Hey, I didn't say it...the Baltimore Sun did...

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I thought that was self evident.

Funny thing is, not once have I seen Fox report any of those three as fact. Most people get that info because the liberal media has been claiming that these were the reasons the administration gave for going to war. And not once did the administration make any of these claims. Fox news has been continually reporting that these are not the case. A very innacurate article.

What a waste of f'n money!

Agreed :rolleyes:

This study has got to be the biggest bullshit fabrication I've seen in a while. It's total bullshit and pure propaganda.

First of all National Public Radio (NPR) and PBS are notoriously left wing media outlets. You can cut the bias with a knife.

Secondly, the study was funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Ford Foundation . Each of which does nothing but fund smaller left wing organizations which specialize in environmental and various socialist causes. Check Activist Cash and pull their names off the 'foundations' drop down menu and look up some of their top grantees.

(Left wing Bill Moyers has connections to both PBS and the Ford Foundation)

I wouldn't believe a damn thing any of these organizations said separately, nevermind a bullshit study that they conjured up together.

WilMac is ignorance.... Nice try socialist dirtbag.

Hey all calm down in WilMac's defense he is from alabama, number 50 in education!!! Trust me when i saw FoxNews is very accurate, dont trust me come to work with me someday and ill show, oh wait id have to kill you. CNN, ABC, PBS ad infinitum are all simply liberal media puppets that try nothing more than to propogate the ignorance and pacification of the american public through socialist programming and collective "group think" marxist ideology. i saw damn them all to hell for making our country into a Godless, gutless and politically correct shell of what we once were. i think im done now thank you for reading.

He was from Boston a few days ago. Maybe next week he will claim to be from Canada.

He 's not even a butcher. How many butcher's do you know who work on computers all day?

He is a troll that was brought onto the board by someone else.

Hey, Dipstick. I'm CURRENTLY in Alabama shooting a documentary on the blues. Troll this, mofo...

How can it be a biased report? They simply asked some questions, and then asked them where they got their news. Read the story, and stop seeing red. If the results had said "CNN" or "The New York Times" instead of "Fox" this would NEVER be a biased report to you. In fact, you'd probably have posted it yourself, and gloated to all of us. Instead, you should go look in the mirror and see the most biased person on this board.

To quote the Ford Foundations website (which you so kindly linked to):

The Ford Foundation is a resource for innovative people and institutions worldwide. Our goals are to: Strengthen democratic values, Reduce poverty and injustice, Promote international cooperation, and Advance human achievement

How can you say that these are bad things?

To quote the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (which you also so kindly posted),

The Fund encourages government, business, and civil society to work collaboratively on environmental conservation and to make it an integral part of all development planning and activity. Recognizing the global nature of many environmental problems, the Fund also promotes international cooperation in addressing these challenges.

How is this a bad thing? Why do you Republicans believe that environmental safety and conservation is such a bad thing? Why do you gleefully destroy the environment, in the name of a dollar?

Oh yeah. Because that would mean you'd have to think of your fellow man, instead of yourself.

When you die, are you going to leave the world a better place, or are you just going to continue to spread your hate until you're a wrinkled, bitter old man?

My guess is the latter.

PS...I said I was a butcher, because I thought it would be funny. Apparantly, I have found the most uptight bunch of conservatives on the net.

The story was simply inacurate, no more, no less.

WehrMac, wake up and smell what you're shoveling...

Just because these foundations have a mission statement that sounds all flowery and nice doesn't mean that they don't take leftist stands or promote leftist ideology.

It's kinda like the goal of Communism is to make everyone's income and standard of living equal, yet in practice, communism oppresses the masses, crushes individual freedoms and makes people miserable.

As far as Fox news goes... They report both sides of the news. Hmmm, I guess that's a bad thing?!? :rolleyes:

How?

Holy crap is WilMac one stupid liberal that is totally brain washed or is it just me, no ass hole it's you. If you believe what the website says your an even more dumb ass than i could have even given you credit for. Wake up open you eyes and see what liberals have done to this country. I know for one that the media reports from Iraq are totally biased towards the worthless UN and Europe. How do i know you might ask most of my friends are there moron and im going soon!!!!!! Do us all a favor find some deep thick nasty mud in alabama, or where ever your from, plop down your butcher stand there, or whatever you do and stay there and stop polluting the world with your liberal ideology. Oh yeah while your at it stand in front of the mircowave or chop you nuts off so you can propogate this liberal garbage.

Since you're so educated, and I'm a moron, I'm sure you won't mind me correcting your grammar and fixing your punctuation.

REWRITE: Ladies and gentlemen...I present to you someone smarter than I am. Boy, was I shown the error of my ways.

By the way, genius, it's YOU'RE and not YOUR. If you are saying YOU ARE going somewhere then YOU'RE going somewhere.

And 'I's are capitolized. Espically when you're talking about yourself. (See how I used YOU'RE and YOUR in the correct way there?)

Since you called me a "stupid liberal," may I now call you a "stupid conservative," since I've proven my point?

Its spelled asshole, one word. And it is spelled CapitAlized, not capitOlized. Sheesh.

Well, Good God, give me a break. I almost had a stroke trying to fix that for him.

yes ladies and gentlemen i have done it again. i simply sitting at my worthless computer doing nothing have pissed off a total stranger hundreds of miles from i and now he is correcting my grammer. wilmac i thank you so much for you vested interst in my grammatical future you stupid fucking moronic goat fucking shit eating liberal, opps bad grammer fuck stick. dude you need to lighten up like everyone here. i simply find posts that i know will piss people off and wow it works. maybe you need to relax a little bit man as i am with an ice cold coors light and a tv remote. have a nice day and dont forget to floss.

Thank God we have Captain English, (Wilmar) here to correct everyone's grammar. It's good to have a specialty... we know his isn't history, logic, economics or sociology.

Willmac has just run out of bullshit to spew. He now resorts to correcting grammer in a pathetic attempt to make him look smart.

Oh yeah some work for him

I cee u are goin to tri an make me right betur

Whaat hhaypen to his living in Baston. Did he hayf to go Pack the cah or somethin?

Well, there wasn't a decent response within his post, and I had to post SOMETHING...so that was what I came up with.

When someone calls me a stupid liberal, when they're obviously not all that bright in the first place, I gotta call em on it.

WilMac giv it up. u hav no chanc of winning here. just do yourself a favor and shut up. liv with the fact that you are a stupid liberal and that will never chang. oh by the way culd u correct my gammer fur me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I give up. Uncle. Oh, you got me. Damn, do I feel dumb now.

Run Forrest...............run!

You have to realize your up against a brick wall here, they're so brainwashed by conservative outlets that they begin to believe everything really IS a liberal conspiracy, and they won't change.

It's fun to throw mud at the wall and make fun of it but soon the fun wears off and you just end up throwing insults at it.

Don't let it get you that far. You should have walked away as soon as they started with the personal attacks.

The rest of us thought the link was funny, but we already knew that FOX wasn't the most reliable source for un-biased information. Hell back in September 12th 2001, I remember making a post where I was pissed that FOX was reporting stories that 30 minutes later they were retracting. Even the corespondent apologised saying something like, "Sometimes in a rush to be the first to report a story we don't verify the information we report."

We got it, now let the blind lead the blind, and laugh at the stories they tell themselves to justify their extreme right-wing beliefs.

Me brainwashed by conservative news outlets... Me believe all the Right wing propaganda that Newsweek, Time, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and NPR report. Me know that even though more than 90% of people in the news media are Democrats and/or liberals, they are endowed by their creator with a much better capacity to be objective than the evil Republican/conservatives.

Ah.... Care to show a source for that claim?

90% may have been an overstatement, but less than 10% are conservative or Republican. That leaves 90% that are moderate to liberal, independent to Democrat. Here is but one source, my friend...

More interesting info about the media and the public's perception of it. (circa 1996)

This is kinda funny...

So 139 Washington media members speak for the whole country? 61% liberal/moderate. 9% conservative/moderate. What happened to the other 30%?

Oh...and that link doesn't work.

But...from the same website:

"There is no convincing evidence that journalists infect their stories — intentionally or otherwise — with their own political prejudices....While a few studies suggest such a link, most are the handiwork of right-leaning groups and critics whose research methods can’t withstand scrutiny....The credibility of the media is not suffering because of a liberal bias; it’s suffering, in large part, because of the continuing charge of bias that has gone unanswered for too long." — Everette Dennis, Senior VP of the Freedom Forum, in the January-February 1997 edition of ASNE’s magazine, The American Editor.

Bernard Goldberg seems to disagree with her.

As far as only polling 139 Washington correspondants, since Washington is the center of the Federal government, (and national politics) and because many local news sources get stories from AP, Reuters, etc, these numbers are applicable to the nation. When it comes to local and state politics, your news source may be different, but if you are getting any news from the networks, there's a good chance it's skewed by the left leaning press in D.C.

Oh, and the missing 30% are probably Greens or Communist party members.

Well...not all of them. Some (maybe 1% of the 30%) are Nazi's and Fascists.

Back atcha.

The thing I find interesting is she said that after the poll you mentioned. I wonder about that. Either she didn't read that data, or they had something after it we haven't seen.

I agree with all of those points (except #3) but I think that the news is biased to be more conservative. Since that poll was done in '96 I think alot has changed, since 9/11 the news has gotten the idea that if you don't support the invasion of another country then you're "Un-patriotic" or soft on terrorism.

I can also see how they got the results from #3, I belive that many people (especially then) think of the news as being liberal biased because it shows both sides of the story, good and bad, and not just the "We're #1" typical US superiority.

If the news were liberal you'd see alot more stories on environmental conservation: we're running out of oil, Bush endorses more logging, weaker standards of arsnic in drinking water. And more stories about loss of civil rights; when was the last time you heard a story on the US PATRIOT Act? In my opinion the PATRIOT act and the PATRIOT Act II are some of the most un-constitutional things to happen to our country, yet the "Liberal" media hardly acknowledges its presence. The ACLU has the PATRIOT act plastered all over its web page but you never see any discussion about it on mainstream news.

Yeah, I forgot about Pat Buchanan...

I disagree, I think there are plenty of stories about the environment and how Bush is a "Big Oil" man who wants to ruin everything. Examples:

When Bush took office, he proposed letting the park service or the forest service do some selective clearing to prevent or reduce forest fires out west. This proposal was met with fierce opposition by democrats, some of whom had pushed through similar legislation that would allow their states to do just that. My observation was that the mainstream media only reported that Bush wanted to allow loggers access to public land. (please, report all the facts)

The topic of drilling in ANWAR came up and there was a lot of BS flying around. The press would readily report how drilling would harm the wildlife, yet they seldom mentioned the fact that elsewhere in Alaska, wildlife seems unimpacted by drilling. Bush was painted as pro-oil industry and anti-environment. Once again... my observation.

Bush has consistantly endorsed renewable energy sources, alternative fuels, hybrid technology, etc. He angered some in his own party by increasing the fuel economy standards for automobiles. Yet I have to go to Fox News, Neil Boortz or conservative websites to find anyone reporting on those topics. Everytime I tune in to CNN, ABC or CBS, there is report where an environmental activist is bashing the current administration for wanting to destroy the environment.

There's so much more to my reasoning that the media is liberal. But if it makes you feel any better, I watch and read a variety of news sources, not just Fox, and I'm skeptical of all of them.

As far as the Patriot Act goes, I don't know why the press hasn't reported on it. The legislation is way too intrusive. It reminds me of something that Clinton would have done. It proves that neither political party is interested in preserving our civil liberties.

holy flying monkeys batman this is still going on. i thought this was done when we all agreed that WilMac is full of shit and that link. everyone knows that the media is liberal and tries to point out conservatives problems at any given chance and downplay liberals. oh well who the hell cares, ALL politicians are cheats, crooks, sell-outs, and slimy bottom dwelling toilet trash. maybe some are decent humans but they are so few and far between they dont even matter. oh well just adding flames and nitro to the fire, my works done.