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#204447 - 06/10/03 07:29 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Rush didn't mean anything by McNabb being overrated and black. I think he is overrated because his team did so well, no thanks to him. He is being heralded as a great QB because he is black. Same with Vick and Culpepper. You don't hear about Manning or Couch or Bulger anymore. The NFL has chosen they want to see a wide open offensive game and when these young black QB's enter the league showing they run and dazzle, the NFL feels they got lucky and will do everything to endorse them. I have nothing about anyone gaining equality, but the NFL has taken it too far. Suing the Lions and this whole black coaching thing. If there are no candidates, there are no candidates. Just being black shouldn't qualify you for a job, anywhere. Rush is absolutely correct in what he said concerning this whole situation. PC or not.

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#204448 - 06/10/03 07:44 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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I agree. The Eagles did fine without McNabb when he was hurt. Their defense got them to the conference finals.
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#204449 - 06/10/03 11:38 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Here's how dumb a conservative can be...

Sending out his maid to get his illegal pills. How fricken dumb do you have to be to send the MAID to pick up your drugs?

I've always thought Rush was stupid, but WOW.

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#204450 - 06/10/03 11:51 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
Here's how dumb a conservative can be...

Sending out his maid to get his illegal pills. How fricken dumb do you have to be to send the MAID to pick up your drugs?

I've always thought Rush was stupid, but WOW.
Thats IF he did it. Remember, the woman sold her story to the National Enquirer. If it his true, he needs to pay the piper. But you speak as if he has already been tried and convicted. Here in America we have due process, not like in your beloved Socialist USSR. wink laugh
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#204451 - 06/10/03 11:55 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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If the woman who sold her story to the National Enquirer was untrustworthy, why would the legitimate press grab hold of it and run with it...even a paper as conservitive as USA Today?

And on top of that, have the DEA investigating him? The alligations must be pretty stone cold.

Heh heh heh...for Rush to be so much for the so called "drug war" (fiasco), and for this to happen is hilarious.

And you can "ditto" me on that, sucka!

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#204452 - 06/10/03 12:18 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
If the woman who sold her story to the National Enquirer was untrustworthy, why would the legitimate press grab hold of it and run with it...even a paper as conservitive as USA Today?

And on top of that, have the DEA investigating him? The alligations must be pretty stone cold.

Heh heh heh...for Rush to be so much for the so called "drug war" (fiasco), and for this to happen is hilarious.

And you can "ditto" me on that, sucka!
Really? Didnt Linda Tripp and Monica all have thier story ran with by the "legitimate" media? And didnt they have a special prosecutor (Ken Starr) investigate the allegations against him? The allegations must've been pretty stone cold.

As for "running" with the story. I searched Google news and couldnt find anything that wasnt already old. I searched both Philly papers today, you would think with all the hatred for him in that city there would be ONE story about his alleged drug use. I didnt search LA Times or NY Times because they will obviously be putting it on thier front page every day. There doesnt seem to be anything (at least trumpeted as huge news) on CNN.com. Zero on Fox news. MSNBC.com? nada. USAToday.com has an article about his McNabb comments. Hmm, seems the legitimate media are really running hard. :rolleyes:

If he did it, he deserves what he gets. But it seems to me since the allegations first surfaced, there has been nothing new, and it been almost a week. The legitimate media must be out of breath and cant speak about it any more because of all that running. laugh
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#204453 - 06/10/03 12:53 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by MBFlyerfan:
Really? Didnt Linda Tripp and Monica all have thier story ran with by the "legitimate" media? And didnt they have a special prosecutor (Ken Starr) investigate the allegations against him? The allegations must've been pretty stone cold.
Yeah, the allegations were stone cold. But Lewinsky never was TRYING to prosecute Clinton. She was pissed off that he hadn't called her back. Tripp conned her into talking into tapes that were ILLEGAL to begin with, and Clinton was prosecuted for lying about a blow job. Come on, you're telling me you would have admitted to it with the ENTIRE WORLD watching?? Give me a fricken break.
Besides, that was a consentual affair that should have remained behind closed doors.

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As for "running" with the story. I searched Google news and couldnt find anything that wasnt already old. I searched both Philly papers today, you would think with all the hatred for him in that city there would be ONE story about his alleged drug use. I didnt search LA Times or NY Times because they will obviously be putting it on thier front page every day. There doesnt seem to be anything (at least trumpeted as huge news) on CNN.com. Zero on Fox news. MSNBC.com? nada. USAToday.com has an article about his McNabb comments. Hmm, seems the legitimate media are really running hard. :rolleyes:
CNN

Miami Herald

Plus USA Today's story ran on their front page ALL WEEKEND.

I cut out the Washington Post, the LA Times and the NY Times, because you'll obviously call those "Liberal Media Outlets" so, whatever.

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If he did it, he deserves what he gets. But it seems to me since the allegations first surfaced, there has been nothing new, and it been almost a week. The legitimate media must be out of breath and cant speak about it any more because of all that running. laugh
I like how you say it's been almost a week. The alligations came out on Friday. Your weekend must have been a lot longer than mine.

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#204454 - 06/10/03 02:37 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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You just made my point for me. Your CNN link was 4 days old, and your Miami herald link was 3 days old. FYI, I first heard of the allegations last Tuesday. Heck, even the link in the first post in this thread is from last Thursday. So, lets see, today is Monday....Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, stay with me here, Friday, Saturday, Sunday......Monday. Almost a week. Truly you have a dizzying intellect. :rolleyes:
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#204455 - 06/10/03 04:36 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by MBFlyerfan:
Well, after watching the whole Eagles game yesterday, I have come to the conclusion that McNab is overated as a quarterback. He threw high, he threw low, he threw behind, he threw too hard, and his feet saved his ass. Limbaugh was right, he IS overated, but not because he is black. It took a bad overthrow by Ramsay to save the Eagles bacon.
MB,

That is what Rush was saying all along......

The DEFENSE won that game yesterday. How come Jimmy Johnson (the defensive coodinator) doesn't make $100mil? smile

I like that fact that Tom Jackson bascially back-stabbed Rush yesterday morning say "We didn't want him here. We didn't think he fit the mold of the show." Funny how Rush fit in the first four weeks....... I lost a lot of respect for TJ yesterday. He showed his true "color(s)".

The reason the four of them (Boomer, Steve Young, Irvin, and TJ) didn't say anything at the time is because NOTHING was said wrong. The media completed twisted the whole issue.

Can someone finally "get rid of" Al Sharton too?

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#204456 - 06/10/03 06:17 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
If the woman who sold her story to the National Enquirer was untrustworthy, why would the legitimate press grab hold of it and run with it...even a paper as conservitive as USA Today?
Because it's Rush Limbaugh.

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And on top of that, have the DEA investigating him? The alligations must be pretty stone cold....
Once again Wil, you seem to be fabricating information. From what I heard, the local sheriff is looking into the allegations that were made against him. I would be willing to bet they are more interested in a pharmacy that may be taking money for drugs though.

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Heh heh heh...for Rush to be so much for the so called "drug war" (fiasco), and for this to happen is hilarious.
What do you enjoy more, guilt before proven innocent or total invasion on his personal right of privacy? Could be no more than here say and you're celebrating. Ever think that this person is probably trying to get even or get rich? You may hate the guy, and that's cool. I've never liked him all that much. But I can see the left trying to beat him down as usual.

Typical. Can't win the arguement attack the arguer. :rolleyes:
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#204457 - 06/10/03 07:24 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by aquamander:

Once again Wil, you seem to be fabricating information. From what I heard, the local sheriff is looking into the allegations that were made against him. I would be willing to bet they are more interested in a pharmacy that may be taking money for drugs though.
Hey aqua.... Forget about this guy WilPac and his bullshit. He is a pure leftist and spouts typical leftist bullshit and propaganda. When people get sick of responding to his bullshit he childishly posts "I win". As if this was a contest.

Regarding the Rush situation.... there were a couple of arrests made already. Check this out...

I agree the national media pounced on the story for one reason. They are biased in favor of liberals, leftists and Democrats (mostly one in the same these days).

The local DA also feels he doesn't have much of a case involving Rush and there probably never was a case to begin with. It was all predicated on the word of this maid. (Her husband has a criminal record for guess what?.. selling drugs)The maid sold the story to the National Enquirer for a sum exceeding $300,000. This jeopardized any investigation that could have been in place. I don't think there was anything on Rush, and I believe he will probably sue the maid and the National Enquirer in the very near future. I hope he does. This is obvious slander and defamation of character.

Getting back to what Rush said.... CBS also said that McNabb was overrated. Pete Prisco said McNabb gets the "Most Overrated Player Award". That was on Sept. 18.. long before Rush said anything. As we both know, Rush's racial comment was directed at the media, not McNabb... but the leftists that run the media will not allow any question of race unless it means giving them special treatment because of their skin color.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6650947

...............

Forget about WilPac. I think he is one of Sean's leftist office friends brought onto the board as a lefty ringer. (Maybe some moderator like Socal should check their daytime IP addresses to see if they originate from the same domain).

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#204458 - 06/10/03 08:00 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Thanks NY, I don't really. I knew he was trolling when I read the whole "Islamic World rising" statement. [Uh Oh !] This guy's no fun. At least Todrick [Crybaby] (sorry to drag you into this buddy) can flame with a little more informative zeal. This guy just throws anything out there. Hell, he may be even making up some shit! wink

I'm not a full blown supporter of Bush, nor am I completely politically conservative. Back during the Clinton impeachment hearings, I was pissed at the Repubs for forcing this country to spend $70 million on trying to prove something we all knew already. Billy got a buffy in the ovary office. I'm sure that hasn't happened before.

I do consider myself to be somewhat a moral conservative though, and I'm sick of the libral media creating a "victim" situation out of anything or anyone. Telling me I have to openly accept people who mean to harm us. (all of us) Sorry assed MF's who want everything to be given to them by the government in the form of a handout. Removing morality from being taught in schools. (government institutions) While telling them that being gay is normal. Having DEFACS called to my house because a teacher didn't like the way I addressed the fucked up things she was teaching the kids in my sons class. (so she said she suspected abuse which was proven to be without any truth what so ever.) I'm sure you know where I'm coming from.
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#204459 - 06/10/03 08:12 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by aquamander:

I'm sure you know where I'm coming from.
I know exactly where you are coming from. You are right to feel the way you do.

You want to get mad and hear more bullshit? Check this site out. It is an op/ed by the Leftist/Islamic alliance. Did you know that Muslims discovered California?

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/6942996.htm

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#204460 - 07/10/03 02:37 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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And it only took 110 posts for us to realize wilmac was an idiot.

Oh wait nevermind we knew right away.
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#204461 - 07/10/03 04:59 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Quote:
Originally posted by aquamander:
I do consider myself to be somewhat a moral conservative though, and I'm sick of the libral media creating a "victim" situation out of anything or anyone. Telling me I have to openly accept people who mean to harm us. (all of us) Sorry assed MF's who want everything to be given to them by the government in the form of a handout. Removing morality from being taught in schools. (government institutions) While telling them that being gay is normal. Having DEFACS called to my house because a teacher didn't like the way I addressed the fucked up things she was teaching the kids in my sons class. (so she said she suspected abuse which was proven to be without any truth what so ever.) I'm sure you know where I'm coming from.
Morality should never be taught in school. That's something for YOU to do at home with YOUR kids. Take some responsibility. If they believe that being gay is normal, and you don't, then give your kids a counter argument.

What exactly did you tell the teacher that made them suspect abuse? If you went that far, maybe they had a right to suspect.

You talk about how you hate people playing the victim, and here you are doing it.

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#204462 - 07/10/03 05:05 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Paul Hartwig:
And it only took 110 posts for us to realize wilmac was an idiot.

Oh wait nevermind we knew right away.
You call me an idiot, yet these people that I've been arguing with have not offered me one simple counter argument to prove me wrong. Every step of the way I have argued them into the ground, to the point where you all have resorted to name calling.

Name calling gets you no points in a debate. Didn't ANY of you take debate in high school?Prove me wrong!

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#204463 - 07/10/03 10:42 AM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
[QUOTE]Morality should never be taught in school. That's something for YOU to do at home with YOUR kids. Take some responsibility. If they believe that being gay is normal, and you don't, then give your kids a counter argument..
That's exactly what I do thank you. I was trying to make a point that some things need not to be discussed in school. The home is where these things need to be taught. You'll get no arguement from me there.

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What exactly did you tell the teacher that made them suspect abuse? If you went that far, maybe they had a right to suspect.
The whole issue was over a scuffle that happened between two first graders over a toy or something of that nature. She didn't really have the patience to deal with kids. After a short investigation, we found out that she saw only the end of the scuffle, and apologized for jumping too quickly before she found out the facts (two kids actually jumped on my kid, He just finished it.) I told her in front of her boss that if she couldn't handle the kids, that maybe she was in the wrong line of work.

Later that evening she called DFACS, and told them I was teaching my children to fight or something of that nature. She also told them my wife had a black eye. Which she did. She hit herself with the rope swing on the kids playset. (likely story I know...) In the end, she claimed that she was mistaken and she felt that circumstance was hinting at abuse. She was forced to apologize and we decided not to pursue it any further.

(That's really it. More than I cared to discuss on this board.)

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You talk about how you hate people playing the victim, and here you are doing it.
Oh please. :rolleyes: I was just trying to give an example of how quick someone can be attacked on heresay. And how fast everyone is to put aside the facts and destroy someone because they want revenge. I hope this never happens to you or anyone else for that matter. It's wrong. My intention wasn't to play the victim, quit reading more into it.
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#204464 - 07/10/03 02:11 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
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Originally posted by Paul Hartwig:
[b]And it only took 110 posts for us to realize wilmac was an idiot.

Oh wait nevermind we knew right away.
You call me an idiot, yet these people that I've been arguing with have not offered me one simple counter argument to prove me wrong. Every step of the way I have argued them into the ground, to the point where you all have resorted to name calling.

Name calling gets you no points in a debate. Didn't ANY of you take debate in high school?Prove me wrong![/b]
Actually they have. I do not take sides in arguements over the internet as they are pointless so consider my observations non-biased. However, if I were keeping score I would say you are the one losing as everytime someone does offer a counter arguement you spout off how it is not and that you won. Get over yourself as being a great debater and move on. Each time you post you have moe and more rectal cranial inversion. (see my other post)

Or just go on and keep calling yourself a master-debater, whatever gets your rocks off.
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#204465 - 07/10/03 02:20 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Yeah I have not seen an argument you have 'won' yet. You just ignore posts that you have no answer for and claim victory. :rolleyes:
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#204466 - 07/10/03 02:28 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Oh come on, me screaming "I won" is FUNNY...it's meant to be FUNNY...you guys need to LIGHTEN UP and LAUGH a little. How ridiculous to think that there actually is a win or lose to this. THATS WHAT MAKES IT FUNNY

Jeez Louise.

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#204467 - 07/10/03 06:12 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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I just have one question...

If we have a thing called "due process" and Rush is going to benefit from it (as he should, of course)...

Why are people still harping about Whitewater? Or Filegate? Or Vince Foster?

Did not the due process say that there was no wrongdoing in those cases?

Oh wait... a double standard.
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#204468 - 07/10/03 06:42 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Why are people still harping about Whitewater? Or Filegate? Or Vince Foster?
Well it could be because the Clinton's still control much of the political dialogue and discourse in this country. They totally control the Democratic National Committee (DNC). Hillary is a sitting senator and never shuts her mouth and is always constantly making false accussations about the current administration. Bill as a former president has totally broke the long standing precedent that ex-presidents never publically criticize their successors. Basically because the fucking Clinton's never shut up and suck all the air away from their fellow Democrats.

That's probably the main reason....

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#204469 - 07/10/03 07:00 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Originally posted by Mobycat:

Why are people still harping about Whitewater? Or Filegate? Or Vince Foster?
Well it could be because the Clinton's still control much of the political dialogue and discourse in this country. They totally control the Democratic National Committee (DNC). Hillary is a sitting senator and never shuts her mouth and is always constantly making false accussations about the current administration. Bill as a former president has totally broke the long standing precedent that ex-presidents never publically criticize their successors. Basically because the fucking Clinton's never shut up and suck all the air away from their fellow Democrats.

That's probably the main reason....
OK, I'll give you that. But still - shouldn't you only be giving them shit about stuff that is still possible? (Reasonably so, that is - not stuff like Vince Foster).
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#204470 - 10/10/03 12:39 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Just in on CNN at 3:32pm on 10/10/03. (Just in case you don't believe me, since Fox isn't running it)

Rush Limbaugh just admitted to being addicted to perscription pain medication.

So...should Rush be thrown in jail, like he's said should be done for other illegal drug users? No, Rush is going into REHAB.

Huh...someone gets busted for a small amount of pot and Rush screams for their head...RUSH gets busted, and he gets to go to REHAB.

Rush is a two faced SOB.

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#204471 - 10/10/03 12:48 PM Re: Rush Limbaugh.
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Did he admit to obtaining them illegally???? It is not illegal to be addicted to anything... it's illegal to be addicted to illegal substances, or obtain prescription substances illegally.......
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