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#207717 - 17/05/03 12:35 PM
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I thought the movie had amazing dialogue. Really a well written script, it had actual depth, not just bullshit like so many movies today that were "thrown" together.
Amazing special effects. You have to remember: when something looks rediculous, in this movie, it's because Neo can manipulate the Matrix, that's why he's "the one."
And the wreck scene, with the two eighteen wheelers -- that scene, and at the end when Neo is going so fast it's breaking everything behind him, are probabyl the two best special effects I've ever seen in my life.
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#207720 - 17/05/03 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Snoopy:
a mindless roller-coaster ride of special effects just like every other movie and almost every commercial out these days. yay. i'm fuckin' impressed. manipulating multiple camera angles and manipulating frames after they've been shot does nothing for me. i find it ridiculous and boring. i thought "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Wires, er, Tiger" quite stupid, as well. Nick Park of Wallace & Gromit, now that's talent and creativity.
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#207721 - 17/05/03 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by sean yeager: Originally posted by Snoopy:
[b]a mindless roller-coaster ride of special effects
manipulating multiple camera angles and manipulating frames after they've been shot does nothing for me. i find it ridiculous and boring. i thought "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Wires, er, Tiger" quite stupid, as well.
Nick Park of Wallace & Gromit, now that's talent and creativity.[/b]There's a point at which you hit overkill. I've never seen Crouching Tiger, and my big fear is Matrix will have gone overboard on it.
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#207722 - 17/05/03 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by sean yeager:
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manipulating multiple camera angles and manipulating frames after they've been shot does nothing for me. i find it ridiculous and boring. i thought "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Wires, er, Tiger" quite stupid, as well.
Oh, well, if you enter Crouching Tiger in hopes to see an action movie, then of course you'll be disappointed. That's not the point.
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#207723 - 17/05/03 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Mobycat:
I've never seen Crouching Tiger, and my big fear is Matrix will have gone overboard on it. Matrix did go overboard on the effects. Such as the fight scene with the dozens of cloned "agents", it was fairly obvious that Neo was a computer animation. Sometimes nothing looked real.
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#207724 - 18/05/03 05:52 AM
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Does anybody not see movies anymore for the sheer enjoyment of letting the "everyday" slide into the backround for a couple of hours? Geez guys, I liked Battlefield Earth... Movies were created to take you away from the everyday grind of reality... I'll watch anything from an old B movie to Godzilla, to anime to pretty much anything else.... Do I like "deep" movies, sure, Trainspotting was a great movie, but do I want to be reminded of the tragedies of life etc... not all the time, so a mindless movie filled with philisophical drivel is excellent fodder for my senses.....
Crouching Tiger could have stood on it's own without any action scenes at all. The story itself was excellent.
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#207725 - 18/05/03 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by Samueul:
Crouching Tiger could have stood on it's own without any action scenes at all. The story itself was excellent. it annoyed the hell out of me. every scene pretty much spelled out what would happen later in the film, and i figured out the ending somewhere near the middle of the film. the "action" just further annoyed me throughout. i just wish films were made by people with real creativity. the writing and the story lines in most new films is horrible. taking old films and remaking them is getting obnoxious. oooooh, my car's faster than yooooooooooors!!! my gun's bigger than yoooooooors!!! the most notable new films i've seen are "Secretary" and "The Life of David Gale". at least in those there's a reason to pay attention throughout the film.
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#207726 - 19/05/03 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by Samueul:
Does anybody not see movies anymore for the sheer enjoyment of letting the "everyday" slide into the backround for a couple of hours? Geez guys, I liked Battlefield Earth... Movies were created to take you away from the everyday grind of reality... I'll watch anything from an old B movie to Godzilla, to anime to pretty much anything else.... Do I like "deep" movies, sure, Trainspotting was a great movie, but do I want to be reminded of the tragedies of life etc... not all the time, so a mindless movie filled with philisophical drivel is excellent fodder for my senses.....
Crouching Tiger could have stood on it's own without any action scenes at all. The story itself was excellent. Yes, they are fun. And I wouldn't mind spending $3, maybe $4 for a little mindless summer fun for a couple hours. But after $15 for tix, $4.50 for popcorn, $6.00 for two medium sodas, and a theater full of little shits who can't, or won't, turn off the cell-phones and pagers, I'm now broke and frustrated as I spend two hours watching the same movie a second time, with great special effects, that does not transport me anywhere. Instead, I sit there, fuming, for two hours about how bad the writing is, how pedestrian the plot is, and about how gullible and addle-brained the studios think (or maybe know?) I am . . . George Lucas still owes me $8.00 and two hours of my life back for "Phantom Menace" . . . BTW, Samueul . . . you thought Trainspotting was "deep"? ![[Freak]](graemlins/freak.gif)
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#207727 - 19/05/03 03:25 PM
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I thot I was the only person on earth who liked "Battlefield Earth".
The visuals from Crouching Tiger was very fluid and watching that movie was like watching poetry. The fight scenes were amazingly coreographed (sp?) and the story was impressive as well. (when I say "story" I mean the story of the sword, not the love story, which I think was lame.)
Considering nobody in Crouching Tiger has any martial arts background (except for Michelle Yeo), it makes the coreagraphy(sp?) that much more impressive.
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#207728 - 19/05/03 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by KJ_dragon:
Considering nobody in Crouching Tiger has any martial arts background (except for Michelle Yeo), it makes the coreagraphy(sp?) that much more impressive. Actually, all of the main actors in Crouching Tiger have martial arts and wire experience. The movie was released in China like two years before it appeared here, languished in limited release for six months, and then hit the big time.
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#207729 - 19/05/03 07:55 PM
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Crouching Tiger was was first shown at the Cannes Film Festival in the May of 2000 and released here in December of the same year. I saw it opening night. Ang Lee has enough Hollywood clout since The Ice Storm that anything he makes will be released here rather quickly. Hulk anyone?
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#207730 - 20/05/03 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by Graham: And I wouldn't mind spending $3, maybe $4 for a little mindless summer fun for a couple hours. But after $15 for tix, $4.50 for popcorn, $6.00 for two medium sodas, and a theater full of little shits who can't, or won't, turn off the cell-phones and pagers, I'm now broke and frustrated as I spend two hours watching the same movie a second time, with great special effects, that does not transport me anywhere. Instead, I sit there, fuming, for two hours about how bad the writing is, how pedestrian the plot is, and about how gullible and addle-brained the studios think (or maybe know?) I am . . . George Lucas still owes me $8.00 and two hours of my life back for "Phantom Menace" . . . BTW, Samueul . . . you thought Trainspotting was "deep"? Well, in this day and age, if you expect to pay any sort of dime for a "good" movie experience, you are setting yourself up for failure. If you truly want a "good" movie experience, you need a large screen tv and a nice surround sound system. Going to the theatre was NEVER a great experience... EVER. It's mediocre(sp) at best, all the time.... Maybe "deep" was the wrong term for Trainspotting. Trainspotting was a good portal into the life of a heroine addict, and I would like to think that life was portraited fairly spot on.... So it was edgy and an eye opener, and had some good shock to reality value.... You can't say it wasn't a good movie.
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#207733 - 04/06/03 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by gmaxis:
You must be a girl. ![[Finger]](graemlins/thefinger.gif) Girls enjoy action movies, too, thank you very much. I actually dozed off twice during this movie. There was too much personal story with the one guy (the one who replaced Tank, was it?) -- I don't care that his girlfriend doesn't want him to go. And I don't care about Morpheus' past lovers and who they're involved with now, either. Not to mention, why on earth did they spend all that time on the huge fight sequence with the multiplying Agents? After about 45 seconds, I'm yelling, "fly away for Christ's sake! Fly away!" It was pointless and added absolutely nothing to the story. Huge, huge disappointment. But I can't wait for the 3rd one to come out! 
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#207734 - 04/06/03 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by babyX: Huge, huge disappointment.
But I can't wait for the 3rd one to come out! so you can waste another (enter local movie price with drink and popcorn here)???
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