Originally posted by mummer43:
Does anyone know of a website where I can order one? Can I get one at my dealer? What's a reasonable price for one?

Originally posted by Toy4x4Guy:
I haven't done exhaust on my Xterra, but when I had dual exhaust put on my Tacoma it only cost me $70 for the Flowmaster muffler, and $100 for the labor to put dual pipes on. That's $170 total which is MUCH cheaper than any aftermarket exhaust system. I was very happy with the setup, and it sounded like a Mustang GT to boot.

If you wanna hear the exhaust I had goto www.tn-tacomas.com and click on "Maintenance and Modifications" . There's a "Flowmaster Install" link that has sound clips, pictures, and video. That'll give you an idea of what it will sound like on an Xterra.

Originally posted by SpenceJT:
I'm going with the Gibson stainless steel bolt on replacement. It is in the same price range.

Originally posted by stormy:

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If you wanna hear the exhaust I had goto www.tn-tacomas.com and click on "Maintenance and Modifications" . There's a "Flowmaster Install" link that has sound clips, pictures, and video. That'll give you an idea of what it will sound like on an Xterra.

What flowmaster did you go with, the 3 chamber or 4?[/QB]

Originally posted by mummer43:
Does anyone know of a website where I can order one? Can I get one at my dealer? What's a reasonable price for one?

Originally posted by SpenceJT:
Thanks Stormy,

Perhaps I've got it backwards. I though that Stainless Steel would have less (or slower) corrosion when compared to aluminium.

I'm in Wisconsin, and when we aren't salting our pretzels and drinking beer, we are salting the damn roads!

Guys? Which one should I go with here?

The most prominent questions have been about the different grades of stainless we use in our manufacturing process. Unlike the S/S tips and the muffler, which are made from 304 polished stainless; the tubes are made of 16 GA./409 stainless (which is the same grade of stainless used in your Nissan Xterra factory exhaust system). If you are unfamiliar with grades of stainless, please understand that 409 stainless contains small metal fragments, which allows the steel to be easily manipulated for the precision of mandrel bending, and not become "brittle". These metal fragments will discolor and attract surface rust when exposed to inclement weather but please be assured that the integrity of the stainless steel is not compromised by this reaction to the elements. We are so confident, in the quality of our stainless steel products, that we warranty our stainless exhaust systems against rust-through for as long as the original purchaser owns that vehicle.

This message is to let you know that how disappointed I am with Gibson.

I already expressed the dissatisfaction with the excessive rust issue with my exhaust and how it was handled in this email:

Hello,
My name is Norman Hall. I bought your Stainless Steel cat back exhaust system for my 2001 Nissan Xterra. I recently made a warranty claim for rust issues with my system.

I bought the system from Spencer Low Racing on their recommendation. At the time I was shopping around looking at the HKS, Stillen, Borla, and Nissan was about to come out with their Sport exhaust.

When I installed the system, I like the sound, performance, and the look. Within 6 months, the system is rusting and I am NOT satisfied with the appearance. I spoke with Spencer and he agreed the rust did look excessive and forwarded the photo's to Gibson. Within a week, got received a letter from Gibson explaining the rust is normal because of the grade metal used. I am not satisfied with your explanation. I don't agree with the letter and still feel that something NEEDS to be done. The reason I bought a stainless system is I wanted a clean looking system that would last a long time. I take great pride in my truck and as it stands right now, I am not satisfied at all with the appearance of the system.

I've seen the Borla and the Stillen systems on other cars and they look great, even after 6 months. Even my friend's stock exhaust looks better than the state of my Gibson.

I looked on your website to see if any of this is documented and didn't find anything about the type of metal used. I also looked at you FAQ to see if this is a frequently asked question. I didn't see anything explaining that this is normal. In my opinion, there is nothing to indicate that this was expected. To me, and probably most people, stainless steel means it won't rust.

Feel free to contact me so this can be resolved.

Work- 603-xxx-xxxx
Home- 781-xxx-xxxx
Cell- 781-xxx-xxxx

Thanks,
Norman Hall

I got a call back from a very pleasant woman in your sales department (Teri) explaining the options that Gibson was considering for solving my problem (one of witch was refunding my money). It seems that you opted to refund my money minus a 15% processing fee ($55.35). Let me quote your warranty from your web page.

"What does this warranty cover
All products sold are to be free of defects in material and workmanship from the date of purchase within the United States."

I feel that if you decide to refund someone's money, refund it. What you have managed to do is leave a sour taste in my mouth about buying or recommending your products to anyone.

Please reply to this message and tell me what actions Gibson, if any, are going to take.

Regards,
Norman Hall