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#207692 - 14/05/03 08:56 PM I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Just saw The matrix reloaded, Morpheus dies in the last ten minutes of the movie. Action sequences are great, special effects are incredible and in my opinion the best part of the movie is any part with Monica Bellucci in it, I think she has replaced Selma Hayek as my future wife. Just wish she was naked in this movie like all the other movies with her that I have seen. Tickets for this movie will probably conitinue to sell out through the weekend.
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#207693 - 14/05/03 08:57 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Just Kidding [LOL]
Hopefully will get to see it tomorrow night.
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#207694 - 14/05/03 10:25 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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that's wrong! i was so mad that you had told us the end of the movie. good one though. laugh
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#207695 - 15/05/03 05:23 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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#207696 - 15/05/03 05:39 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Buffalo, you are a horrible, evil person. laugh
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#207697 - 15/05/03 05:45 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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#207698 - 15/05/03 10:10 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Couldn't help it, I was remembering when the first batman came out and people were waiting in line for hours, a friend of mine and I got to see the first showing since we had another friend that worked in the theatre. After the movie we walk out and see all these othe smucks waiting to see the movie. My friend gets in front of the whole crowd and yells "the joker dies, did you here me the joker dies" people were so pissed i thought they were going to riot and kick our ass. [LOL]
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#207699 - 15/05/03 10:38 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Before you watch a good movie, let me know. I would love to return the favor you did by spoiling the ending. mad
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#207700 - 15/05/03 10:39 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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hey gmaxis... you need to read the thread... it was a joke

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#207701 - 15/05/03 11:16 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Before you watch a good movie, let me know. I would love to return the favor you did by spoiling the ending. mad
It was a joke biggins, no worries.
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#207702 - 15/05/03 02:12 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Good one. I had my flamethrower set on dicentigrate! [Finger]
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#207703 - 15/05/03 03:44 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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watched the sneak preview last night...AWESOME!!!
remember to watch all the way through the ending credits you'll find a cool surprise wink

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#207704 - 15/05/03 04:08 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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....the best part of the movie is any part with Monica Bellucci in it, I think she has replaced Selma Hayek as my future wife. Just wish she was naked in this movie like all the other movies with her that I have seen.
I won't tell Carmen you said that, Jaime....
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#207705 - 16/05/03 10:28 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Hey kris, the sad part is she knows that i would swap her for Monica Bellucci or Selma Hayek in a heartbeat. She rolls her eyes everytime I make a comment about either one of them.
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#207706 - 16/05/03 11:54 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Would she dump you for Keanu Reeves?
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#207707 - 16/05/03 12:16 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Nope, I can't be replaced. i am irreplaceable! [Smoking]
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#207708 - 16/05/03 03:12 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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who gives a shit? the first one sucked. i'm not about to spend my time or money on the second. ever.

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#207709 - 16/05/03 04:09 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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You are basically alone in the world with that opinion Sean.
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#207710 - 16/05/03 07:05 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Hope it's action packed through out the entire movie, seems most movies advertised now show all the action shots in their advertisment and then when you go see it you've seen all the highlights already in the advertisment.
The previews/advertisment sure do look good though, enough to get me to check it out.

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#207711 - 16/05/03 08:58 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Yup he was just kidding. How can Morpheus die when he's still in Revolution? Anyway, I saw it this afternoon and I was at the edge of my seat, white-knuckled, gripping my wife so tightly, continually saying "wow!"

And then there's IMAX screening...

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hey gmaxis... you need to read the thread... it was a joke
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#207712 - 16/05/03 08:59 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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who gives a shit? the first one sucked. i'm not about to spend my time or money on the second. ever.
You must be a girl. If not, a tightwad.
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#207713 - 16/05/03 10:52 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Anyway, I saw it this afternoon and I was at the edge of my seat, white-knuckled, gripping my wife so tightly, continually saying "wow!"
I saw it today also, and I have to admit I enjoyed the action scenes, even though normally I'm not a big fan.

Though when it was done I realized that if all the action scenes were shorted to a minute, the whole movie would most likely be about 25 minutes. Barely any plot, though it was amazingly good.
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#207714 - 17/05/03 05:57 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Was it just me, or did the writing for this incarnation seem dumbed down.
I'm thinking of the scene where Neo and the counselor go for a walk....
But I guess with out much plot, there's room for that.
The fight sequences were impressive but predictable.

Don't get me wrong, go see it if you haven't, it's worth watching. Just don't expect it to have the impact of the first one.

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#207715 - 17/05/03 10:30 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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I just finished watching, what in my opinion is, a mindless roller-coaster ride of special effects, overused fight scenes, and stupid psycho-relativity blah-blah. Throw in a sex grunge scene and you've got a relative waste of time.

Maybe I'm getting too old?

The special effects: top notch. The movie: lame.

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#207716 - 17/05/03 11:43 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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a mindless roller-coaster ride of special effects, overused fight scenes, and stupid psycho-relativity blah-blah
That's what it says in Websters Dictionary under 'Summer Blockbuster'.
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#207717 - 17/05/03 12:35 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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I thought the movie had amazing dialogue. Really a well written script, it had actual depth, not just bullshit like so many movies today that were "thrown" together.

Amazing special effects. You have to remember: when something looks rediculous, in this movie, it's because Neo can manipulate the Matrix, that's why he's "the one."

And the wreck scene, with the two eighteen wheelers -- that scene, and at the end when Neo is going so fast it's breaking everything behind him, are probabyl the two best special effects I've ever seen in my life.

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#207718 - 17/05/03 01:17 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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not just bullshit like so many movies today that were "thrown" together.
Read: Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.
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#207719 - 17/05/03 01:23 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Now that this post is going...here's Ebert's take on it (kind of amusing, really):

"That will not prevent fanboys from analyzing the philosophy of "The Matrix Reloaded" in endless Web postings. Part of the fun is becoming an expert in the deep meaning of shallow pop mythology; there is something refreshingly ironic about becoming an authority on the transient extrusions of mass culture, and Morpheus (Laurence Fishburne) now joins Obi-Wan Kenobi as the Plato of our age."
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#207720 - 17/05/03 02:33 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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a mindless roller-coaster ride of special effects
just like every other movie and almost every commercial out these days. yay. i'm fuckin' impressed.

manipulating multiple camera angles and manipulating frames after they've been shot does nothing for me. i find it ridiculous and boring. i thought "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Wires, er, Tiger" quite stupid, as well.

Nick Park of Wallace & Gromit, now that's talent and creativity.

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#207721 - 17/05/03 03:01 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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[b]a mindless roller-coaster ride of special effects
just like every other movie and almost every commercial out these days. yay. i'm fuckin' impressed.

manipulating multiple camera angles and manipulating frames after they've been shot does nothing for me. i find it ridiculous and boring. i thought "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Wires, er, Tiger" quite stupid, as well.

Nick Park of Wallace & Gromit, now that's talent and creativity.[/b]
There's a point at which you hit overkill. I've never seen Crouching Tiger, and my big fear is Matrix will have gone overboard on it.
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#207722 - 17/05/03 08:14 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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manipulating multiple camera angles and manipulating frames after they've been shot does nothing for me. i find it ridiculous and boring. i thought "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Wires, er, Tiger" quite stupid, as well.
Oh, well, if you enter Crouching Tiger in hopes to see an action movie, then of course you'll be disappointed. That's not the point.
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#207723 - 17/05/03 08:16 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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I've never seen Crouching Tiger, and my big fear is Matrix will have gone overboard on it.
Matrix did go overboard on the effects. Such as the fight scene with the dozens of cloned "agents", it was fairly obvious that Neo was a computer animation. Sometimes nothing looked real.
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#207724 - 18/05/03 05:52 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Does anybody not see movies anymore for the sheer enjoyment of letting the "everyday" slide into the backround for a couple of hours? Geez guys, I liked Battlefield Earth... Movies were created to take you away from the everyday grind of reality... I'll watch anything from an old B movie to Godzilla, to anime to pretty much anything else.... Do I like "deep" movies, sure, Trainspotting was a great movie, but do I want to be reminded of the tragedies of life etc... not all the time, so a mindless movie filled with philisophical drivel is excellent fodder for my senses.....

Crouching Tiger could have stood on it's own without any action scenes at all. The story itself was excellent.
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#207725 - 18/05/03 08:26 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Crouching Tiger could have stood on it's own without any action scenes at all. The story itself was excellent.
it annoyed the hell out of me. every scene pretty much spelled out what would happen later in the film, and i figured out the ending somewhere near the middle of the film. the "action" just further annoyed me throughout.

i just wish films were made by people with real creativity. the writing and the story lines in most new films is horrible. taking old films and remaking them is getting obnoxious. oooooh, my car's faster than yooooooooooors!!! my gun's bigger than yoooooooors!!!

the most notable new films i've seen are "Secretary" and "The Life of David Gale". at least in those there's a reason to pay attention throughout the film.

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#207726 - 19/05/03 08:07 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Does anybody not see movies anymore for the sheer enjoyment of letting the "everyday" slide into the backround for a couple of hours? Geez guys, I liked Battlefield Earth... Movies were created to take you away from the everyday grind of reality... I'll watch anything from an old B movie to Godzilla, to anime to pretty much anything else.... Do I like "deep" movies, sure, Trainspotting was a great movie, but do I want to be reminded of the tragedies of life etc... not all the time, so a mindless movie filled with philisophical drivel is excellent fodder for my senses.....

Crouching Tiger could have stood on it's own without any action scenes at all. The story itself was excellent.
Yes, they are fun.

And I wouldn't mind spending $3, maybe $4 for a little mindless summer fun for a couple hours.

But after $15 for tix, $4.50 for popcorn, $6.00 for two medium sodas, and a theater full of little shits who can't, or won't, turn off the cell-phones and pagers, I'm now broke and frustrated as I spend two hours watching the same movie a second time, with great special effects, that does not transport me anywhere. Instead, I sit there, fuming, for two hours about how bad the writing is, how pedestrian the plot is, and about how gullible and addle-brained the studios think (or maybe know?) I am . . .

George Lucas still owes me $8.00 and two hours of my life back for "Phantom Menace" . . .

BTW, Samueul . . . you thought Trainspotting was "deep"?

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#207727 - 19/05/03 03:25 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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I thot I was the only person on earth who liked "Battlefield Earth".

The visuals from Crouching Tiger was very fluid and watching that movie was like watching poetry. The fight scenes were amazingly coreographed (sp?) and the story was impressive as well. (when I say "story" I mean the story of the sword, not the love story, which I think was lame.)

Considering nobody in Crouching Tiger has any martial arts background (except for Michelle Yeo), it makes the coreagraphy(sp?) that much more impressive.
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#207728 - 19/05/03 07:27 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Considering nobody in Crouching Tiger has any martial arts background (except for Michelle Yeo), it makes the coreagraphy(sp?) that much more impressive.
Chow Yun-Fat anyone?

Actually, all of the main actors in Crouching Tiger have martial arts and wire experience. The movie was released in China like two years before it appeared here, languished in limited release for six months, and then hit the big time.
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#207729 - 19/05/03 07:55 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Crouching Tiger was was first shown at the Cannes Film Festival in the May of 2000 and released here in December of the same year. I saw it opening night. Ang Lee has enough Hollywood clout since The Ice Storm that anything he makes will be released here rather quickly. Hulk anyone?

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#207730 - 20/05/03 04:05 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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And I wouldn't mind spending $3, maybe $4 for a little mindless summer fun for a couple hours.

But after $15 for tix, $4.50 for popcorn, $6.00 for two medium sodas, and a theater full of little shits who can't, or won't, turn off the cell-phones and pagers, I'm now broke and frustrated as I spend two hours watching the same movie a second time, with great special effects, that does not transport me anywhere. Instead, I sit there, fuming, for two hours about how bad the writing is, how pedestrian the plot is, and about how gullible and addle-brained the studios think (or maybe know?) I am . . .

George Lucas still owes me $8.00 and two hours of my life back for "Phantom Menace" . . .

BTW, Samueul . . . you thought Trainspotting was "deep"?

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Well, in this day and age, if you expect to pay any sort of dime for a "good" movie experience, you are setting yourself up for failure. If you truly want a "good" movie experience, you need a large screen tv and a nice surround sound system. Going to the theatre was NEVER a great experience... EVER. It's mediocre(sp) at best, all the time....

Maybe "deep" was the wrong term for Trainspotting. Trainspotting was a good portal into the life of a heroine addict, and I would like to think that life was portraited fairly spot on.... So it was edgy and an eye opener, and had some good shock to reality value.... You can't say it wasn't a good movie.
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#207731 - 20/05/03 06:23 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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I just saw this movie last night. What I wouldn't give to have those 2 hours back. What a crappy sequel. They could have done so much with this movie. What a borefest. [Sleep]

For those who haven't seen it it goes like this....way boring beginning...action...boring dialogue....action....boring dialogue....action...
[Sleep]
It reminded me of the latest Star Wars installments. Some ok action/SFX interspersed with dull, droll, who gives a crap dialogue. Man, they so blew it with this script. [Sleep]

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#207732 - 20/05/03 06:21 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Turned on the E channel and they were already talking about matrix 3 coming out in Nov. [Freak]

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#207733 - 04/06/03 06:02 AM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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You must be a girl.
[Finger] Girls enjoy action movies, too, thank you very much.

I actually dozed off twice during this movie. There was too much personal story with the one guy (the one who replaced Tank, was it?) -- I don't care that his girlfriend doesn't want him to go.

And I don't care about Morpheus' past lovers and who they're involved with now, either.

Not to mention, why on earth did they spend all that time on the huge fight sequence with the multiplying Agents? After about 45 seconds, I'm yelling, "fly away for Christ's sake! Fly away!" It was pointless and added absolutely nothing to the story.

Huge, huge disappointment.

But I can't wait for the 3rd one to come out! laugh
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#207734 - 04/06/03 12:58 PM Re: I saw "Matrix reloaded" Morpheus dies
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Huge, huge disappointment.

But I can't wait for the 3rd one to come out! laugh
so you can waste another (enter local movie price with drink and popcorn here)???

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