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#206521 - 20/01/04 10:08 PM Re: State of the Union
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Teddy...Throw me a cold one!

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#206522 - 20/01/04 10:23 PM Re: State of the Union
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[QBTeddy...Throw me a cold one!

Dan[/QB]
LOL...good one! [LOL]
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#206523 - 20/01/04 10:40 PM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by Claus A Christensen:

Not sure if Pearl Jam actually wrote a tune for Canada, AND I have no leader, only a guy elected to Govern.......
I'm not sure either. However Pearl Jam is definitely a gay friendly band and Canada = gay friendly. After all, Vedder's father was gay.

Maybe you have no leader. I don't know. Do any of us have a leader we can really look up to today? It still doesn't mean you can't think of Martin as your leader. I remember you posting so much hope for him not long ago. It sure sounded like some pride in a leader.

Even so, it doesn't mean because someone is the leader of your country you have to agree with the way they govern.

You guys in Canada definitely need a lot more political dissent.

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#206524 - 20/01/04 10:44 PM Re: State of the Union
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Maybe make a drinking game out of it? Every clap [Wave] , you finish your drink?
We did down at my girlfrie d's bar. Every time Weapon of Mass Destructio n, Justice, Sept 11, terrorists (did me in) and many other things. Any time Ashcroft was on the bar chanted the Empireal March. Duh, Duh, Duh, Dunta Duh, Dunta Duh... It made the experience pass in a much more fun way.

One thing that sank in was the proposal for a Constitutional Admentment for get rid of gay marriage. I am 100% straight and 100% against this. At least it alienates the gay vote.

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#206525 - 21/01/04 01:16 AM Re: State of the Union
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It does sound like you had fun Steve.

Having trouble typing laugh
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#206526 - 21/01/04 03:56 AM Re: State of the Union
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Quote:
Originally posted by NismoXse02:
Quote:
Originally posted by XHawk:
[b]I'd rather dance in a prison cell with a big guy named Bubba than listen to Bush speak for that length of time!
Then don't watch. Frankly, anything "Bubba" did when he was president scared me, so I'll go with Bush. [LOL]

I love how people complain about watching a speech like they were "forced" to watch it. After not watching it and looking at the highlights, this is my favorite topic that he covered. It's about time. [ThumbsUp] [/b]
I didn't watch - read carefully. Nor did I complain. My life is too short to waste it listening to idiots, which I realized in Jan, 2001.

Get over yourself and start to adapt - the clown prince isn't much longer in the ivory tower.

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#206527 - 21/01/04 04:00 AM Re: State of the Union
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The REAL state of the union:

232: Number of American combat deaths in Iraq between May 2003 and January 2004

501: Number of American servicemen to die in Iraq from the beginning of the war - so far

0: Number of American combat deaths in Germany after the Nazi surrender to the Allies in May 1945

0: Number of coffins of dead soldiers returning home from Iraq that the Bush administration has allowed to be photographed

0: Number of funerals or memorials that President Bush has attended for soldiers killed in Iraq

100: Number of fund-raisers attended by Bush or Vice-President Dick Cheney in 2003

13: Number of meetings between Bush and Tony Blair since he became President

10 million: Estimated number of people worldwide who took to the streets in opposition to the invasion of Iraq, setting an all-time record for simultaneous protest

2: Number of nations that Bush has attacked and taken over since coming into the White House

9.2: Average number of American soldiers wounded in Iraq each day since the invasion in March last year

1.6: Average number of American soldiers killed in Iraq per day since hostilities began

16,000: Approximate number of Iraqis killed since the start of war

10,000: Approximate number of Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the conflict

$100 billion: Estimated cost of the war in Iraq to American citizens by the end of 2003

$13 billion: Amount other countries have committed towards rebuilding Iraq (much of it in loans) as of 24 October

36%: Increase in the number of desertions from the US army since 1999

92%: Percentage of Iraq's urban areas that had access to drinkable water a year ago

60%: Percentage of Iraq's urban areas that have access to drinkable water today

32%: Percentage of the bombs dropped on Iraq this year that were not precision-guided

1983: The year in which Donald Rumsfeld gave Saddam Hussein a pair of golden spurs

45%: Percentage of Americans who believed in early March 2003 that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks on the US

$127 billion: Amount of US budget surplus in the year that Bush became President in 2001

$374 billion: Amount of US budget deficit in the fiscal year for 2003

1st: This year's deficit is on course to be the biggest in United States history

$1.58 billion: Average amount by which the US national debt increases each day

$23,920: Amount of each US citizen's share of the national debt as of 19 January 2004

1st: The record for the most bankruptcies filed in a single year (1.57 million) was set in 2002

10: Number of solo press conferences that Bush has held since beginning his term. His father had managed 61 at this point in his administration, and Bill Clinton 33

1st: Rank of the US worldwide in terms of greenhouse gas emissions per capita

$113 million: Total sum raised by the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign, setting a record in American electoral history

$130 million: Amount raised for Bush's re-election campaign so far

$200m: Amount that the Bush-Cheney campaign is expected to raise in 2004

$40m: Amount that Howard Dean, the top fund-raiser among the nine Democratic presidential hopefuls, amassed in 2003

28: Number of days holiday that Bush took last August, the second longest holiday of any president in US history (Recordholder: Richard Nixon)

13: Number of vacation days the average American worker receives each year

3: Number of children convicted of capital offences executed in the US in 2002. America is only country openly to acknowledge executing children

1st: As Governor of Texas, George Bush executed more prisoners (152) than any governor in modern US history

2.4 million: Number of Americans who have lost their jobs during the three years of the Bush administration

221,000: Number of jobs per month created since Bush's tax cuts took effect. He promised the measure would add 306,000

1,000: Number of new jobs created in the entire country in December. Analysts had expected a gain of 130,000

1st: This administration is on its way to becoming the first since 1929 (Herbert Hoover) to preside over an overall loss of jobs during its complete term in office

9 million: Number of US workers unemployed in September 2003

80%: Percentage of the Iraqi workforce now unemployed

55%: Percentage of the Iraqi workforce unemployed before the war

43.6 million: Number of Americans without health insurance in 2002

130: Number of countries (out of total of 191 recognised by the United Nations) with an American military presence

40%: Percentage of the world's military spending for which the US is responsible

$10.9 million: Average wealth of the members of Bush's original 16-person cabinet

88%: Percentage of American citizens who will save less than $100 on their 2006 federal taxes as a result of 2003 cut in capital gains and dividends taxes

$42,000: Average savings members of Bush's cabinet are expected to enjoy this year as a result in the cuts in capital gains and dividends taxes

$42,228: Median household income in the US in 2001

$116,000: Amount Vice-President Cheney is expected to save each year in taxes

44%: Percentage of Americans who believe the President's economic growth plan will mostly benefit the wealthy

700: Number of people from around the world the US has incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

1st: George W Bush became the first American president to ignore the Geneva Conventions by refusing to allow inspectors access to US-held prisoners of war

+6%: Percentage change since 2001 in the number of US families in poverty

1951: Last year in which a quarterly rise in US military spending was greater than the one the previous spring

54%: Percentage of US citizens who believe Bush was legitimately elected to his post

1st: First president to execute a federal prisoner in the past 40 years. Executions are typically ordered by separate states and not at federal level

9: Number of members of Bush's defence policy board who also sit on the corporate board of, or advise, at least one defence contractor

35: Number of countries to which US has suspended military assistance after they failed to sign agreements giving Americans immunity from prosecution before the International Criminal Court

$300 million: Amount cut from the federal programme that provides subsidies to poor families so they can heat their homes

$1 billion: Amount of new US military aid promised Israel in April 2003 to offset the "burdens" of the US war on Iraq

58 million: Number of acres of public lands Bush has opened to road building, logging and drilling

200: Number of public-health and environmental laws Bush has attempted to downgrade or weaken

29,000: Number of American troops - which is close to the total of a whole army division - to have either been killed, wounded, injured or become so ill as to require evacuation from Iraq, according to the Pentagon

90%: Percentage of American citizens who said they approved of the way George Bush was handling his job as president when asked on 26 September, 2001

53%: Percentage of American citizens who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president when asked on 16 January, 2004

Sources: Vanity Fair magazine, Harper's Index, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, US Army (Washington), US Department of Defence, Iraqbodycount.net, Citizens for Tax Justice, Bureau of Economic Analysis (Washington), New York Times/CBS News Poll (NYC), US Department of Commerce, Cap Gemini Ernst & Young (NYC), Coalition Provisional Authority (Baghdad), World Health Organisation (Geneva), Office of Management and Budget (Washington), Centre for Responsive Politics (Washington), Bush-Cheney '04, Inc (Arlington, Va), Election Systems & Software (Omaha), United States Central Command (Tampa)

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#206528 - 21/01/04 04:27 AM Re: State of the Union
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Yup, this country is a fucking disgrace.

What exactly do Bush and Chaney do with $200M in campaign dollars ? How can you possibly spend all that on cardboard signs for front yards ?
Do they need a website ? I could make them a real nice one for $1M.

I know give you NY Madman, who will rebut every one of those points.
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#206529 - 21/01/04 05:13 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
$23 million pilot plan to encourage student drug testing in public schools... WTF???
That's an invasion of privacy. Sounds more Republican than Democrat to me.

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$300 million training and placement program to help newly released convicts find jobs...WTF???
Thats more lower income work for wealthy corporations. That sounds more Republican than Democrat to me.

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#206530 - 21/01/04 05:19 AM Re: State of the Union
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Sheesh; as if it wasn't bad enough I can't even get a job at Wal-Mart because of the illegals and disableds, now I'm going to be up against ex cons too? :rolleyes:
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#206531 - 21/01/04 05:30 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by xoc:
Yup, this country is a fucking disgrace.

I know give you NY Madman, who will rebut every one of those points.
it is "now" (lower case) not "know" [Finger]
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#206532 - 21/01/04 06:07 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by Aero Steve:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bn300:
[qb]

One thing that sank in was the proposal for a Constitutional Admentment for get rid of gay marriage. I am 100% straight and 100% against this.
Yep, that's pretty ominous. In a speech laden with variation son keeping Americans "Free and Safe", it boggles the mind that he would then propose a constitutional amendment to limit the freedoms of some Americans.

What the hell does it hurt to allow gays to marry? They pay taxes. They are members of society, like it or not. "Sanctity of marriage" is not a valid answer. The only marriage that one should be concerned with is their own. If Bob and Bob's wedding impacts someone's marriage, then that someone has some work to do at home.

A
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#206533 - 21/01/04 06:38 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by PackRat:

What the hell does it hurt to allow gays to marry? They pay taxes. They are members of society, like it or not. "Sanctity of marriage" is not a valid answer. The only marriage that one should be concerned with is their own. If Bob and Bob's wedding impacts someone's marriage, then that someone has some work to do at home.
Give me a break with your pro gay bullshit.

The sanctity of marriage is one of the valid arguments.

However people like you with sick twisted minds seem to feel that one man sticking his johnson in another guy's anus is some kind of behavior that everyone should celebrate as normal and acceptable. In your sick, perverted mind that is some type of sanctity.

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#206534 - 21/01/04 06:39 AM Re: State of the Union
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State of the Union in an Xterrapin World...

100% Apologies to the Islamic world for insulting them by building the World Trade Center and Pentagon in the first place

Yassar Arafat named President of new Palestine state in area formerly occupied by Israeli Zionists. 5 Million Jews enter concentration camps

U.S. National Security authority transferred to United Nations Security Council

SUV outlawed in 2002. Replaced by the Soviet Lada touring sedan.

"Great Leap Backward" federal socialist program is started

Federal Law mandates that children require 3 parents. Mother, Father and one flaming homosexual.

Supermarkets are outlawed. Anyone who wants toilet paper must wait on government line for two days the way it was meant to be.

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#206535 - 21/01/04 06:52 AM Re: State of the Union
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"I'll give you ten good reasons to re-elect me...."

laugh
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#206536 - 21/01/04 07:03 AM Re: State of the Union
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Quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
Quote:
Originally posted by PackRat:

What the hell does it hurt to allow gays to marry? They pay taxes. They are members of society, like it or not. "Sanctity of marriage" is not a valid answer. The only marriage that one should be concerned with is their own. If Bob and Bob's wedding impacts someone's marriage, then that someone has some work to do at home.
Give me a break with your pro gay bullshit.

The sanctity of marriage is one of the valid arguments.

However people like you with sick twisted minds seem to feel that one man sticking his johnson in another guy's anus is some kind of behavior that everyone should celebrate as normal and acceptable. In your sick, perverted mind that is some type of sanctity.
Giggle.

So...predictable. Knee jerk even.

Yep my mind is sick and twisted because I don't give a rat's ass wether or not a man marries a man or a woman marries a woman. It just doesn't affect me. Your mind however is not sick and perverted because you get your panties up in a bunch worrying about and imagining the actions of a group of people that you dislike intensely. Your logic is stunning.

How does gay marriage affect you? You hate gays, sure. But you hate a lot of things and people. What I'm asking is this: in your day to day life, how does the fact that gays can marry affect you? Your ability to carve out your life? Answer me that.

I gotta tell you son, there's a lot worse things going on out there than gays getting married.

Gay marriage is so unimportant compared with the other things on the national plate right now. A constitutional amendment? Are you really for that?

How about the economy and national security? I think those are a tad more important. And a tad more relevant to the average american.

A
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#206537 - 21/01/04 07:10 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by Andre the Giant:

"I'll give you ten good reasons to re-elect me...."

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#206538 - 21/01/04 07:26 AM Re: State of the Union
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Dang, wish I had had this yesterday...

Drinking Game

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#206539 - 21/01/04 07:38 AM Re: State of the Union
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Quote:
Originally posted by PackRat:

Quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by PackRat:

What the hell does it hurt to allow gays to marry? They pay taxes. They are members of society, like it or not. "Sanctity of marriage" is not a valid answer. The only marriage that one should be concerned with is their own. If Bob and Bob's wedding impacts someone's marriage, then that someone has some work to do at home.
Give me a break with your pro gay bullshit.

The sanctity of marriage is one of the valid arguments.

However people like you with sick twisted minds seem to feel that one man sticking his johnson in another guy's anus is some kind of behavior that everyone should celebrate as normal and acceptable. In your sick, perverted mind that is some type of sanctity.
Giggle.

So...predictable. Knee jerk even.

Yep my mind is sick and twisted because I don't give a rat's ass wether or not a man marries a man or a woman marries a woman. It just doesn't affect me. Your mind however is not sick and perverted because you get your panties up in a bunch worrying about and imagining the actions of a group of people that you dislike intensely. Your logic is stunning.

How does gay marriage affect you? You hate gays, sure. But you hate a lot of things and people. What I'm asking is this: in your day to day life, how does the fact that gays can marry affect you? Your ability to carve out your life? Answer me that.

I gotta tell you son, there's a lot worse things going on out there than gays getting married.

Gay marriage is so unimportant compared with the other things on the national plate right now. A constitutional amendment? Are you really for that?

How about the economy and national security? I think those are a tad more important. And a tad more relevant to the average american.

A[/b]
Well said PackRat.

[ThumbsUp]

Have you noticed that the people who hate homosexuals the most are the one's who are most fixated/graphic about gays sexual relations/acts? Personally, what happens behind their bedroom doors (as long as it's consensual and happens between people of legal age), is no business of mine.

Since marrage is a religious based insitution, my prediction is homosexuals won't get the title "Married", but in the near future, they will get all the Federal/State benefits that straight married couples now receive.
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#206540 - 21/01/04 07:39 AM Re: State of the Union
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Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
In case you missed it, here's the short version.

GWB: "blah, blah, blah"

applause from alcoholics

GWB: "blah, blah, blah"

applause from alcoholics

GWB: "blah, blah, blah"

applause from alcoholics
More scintillating than the original, Ian. Thanks!
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#206541 - 21/01/04 07:42 AM Re: State of the Union
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I thought that Ted Kennedy looked like a jackass, sitting there shaking his head and pouting like a little boy. I agree with a lot of what Bush has done and plans to do, I do disagree with some of it. I don't like the plans for the new Patriot act. The big thing that I always realize is that it is a tough job being President of The United States. Everyone always has something to say negative about the job the Prez is doing, but would have just as many problems themselves if they were in that position. The Democrats crack me up. If we had a Democratic President in office right now (Gore and Leiberman), the terrorists would have walked all over us. Could you imagine Leiberman as our president. He is like the kid that got the crap kicked out of him every day out on the playground! When election day comes around, I will vote for the best canidate (in my eyes). I will not vote for the leading Democrat, or Bush just because he is a Republican.
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#206542 - 21/01/04 07:43 AM Re: State of the Union
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0: Number of American combat deaths in Germany after the Nazi surrender to the Allies in May 1945
Why dont you post how many occupation soldiers died after the Nazi surrender in May 1945?
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#206543 - 21/01/04 07:48 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by PackRat
If Bob and Bob's wedding impacts someone's marriage, then that someone has some work to do at home.
Why did you have to name them Bob [Finger]
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#206544 - 21/01/04 07:49 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by MBFlyerfan:

Why dont you post how many occupation soldiers died after the Nazi surrender in May 1945?
Because he doesn't know. He is devoid of any original thought.

The only thing he knows is what's posted on anti-American/Commie web sites. Then he copies and pastes them here.

You have to feel sorry for him. He spent his childhood going to Black Panther rallies and anti-American protest marches.

Xterrapin was only taught WHAT to think. Not HOW to think.

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#206545 - 21/01/04 07:51 AM Re: State of the Union
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Originally posted by MyGoldX:

Why did you have to name them Bob
What do you call two gay guys named Bob?

Oral Roberts.

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