You have to realize your up against a brick wall here, they're so brainwashed by conservative outlets that they begin to believe everything really IS a liberal conspiracy, and they won't change.

It's fun to throw mud at the wall and make fun of it but soon the fun wears off and you just end up throwing insults at it.

Don't let it get you that far. You should have walked away as soon as they started with the personal attacks.

The rest of us thought the link was funny, but we already knew that FOX wasn't the most reliable source for un-biased information. Hell back in September 12th 2001, I remember making a post where I was pissed that FOX was reporting stories that 30 minutes later they were retracting. Even the corespondent apologised saying something like, "Sometimes in a rush to be the first to report a story we don't verify the information we report."

We got it, now let the blind lead the blind, and laugh at the stories they tell themselves to justify their extreme right-wing beliefs.

Me brainwashed by conservative news outlets... Me believe all the Right wing propaganda that Newsweek, Time, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and NPR report. Me know that even though more than 90% of people in the news media are Democrats and/or liberals, they are endowed by their creator with a much better capacity to be objective than the evil Republican/conservatives.

Ah.... Care to show a source for that claim?

90% may have been an overstatement, but less than 10% are conservative or Republican. That leaves 90% that are moderate to liberal, independent to Democrat. Here is but one source, my friend...

More interesting info about the media and the public's perception of it. (circa 1996)

This is kinda funny...

So 139 Washington media members speak for the whole country? 61% liberal/moderate. 9% conservative/moderate. What happened to the other 30%?

Oh...and that link doesn't work.

But...from the same website:

"There is no convincing evidence that journalists infect their stories — intentionally or otherwise — with their own political prejudices....While a few studies suggest such a link, most are the handiwork of right-leaning groups and critics whose research methods can’t withstand scrutiny....The credibility of the media is not suffering because of a liberal bias; it’s suffering, in large part, because of the continuing charge of bias that has gone unanswered for too long." — Everette Dennis, Senior VP of the Freedom Forum, in the January-February 1997 edition of ASNE’s magazine, The American Editor.

Bernard Goldberg seems to disagree with her.

As far as only polling 139 Washington correspondants, since Washington is the center of the Federal government, (and national politics) and because many local news sources get stories from AP, Reuters, etc, these numbers are applicable to the nation. When it comes to local and state politics, your news source may be different, but if you are getting any news from the networks, there's a good chance it's skewed by the left leaning press in D.C.

Oh, and the missing 30% are probably Greens or Communist party members.

Well...not all of them. Some (maybe 1% of the 30%) are Nazi's and Fascists.

Back atcha.

The thing I find interesting is she said that after the poll you mentioned. I wonder about that. Either she didn't read that data, or they had something after it we haven't seen.

I agree with all of those points (except #3) but I think that the news is biased to be more conservative. Since that poll was done in '96 I think alot has changed, since 9/11 the news has gotten the idea that if you don't support the invasion of another country then you're "Un-patriotic" or soft on terrorism.

I can also see how they got the results from #3, I belive that many people (especially then) think of the news as being liberal biased because it shows both sides of the story, good and bad, and not just the "We're #1" typical US superiority.

If the news were liberal you'd see alot more stories on environmental conservation: we're running out of oil, Bush endorses more logging, weaker standards of arsnic in drinking water. And more stories about loss of civil rights; when was the last time you heard a story on the US PATRIOT Act? In my opinion the PATRIOT act and the PATRIOT Act II are some of the most un-constitutional things to happen to our country, yet the "Liberal" media hardly acknowledges its presence. The ACLU has the PATRIOT act plastered all over its web page but you never see any discussion about it on mainstream news.

Yeah, I forgot about Pat Buchanan...

I disagree, I think there are plenty of stories about the environment and how Bush is a "Big Oil" man who wants to ruin everything. Examples:

When Bush took office, he proposed letting the park service or the forest service do some selective clearing to prevent or reduce forest fires out west. This proposal was met with fierce opposition by democrats, some of whom had pushed through similar legislation that would allow their states to do just that. My observation was that the mainstream media only reported that Bush wanted to allow loggers access to public land. (please, report all the facts)

The topic of drilling in ANWAR came up and there was a lot of BS flying around. The press would readily report how drilling would harm the wildlife, yet they seldom mentioned the fact that elsewhere in Alaska, wildlife seems unimpacted by drilling. Bush was painted as pro-oil industry and anti-environment. Once again... my observation.

Bush has consistantly endorsed renewable energy sources, alternative fuels, hybrid technology, etc. He angered some in his own party by increasing the fuel economy standards for automobiles. Yet I have to go to Fox News, Neil Boortz or conservative websites to find anyone reporting on those topics. Everytime I tune in to CNN, ABC or CBS, there is report where an environmental activist is bashing the current administration for wanting to destroy the environment.

There's so much more to my reasoning that the media is liberal. But if it makes you feel any better, I watch and read a variety of news sources, not just Fox, and I'm skeptical of all of them.

As far as the Patriot Act goes, I don't know why the press hasn't reported on it. The legislation is way too intrusive. It reminds me of something that Clinton would have done. It proves that neither political party is interested in preserving our civil liberties.

holy flying monkeys batman this is still going on. i thought this was done when we all agreed that WilMac is full of shit and that link. everyone knows that the media is liberal and tries to point out conservatives problems at any given chance and downplay liberals. oh well who the hell cares, ALL politicians are cheats, crooks, sell-outs, and slimy bottom dwelling toilet trash. maybe some are decent humans but they are so few and far between they dont even matter. oh well just adding flames and nitro to the fire, my works done.