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#203519 - 12/05/04 04:50 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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#203520 - 12/05/04 06:21 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Originally posted by xterrapin:

Since we are in the mood of quoting troops in Iraq, here's a good one.
This letter was sent by mail from Iraq from Specialist Mike Prysner:
Of course anyone writing a letter of praise to Michael Moore is going to be a misguided idiot. Look at all the leftist "talking points" in that guys letter. He talks about the homeless, the homosexual poster boy Matthew Sheppard, the ACLU, Jerry Falwell. Give me a fucking break with that bullshit. It makes you wonder if it's even a real letter. Considering Moore makes his living by being a propagandist and outright liar, he has zero credibility regarding anything.

Here is a video where he admits his work is just HIS opinions. He even lies by saying he does not present his work as something it is not and he doesn't disguise his ideas. Sure he does. He disguises his propaganda in the guise of a 'documentary'. He presents his work to the minions of idiots as fact.

Click here for video of fat, leftist, lying slob
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You wanna win the war against terror? Stop being a god damn terrorist. We reap what we sew, fucko!
I'm a terrorist? Are you saying America is a terrorist nation? (Maybe I should spell it 'Amerika' like leftist scum like you).

You're a fucked up guy xterrapin. I can only imagine what happened to you or what kind of people must have spawned you or what type of upbringing you had to make you hate your own country so much. All I've heard from you over two years is nothing but 'blame America first' bullshit. The 'we deserve it' kind of shit that scum like you spew out with regularity.

I've noted long ago whose side in this struggle with terrorists you are on.

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#203521 - 12/05/04 07:48 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Wow, if there was ever a poster child for natural selection it is Xterapin [Save the fine unicorns] . Whenever I hear liberal bullshit it makes me cringe as to what this country has become. A politically correct, fag loving, pussy ass bunch of pathetic cowards who are too afraid they might hurt someones feelings or offend the world that we allow planes to fly into our fucking buildings. The liberal/socialist mentality is eroding our morals and values. Well guess what mother fuckers people like me exist that believe in family values and that guys sucking cocks is wrong and there are a lot more of us than you can have nightmares about. History shows that great civilizations erode due to people like liberals and their ideology. Just some food for thought. [Finger]
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#203522 - 12/05/04 07:49 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Forgot something:
Snoopy do you have a link to that picture so I could use it as my background. That kicks ass!
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#203523 - 12/05/04 08:11 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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If you want to read some fucked up manifestations of leftist mentality related to the Nick Berg murder.... it is on Democratic Underground.

These people represent the leftist element of the Democrat Party. These people suffer from the same mental affliction as xterrapin.

Let's take a look at this train wreck of human thought:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...mesg_id=1583890
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x15882 68
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x15887 58
http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...mesg_id=1586040
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x15884 36
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x15878 52
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x15884 08
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x15880 26
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x15880 12
http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...mesg_id=1581683

Nick Berg's father has some type of connection to the socialist/communist organization International ANSWER . So many of these leftist freaks have deemed his murder was a plot by Americans made to look like terrorists.

I cringe when thinking that these people vote. They of course vote for Democrats.

I wonder what xterrapin's screen name is over there....

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#203524 - 12/05/04 08:13 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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#203525 - 12/05/04 08:15 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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wow that is very interesting stuff. makes a great case for forced labotomies and vascetomies!!!!!
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#203526 - 12/05/04 08:16 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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About the beheading! There is a whole lot of people out there that will put their two cents in and don't have a clue what they are talking about. The person had NO Bussiness over there! On that note there should be no civilans in the Theater of Operation. This is still a war no matter what anybody says and too allow unarmed, untrained people in this area is asking for exactly what happened. With the amount of cilvians in the area expect it to happen agian or something much worse. These people have no fear of death and that makes them a dangerous enemy. They train their childern to kill as soon as they are old enough to hold a weapon, they are tought hate Americans. Beleive me I know this and it is a Fact. If you have been in combat and have walked in the shoes of a COMBAT VETERAN then those of you that don't fit the bill need to keep you damn mouths shut! Those of you that may think the Veterans of this country are high and mighty it's because we are, those of you that disagree, where were you when your country needed you?

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#203527 - 12/05/04 08:20 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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good call Leadtheway (ranger???) plus the lure of a tax free high paying job helps many in their decision making process. hopefully our guys can find the scum and they can taste some american metal!!
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#203528 - 12/05/04 08:47 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Originally posted by anderair:

Oh, that's right. Bush declared "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and that makes the war over. Sometimes you really are too much. I would bet that most soldiers in Iraq would not agree that the war is over.
The war against the Iraqi army is over. That ended last year.

Yes... We are still engaged in conflict, except now it is with terrorists and assorted Islamozoid factions. The old Iraqi government no longer exists. The old Iraqi army no longer exists. They crumbled. That phase of the war is in the past. That part of the mission was accomplished. The government knew Iraq would be a focal point for Islamic terrorists. This is a different phase of the war. The next phase of the war is fighting them in conjunction with forces from the new Iraqi government.

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#203529 - 12/05/04 08:57 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Originally posted by lincolnnellie:
As far as the Oil Revenue paying for the war - Things are costing more than we estimated, and no one else is helping with the costs. This is not Bush's mistake, is merely a mis-calculation by one of his aides or staff. Can you blame him when he is misinformed?
Too bad we don't have a president like Truman anymore.

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#203530 - 12/05/04 09:03 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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The Government/Pentagon knew the deal! The Joint Cheif Staff advised the Pentagon to send 200,000 troops and they ignored the information and only sent 120,000. What the reason was who knows, but the bottom line is that there was not enough troops on the ground at the time of the take over to control the situation and that lands us where we are today and in the long run cost more American lives.

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#203531 - 12/05/04 09:07 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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I did read that letter anderair, and it did say that we are an occupying force. I will help you out and post the part that you didn't include.

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We are an “occupying force” in the eyes of the Iraqi people and you cannot
tell them otherwise because they are not conditioned to play to political spin
like Americans are. There is nothing wrong with being an occupying force; that
is what we were in Germany and Japan. As long as we can continue to make
progress in rebuilding the infrastructure such as the power plants, we will
prevail. I know that sounds like a weird objective, but envision your life
without electricity or flushing toilets. Basic things we take for granted, but
are essential to our standard of living. We have the ability to bring the people
normalcy, it will just take time. We take steps each day, just sometimes we have
to take one backwards due to the foreign fighters and insurgents.
Thanks for playing

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#203532 - 12/05/04 09:29 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Originally posted by Mobycat:
Quote:
Originally posted by lincolnnellie:
[b]As far as the Oil Revenue paying for the war - Things are costing more than we estimated, and no one else is helping with the costs. This is not Bush's mistake, is merely a mis-calculation by one of his aides or staff. Can you blame him when he is misinformed?
Too bad we don't have a president like Truman anymore.

"The Buck Stops Here."[/b]
There is absolutely no accountability in the current Bush administration. In the real world, people get fired for mistakes that make their CEO look bad in public. How about the intelligence that Bush claimed that Iraq was getting nuclear materials from Niger? Proven completely false but one of the mainstays of Bush's State of the Union address. Nobody fired.

Since people are not reprimanded for providing bad intelligence to the Commander in Chief, they have no incentive to check the validity of their intelligence. Perhaps if anyone was held responsible for their misinformation, others would get the message.
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#203533 - 12/05/04 09:33 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Just to correct the person you quoted: The United States was not an occupying force in Japan, American Foces never fought on Japan's Soil. The dropping of the Atomic Bomb was to advoid an invasion which would of cost over a million American lives. The war in the Pacific bounced from island to island, the most famous out of them all was Chichi Jima. A matter of fact American Airmen were beheaded by Japanese soldiers on this island. If you want to educate yourself read the book called "Fly Boys" by James Bradley.

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#203534 - 12/05/04 09:36 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
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Originally posted by anderair:

Oh, that's right. Bush declared "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and that makes the war over. Sometimes you really are too much. I would bet that most soldiers in Iraq would not agree that the war is over.
The old Iraqi government no longer exists. The old Iraqi army no longer exists. They crumbled. That phase of the war is in the past. That part of the mission was accomplished.
The old Iraqi army no longer exists because the US disbanded them and let them go. One of the stupidest decisions made in the war. I believe there were around 300,000 soldiers. Do you really think they went home and are now happily supporting the US? Now we are trying to recruit them back to help in places like Fallujah.
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#203535 - 12/05/04 09:41 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Anderair, you have spoken like a true politician, Democrat/lefty, im sure, not a F'n clue.

As far as Leadtheway, glad to see there is another military man out there. [ThumbsUp]

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#203536 - 12/05/04 10:58 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Originally posted by airbornenurse:
Anderair, you have spoken like a true politician, Democrat/lefty, im sure, not a F'n clue.
Go ahead, clue me in. I'd love for you to point out the inaccuracy. The US disbanded the Iraqi army. It was a stupid decision because it dispersed them throughout the country. Now, how do you tell them apart from the rest of the countries citizens?
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#203537 - 12/05/04 11:30 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Seeing this video yesterday, my guts churned. Not because of the graphicness of it, but because he was an American. A American civilian at that.

Whether he's innocent or not is up for discussion. I say this because though he might be "innocent" in the fact that he did nothing criminal or immoral, he also was stupid enough to go to Iraq at a time like this. Yes, I said STUPID.

American civilians have no business in Iraq until victory is unilaterally complete. America should deport any American civilians who are found there, no questions asked.

Capturing Saddam and killing his sons wasn't and isn't enough. The will of the Iraqi people must not just be bent, but completely broken and crushed underneath the heel of an American GI boot for victory to be absolute. President Bush can crow "Mission Accomplished" till the cows come home, but victory in Iraq is nowhere near finished.

The will of the people, all the people MUST be broken. That is how wars are won. We succeeded in WWII, and we failed in Vietnam. The differences in outcome should be proof enough of what I'm saying. I don't understand why people find this so difficult to comprehend.

I personally agree with leaflets being dropped on Fallujah stating that the city will be utterly destroyed in 48 hours. Those who don't get out, die. Tough shit. That's war for you. The innocents die with the guilty. It's sad, but war is hell, people. Hell on earth. And we need to continue to do that, up to and including Baghdad itself, if we must. The country of Iraq and ALL of its people need to understand that we are not fucking around.

But people won't put up with that. And for the love of God, spare me the lefty/righty BULLSHIT that always pops up in these goddamn discussions. Let the military do it's fucking job, and have the JCOS report to the president when the country is fully secure. It's not a liberal or conservative idea, it's goddamn common sense about war tactics. Sure, there should be laws about governing POW's, but on the battlefield any joke of a "convention" that thinks they could apply any sort of rules or "order" to the chaos that is a warzone are only fooling themselves. There are no rules in the fire area.

It's too late to pull out of Iraq now. We are neck deep in the shit and the job needs to get done.

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Originally posted by lincolnnellie:
As far as the Oil Revenue paying for the war - Things are costing more than we estimated, and no one else is helping with the costs. This is not Bush's mistake, is merely a mis-calculation by one of his aides or staff. Can you blame him when he is misinformed?
Are you fucking kidding me? Of course you can blame him. This isn't a simple case of Bush & the Gang missing a goddamn port-a-pottie. They are talking tens of BILLIONS of dollars here.

Why is it everytime Bush gets something right, he's a genius, but everytime he fucks up (this is definitely not the first time), it's cause he is misinformed? Give me a goddamn break! Something like this is not anything you can slip by the people.

This is what, the third time now he's asking for more money? Of course, Congress will fork it over, no questions asked. We have no choice now. But if this has been a simple case of Bush being misinformed every single time, not to mention his State of the Union gaffe, then it seems to me this man likes to assemble a staff that's even more incompetent than he is. I do not want someone like that leading my country. :rolleyes:

You, or other people on here, can brand me a leftist if you want. I'm not, but do what you will. Nor am I a righty. I could give two shits about "the party line". If more idiots in this goddamn country took the agendas important to them, broke them down individually, and made their own decisions on it, this country would be a hundred times better off. Unfortunately, we have too many morons in this country who want to, need to follow "the party line".

Of course it won't happen, because it's called common sense. Which sadly, WAY too many politicians and their followers completely lack.
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#203538 - 12/05/04 11:49 PM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Amen, Chris. [ThumbsUp]
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#203539 - 13/05/04 12:05 AM Re: Executed American!!!!
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The will of the Iraqi people must not just be bent, but completely broken and crushed underneath the heel of an American GI boot for victory to be absolute.
Wow...!! I'm surprised you said that. I agree we should be a lot tougher, but I don't feel all the Iraqi people are the enemy and should suffer "the boot".

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It's not a liberal or conservative idea, it's goddamn common sense about war tactics.
This is where you are wrong. It is very much a lefty/righty thing because the left has been a significant obstacle in prosecuting this war. We can't get tough in Iraq. It's not because of concerns of the "Arab street". It is because of the reactions of the left in this country.

We can't administer "the boot" you speak of. It seems we can't even put women's panties on the heads of terrorist scumbags to make them talk. The left is an enemy of the war on terrorism. The left does not operate from a perch of common sense. All they care about is political power. If making us loose a war means them gaining political power, that is all they care about. Their loyalties are not the same.

That is the reality of what is going on.

The left is undermining our efforts at every turn. What do you think the outcome of the Iraq prison scandal will be (a scandal blown out of proportion by the American left)? It will result in new procedures and rules that will yield ZERO information gathered from any future scumbags caught in the field. Giving the enemy a huge advantage. They will not care if they are caught anymore because being captured will mean nothing but good meals and a dry bed.

The left is the enemy within. It's about time people wake up and start to realize this.

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#203540 - 13/05/04 12:40 AM Re: Executed American!!!!
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Wow...!! I'm surprised you said that.
Why?

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Originally posted by NY Madman:This is where you are wrong.
I happen to disagree. The conservative party is full of shit just like the left party. They all are, and THAT, my friend, is the problem.

All political parties, their followers, and the politicans themselves have their agendas. I just believe it is not only dense, but incredibly stupid to follow such a blind course like that.

I'm telling you, this country would be better off if individuals were allowed to think for themselves instead of being branded a "traitor" for thinking outside "the party line". But that's what happens, and it bites this country in the ass.

Fuck, I beg for the day that political parties are completely overhauled, if not wiped out and started over.
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#203541 - 13/05/04 04:14 AM Re: Executed American!!!!
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as George Washington said "Political parties in their best form are but a necessary evil."
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#203542 - 13/05/04 05:10 AM Re: Executed American!!!!
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If you say that the stuff that comes out of Hillary, Kerry, Daschle, Kennedy, etc etc etc does not encourage the terrorists you are out of your fucking mind.

That letter from Michael Moore's website was a fucking joke. That guy went on and on like he was spouting the party line, not once did he mention anything about the actual reaction or anything else from the Iraqi people. He just went down each talking point like he was reading from a script.

In summary: "I jumped out of a plane in Iraq. We shouldnt be here, the right hates gays, bush lied , we shouldnt be here." Thank you. :rolleyes:
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#203543 - 13/05/04 05:19 AM Re: Executed American!!!!
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I am sure that the guy that wrote that letter to Michael Moore was a soldier that has a piss poor attituted. I was in for 6 years and I knew some guys like that. They get passed up for promotion, they have some beef with their superiors, and they have a overall chip on their shoulder about the military. He was probably told that he would be home 4 months ago (as many in the military were), and he is still there.

He is a minority, most of the troops serve with honor and pride and would never want to associate themselves with a fat, radical, jackass like Michael Moore. He is the PETA of the entertainment industry.
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