Show me someplace better than here.

Was I not clear about blind propaganda?

And what do you mean by "better"? Better weather? Better beaches? Better food? Better political structure? "Better" is a subjective term that...wait a minute...why am I explaining this to you? Is there somebody here that can intelligently discuss this? If I wanted to spoon-feed retards, I'd work the mess tent at the Special Olympics. Jesus Fucking Christ.

The IRA is purely political. They simply want the same thing we wanted - their own free country. Unfortunately, you also have British loyalists who want Ulster to remain part of the UK. The fact that most of them are Catholic is irrelevant. Some of the loyalists are Catholics as well.

I agree with you that the IRA is a political entity, but you must admit they discern themselves by their Catholicism. Their recent "Irish Unity" socialist policies and their complete abandonment of religious imagery and language are a result of a PR retooling since the Good Friday Agreement.
My assertion was that Christians, as a people who subscribe to a non-violent theology, are often the first to give into violence. You're right, though. Maybe the IRA wasn't the perfect example of this.

hijacked thread.

Shazam, you speak of christians as if they are the only ones to have committed acts or war or hate or whatever over the past centuries .... shake you fucking head a little .... every culture, race or creed has historical events that by today's standards are not accepted, but back then they were the way of the world .... why don't you take your racism and hatred somewhere else you ignorant fool.

Maybe his whole point is not to be the first to cast stones?

He's not being racist. He's merely pointing out that for the most part, "born again christians" wrap themselves in a cloak of self appointed supremecy, touting that because of their acceptance of Christ, they are imperically correct. IE- I deal with it constantly. A co-worker (there're several) abuses his morality on a daily basis. Cheats on his wife and family and then says , "Jesus understands, that's why he gave his life for me.." F'n disgusting

you said it.

I don't think anyone in Ireland would agree with that.

Every time I think you can't get any dumber.....

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If you're cool like Smith:

Now look who's name calling. It must be great to be so enlightened. You knew exactly what I meant when I said better. You can live anywhere in the world if you don't like what this country is coming to. Try Greenland. I hear it's nice this time of year. Take some of your liberal buddies with you and bounce ideas off the seals.

... this is getting funnier by the post ....

I for one salute you sharham,and alot of people here know what youre talking about, dont let these weirdos bring you down. People like rat are the fringe of the right wing fringe.

Shake em off man

As most Christian crusaders with the Ann Rynd hate multiplier, they have no idea of what a truly groovy guy JC was.

He would be just another "liberal intellectual coward"

Hell the term "Christian Crusader" is an oxymoron.

There have been many masacres in India trying to find out who is more Ghandi like.

Same shit happens all the time, and will keep on happening.

The more you hate, the more selfish and unforgiving you are to your brothers, the more of a "True Christian/True Muslim" you are.

“A criminal should be tortured and killed.”

“The poor deserve what they get for being so lazy.”

“Those faggots/niggers/wetbacks/kikes/dirtyirish/chinks/ragheads deserve it, they are always asking for "special rights".”

“Forgiveness is weakness, spare the rod, eye for an eye, lake of fire”

The problem is not Jesus, it’s the assholes that build churches like this:


Sneering while throwing an occasional can of old beans at:


They might as well build a 200 foot middle finger and point it to the clouds.

Find me a dirt poor little church in the favelas and Ill show you a house of God.

Their are plenty of good christians/muslims, the problem is that you will never hear of them. Their small voices are always shouted down by the louder and more attractive voices of hate and zeolousness.

Just like there are many thoughtful and just voices in the Republican party. But in this America of 2005 they will not be heard anytime soon.
Extremes are the norm, and our nation is a circus of the bizarre.

Well, I'm not much of a church goer.....

But I do have my moral beliefs. I never said anyone didn't have the right to exist and do what they want to do. All I ever said is that they keep it to themselves because I don't want to hear about it.

The world should not bow to the one percenter groups. Democracy is based on majority rule. When gays or Iranians become the majority in this country, I fully expect things to change. Until then, live with the system.

You guys need conservatives like me. It's a system of checks and balances for liberal whackos like yourselves.

That's EXACTLY how I feel about Christians. But, they can't keep their thumbs off of their neighbors' backs. And no, democracy is not based on majority rule. Mob rule is based on majority rule. A true democracy protects its minorities. A true democracy is based on the rights of the individual.

Conservatives need to get back to their libertarian roots. I don't think the founding fathers would have wanted either a welfare state OR a police state. And why should we have to choose?

PS--And I think gays belong in the military. Why? Because they've always been there. Should they be able to make a point of their homosexuality? Probably not, if they want to get ahead. Does it suck for them? Yeah, it probably does, but if they want to be there, they're gonna have to give up a piece of their civilian personality, just like every other service member. I don't understand why they'd want to be there, but who am I to judge? Most of their fellow service members, and the country at large, as much as 75% according to Desert_Rat, are just waiting for the go-ahead to stomp them into the ground. Why they'd want to sacrifice themselves for that, I'll never understand. But again, it's a personal decision, and if they want to be cannon-fodder for a society that hates their fucking guts, I say give 'em a rifle.

I don't get it. Am I a foreigner? When did I come to this country? I guess when my great-great-I-don't-know-how-many-greats-great-grandmother's vagina came over to this country and popped out a kid in the mid-1700's, I guess. What, I got a funny name and brown skin, so I can't be in your little club?

Where did I say anyone needed stomped into the ground? Don't confuse me for someone else. I don't advocate violent ways of resolving these types of differences.

Your comment around gays in the military makes more sense than anything else you've said...That's exactly what I'm saying. Being openly gay and flaunting it in the military is not appropriate. Deal with it. I don't want to hear about it, nor do I want my kids to have it stuck in their faces and being told they should celebrate gays.

Why the hell are we arguing? Cripes man.

yep. blame your great great whatever for pooping you out. technically, we're all foreigners, 'cept for a few that came over on foot way back when, during an ice age... does that really matter? You still seem to hate the country an awful lot. I couldn't give a rats ass what color your skin is. If you believe the US is the devil, and it's such an awful place, and not worth fighting for, then leave. Plain and simple.

Iceland, for one.

Too bad...it's a shame you don't have a clue what it means to be an American.

I'd like to see your source for that figure. Did you just pull that out of your ass?

Take your pick as to the number. Depending on where you look, it's between 1% and 7%.

And no, I didn't just "pull that out of my ass". I'm not gay. Things don't go into my ass and come out later...

But you want sources?

Try google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gay+population+united+states

Then start picking on results...

Wow. Didn't realize I needed to teach you how to search on the internet...

But here:

From this site: http://www.losangelesalmanac.com/topics/Population/po55.htm

But if you really want the definitive answer, the US Census Bureau statistics are summed up in this article:

http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/1000491_gl_partner_households.pdf

Please look through it, and you will see that only 0.99% of the population, as reported by the US Census Bureau (the ONLY official census in the United States), are gay.

So the gerbils never come back out?