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#215423 - 06/06/03 07:01 AM Too shocking for words.
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What the hell is wrong with society?
I will never understand something like this. They say they were listening to Helter Skelter before they did it. That statement alone reeks of them trying to trick liberals into blaming the music. These kids knew what they were doing. Mother Fuckers. mad
Isn't 15 a little too old to be graduating from 8th grade?
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#215424 - 06/06/03 07:09 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Death penalty for all of them.
Murder is murder, I don't care if your 13 or 100, it's the chair for all of them. I'd even pull the switch.
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#215425 - 06/06/03 07:19 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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I hope is was worth it for them. Hmm, Ill' give you $125, but in return you get fucked in the ass in prison until you are old and gray. Somehow I dont think $125 bucks would be enough for me. Stupid stupid stupid.
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#215426 - 06/06/03 07:27 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Send them to Texas. He have no qualms about pulling the switch on them.

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#215427 - 06/06/03 07:35 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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With friends like that, who needs enemies?

String 'em all up.
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#215428 - 06/06/03 07:51 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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In the immortal words of Metallica...

"Kill 'em all"

mad mad mad mad
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#215429 - 06/06/03 07:55 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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This case shouldn't spend more than 5 minutes on trial, and everyone party to this should be taken out back and shot right in the face. Why drag this out, put these f*ckers in jail for years, and try to rehabilitate them.... This is pure sickness. They should be killed. If it was my own son I'd tell him I was sorry, and put him down myself.... This is sick...
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#215430 - 06/06/03 08:59 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Sickening. I agree, put them all to death and quickly. They don't deserve to live and use up other peoples tax money.
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#215431 - 06/06/03 09:22 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Honest question; what make this case different than practically any other "murder for money" case out there?
Their age?
Their race?
I don't get it.
Why is this news? confused
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#215432 - 06/06/03 09:26 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by xterrapin:
Honest question; what make this case different than practically any other "murder for money" case out there?
Their age?
Their race?
I don't get it.
Why is this news? confused
I would think it's the age factor and the amount of "effort" put into it... Just seems so cynister... I agree though. all murderers should just be shot in the face....
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#215433 - 06/06/03 09:32 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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"He'll get what he deserves," Batzig's father said the other day.
At least one of the parents is not trying to defend their poor little innocent child.

Oh yeah, kill them all quickly.
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#215434 - 06/06/03 09:35 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by mbflyerfan:
They say they were listening to Helter Skelter before they did it. That statement alone reeks of them trying to trick liberals into blaming the music.
They weren't trying to trick liberals. They were trying to trick anyone they could.

Not even original, anyway. They must have been reading about Manson.
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#215435 - 06/06/03 09:41 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Quote:
Originally posted by xterrapin:
Honest question; what make this case different than practically any other "murder for money" case out there?
Their age?
Their race?
I don't get it.
Why is this news? confused
Is Brent on vacation and you are filling in for him?
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#215436 - 06/06/03 09:50 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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ok just a observation(playing devils advocate)

...funny that the article never once used the word "Alleged" but instead states everything as if the trial is over.

"Innocent until proven guilty" and all that. remember.

with that said... I think they need to FRY the little fuckers. Seriously. Thats just fucked up and they are fucked up people who will never be able to exist in normal society.

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#215437 - 06/06/03 09:56 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by Todrick:
"Innocent until proven guilty"
Change that to "Innocent until proven wealthy"
:p
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#215438 - 06/06/03 11:05 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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You stole the words out of my mouth Quido. It is obviuos why this is news. A group of children beat another child to death for a little money. I say give them the needle.
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#215439 - 06/06/03 11:28 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by Todrick:
...funny that the article never once used the word "Alleged" but instead states everything as if the trial is over.
"sources said"
"according to police"
"she allegedly asked"
"detectives said"
"according to police sources"
"according to law enforcement sources"
"police said"
"according to a source familiar with the injuries"
"according to sources"
"she allegedly"
"alleged perpetrators"
"alleged planning"

What article were you reading?

Not to mention the fact that the word "alleged" has a negative air surrounding it that sounds worse than saying "according to police", as they did in this article.
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#215440 - 06/06/03 11:49 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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As in all cases like this...

The punishment should fit the crime. Murder should automatically equal the death penalty. Its just a shame that serial murders can only die once, even though they deserve to die many times over.

[nerdy mode] It reminds me of that episode of Star Trek Voyager when the penalty for murder was you had to relive your victims last moments before you killed them. You had to relive this every hour for the rest of your life. This way, you can never forget the pain you inflicted and the horrible experience it was. [end nerdy mode]
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#215441 - 06/06/03 11:57 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by KJ_dragon:
[nerdy mode] It reminds me of that episode of Star Trek Voyager when the penalty for murder was you had to relive your victims last moments before you killed them. You had to relive this every hour for the rest of your life. This way, you can never forget the pain you inflicted and the horrible experience it was. [end nerdy mode]
So, uh, how exactly does someone kill another person with five nubile young blond bisexual women and three cans of whipped cream?

Yeah, I confess, I was the killer . . .
You gonna punish me? [Smoking]
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#215442 - 06/06/03 12:37 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by Graham:
So, uh, how exactly does someone kill another person with five nubile young blond bisexual women and three cans of whipped cream?

Yeah, I confess, I was the killer . . .
You gonna punish me? [Smoking]
You know Graham, you're not all bad... :p
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#215443 - 06/06/03 12:38 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Graham:
So, uh, how exactly does someone kill another person with five nubile young blond bisexual men and three cans of whipped cream?

Yeah, I confess, I was the killer . . .
You gonna punish me? [Smoking] [/QUOTE]

You go stud smile
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#215444 - 06/06/03 12:51 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Quote:
Originally posted by MyGoldX:
Quote:
Originally posted by Graham:
[b]
So, uh, how exactly does someone kill another person with five nubile young blond bisexual gerbils and three cans of whipped cream?

Yeah, I confess, I was the killer . . .
You gonna punish me? [Smoking]
You go stud smile [/b][/QUOTE]

LOL, I had to read that twice... Hilarious..!!!
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#215445 - 06/06/03 12:58 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Oh, you guys are so mean!

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#215446 - 06/06/03 02:04 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Sorry guys, that just raises the hair on my neck when I read that story. I share all the sentiments of you guys on their final demise. I wonder if it will even make it to trial before one of the victim's parents shoots em dead. I dont blame em if they do. I'd shake their hand and buy them a drink. Awful awful awful... mad mad mad
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#215447 - 06/06/03 04:06 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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I was down in their neighborhood this afternoon (picking up some cheese babka at the excellent Polish bakery there) and it's all the old ladies were talking about.
They don't really mention in the article how the neighborhood is really low income and borders a very high drug traffic zone. If you want the really hard stuff in Philadelphia this is where you go. Hell, last year a black family bought a house in nearby Kensington and the locals broke in and trashed the place before they moved in. Lots of tension thereabouts.

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#215448 - 06/06/03 06:25 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by Todrick:
ok just a observation(playing devils advocate)

...funny that the article never once used the word "Alleged" but instead states everything as if the trial is over.

"Innocent until proven guilty" and all that. remember.

with that said... I think they need to FRY the little fuckers. Seriously. Thats just fucked up and they are fucked up people who will never be able to exist in normal society.
That is because they all confessed. the girl was also charged today as well.
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#215449 - 06/06/03 07:32 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by Samueul:
This case shouldn't spend more than 5 minutes on trial, and everyone party to this should be taken out back and shot right in the face.
Can we maybe add, 'assuming the facts are correct as presented in the story'? Things aren't always what they appear to be.

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#215450 - 09/06/03 08:07 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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what in the hell is wrong with people. this is crazy. i would much rather raise my son on the moon. this is very disturbing.
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#215451 - 10/06/03 08:55 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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and people at work wonder why i enjoy offroading with my sons every weekend. it gets us away from the crap in this world and lets us enjoy the country and life.
what a sick world we live in, and to have it brought to us by way of t.v., paper, radio, net whatever on a constant basis, it's a wonder any of us are still sane.
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#215452 - 11/06/03 07:55 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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#215453 - 11/06/03 12:30 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Just ANOTHER example of some worthless pieces of shit. And that goes for the supposed "witness" cited in that article as well, particularly if he knew beforehand what was planned and didn't do anything to try and stop it. It doesn't matter if he actually took part in the robbery and murder....prior knowledge, and refusal to act on it, make him as worthless as the actual actors, in my mind.

Fuck them all. The death sentence would be too merciful for them. A lifetime of being fucked up the ass would be more suitable....if only our tax dollars didn't have to feed and clothe and shelter them while they sucked some other degenerate's dick. Ah....fuck it....kill them.
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#215454 - 11/06/03 02:31 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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This is a case where the neighborhood and friends of the victim should get together and burn down the homes of the killers paerents while they sleep to ensure an end to the breeding cycle.....
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#215455 - 13/06/03 07:27 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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And Justina Morley, an attractive, 15-year-old student at Holy Name of Jesus School whom Jason liked, was the bait.



Why am I the only one who thinks this is some bad reporting?
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#215456 - 14/06/03 07:52 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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And Justina Morley, an [b]attractive, 15-year-old student at Holy Name of Jesus School whom Jason liked, was the bait.



Why am I the only one who thinks this is some bad reporting?[/b]
Two things, notice the large forehead, obviously she hasnt evolved up to the rest of us yet. Second, 15 and still in the 8th grade? Jeez, she must be an idiot.
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#215457 - 18/06/03 04:17 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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#215458 - 18/06/03 02:28 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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It's so bad that just shooting the piles of feces would be letting them off too easy. I'd like to hear of some really inventive things that could be done to them. Then vote on it.
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#215459 - 18/06/03 02:48 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt Peckham:
Quote:
And Justina Morley, an [b]attractive, 15-year-old student at Holy Name of Jesus School whom Jason liked, was the bait.



Why am I the only one who thinks this is some bad reporting?[/b]
Imagine the ones we don't see being described as attractive...
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#215460 - 18/06/03 07:13 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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I'm suprised that Michael Moore hasn't chimed in saying how this was done because of racism.

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#215461 - 18/06/03 07:21 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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What'choo talkin' 'bout, Mr. Omerta?

I know that at least the victim and the female perp were white...

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#215462 - 22/06/03 08:17 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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#215463 - 23/06/03 01:46 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Kinda reminds me of the movie....'Bully'
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#215464 - 23/06/03 06:51 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Kinda reminds me of the movie....'Bully'
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#215465 - 24/06/03 07:13 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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And when they are sent to prison, they will be crying like pussies. Punks.

Life without parole, is the best way to punish these punks. I wouldn't mind paying to support them in prison knowing that they will live the rest of their lives in misery. They deserve what they get.

I believe in forgiveness, but I also believe in restitution. A few short years from now, they will all be saying, "what the fuck were we thinking?"

They need to take them to a prison rock quarry, and shackle them to the ground so they can pound big rocks into little ones for the rest of their pathetic lives.
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#215466 - 24/06/03 08:20 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by aquamander:

They need to take them to a prison rock quarry, and shackle them to the ground so they can pound big rocks into little ones for the rest of their pathetic lives.
Something is going to be getting pounded all right, its going to be thier small bungholes getting ass-pounded into big bungholes.
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#215467 - 24/06/03 03:30 PM Re: Too shocking for words.
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I keep getting these images of the Shawshank Redemption [Uh Oh !] when I here this story...and I realize that there is justice for some! What goes around comes around...
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#215468 - 25/06/03 10:30 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Maybe they should be sent to "Federal Pound-me-in-the-Ass Prison"?

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#215469 - 25/06/03 11:04 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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Originally posted by ashleynatlanta:
Maybe they should be sent to "Federal Pound-me-in-the-Ass Prison"?
I sentence you to 5 years in federal, "pound me in the ass prison". Office Space, gotta love it. wink
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#215470 - 28/06/03 08:00 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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#215471 - 01/07/03 05:17 AM Re: Too shocking for words.
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