are now. Web had approved of shortcuts as long as nothing was automated... the program i used was built by wingnut after he cleared it with web... i have seen the chat transcripts of web OKing it... it did nothing different from the shortcuts that you use... so beware.

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which is why we did not get banned in Gang Wars.


no, you didn't get banned because web banned everyone in l33t that used the client... he can and will ban you for using shortcuts in GW... he just hasn't decided to raid GW yet.

Quote:
The ones that were used in Leet were more detailed and they automated more functions which is why they got banned.


again it featured no automation... yes it was a slickewr design built of an IE5 base as a full fledged program(not a crude web page featuring links), but esentially it was the same thing, if anyone wants to see a copy e-mail me todrick@hotmail.com again IT HAS NO AUTOMATION... it is not the program that dubz/blyte got banned from GW for a while back... it was a new version made to conform to web's rules...

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We shared accounts with them so we lost our chars too.


true, again sorry... i knew you used shortcuts so didnt figure you'd mind if i did as well... hell when i was at your office that day i watched you log in, travel attack and return home using shortcuts... i never did anything i didn't see you do. but like i said above apparently web changed the rules a bit... whichhe has the descretion to do according to the TOS

Quote:

As far as any WE being satisfied with any finnish that's interesting. Rick , his brother , Hick and I were pretty much the only people involved in the game at any competitive level. We were on all the time and we did all the attacks and defending together as a team.

The remainder of the the guys in the XOC 54/45 gangs pretty much did things to undermine any potential success that we had. Single attacks on your own, training at your leisure and operating as a single entity are the reasons why we decided to just run the gang on our own.

It got to be very frustrating trying to convince everyone to get on the same page. It got very frustrating to see guys just logging in once a day , training the wrong thing , attacking an allied gang and then logging off. If you , for some reason feel like you were ditched , look at what your gang is doing on your own now after SIX MONTHS of knowing how to play.

The four of us finnished third overall last month and have been a permanent fixture in the top gangs in the game. We just decided that we were going to try to win the game and that was going to be the only way to acomplish that.
I wanted to agree with the above... when it was mentioned that xoc45/54 finsished top 10, correct me if im wrong but that was top 10 in colombia(a weak ass country) not top 10 in the world which is what matters... GW/l33t works best with 1-3 people playing one gang, but they all have to know how to play... I thought we did well back then too, it wasn't till i finished 6th in the world in l33t that i realized how bad i sucked before, and how lame i was for thinking ranking in a country was success when i finished under 50th in the world... oh well you live and learn

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#142791 - 29/04/03 10:53 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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when i get my account back i will elroy - i have only one account but at least its my account. the above reason is why i dont like everyone having the same password even tho it is a good way to attack and defend.

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#142792 - 29/04/03 11:10 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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Jason , we lost the mercing and , training and bank functions on our shortcuts. So I still think that our limited functions kept us from getting banned while others arround us were getting the axe. In this round alone 12-15 gangs have been banned specifically for using shortcuts so I think that web has been on top of GW just as much as Leet.

N2 , a slight correction: The gang working as one cohesive unit is really the only way to win. Being able to use the entire gang to attack and zero another gang and being able to defend with each character is the only way you can be successfull. It would be way to frustrating to watch a guy in your gang get his ass kicked while he's draining the whole gang of it's thugs and not be able to do a single thing to defend him.
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#142793 - 29/04/03 11:25 PM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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wow... just got the time to look through the rankings in l33t...

Web banned A LOT of people... i would bet that all the banned accounts in GW are actually bannings from l33t, to give you an idea, mexico only has 66 gangs in it now... to give you a better idea...

I put in bold all the normaly high ranking gangs, that i know were major gangs... amny of the other are likely just gangs with new names that we never identified, most of these were in the top 100 before the ban, some were just begining to rise after building all round(just an FYI that zero at the end is "Total Value")

i was "SeussVille":

538 WarMachine (1) 0
539 MKS (2) 0
540 SeussVille (11) 0
541 PaulMasson (288) 0
542 TheLost (31) 0
543 Status (36) 0
544 cocaine (40) 0
545 Taxman (44) 0
546 WestSiderZ (63) 0
547 Bigcats (69) 0
548 stomping (81) 0
549 EasterIs420 (93) 0
550 highprice (692) 0
551 batsNgats (111) 0
552 Construction (121) 0
553 Consiglieres (124) 0
554 QUIKLIEKBUNY (125) 0
555 JamOnIt (135) 0
556 ToppersCrowd (137) 0
557 LePempz (566) 0
558 PasTOuT (143) 0
559 LaptersThugs (158) 0
560 BunnyKiller (162) 0
561 Suburbs (176) 0
562 Allsvenskan (179) 0
563 SilentEther (215) 0
564 unexpected (220) 0
565 PanicAttack (223) 0
566 BomberMan (241) 0
567 PayBaqPenis (249) 0
568 buddaplayrz (604) 0
569 JABOX (268) 0
570 TheAffinity (269) 0
571 CheatersSuck (274) 0
572 lnfernos (278) 0
573 ICantTakeIt (287) 0
574 owningyew (484) 0
575 Assimilation (319) 0
576 pooperzZz (335) 0
577 cuntswab (337) 0
578 BunchOpricks (370) 0
579 TOXIC (344) 0
580 WhoreMongers (351) 0
581 xXyousuckXx (381) 0
582 chopst1cks (386) 0
583 gunslingerz (387) 0
584 IAMRICO (415) 0
585 LaCasaNostra (433) 0
586 crossover (744) 0
587 OhNo (503) 0
588 physchedelik (507) 0
589 PimpEater (551) 0
590 FueledLiquid (562) 0
591 homeslic0rz (568) 0
592 FucknUUp (589) 0
593 triffid (623) 0
594 Dealer1 (712) 0
595 craps (724) 0
596 tyutyurtuy (759) 0
597 cashdumpgang (734) 0
598 HouseofSin (736) 0
599 minimart (745) 0
600 TOXICIV (746) 0

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#142794 - 30/04/03 12:37 AM Re: Gang-wars/l33t-wars BANNED
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first, all of the zero value gang listed above where involved int he ban.

wingnut, the guy who built the program has put up A page with his story... it also includes pics... for thos einterested, this is the l33t client:


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