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#204135 - 04/09/03 08:55 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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#204136 - 04/09/03 08:55 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Jesus Murphy
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#204137 - 04/09/03 12:36 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Jesus Murphy, you two should just get it on and be done with it.
Sorry you have to witness this ugliness Baby...

You are much too lovely a woman to be exposed to this brutality.

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#204138 - 04/09/03 12:43 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Damn Sean....

You really have a fixation on the gay, penis and priest thing.

Can't you be a little more original in your insults?

As far as the kids in college... They went up to Taxachusetts on scholarships. Believe me they are well aware of the antics up there. Believe it or not, as freshman they do have to take a course that fills a diversity requirement (how fucked up is that?). Can they still come over for dinner with you Leftersons ?

Keep the insult posts shorter. Yours especially are getting too long.... and try to come up with some new material...

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#204139 - 04/09/03 03:17 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by NY Madman:

Damn Sean....

You really have a fixation on the gay, penis and priest thing.
The only fixation here is your obsession with feminine hygiene products and my son.

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Can't you be a little more original in your insults?
H-e-l-l-o, is there anyone home? Do you even remember what you write anymore? Your shit got old 10 responses ago. You can't even make it through a post without a reference to "Leftist"!

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As far as the kids in college... They went up to Taxachusetts on scholarships.
Though I don't believe the part about the scholarships, I can't say I blame them for wanting to attend a university up here The schools here are much better than what you have in NY.

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Keep the insult posts shorter. Yours especially are getting too long.... and try to come up with some new material...
That's a laugh, this coming from someone with all the originality of a 2 x 4. I've pretty much limited my responses to your tabloid journalism to one liners if you haven't noticed. Would it help if I used smaller words?
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#204140 - 04/09/03 05:27 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by Sean:

Your shit got old 10 responses ago. You can't even make it through a post without a reference to "Leftist"!
This one I will give you. It is actually less than 10 posts considering the overwhelming majority of my posts are in response to the sickeningly high amount of "lefty" bullshit posted on this board. I'm surprised the Xterra does not come with a lifetime membership in The Socialist International and a subscription to "The Nation".

Let's face it... lefties really hate being reminded they ARE lefties. I will definitely continue to use it. It's all part of the fun of this board... wouldn't you agree?

Besides, I wasn't talking about political insults. All your other insults are getting old. In one post you call me your favorite insult... a homophobe, and in the next you are calling me a homo. I might use "lefty" often but at least I come up with new material. Try to be more original. Our insult threads are getting boring.

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Though I don't believe the part about the scholarships, I can't say I blame them for wanting to attend a university up here The schools here are much better than what you have in NY.
Whether you believe it or not, it's the truth. The scholarships weren't full but they got some grants and other stuff. Why is it so hard to believe? Probably because they are white. It is shocking that schools in MA still have money for white students. This would make for good conversation when they come over for dinner.

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#204141 - 04/09/03 05:57 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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#204142 - 04/09/03 07:24 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by NY Madman:

This one I will give you. It is actually less than 10 posts considering the overwhelming majority of my posts are in response to the sickeningly high amount of "lefty" bullshit posted on this board. I'm surprised the Xterra does not come with a lifetime membership in The Socialist International and a subscription to "The Nation".
I'm not trying to start anything here, but as a visitor to this board for almost 2 yrs now (thanks for reminding me, time flys when your having fun), I just don't see a whole lot of this "Leftist" rhetoric that your're mentioning. If anything, I believe the moderates and right-wingers far out number the liberals here on XOC.

Really, I don't mind if you call me a "Lefty" because I just don't think I am one (more moderate if anything). As a registered Independent, I voted for Weld and Romney for Governor (never voted for Ted), I'm for the death penalty and full prison terms, I'm a firm believer in the MCAS testing program and "English Immersion" , I don't trust unions (it was a good concept on paper, but then the Mafia got their hands on it), and I was all for welfare reform.

I will give you the fact that I am a firm believer in gun CONTROL (I never stated anything about banning all firearms), and I don't feel that "Big Business" should have complete freedom (I think it already dictates too much of this countries policies).

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Our insult threads are getting boring.
I totally agree. I have heard though that our "tit-for-tat" sessions get a high number of viewers. I wouldn't mind having an intelligent debate with you someday, but it just pisses me off to no end when you call me an anti-Semite or when you make fun of my wife and kid.

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The scholarships weren't full but they got some grants and other stuff. Why is it so hard to believe? Probably because they are white. It is shocking that schools in MA still have money for white students.
I'm sure it's not because their white, affirmative action in this State is fighting a losing battle. In these day's of State cutbacks and all, I'm suprised that anybody gets grants or scholarships anymore. I myself couldn't afford the bill at a university, but I was lucky enough to find jobs that had tuition reimburshment. The company I work at now just about paid for my BS at Boston University.
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#204143 - 04/09/03 08:23 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Sorry to stray out of subject, but are we gonna give those pilots guns ?
Or should we just keep those two away from getting anything that might be used as a projectile or have a sharp edge ?

Wouldn't that make the world a better place right there ?

The Dob

( Oh, by the way, guns are dangerous ! )

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#204144 - 04/09/03 09:32 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by DobermanN:

Sorry to stray out of subject, but are we gonna give those pilots guns ? Or should we just keep those two away from getting anything that might be used as a projectile or have a sharp edge ?

Wouldn't that make the world a better place right there ?
( Oh, by the way, guns are dangerous ! )
The government is dragging their feet on the issue. An example of the Executive Branch of the government not implementing a Legislative mandate. Shit like this happens both ways. We won't even get into the Judicial branch.

By the way.... Guns are not dangerous. People are dangerous.

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#204145 - 04/09/03 10:15 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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If anything, I believe the moderates and right-wingers far out number the liberals here on XOC.
You can't be serious. That is without a doubt not true. I can see how you don't see it because you think along the same terms. (By the way.... the post directly under your last one... Is he one of yours?)

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I don't trust unions (it was a good concept on paper, but then the Mafia got their hands on it)
The Mafia is one of the lesser problems of unions. They do not have a presence in most of them. Only those in certain sectors. Some of the worst unions are public service unions and the teachers unions.

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I will give you the fact that I am a firm believer in gun CONTROL. (I never stated anything about banning all firearms), and I don't feel that "Big Business" should have complete freedom (I think it already dictates too much of this countries policies).
We differ on gun control vastly. The problem has never been firearms or any weapons for that matter. The problem has always been the PEOPLE involved. I don't believe they should be sold on street corners like hot dogs. But it is wrong for any government to deny law abiding citizens of the right to own one. Here in NY an honest guy must apply, pay the fees, and wait upwards of 6 months. Then there is no guarantee he will be allowed the permit for the firearm. He also will never get his fee back if rejected. This is mainly for longarms. Handguns are almost universally forbidden in NY and only allowed under the strictest of circumstances. Yet criminals buy them on the streets illegally with impunity. When police try to crack down on illegal handguns they are ostracized as being racist and heavy handed. The cops can't win on this issue. We even have laws that mandate a minimun 1 year prison term for an illegal handgun. They are only selectively enforced according to the PC values of the district attorneys. What good is that? Your not going to like this, but it is the liberals that have totally fucked up the system. I was a part of it and saw first hand.

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I have heard though that our "tit-for-tat" sessions get a high number of viewers. I wouldn't mind having an intelligent debate with you someday
That's interesting. Almost like TV ratings. Maybe we should make it a regular thing. We've had rational debates before. Just don't be so touchy about being called a "lefty" on some of your positions. I'm called right winger and all sorts of shit. I never would have lasted here this long if I let every single slur directed at my politics get to me.

I guess I created a long post......

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#204146 - 05/09/03 01:34 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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By the way.... Guns are not dangerous. People are dangerous.
I disagree. Guns are dangerous just like chainsaws are dangerous and circular saws are dangerous. It just a matter of knowing how to handle them properly.

(yeah yeah, I'm talking about a different context)

And yes, people are dangerous, too.
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#204147 - 05/09/03 06:36 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Jesus Murphy, you two should just get it on and be done with it.
They should just have sex and get it over with... You know they want each other.
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#204148 - 05/09/03 01:34 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
[b]By the way.... Guns are not dangerous. People are dangerous.
I disagree. Guns are dangerous just like chainsaws are dangerous and circular saws are dangerous. It just a matter of knowing how to handle them properly.

(yeah yeah, I'm talking about a different context)

And yes, people are dangerous, too.[/b]
A ridiculous argument Moby.

What else... Cars are dangerous, hammers are dangerous, steak knives are dangerous.

By your logic everything would be dangerous.

Inanimate objects are not dangerous until handled by an idiot person.

It is people that are dangerous. All these items mentioned require personal responsibilty. Every tool does and a gun is just a tool.

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#204149 - 05/09/03 02:10 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by Mobycat:

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Originally posted by NY Madman:
[b]By the way.... Guns are not dangerous. People are dangerous.
I disagree. Guns are dangerous just like chainsaws are dangerous and circular saws are dangerous. It just a matter of knowing how to handle them properly.

(yeah yeah, I'm talking about a different context)

And yes, people are dangerous, too.[/b]
A ridiculous argument Moby.

What else... Cars are dangerous, hammers are dangerous, steak knives are dangerous.

By your logic everything would be dangerous.

Inanimate objects are not dangerous until handled by an idiot person.

It is people that are dangerous. All these items mentioned require personal responsibilty. Every tool does and a gun is just a tool.[/b]
That's why I said: "It just a matter of knowing how to handle them properly."

A chainsaw is inherently more dangerous than a handsaw. Scrape a handsaw against your arm. OK, you might break skin. Now do it with a chainsaw. You're going to do more than break skin.
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#204150 - 06/09/03 05:24 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by NY Madman:

A ridiculous argument Moby.

What else... Cars are dangerous, hammers are dangerous, steak knives are dangerous.

By your logic everything would be dangerous.

Inanimate objects are not dangerous until handled by an idiot person.
Car's, hammers, and steak knives can't kill you from 100 yards away.

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Every tool does and a gun is just a tool.
You can't build a deck with a gun, nor will they cut your T bone steak very well. The only purpose a firearm has besides as a deterent, is to kill/mame or destroy something. You can't catagorize a gun as a simple "Tool".
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#204151 - 07/09/03 05:47 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by NY Madman:

[b]A ridiculous argument Moby.

What else... Cars are dangerous, hammers are dangerous, steak knives are dangerous.

By your logic everything would be dangerous.

Inanimate objects are not dangerous until handled by an idiot person.
Car's, hammers, and steak knives can't kill you from 100 yards away.

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Every tool does and a gun is just a tool.
You can't build a deck with a gun, nor will they cut your T bone steak very well. The only purpose a firearm has besides as a deterent, is to kill/mame or destroy something. You can't catagorize a gun as a simple "Tool".[/b]
I can.... I have it on my tool belt everyday at work. While yes a gun can kill you from further away in most instances I know many a people who are skilled with knives and such. A gun is a tool I use for work. Others use it as a tool to hunt.

Shitheads use guns to kill people however it is still their tool. If we get rid of guns shitheads will just use knives.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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#204152 - 07/09/03 07:33 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Originally posted by NY Madman:

A ridiculous argument Moby.

What else... Cars are dangerous, hammers are dangerous, steak knives are dangerous.

By your logic everything would be dangerous.
Why do you think there's safety bar on roller-coasters ?
Because their not safe !

Safety switch on your gun ? NOT SAFE !
Safety cover on pills bottle ? Not safe.
Safety guard on circular saw ? Not safe !!

Guns are just more dangerous than other stuff and not used for anything else than shooting living creature. Big game or human alike.

And you know that half the population is more stupid than the other half. I don't care which
half you belong to, but sure as hell wouldn't want to be too close to someone from the stupid half while he's handling his gun that he just bought because it says in the constitution that he should have one to defend himself against any invasion from the British...

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#204153 - 08/09/03 06:51 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Guns are just more dangerous than other stuff and not used for anything else than shooting living creature. Big game or human alike.
So people who only target shoot with guns what about them? Guns can be used for a lot of things not just shooting a living being. A gun properly handled is no more dangerous than a circular saw or chain saw. In fact a mishandled chainsaw is more dangerous than a properly handled handgun.

Your other arguements are fruitless and prove nothing. BTW my gun nor any other glocks have a safety. Most safety devices or warnings nowadawys are to prevent lawsuits from stupid people who make anything dangerous.
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#204154 - 08/09/03 07:28 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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In fact a mishandled chainsaw is more dangerous than a properly handled handgun.
Of course. And a mishandled gun is more dangerous than a properly handled chainsaw. [Wave]

Isn't that like comparing Extra Strength Excedrin to regular strength aspirin? laugh

Anyway...I stand by my original comment...

Guns are dangerous in the same manner as chainsaws and circular saws. It's simply knowing how to handle them properly.

Amazing how an innocuous statement like that can bring out some banter.
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#204155 - 08/09/03 09:23 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Actually I am agreeing with you Moby. Guns are just as dangerous as other items when used incorrectly. But that is the key they have to be used. Just sitting there a gun is no more dangerous than a chainsaw sitting next to it.
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#204156 - 08/09/03 10:33 AM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Actually I am agreeing with you Moby. Guns are just as dangerous as other items when used incorrectly. But that is the key they have to be used. Just sitting there a gun is no more dangerous than a chainsaw sitting next to it.
Just sitting there a gun is no more dangerous than a nerf softball.
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#204157 - 08/09/03 01:03 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Very true
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#204158 - 08/09/03 04:04 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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[b]Actually I am agreeing with you Moby. Guns are just as dangerous as other items when used incorrectly. But that is the key they have to be used. Just sitting there a gun is no more dangerous than a chainsaw sitting next to it.
Just sitting there a gun is no more dangerous than a nerf softball.[/b]
Just sitting there a gun is less dangerous. A slight gust of wind, the ball rolls off the table. Little 9 month old Johnny grabs it, puts it in his mouth. No more Johnny. All the while, the gun is still sitting there on the table. laugh
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#204159 - 08/09/03 06:42 PM Re: Pilots With Guns: Good Idea, or Not?
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Little 9 month old Johnny grabs it, puts it in his mouth. No more Johnny.
Well then it wouldnt be just sitting there then would it?
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