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#396683 - 30/08/05 08:21 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Bryan,

Give me a call and I will answer all your questions and take down your info. 877-474-7625

Short answer on the winch question though is...no. The bumper will work with most winches up to 9500 lbs.

We havent tested an integrated solenoid in the 2005 bumper yet. I think one will fit, but it's still pending testing.
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#396684 - 31/08/05 06:52 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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TJ an Jim,

Thanks for all of the good information. Jim I will certainly be in touch with you soon.

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#396685 - 03/09/05 08:07 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Shrock- Any chance on a side view of the prototype? Love what I see so far. Can't wait to see the final product.

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#396686 - 06/09/05 07:20 AM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Jim,

This may be a silly question, but how much more does the bumper stick out (i.e. how much longer does it make the vehicle). A weird question, but I've got a very small garage that I park in and inches might make the difference smile

Brendan

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#396687 - 06/09/05 04:28 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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If its like the pre-'05's...it might stick out LESS than the stock bumper.

laugh
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2001 Xterra '03 VG33, SE 5 spd, 305/70/16's, Revolvers, UBSkidderz, Doubled AAL's, 3"SL/2"BL, winch/bumpers, skids, sliders, OBA, Snorkel, pine stripes....

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#396688 - 07/09/05 07:32 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Can those wheel wells be cut out? The bumper is amazing looking and fits the lines of the X to a tee, but if those wheel wells cant be modified, I'm even more unimpressed with the 2005 X.
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#396689 - 07/09/05 08:50 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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If you are talking about the "skirts" inside the wheel wells... yes, you can heat them up and mold them just a bit. The rear wheel well is where the size limitation will be hit - I don't think that skirt has any give in it.

If you are unimpressed with the 05, you need to give them another try... really, its amazing what they have done. Fix the rear leafs (with a nice 5" lift), give me an extra set of rims that fit for my Goodyear MT/Rs... and I think you will be very impressed.
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#396690 - 07/09/05 11:32 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xterra Adam:
Any chance on a Titan bumper?
Ditto, for my Armada. laugh

The only thing I've seen is by KMA... I don't care for it for some reason. Just doesn't look right to me.
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#396691 - 08/09/05 12:29 AM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Wow! this sneak peak is awesome. Don't let Calmini see the prototype wink

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#396692 - 08/09/05 05:38 AM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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The '05's wells were large enough to take 33's w/o trimming, so I'm not sure where the problem is...I have an '01, and needed to trim to get 31's on let alone 33's....and I now have 33's, but with trimming, 2" BL and 3" SL.

laugh
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#396693 - 08/09/05 05:57 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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2000-2004 X's did not have a FRONT wheel well like the 2005's do. All you did was remove the stock bumper, add whatever aftermarket bumper or your liking and you had tremendously improved approach. On the 2005's, it appears that just removing the front bumper does not simply give you improved approach since the wheel well still needs to be removed to truly benefit any improved approach the bumper can provide.



I could be wrong, but in this picture the wheel well appears to be metal. Can this simply be removed or do you need to go crazy cutting to get rid of it?
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#396694 - 08/09/05 07:09 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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The stuff you are seeing in the yellow area is a rubbery plastic material. It can be trimmed with a stout set of scissors.





Once I get Rev 2 on, I'll look more closely, but I havent seen any down side short of the low radiator and the wiring harness running UNDER the pass body mount (green arrows). The radiator becomes a non-issue with a skid plate, since it is still higher that the A-arms and cross member. Sliders cover the body mount. Otherwise I am quite impressed with the 2005. Everything is generally tucked up nicely and quite beefy.
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#396695 - 10/09/05 12:50 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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I have a quick question:

Is there an airbag sensor in the bumper that might be affected after the bumper change? Does the new bumper affect the 05 airbag system at all?

Thanks,
Nicolas.

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#396696 - 10/09/05 09:17 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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no & no.
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#396697 - 10/09/05 10:43 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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shrock thank you for all the work you are doing its nice to see someone really taking pride in their work. i cant wait to be the first in RI to have one (that is unless RIxterra gets one first) do you have any stickers i would really like to put one on my X and on my fire truck laugh keep up the go work!!

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#396698 - 11/09/05 07:10 AM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Originally posted by rimedic:
shrock thank you for all the work you are doing its nice to see someone really taking pride in their work. i cant wait to be the first in RI to have one (that is unless RIxterra gets one first) do you have any stickers i would really like to put one on my X and on my fire truck laugh keep up the go work!!
You'd be the first 05 in RI to have the front bumper.. wink I own an 02 with a front bumper on it already..

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#396699 - 11/09/05 09:52 AM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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SWEET! i still have to get with you about the stickers and getting in to the new england club Nice X

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#396700 - 12/09/05 06:57 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Jim - the bumper looks awesome! A couple of questions. Are you going to offer any package deals with\without a winch? Also, are there going to be any issues getting to the oil filter or drain plug? I don't think so, but couldn't tell from the picture.

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#396701 - 05/10/05 10:40 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Jim, will this bumper require stronger suspension up front? Cannot wait to get this thing!

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#396702 - 06/10/05 12:44 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Winch bumpers themselves add around 100 lb or so...less than a passenger typically...would you upgrade the suspension if you joined a car pool?

laugh

The weight is foward of the wheels though, so there is more polar moment than for an equivalent passenger...but thats a handling not a load capacity issue really.

Adding a winch can almost double the weight if its a big one with steel rope and a roller fairlead, etc...

Anyway - Better shocks will help control the extra polar moments, etc...and you can always crank the t-bars if you notice a bit of front end sag.

laugh

I didn't see a huge difference on my '01 when the bumper went on, but I went with synthetic line and an Al fairlead to cut half the winch weight.
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2001 Xterra '03 VG33, SE 5 spd, 305/70/16's, Revolvers, UBSkidderz, Doubled AAL's, 3"SL/2"BL, winch/bumpers, skids, sliders, OBA, Snorkel, pine stripes....

Friends don't let friends drive stock.

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#396703 - 06/10/05 01:34 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
...and you can always crank the t-bars if you notice a bit of front end sag.
[LOL] wish it was that easy for an 05

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#396704 - 06/10/05 01:43 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Coil spacers actually.

smile
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2001 Xterra '03 VG33, SE 5 spd, 305/70/16's, Revolvers, UBSkidderz, Doubled AAL's, 3"SL/2"BL, winch/bumpers, skids, sliders, OBA, Snorkel, pine stripes....

Friends don't let friends drive stock.

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#396705 - 06/10/05 09:16 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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No, I would not get suspension for an extra passenger. I don't know what your experience is with winch bumpers, but the Calmini bumper caused my 2000 X to bottom out on every bump on the highway. It even changed the way it drove .I had to purchase stronger torsion bars and crank them up to keep the front from sagging. Calmini even suggested stronger torsion bars to me over the phone. My 2005 feels way more solid in the suspension department and I don't expect to have to change anything. I don't know the wt of the Srock bumper.

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#396706 - 07/10/05 03:10 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
Winch bumpers themselves add around 100 lb or so...less than a passenger typically...would you upgrade the suspension if you joined a car pool?

laugh

The weight is foward of the wheels though, so there is more polar moment than for an equivalent passenger...but thats a handling not a load capacity issue really......
It's a significant loading issue. A front seat passenger's weight is distrubed between the front and rear wheels, whereas a 200# bumper/winch setup is in front. My statics are a little rusty, but it should be something like this:

[img]http://www.whitescarver.com/erinjeff/Xterra/bumper.bmp[/img]

About a 18% difference in weight distribution. BIG deal. Stronger springs recommended.

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#396707 - 10/10/05 07:40 PM Re: 05 Bumper input needed
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dammmm
that boomarang came right on back around....

diagrams and math are a little hard to argue with

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