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#146674 - 12/12/06 07:22 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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They come in chocolate now? How would the little fluffy yellow baby chickens hatch from a CHOCOLATE rabbit egg?

What, are you stupid?

You can't trust those goddamn bunnies....I can't believe you fell for that "Its chocolate, yeah, that's the ticket..." crap.
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#146675 - 12/12/06 07:26 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
They come in chocolate now? How would the little fluffy yellow baby chickens hatch from a CHOCOLATE rabbit egg?

What, are you stupid?
Hey, it happens!


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#146676 - 12/12/06 07:38 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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:rolleyes:

Didn't you learn anything in school?

If the boy bunny porks the girl chicken, the CHICKEN will lay the eggs with bunnies in them....so there will be no bunny eggs with chicks in them...what, they didn't teach you this stuff in Sunday School?

(I think this is a rooster here though?...so the pic is more illustrative of homosexual beastiality...or, perhaps, the rooster is getting it from a she bunny with a strap on?)
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#146677 - 12/12/06 07:41 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
:rolleyes:

Didn't you learn anything in school?

If the boy bunny porks the girl chicken, the CHICKEN will lay the eggs with bunnies in them....so there will be no bunny eggs with chicks in them...what, they didn't teach you this stuff in Sunday School?

(I think this is a rooster here though?...so the pic is more illustrative of homosexual beastiality...or, perhaps, the rooster is getting it from a she bunny with a strap on?)
Then that rooster is in for one hell of a ride!

"they keep goin and goin and goin..."

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#146678 - 12/12/06 07:48 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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They do?

Does it hurt?
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#146679 - 12/12/06 07:48 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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eli - you need to calm the fuck down.

All of your "jew bashing" examples were tongue-in-cheek - or in the case of the Russian thing it was just what the guy had observed. The only truly virulent statements I've seen in this thread have come from you.
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#146680 - 12/12/06 07:54 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Man oh man....this thread turned HILARIOUS!!! [LOL]

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#146681 - 12/12/06 08:03 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Yes, but eli went to Tulane and had two majors, so he's much smarter than you. How dare you question his intellectual superiority. Did you hear him? TULANE! Holy shit. wow.

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#146682 - 12/12/06 08:08 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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A 'holiday' tree is a tradition that dates to before Christianity.

From the web (debate as you see fit) - perhaps the FOURLANE graduate has insight here since he thinks we're all about of anti-semitic Jew haters.

I don't hate Jews. I just hate stupid people who think they need to sue everyone because their pussies hurt.

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CHRISTMAS TREE TRADITION HAS ANCIENT ORIGINS
King Tut never saw a Christmas tree, but he would have understood the tradition which traces back long before the first Christmas, says David Robson, Extension Educator, Horticulture with the Springfield Extension Center.

The Egyptians were part of a long line of cultures that treasured and worshipped evergreens. When the winter solstice arrive, they brought green date palm leaves into their homes to symbolize life's triumph over death.

The Romans celebrated the winter solstice with a fest called Saturnalia in honor of Saturnus, the god of agriculture. They decorated their houses with greens and lights and exchanged gifts. They gave coins for prosperity, pastries for happiness, and lamps to light one's journey through life.

Centuries ago in Great Britain, woods priests called Druids used evergreens during mysterious winter solstice rituals. The Druids used holly and mistletoe as symbols of eternal life, and place evergreen branches over doors to keep away evil spirits.

Late in the Middle Ages, Germans and Scandinavians placed evergreen trees inside their homes or just outside their doors to show their hope in the forthcoming spring. Our modern Christmas tree evolved from these early traditions.

Legend has it that Martin Luther began the tradition of decorating trees to celebrate Christmas. One crisp Christmas Eve, about the year 1500, he was walking through snow-covered woods and was struck by the beauty of a group of small evergreens. Their branches, dusted with snow, shimmered in the moonlight. When he got home, he set up a little fir tree indoors so he could share this story with his children. He decorated it with candles, which he lighted in honor of Christ's birth.

The Christmas tree tradition most likely came to the United States with Hessian troops during the American Revolution, or with German immigrants to Pennsylvania and Ohio, adds Robson.

But the custom spread slowly. The Puritans banned Christmas in New England. Even as late as 1851, a Cleveland minister nearly lost his job because he allowed a tree in his church. Schools in Boston stayed open on Christmas Day through 1870, and sometimes expelled students who stayed home.

The Christmas tree market was born in 1851 when Catskill farmer Mark Carr hauled two ox sleds of evergreens into New York City and sold them all. By 1900, one in five American families had a Christmas tree, and 20 years later, the custom was nearly universal.

Christmas tree farms sprang up during the depression. Nurserymen couldn't sell their evergreens for landscaping, so they cut them for Christmas trees. Cultivated trees were preferred because they have a more symmetrical shape then wild ones.

Six species account for about 90 percent of the nation's Christmas tree trade. Scotch pine ranks first, comprising about 40 percent of the market, followed by Douglas fir which accounts for about 35 percent. The other big sellers are noble fir, white pine, balsam fir and white spruce.

Premission was granted for Internet use by --- Written by: David Robson, Extension Educator, Horticulture; Springfield Extension Center

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CHRISTMAS TREE HISTORY
Did a celebration around a Christmas tree on a bitter cold Christmas Eve at Trenton, New Jersey, turn the tide for Colonial forces in 1776? According to legend, Hessian mercenaries were so reminded of home by a candlelit evergreen tree that they abandoned their guardposts to eat, drink and be merry. Washington attached that night and defeated them.

The Christmas tree has gone through a long process of development rich in many legends, says David Robson, Extension Educator, Horticulture, with the Springfield Extension Center.

Some historians trace the lighted Christmas tree to Martin Luther. He attached lighted candles to a small evergreen tree, trying to simulate the reflections of the starlit heaven -- the heaven that looked down over Bethlehem on the first Christmas Eve.

Until about 1700, the use of Christmas trees appears to have been confined to the Rhine River District. From 1700 on, when lights were accepted as part of the decorations, the Christmas tree was well on its way to becoming a tradition in Germany. Then the tradition crossed the Atlantic with the Hessian soldiers.

Some people trace the origin of the Christmas tree to an earlier period. Even before the Christian era, trees and boughs were used for ceremonials. Egyptians, in celebrating the winter solstice -- the shortest day of the year -- brought green date palms into their homes as a symbol of "life triumphant over death". When the Romans observed the feast of saturn, part of the ceremony was the raising of an evergreen bough. The early Scandinavians were said to have paid homage to the fir tree.

To the Druids, sprigs of evergreen holly in the house meant eternal life; while to the Norsemen, they symbolized the revival of the sun god Balder. To those inclined toward superstition, branches of evergreens placed over the door kept out witches, ghosts, evil spirits and the like.

This use does not mean that our Christmas tree custom evolved solely from paganism, any more than did some of the present-day use of sighed in various religious rituals.

Trees and branches can be made purposeful as well as symbolic. The Christmas tree is a symbol of a living Christmas spirit and brings into our lives a pleasant aroma of the forest. The fact that balsam fir twigs, more than any other evergreen twigs, resemble crosses may have had much to do with the early popularity of balsam fir used as Christmas trees.

Written by: David Robson Extension Educator, Horticulture Springfield Extension Center

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#146683 - 12/12/06 08:13 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Originally posted by eli:
haha, actually i graduated from Tulane , which is a much better school than UT, especially in my two majors, so no i do not wish i was going there.
Last I checked, Tulane has a team... why not cheer for them? You should never put your T-shirt school over your alma mater. That's why ND instantly became #2 for me. [Smoking]
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and about the number of agnostics in the country, "the greatest increase in absolute as well as in percentage terms has been among those adults who do not subscribe to any religious identification; their number has more than doubled from 14.3 million in 1990 to 29.4 million in 2001; their proportion has grown from just 8% of the total in 1990 to over 14% in 2001;" so it is not the largest, but it is become the largest single denomination very quickly. (catholic is the largest with 24%, and baptist is about the same size as agnostic with 17%, but both are also declining slowly)

source:http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris/key_findings.htm
That's kind of a weak site, I always question .edu links. When in doubt, wikipedia comes in handy for things like that. It has a great break down: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Religious_affiliation
Nobody's arguing what's increasing or what's declining, but I think you'll find that agnostics and athiests are in the vast minority on this country with whatever site you use. They already got their way with government buildings, but it's absurd for any public place to feel threatened with their choice. It's their decision.
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#146684 - 12/12/06 08:25 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Knock it off you "Jew Bashers".

Eli is here to straighten you out with false information and politically correct emotions.

You white people aren't allowed to question the actions of any Jewish person. Especially if those actions are against any perceived symbol related to the evil Christians.

The only ones allowed to "Jew bash" are Muslims and dammit .... Eli will defend their right to hate Jews and even kill them.

Haven't you people learned the rules of political correctness yet? One of it's enforcers, Eli, is now here to set all of you straight.

[Freak]

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#146685 - 12/12/06 08:26 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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I'm a dyslexic agnostic...is there a Dog?
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#146686 - 12/12/06 08:33 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Quote:
Originally posted by Claus Von Christensen:
I'm a dyslexic agnostic...is there a Dog?
The joke goes:

"Have you heard the one about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?"
"He stays up all night wondering if there's a dog"
-Naked Lunch

Other funny ones:
"I swear to god i'm athiest!"
"Atheism is a non-profit organization"
[LOL]

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#146687 - 12/12/06 08:39 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
Knock it off you "Jew Bashers".

Eli is here to straighten you out with false information and politically correct emotions.

You white people aren't allowed to question the actions of any Jewish person. Especially if those actions are against any perceived symbol related to the evil Christians.

The only ones allowed to "Jew bash" are Muslims and dammit .... Eli will defend their right to hate Jews and even kill them.

Haven't you people learned the rules of political correctness yet? One of it's enforcers, Eli, is now here to set all of you straight.

[Freak]
jew's aren't white?, what race are they?
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#146688 - 12/12/06 09:08 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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If I remember right, isn't Hanukkah a minor Jewish holiday? Hasn't the importance of this holiday grown in the last few years mostly because of the time of the year it occurs, and has been used as a political big stick?
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#146689 - 12/12/06 09:09 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Originally posted by Rockaholic:
I have no problem with someone wishing me a Merry Christmas, but I have often wondered why people who may nor know me at all would just assume I share the same religous belief that they have.
(this isn't directed at you, Rockaholic, but your commented provides a jumping-off point. When I say "you", I don't mean you, personally)

It's not about assuming you share the same belief system, it's about sharing their own with you. If that person is concentrated on Christmas as their celebration, it seems only natural to me to wish others a merry Christmas. It's also a fairly innocuous method of sharing that belief. People tend to bristle when Christians proclaim their belief in Christ, whether they knock on the door or stand on street corners preaching: "Oh geez, another Bible-thumper telling me I'm going to hell." I'm not a Bible-thumper, nor am I a door-knocker, but I will do what I can to represent my faith. And if that means wishing folks a merry Christmas instead of happy holidays, then that's what I'll do. If I offend someone or they reply with greetings representing another faith, then that opens up an opportunity for me to talk to them about it and for us to share our perspectives peacefully. It's not about shoving it down your throat, it's about sharing what we know to be true.

Edited to add: That being said, I understand that there are extremists out there, as there are in every religion, wanting to shove Christ down your throats. I don't condone said behaviour, nor am I trying to endorse or excuse it.
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#146690 - 12/12/06 09:18 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Quote:
Originally posted by Claus Von Christensen:

jew's aren't white?, what race are they?
Sure they are white. You are missing the entire facetious point. [Freak]

You are supposed to find racism everywhere. If you are someone like Eli, you accuse people of racism and bigotry everywhere... even in the "Tailgate Forum" when discussing quarterbacks.

Only white people are racist and bigots. At least according to the rules you only accuse white people of being racists and bigots. Don't you know anything about political correctness and advancing the tyranny of the minority?

[Freak]

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#146691 - 12/12/06 09:22 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Originally posted by RReuscher:
If I remember right, isn't Hanukkah a minor Jewish holiday? Hasn't the importance of this holiday grown in the last few years mostly because of the time of the year it occurs, and has been used as a political big stick?
That is probably true.

Let's also not discount the popularity of "Hanukkah Harry".



[LOL]

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#146692 - 12/12/06 09:40 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Had to do it..... [LOL] Thanks Adam Sandler!!!

Okay...
This is a song that uhh..
Theres a lot of christmas songs out there and uhh..
Not too many chanukah songs.
So uhh..
I wrote a song for all those nice little jewish kids who dont get to hear any chanukah songs.
Here we go...

Put on your yarmulke
Here comes chanukah
So much funukah
To celebrate chanukah
Chanukah is the festival of lights
Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights

When you feel like the only kid in town without a christmas tree
Heres a list of people who are jewish just like you and me
David lee roth lights the menorah
So do james caan, kirk douglas, and the late dinah shore-ah

Guess who eats together at the carnegie deli
Bowser from sha na na and arthur fonzerelli
Paul newmans half jewish, goldie hawns half too
Put them together, what a fine lookin jew

You dont need deck the halls or jingle bell rock
cause you can spin a dreidel with captain kirk and mr. spock- both jewish

Put on your yarmulke
Its time for chanukah
The owner of the seattle supersonicahs
Celebrates chanukah

O.j. simpson, not a jew
But guess who is? hall of famer rod carew- he converted
We got ann landers and her sister dear abby
Harrison fords a quarter jewish- not too shabby

Some people think that ebenezer scrooge is
Well hes not, but guess who is
All three stooges
So many jews are in showbiz
Tom cruise isnt, but I heard his agent is

Tell your friend veronica
Its time to celebrate chanukah
I hope I get a harmonicah
Oh this lovely, lovely chanukah
So drink your gin and tonicah
And smoke your marijuanikah
If you really, really wannakah
Have a happy, happy, happy, happy chanukah
Happy chanukah

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#146693 - 12/12/06 10:38 AM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Quote:
Originally posted by babyX:
Quote:
Originally posted by Rockaholic:
[b]I have no problem with someone wishing me a Merry Christmas, but I have often wondered why people who may nor know me at all would just assume I share the same religous belief that they have.
(this isn't directed at you, Rockaholic, but your commented provides a jumping-off point. When I say "you", I don't mean you, personally)

It's not about assuming you share the same belief system, it's about sharing their own with you. If that person is concentrated on Christmas as their celebration, it seems only natural to me to wish others a merry Christmas. It's also a fairly innocuous method of sharing that belief. People tend to bristle when Christians proclaim their belief in Christ, whether they knock on the door or stand on street corners preaching: "Oh geez, another Bible-thumper telling me I'm going to hell." I'm not a Bible-thumper, nor am I a door-knocker, but I will do what I can to represent my faith. And if that means wishing folks a merry Christmas instead of happy holidays, then that's what I'll do. If I offend someone or they reply with greetings representing another faith, then that opens up an opportunity for me to talk to them about it and for us to share our perspectives peacefully. It's not about shoving it down your throat, it's about sharing what we know to be true.

Edited to add: That being said, I understand that there are extremists out there, as there are in every religion, wanting to shove Christ down your throats. I don't condone said behaviour, nor am I trying to endorse or excuse it.[/b]
The PC people are taking this way too far. Saying Merry Christmas to someone should not be taken as offensive.

But, since it's being thrust upon us, I will take the bait. Instead of wishing anyone a 'merry christmas' or 'happy holidays', I'll just say: 'Fuck you. Have a nice day."

But then the people who don't believe in 'nice' days because their religion prevents them in partaking in or condoning anything nice will be on my ass telling me I've offended them. And then the Antiniceism religious zealots will threaten to sue me.

At that point, I'll just be forced to shorten my greeting to 'Fuck you.' People in EVERY religion fuck, so this should be fully acceptable and not found offensive by anyone.

So....

Fuck you. laugh

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#146694 - 12/12/06 12:22 PM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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You know how there's an unspoken rule that all the adults pretend there's a Santa Claus and an Easter Bunny to kids, and no one lets the cat out of the bag out of respect for the beliefs of the kids, and the magic it has for them?

If you do not believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, or that Jesus was the Son of God, etc...or in the Miracle of Lights that Hannukah celebrates, or that eating a cheese burger is morally wrong, etc...

Would it kill you to just play along like you do for the kids?

laugh

Its a basic courtesy, don't rain on their parade...its their parade.

laugh

If someone tells me to have a nice Shabey Yaldah (sic), even though I'm not Iranaian, I don't feel a need to tell them that I have somehow rejected their greeting, I CAN have a nice Shabey Yaldah, even if I have no idea what it means...a day's a day, call it what you will.

If I say have a merry X-mas...even if you are Muslim, it should be the same...we call the day X-mas...have a merry one...if you have a problem being merry, that's a separate issue, perhaps more serious.

laugh

Muslims greet me with Salaam Alekiem (sic), I might reply with Alekiem Salaam...its just being polite.

If I later find that Salaam Alekeim means "I have the bombs", and Alekeim Salaam means "And I the fuses...", so be it....

...I don't have to have the fuses, and the Muslims don't have to believe that Jesus was more than a prophet...its just a salutation, and a wish for a nice day.

laugh

S0 just agree to have a happy hannukah, a merry x-mas, a roudy ramadon, a not so shabby yaldah, or whatever....and do not be an asshat and rain on the parades.
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#146695 - 12/12/06 01:52 PM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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How could this dumbass Rabbi not know his outlandish request would result in what it has? Shame on him not to recognize what a religious symbol is (not a fucking x-mas tree)! I'm Catholic and I don't expect the rest of the world to recognize my Christmas beliefs. Nor would I go to a public place and request they put up a nativity scene. I think the airport handled the situation perfectly as much of a shame it was.

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#146696 - 12/12/06 01:55 PM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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How many of you get hammered on Cinco De Mayo? (mexican independence day - are you from Mexico?)

How about going to Mardi Gras and enjoying Fat Tuesday (a very christian tradition)?

Arbor day? (are you a tree hugger?)

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#146697 - 12/12/06 02:12 PM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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Quote:
Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
How many of you get hammered on Cinco De Mayo? (mexican independence day - are you from Mexico?)
I've never celebrated that day. I don't think too many people do that are north of the border states. Is it a big thing down there?

I will however be getting hammered when the United States gains it's independence from Mexico.... if that ever happens.

By the way.... is a soldering iron a valid symbol of Kwanzaa?

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#146698 - 12/12/06 02:36 PM Re: "Mommy, why are they killing X-mas?"
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As you can imagine, Cinco de Mayo is HUGE in Arizona. It's a good day to get cheap Coronas and Margaritas.....

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