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#209139 - 12/10/05 08:16 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Originally posted by off2cjb:
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Originally posted by porsche996:
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
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Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
I agree with you a lot, but this time you're full of shit. Teach the kids proper use and put them through a hunter safety program. Then be an active PARENT. My dad did it with his 3 sons, and I've taught my son how to use the weapons too. No problems. Ever.
Yeah! I mean, that plan worked for Dylan Kliebold and Eric Harris too! :rolleyes: [/b]
those weren't 6 year olds that stumbled onto a gun at the house.

those were deranged teenagers, that bought guns for their own use. Different story. Different arguement.

But if they had been raised right, maybe they wouldn't have been little bastards, afterall...

Go back to your hole. Your opinions are worthless.[/b]
They were reported to have been raised "right".
Is that why they were able to amass such an array of weapons in their parents houses without them knowing about it? Great parenting. :rolleyes:
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#209140 - 12/10/05 09:44 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Originally posted by coferj:
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Originally posted by off2cjb:

I agree and sort of support your argument, but it only takes [b]ONE time. Only one. Why play those odds when you don't have too. I fully support the 2nd admendment and served 13 years protecting that admendment, but you know what, the British aren't coming.[/b]
I love it when people pull that BS...yea, the brits aren't coming, but all of those ghetto babies that welfare supports are...and when they step in my home, and intend on doing my family and I harm, they're going to leave looking like swiss cheese.[/QB]
Or so you think. People like you who always claim you will pull out your gun and blast the bad guys away usually are the ones who end up dead when the bad guys take your gun off your pissed pants self and shoot you dead. No one ever knows what they will or won't do until it happens.

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#209141 - 12/10/05 09:45 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Originally posted by Paul Hartwig:
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Originally posted by off2cjb:
[b]
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Originally posted by porsche996:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
quote:
Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
I agree with you a lot, but this time you're full of shit. Teach the kids proper use and put them through a hunter safety program. Then be an active PARENT. My dad did it with his 3 sons, and I've taught my son how to use the weapons too. No problems. Ever.
Yeah! I mean, that plan worked for Dylan Kliebold and Eric Harris too! :rolleyes: [/b]
those weren't 6 year olds that stumbled onto a gun at the house.

those were deranged teenagers, that bought guns for their own use. Different story. Different arguement.

But if they had been raised right, maybe they wouldn't have been little bastards, afterall...

Go back to your hole. Your opinions are worthless.[/b]
They were reported to have been raised "right".
Is that why they were able to amass such an array of weapons in their parents houses without them knowing about it? Great parenting. :rolleyes:

Like you never hid cigarettes or booze or drugs from your parents in their own house. Come on Paul, put your liberal spin hat away and come back to reality.

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#209142 - 12/10/05 10:20 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Originally posted by off2cjb:
Come on Paul, put your liberal spin hat away and come back to reality.
Not to dampen your argument (because for once we're on the same side...shudder), but his viewpoint isn't very liberal as you would normally define it. [Wave]

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#209143 - 12/10/05 10:37 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Registered: 17/12/01
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Loc: Montgomery, AL
Quote:
Originally posted by off2cjb:
Quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by off2cjb:

I agree and sort of support your argument, but it only takes [b]ONE time. Only one. Why play those odds when you don't have too. I fully support the 2nd admendment and served 13 years protecting that admendment, but you know what, the British aren't coming.[/b]
I love it when people pull that BS...yea, the brits aren't coming, but all of those ghetto babies that welfare supports are...and when they step in my home, and intend on doing my family and I harm, they're going to leave looking like swiss cheese.[/b]
Or so you think. People like you who always claim you will pull out your gun and blast the bad guys away usually are the ones who end up dead when the bad guys take your gun off your pissed pants self and shoot you dead. No one ever knows what they will or won't do until it happens.[/QB]
If you would read the posts instead of hastily posting your ignorance...err, I mean opinion, you would remember the story I shared before you lowbrows started in...here, don't want you to break a fingernail clicking away in a frenzy...

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Originally posted by Coferj:
have a 12ga next to my bed...no kids, but things won't change. I grew up with guns all through the house, and for the same reasons listed above, I didn't touch. I was taught gun safety very,very thoroughly.

I've been broken into once before, and one of them had a gun on them...the only thing that saved me was that I happened to be a light sleeper at that time in my life, and he didn't like the idea of sticking around to get sprinkled with pellets, although I know I caught him with a few...can't really be sure, all I saw was a$$holes and elbows.
So how do you take your shut up juice, nancy?
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#209144 - 12/10/05 10:56 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Eggscellent story. My old rommmate's Dad also has saved his ass and another woman's ass with his handgun and did not have to pull the trigger either time. It happens all the time.
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#209145 - 12/10/05 11:11 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Quote:
Originally posted by 2001frontier:
It happens all the time.
OH please. This board has the highest percentage of "people who know other people who shot intruders". The only place I hear about these gunslinging heroes is on this board every time gun control is discussed.

I work for a PD in a large metro area. I've never heard of anything like this happening in the five years I've been working here.

Before that, I was a news photographer, and NOTHING like this ever came across our police scanner.

You all are so full of BS you could fertilize Montana with it.

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#209146 - 12/10/05 11:26 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Registered: 17/12/01
Posts: 713
Loc: Montgomery, AL
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
Quote:
Originally posted by 2001frontier:
[b]It happens all the time.
OH please. This board has the highest percentage of "people who know other people who shot intruders". The only place I hear about these gunslinging heroes is on this board every time gun control is discussed.

I work for a PD in a large metro area. I've never heard of anything like this happening in the five years I've been working here.

Before that, I was a news photographer, and NOTHING like this ever came across our police scanner.

You all are so full of BS you could fertilize Montana with it.[/b]
Well, I don't know what to tell you hawaii 5-0...it happened, that's that. I sprayed the concrete block privacy wall around the pool with 12 ga. pellets trying to hit him in complete darkness. Never was caught, but he never came back...that was also when we started looking into alarm systems, too. I don't and never have lived in a big city. Where I grew up was very rural back in the day (and to some, would still be considered as such), so I guess that some thought that they would be able to get away with it. No street lights, nearest neighbor about 1/2-3/4 of a mile away...but back then ALL country boys packed.
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#209147 - 12/10/05 11:39 AM Re: Guns in the house?
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Originally posted by coferj:
No street lights, nearest neighbor about 1/2-3/4 of a mile away...but back then ALL country boys packed.
Ooooookay, Wyatt. :rolleyes:

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#209148 - 12/10/05 12:21 PM Re: Guns in the house?
Paul H Offline
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Registered: 23/08/01
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Loc: Mt. Zion, IL
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
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Originally posted by off2cjb:
[b]Come on Paul, put your liberal spin hat away and come back to reality.
Not to dampen your argument (because for once we're on the same side...shudder), but his viewpoint isn't very liberal as you would normally define it. [Wave] [/b]
Liberal viewpoint?

I never hid smokes because I didn't smoke. I tried them once hated them. Never hid booze (got that at friends). Never hid drugs because I never in my life and still to this day have not done illegal drugs. Yes I hid things (porn, condoms, etc.) but come on.

Hiding above mentioned items is far different than hiding enough weapons and explosives to supply a small army. Spin you whatever hat whichever way you want it. It was poor parenting plain and simple.
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#209149 - 12/10/05 12:37 PM Re: Guns in the house?
coferj Offline
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Registered: 17/12/01
Posts: 713
Loc: Montgomery, AL
Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
Quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
[b]No street lights, nearest neighbor about 1/2-3/4 of a mile away...but back then ALL country boys packed.
Ooooookay, Wyatt. :rolleyes: [/b]
Excuse me, jackass...I don't remember you growing up near me, but perhaps you did...b/c you evidently know so much about my life. So, if your years of ambulance chasing exposed you to so much of the world, even Rural Alabama, please enlighten us. I'm not posting any of this for your pathetic validation, I'm posting to show my opinion on this topic.

Don't you have some tickets to hand out or something?
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#209150 - 12/10/05 12:47 PM Re: Guns in the house?
off2cjb Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
Quote:
Originally posted by off2cjb:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by off2cjb:

I agree and sort of support your argument, but it only takes [b]ONE time. Only one. Why play those odds when you don't have too. I fully support the 2nd admendment and served 13 years protecting that admendment, but you know what, the British aren't coming.[/b]
I love it when people pull that BS...yea, the brits aren't coming, but all of those ghetto babies that welfare supports are...and when they step in my home, and intend on doing my family and I harm, they're going to leave looking like swiss cheese.[/b]
Or so you think. People like you who always claim you will pull out your gun and blast the bad guys away usually are the ones who end up dead when the bad guys take your gun off your pissed pants self and shoot you dead. No one ever knows what they will or won't do until it happens.[/b]
If you would read the posts instead of hastily posting your ignorance...err, I mean opinion, you would remember the story I shared before you lowbrows started in...here, don't want you to break a fingernail clicking away in a frenzy...

Quote:
Originally posted by Coferj:
have a 12ga next to my bed...no kids, but things won't change. I grew up with guns all through the house, and for the same reasons listed above, I didn't touch. I was taught gun safety very,very thoroughly.

I've been broken into once before, and one of them had a gun on them...the only thing that saved me was that I happened to be a light sleeper at that time in my life, and he didn't like the idea of sticking around to get sprinkled with pellets, although I know I caught him with a few...can't really be sure, all I saw was a$$holes and elbows.
So how do you take your shut up juice, nancy?[/QB]

Got a copy of the police report?

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#209151 - 12/10/05 12:50 PM Re: Guns in the house?
coferj Offline
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I'm sure I could get a copy, but sorry, don't have one handy being that it was about 9 years ago
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#209152 - 12/10/05 12:51 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
[b]No street lights, nearest neighbor about 1/2-3/4 of a mile away...but back then ALL country boys packed.
Ooooookay, Wyatt. :rolleyes: [/b]
Excuse me, jackass...I don't remember you growing up near me, but perhaps you did...b/c you evidently know so much about my life. So, if your years of ambulance chasing exposed you to so much of the world, even Rural Alabama, please enlighten us. I'm not posting any of this for your pathetic validation, I'm posting to show my opinion on this topic.
[/b]
And I'm posting my opinion that you and anyone else on this board that claims to have stopped a crime or knows someone who has because they had a gun handy, is full of shit.

I've been in more crime infested areas, covering nastier stories than you can imagine, and I've NEVER heard of anyone ever saving someone else because they had a gun handy. If that ever happened, it would be the first story on the news.

You know why you never hear that story on the news? Because it never f*cking happens.

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#209153 - 12/10/05 12:53 PM Re: Guns in the house?
coferj Offline
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Registered: 17/12/01
Posts: 713
Loc: Montgomery, AL
Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
Quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by coferj:
No street lights, nearest neighbor about 1/2-3/4 of a mile away...but back then ALL country boys packed.
Ooooookay, Wyatt. :rolleyes: [/b]
Excuse me, jackass...I don't remember you growing up near me, but perhaps you did...b/c you evidently know so much about my life. So, if your years of ambulance chasing exposed you to so much of the world, even Rural Alabama, please enlighten us. I'm not posting any of this for your pathetic validation, I'm posting to show my opinion on this topic.
[/b]
And I'm posting my opinion that you and anyone else on this board that claims to have stopped a crime or knows someone who has because they had a gun handy, is full of shit.

I've been in more crime infested areas, covering nastier stories than you can imagine, and I've NEVER heard of anyone ever saving someone else because they had a gun handy. If that ever happened, it would be the first story on the news.

You know why you never hear that story on the news? Because it never f*cking happens.

Didn't say someone else, bobo...I said that I was broken into, and that the only thing that probably saved ME was being a light sleeper and having my gun handy.
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#209154 - 12/10/05 01:00 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Originally posted by coferj:
Didn't say someone else, bobo...I said that [b]I was broken into, and that the only thing that probably saved ME was being a light sleeper and having my gun handy.[/b]
Ok ok...you OR anyone else. :rolleyes:

And you're still full of shit, Gunslinger.

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#209155 - 12/10/05 01:18 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 4114
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA. USA
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:
And I'm posting my opinion that you and anyone else on this board that claims to have stopped a crime or knows someone who has because they had a gun handy, is full of shit.

I've been in more crime infested areas, covering nastier stories than you can imagine, and I've NEVER heard of anyone ever saving someone else because they had a gun handy. If that ever happened, it would be the first story on the news.

You know why you never hear that story on the news? Because it never f*cking happens.
And I'm posting to tell you, that you're full of shit.

When we were just dating, my wife lived in Pittsburgh's Hill District. Anybody from the area, nows about the "Hill". Guy broke into her house from the kitchen, and we were right on the other side of the door. I had my Star .40, and I yelled that I was armed, and whoever it was retreated. So there's one instance right there.
Edit to add: Yes, even after serving in Desert Storm etc, I was still pretty scared....

Two: My uncle shot a guy at almost point blank in the chest with a 10 gauge shotgun up in wexford about 18 years ago. Guy was coming up the steps, and was armed, though my uncle didn't know it at the time. My uncle turned the corner of the hallway, pointed and fired. He new it was an intruder, cause his room was the last in their hallway and he checked his 3 kids(my cousins) rooms as he crept down the hallway. It never even went to court as the police found a .25 in the man's posession.

So there you go. Call me a liar or full of it if you want, but it happened.

You never hear the story in the news because that would paint a positive picture for handgun ownership and the media can't have that......
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#209156 - 12/10/05 01:25 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
And I'm posting my opinion that you and anyone else on this board that claims to have stopped a crime or knows someone who has because they had a gun handy, is full of shit.

I've been in more crime infested areas, covering nastier stories than you can imagine, and I've NEVER heard of anyone ever saving someone else because they had a gun handy. If that ever happened, it would be the first story on the news.

You know why you never hear that story on the news? Because it never f*cking happens.
Maybe you should get out more often:

Cincinnati, OH:

Store Clerk Allegedly Shoots, Kills Robber

Logan, UT:

Courier Clobbers Would-be Robber

San Antonio, TX:

Would-Be Burglars Hit Wrong House

Wilmingotn, NC:

Carolina Beach homeowner kills intruder in self defense

There's plenty more, Willy Mac... Evidently, you're not the all-knowing god of the universe that you thought.

How's that foot taste?

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#209157 - 12/10/05 01:25 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Originally posted by Samueul:
You never hear the story in the news because that would paint a positive picture for handgun ownership and the media can't have that......
Do you all honestly think we sit around the newsroom and say "Gee...how can we slant this to promote our liberal agenda?"

Come on. Don't be so stupid. A great story is what gets airtime, and someone stopping a robber by shooting them is going to get some airtime.

I'm still calling BS on these stories. 99.9% of the time, these things never happen, but somehow this board has attracted 100% of the people who have saved themselves by gun ownership. Nobody else finds that patently amazing?

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#209158 - 12/10/05 01:28 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 4114
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA. USA
Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
Quote:
Originally posted by Samueul:
[b]You never hear the story in the news because that would paint a positive picture for handgun ownership and the media can't have that......
Do you all honestly think we sit around the newsroom and say "Gee...how can we slant this to promote our liberal agenda?"

Come on. Don't be so stupid. A great story is what gets airtime, and someone stopping a robber by shooting them is going to get some airtime.

I'm still calling BS on these stories. 99.9% of the time, these things never happen, but somehow this board has attracted 100% of the people who have saved themselves by gun ownership. Nobody else finds that patently amazing?[/b]
Yep, I sure do, just as you can sit there and call my character into question by basically calling me a liar, I can call yours into question by saying you slant your journalism to further whatever agenda....
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#209159 - 12/10/05 01:29 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Registered: 20/12/01
Posts: 4932
Loc: Fort Worth, TX
Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
Quote:
Originally posted by 2001frontier:
[b]It happens all the time.
OH please. This board has the highest percentage of "people who know other people who shot intruders". The only place I hear about these gunslinging heroes is on this board every time gun control is discussed.

I work for a PD in a large metro area. I've never heard of anything like this happening in the five years I've been working here.

Before that, I was a news photographer, and NOTHING like this ever came across our police scanner.

You all are so full of BS you could fertilize Montana with it.[/b]
Hmm, you think maybe it might have something to do with it being illegal in DC to defend yourself with a gun? eek
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#209160 - 12/10/05 01:30 PM Re: Guns in the house?
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by porsche996:
Maybe you should get out more often:

Cincinnati, OH:

Store Clerk Allegedly Shoots, Kills Robber

Logan, UT:

Courier Clobbers Would-be Robber

San Antonio, TX:

Would-Be Burglars Hit Wrong House

Wilmingotn, NC:

Carolina Beach homeowner kills intruder in self defense

There's plenty more, Willy Mac... Evidently, you're not the all-knowing god of the universe that you thought.

How's that foot taste?
Wow...four whole stories from over a year and a half ago...Whew. You're right. This shit happens all the time. :rolleyes:

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#209161 - 12/10/05 01:33 PM Re: Guns in the house?
Anonymous
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
Hmm, you think maybe it might have something to do with it being illegal in DC to defend yourself with a gun? eek
Not when I work in Northern Virginia. Just because I say I'm in DC doesn't mean that the local news doesn't cover the entire DC AREA...

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#209162 - 12/10/05 01:33 PM Re: Guns in the house?
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by porsche996:
[qb]Maybe you should get out more often......
Just because you're unaware doesn't mean it didn't happen.......



laugh

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#209163 - 12/10/05 01:34 PM Re: Guns in the house?
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Sorry; that's just a few of what I came up with, in a matter of seconds. If you REALLY want to spend the time proving yourself wrong, then by all means, look it up yourself. Here's a good start. These are JUST from the month of May, 2004:

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/archives/2004_05_01_archive.html

Here are some from April, 2004:

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/archives/2004_04_01_archive.html

Or how about March, 2004:

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/archives/2004_03_01_archive.html

or maybe February 2004:

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/archives/2004_02_01_archive.html

or maybe you prefer January 2004?

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/archives/2004_01_01_archive.html

From looking through there, it looks like there's about 1 incident, every 2 days in the US, dipshit. That's 182 a year. So again, evidently your pedestool isn't high enough to see the whole US... 'Cause you missed out on over 1,800 of these incidents in the last decade.

Just in case you're stupid, and haven't figured it out, yet, you can just change the date in each of those links, for whatever month you want, and get a whole long-ass list proving you're a dumbass. [Finger]

For example, there were 110 incidents last month (that's 3.7 of 'em A DAY):

http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/archives/2005_09_01_archive.html

Maybe you should get your head out of the sand. Whatever news channel you watch underneath your rock isn't telling you much of what's going on in the US.

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