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#513066 - 19/01/06 06:33 PM AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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I have finally completed the entire write up for the three different parts that they offer. I have talked to Jane at AC and she has made some mention of it on their site as well. This is every thing that you will need to do in order to successfully complete the lift kit in either the shackle or AAL form. Sorry there are no pictures for the AAL at this time. I'm working on getting one of these on there. When I get my AAL I will take the needed pics and will update the site as needed.

To view the complete writeup and install directions click here .

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#513067 - 19/01/06 07:37 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Great write-up so far Dan... can't wait tto see the rest and see the finished product!!! [ThumbsUp]

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#513068 - 19/01/06 07:47 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Thanks,

Did you have any questions so far? Just trying to see if anyone is having a hard time following the instructions or understanding anything.

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#513069 - 19/01/06 08:15 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Instructions are great Dan. I can't wait to get my lift. It should ship out tommorow. I think I'll do the same thing as you did and take the springs in to the susp shop to compress and swap.
When you tryed it with the spring compressor, what was the problem? You mention a spring length issue?
What kind of drive line, CV angle does your front end have now? Do you have any pics of this?

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#513070 - 19/01/06 08:29 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Quote:
Originally posted by XCanuck:
Instructions are great Dan. I can't wait to get my lift. It should ship out tommorow. I think I'll do the same thing as you did and take the springs in to the susp shop to compress and swap.
When you tryed it with the spring compressor, what was the problem? You mention a spring length issue?
What kind of drive line, CV angle does your front end have now? Do you have any pics of this?
The problem that I was referring to is that you have to compress the new springs a total of 6" to get them back together again. This will cause the teeth of the compressor to get stuck. You'll have to use a pry bar to force them back out which IMHO is way to dangerous. I'll take them into a shop. I can't do that until next week though since the hobby shop is closed on Mondays and Tuesdays. The next time that I have off is Friday. By the time I got the new spring compressed that's when I stopped. I didn't take the old one off yet as I wanted to make sure the other one would be able to be compressed enough.

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#513071 - 19/01/06 08:45 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Can't wait to see the rest of the install:)
Thanks for all your help posting pics and detailed advice. Saving me the hard knocks!

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#513072 - 20/01/06 10:42 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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I have just finished the rest of the install write up. Please let me know if you have any questions.

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#513073 - 20/01/06 10:49 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Get some finished pics please

-G

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#513074 - 20/01/06 11:05 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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I'll get the finish product look right after I get mine installed. I promise. laugh

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#513075 - 20/01/06 11:16 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Great write up. I have been under many cars over the years and two things that bothered me about your process.

One, using the sliders as a jack stand point. Now I have a lot of faith that this point would hold up the vehicle, but I still wouldn't use it. I would instead slide the stand in 5 more inches and put it under the frame. There is no chance of vehicle falling then.

Also, for the rear shackle install, using a floor jack without a jack stand. I have seen my share of hydraulic floor jacks give out and I would not want to be sticking my arms under there with only the floor jack holding it up. Again, jack stands under the frame would be best.

Also, what you call a gasket, wouldn't that actally be called a bushing?

One other thing, I would suggest putting in there about using wheel chalks.

I have only been around the off-roading scene a short time, but one of the things I have noticed, people who have never worked on a car in their life will install mods. This is a great thing and I would fully encourage it, but you just have to make sure you are watching out for your safety when under a vehicle. An improperly secured vehicle is just as dangerous (if not more so) than a spring compressor.

AC should send these instructions with their kits (if that wasn’t already the idea).

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#513076 - 20/01/06 11:45 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Originally posted by Muzikman:
Great write up. I have been under many cars over the years and two things that bothered me about your process.

One, using the sliders as a jack stand point. Now I have a lot of faith that this point would hold up the vehicle, but I still wouldn't use it. I would instead slide the stand in 5 more inches and put it under the frame. There is no chance of vehicle falling then.

Also, for the rear shackle install, using a floor jack without a jack stand. I have seen my share of hydraulic floor jacks give out and I would not want to be sticking my arms under there with only the floor jack holding it up. Again, jack stands under the frame would be best.

Also, what you call a gasket, wouldn't that actally be called a bushing?

One other thing, I would suggest putting in there about using wheel chalks.

I have only been around the off-roading scene a short time, but one of the things I have noticed, people who have never worked on a car in their life will install mods. This is a great thing and I would fully encourage it, but you just have to make sure you are watching out for your safety when under a vehicle. An improperly secured vehicle is just as dangerous (if not more so) than a spring compressor.

AC should send these instructions with their kits (if that wasn’t already the idea).
Thanks.

I made the corrections as you recommended. Thanks for proof-reading and replying back. Not sure if they were going to make any or not. When I talked with them they said they didn't make any up becuase it's just swapping out parts and it's not that hard.

I was like screw that. I'll make one up for my good friends so they don't have to take forever in trying to figure out the exact size sockets that they have to use, etc.

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#513077 - 20/01/06 02:15 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Dan,

A few questions. In your write-up you make several references to a "3/4" inch drive. Do you really mean a 3/8 inch drive? I don't see how a 3/4 inch drive would be needed for nuts and bolts of the size you are working with. Also the fastners (nuts and bolts) on the Xterra are metric sizes. You might consider giving the correct metric wrench sizes rather the inch size that is close. 3/4 is 19mm, 9/16 is 14mm, 11/16 is 17mm. The pictures are great.

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#513078 - 21/01/06 04:36 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Yeah, I meant a 3/8" drive. My bad. I'll have to go in and change them out.

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#513079 - 21/01/06 08:20 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Hi, Dan, Chuck Dennis from Virginia Beach. New to the XTerra; I've got some elementary questions I'd like to ask you about local stuff. Any way to contact you? I tried local info and your number's unlisted. My number:373-3795.
Thanks
Chuck

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#513080 - 21/01/06 08:41 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dan Galusha:
I have finally completed the entire write up for the three different parts that they offer. I have talked to Jane at AC and she has made some mention of it on their site as well. This is every thing that you will need to do in order to successfully complete the lift kit in either the shackle or AAL form. Sorry there are no pictures for the AAL at this time. I'm working on getting one of these on there. When I get my AAL I will take the needed pics and will update the site as needed.

To view the complete writeup and install directions click here .
Nice write up and pictures Dan. That was a lot of work. I try to do that but I get so into the task at hand, I forget what I am doing. But you're good at it or sure.

MC

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#513081 - 21/01/06 11:59 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Originally posted by cdennis137:
Hi, Dan, Chuck Dennis from Virginia Beach. New to the XTerra; I've got some elementary questions I'd like to ask you about local stuff. Any way to contact you? I tried local info and your number's unlisted. My number:373-3795.
Thanks
Chuck
Sent you a pm.

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#513082 - 21/01/06 05:54 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Dan,
I would like pass on my thanks for the great write up and pictures of the install. I was on the AC site and it said " Amount of front lift will be limited depending on which coil over shock you are using. Different models have different shocks so degree of lift may vary". I have a 06 OR does this mean I will get less lift than say S model? Also am I missing somthing because I would like to see some side pics of your X with the new stance. PLEASE

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#513083 - 21/01/06 06:47 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Dan, thanks for the great writeup, but get some pictures of your rig wth the new stance up laugh . Could you measure how tall it is to highest point on your X, or just to the top of the stock rack if you have anything on top of that. I should be getting an X sometime soonish and I want to make sure it would fit in my garage before I go and do any mods. Also, is there any word as to why the shackles/AAL can't be used in conjunction and will AC be making an extension kit for the ABS wiring as well as the brake lines? Oh, one more thing, what size tires do you have on your X and what do you think is the maximum size that could be stuffed in there with just the 2.5SL?
Thanks,
Max

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#513084 - 22/01/06 03:45 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Originally posted by Dirt Dog:
Dan,
I would like pass on my thanks for the great write up and pictures of the install. I was on the AC site and it said " Amount of front lift will be limited depending on which coil over shock you are using. Different models have different shocks so degree of lift may vary". I have a 06 OR does this mean I will get less lift than say S model? Also am I missing somthing because I would like to see some side pics of your X with the new stance. PLEASE
I believe that they are saying that you'll get a little less then that since you have Bilsteins in the rear? I don't think that you have any different kind of shocks in the front so they should be equal across the board as far as that is concerned. I'm not really sure what they mean by that since the shocks are totally the same other then the Bilsteins in the rear being a little firmer then the ones on the other platforms. The OR doesn't sit any higher then the other models. I have to call Jane tomorrow any how so I need to find out what is meant by that.

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#513085 - 22/01/06 03:48 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Originally posted by MaxTrax:
Dan, thanks for the great writeup, but get some pictures of your rig wth the new stance up laugh . Could you measure how tall it is to highest point on your X, or just to the top of the stock rack if you have anything on top of that. I should be getting an X sometime soonish and I want to make sure it would fit in my garage before I go and do any mods. Also, is there any word as to why the shackles/AAL can't be used in conjunction and will AC be making an extension kit for the ABS wiring as well as the brake lines? Oh, one more thing, what size tires do you have on your X and what do you think is the maximum size that could be stuffed in there with just the 2.5SL?
Thanks,
Max
The reason that it was stated that you can't use the AAL along with the shackles is because of the fact that it will make the rear sit a lot higher. I'm going to order myself a set of AAL's anyhow and then put them on. If I don't like the looks then I'll take one or the other off. The guy that did the install on the test bed said that with the AAL it will raise it up a good bit and by the shackles it will level the truck.

I'm not buying that part at all since when I measured the front and the back there's only 1/2" difference between the two sitting at a stock height so if the 1.5" lift will raise the rear only by 1/2" then the AAL and shackle combo shouldn't raise it up that much more.

For the ABS and brake line kit question. You do not have to modify the ABS wiring in any way. The only thing that you have to do is relocate it. You can probably do the same thing with the brake lines but it will be best to get the brake line kit. It will run you $55 for the kit and it is only the lines.

The size tires that I have on the truck are stock. They are the 265/70R16's. I'll be upgrading them later to a 33 or 34" tire. I'm working on the issue of trying to get a 2" BL lift kit released by AC. So for right now the biggest tire that you can go with either at a stock height or with the 2.5" SL is a 33" tire. The reason for this limitation is due to the rear wheel well only being 34" so if you put a 34" on there it would contact the entire wheel well and need to do a lot of trimming in order to get it to fit.

With a 3" BL you should be able to go up to a 35 or even 36" tire. That's all just guessing right now as the only Xterra that has this combo on right now is the test bed and I'm not sure if the guy that owns that will go to that big of a tire.

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#513086 - 22/01/06 04:38 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Why do I keep seeing references to shocks as if they change the height?

As far as I know, even the '05'+s use coils up front and leaves out back, to control the height, and if I removed the shocks altogether, the height would be unaffected.

(Of course, the ride and handling would be interesting...)

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#513087 - 22/01/06 05:07 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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would be interesting. I thought that was true too...getting confused here

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#513088 - 22/01/06 05:09 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
Why do I keep seeing references to shocks as if they change the height?

As far as I know, even the '05'+s use coils up front and leaves out back, to control the height, and if I removed the shocks altogether, the height would be unaffected.

(Of course, the ride and handling would be interesting...)

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I don't think anyone is saying that it changes the height, what it does do is limit the travel as the rear shocks will run out of travel.

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#513089 - 22/01/06 05:42 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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MassX,

Sent you a reply in your pm questions.

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#513090 - 23/01/06 07:48 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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that is one awesome write-up. I'm a little confused by the pictures of the rear springs though. Isn't that a picture of a 2004-or-below Xterra? The exhaust exits on the side.

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#513091 - 23/01/06 08:25 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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I believe that for the AAL dan uses his pre-05 for the install picts as there is no difference in the procedure to install the AAL b/w 05/06 and pre-05.

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#513092 - 23/01/06 01:45 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Will you are correct. That is a pre-'05 Xterra showing in there and Koko is correct as well. There is no changes what so ever in doing the shackle or AAL install as they have the same exact procedures. Since I didn't get the shackles done yet I wanted to be able to have the complete write up done so that if someone else got their lift kit before I got mine installed they could go straight ahead and have no issues with it.

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#513093 - 23/01/06 01:47 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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For those that were wondering about how much a shop will charge you to get the springs swapped out here's the price that I got. I'll even give the name of the shop for those that are in the local area of me.

I went to Hurdles on 25th Ave at the intersection of Colley Ave and they told me that they will charge me $120 for them to pull off the assemblies, swap out the shocks, and reinstall them. They will also include the alignment as well. So that's pretty damn good for that price. The guy that I spoke to was Jamie and their number at the shop is 757-622-7730. He told me that it will only take 2 to 3 hours to do the entire process. He said that these really need to be done on a machine for safety reasons as they are really heavy duty springs.

Just wanted to list that so that everyone will have a general idea of about what it should cost you to get it done. Good luck to you all. I'm going to try to drop it off in the morning and get it done so the only thing I will have left to do is the shackle install which won't take that long at all. laugh

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#513094 - 23/01/06 02:05 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Just got another update from AC.

For those that ordered the kits some of the orders will be shipping this week. Not sure who is getting theirs shipped out.

For the brake line kits. They should be available by next week. They are in the process of testing them out now. They do have them in stock so that's good to go.

For the front shocks they are currently working with a couple of companies to get them developed. The thing that they meant about the limits of the shocks is the same thing with the rear. They are saying that when you get new longer aftermarket shocks then you'll be getting more travel then the stock ones so you'll be getting the same amount of lift regardless of what model you have. The only thing that will be affected is the travel of the shocks.

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#513095 - 23/01/06 03:35 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Well, Back before I was banned from buying parts from 4X4 parts.com for wanting service.
(I asked for a little servie and thats what I got Damm little!)

I considered this install.
I was going to use OFF ROAD Struts with the AC Spring package... I think you are correct since all the parts from a OR are completely different from a S or SE Model.
The stance of an OFF ROAD is higher, so I guess the gain would be less.

Since AC refuses to sell to me, I guess I will just install the OFF ROAD Shocks/Stuts I ordered from dealer.... Unless I can unload my SHROCKWORKS BUMPER. Then I'll just stay all stock.

I'm concerned with the weight of the bumper in front.

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Originally posted by Dirt Dog:
Dan,
I would like pass on my thanks for the great write up and pictures of the install. I was on the AC site and it said " Amount of front lift will be limited depending on which coil over shock you are using. Different models have different shocks so degree of lift may vary". I have a 06 OR does this mean I will get less lift than say S model? Also am I missing somthing because I would like to see some side pics of your X with the new stance. PLEASE

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#513096 - 23/01/06 07:58 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Total Chaos is soon releasing uniball UCA's for the Fronty/Xterra... these with the AC coils should be a kick@ss combo. [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]

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#513097 - 24/01/06 11:57 AM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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I believe the OR is higher becuase it rides on 1" taller tires. Yes there are bilstein shocks front and rear, but as stated previously that is to give a firmer ride.

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#513098 - 24/01/06 04:37 PM Re: AC's Lift kit how-to 2005+ Xterra Completed.
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Pardon me for asking, but you mean that you don't want to stick a prybar between the coil windings after you have capped the shock/strut and the coil can't fly away? That would be easy actually-if that is indeed what you mean. It would pop about 3/4 of an inch (a coil width), just keep your hand on the tools and not in the coils.

bear in mind I worked on cars for a good number of years professionally.

Anyways, I look forward to photos, post lift ride analysis, and reports back on any alignment or any other side effects.

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