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#591808 - 03/03/08 06:41 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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[b]wtf is your problem with Che? You have no family do you?
What's my problem with Che? [Freak] What the hell planet do you live on?

The question should be rather, why don't YOU have a problem with Che? The fact that you don't indicates some serious issues on your part.

Che Guevara was a Marxist totalitarian tyrant and brutal murderer.[/b]
I live on Earth where there's a long history of armed struggle for simple things like food and shelter. Sometimes it takes a Marxist totalitarian tyrant murderer to go toe to toe with Fascist totalitarian tyrant murderers. Che was a twit but you're the one that keeps invoking the name. You're as lost as the idiots who hang his picture - you confuse symbols with reality.

Obama, McCain, six of one, half-dozen of the other; either way it ain't Hillary and that's just fine with me. I hope she gets her clock cleaned tomorrow.

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#591809 - 04/03/08 07:48 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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I live on Earth where there's a long history of armed struggle for simple things like food and shelter. Sometimes it takes a Marxist totalitarian tyrant murderer to go toe to toe with Fascist totalitarian tyrant murderers.
You're an asshole. A seriously IGNORANT asshole.

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#591810 - 04/03/08 07:50 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Junior Tuesday Election Update....

Clinton leading in Ohio

Clinton within a couple of hundred votes in Texas as of this writing...

The "Messiah" may have a bad day after all.

EDIT:

Wow... Clinton may win this thing. She's over 20,000 votes ahead right now.

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#591811 - 04/03/08 08:18 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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This piece of coagulated maggot puke is now the OFFICIAL Republican Party nominee....



Thanks to the RNC and many state Republican Party operations for giving us all these "open primaries" where non-Republicans decided the Republican nominee.

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#591812 - 04/03/08 08:36 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Originally posted by Samueul:
Everything I've ever read about Che basically points to his abject failure at anything he tried to do. Seems like he had one "lucky" hit at making his "ideology" work in Cuba and that's about it.... If you have a picture of him on your wall, you're an idiot.
And you've become an icon to millions?

I'm going to guess that you haven't read that much about Che, other than what you might read on blogs, or Madman's posts. I'm not a big fan of Communism, but you could hardly call Che a failure. The guy did and saw a lot in his 40 years.

I guess someone like Madman could call Che a failure. Madman is a 43 year old unemployed hate-nerd who writes bile on the internet all day...but yeah, a doctor/writer/leader of a modern revolution...that's a failure.

I've read Che. I've read about Che. I admire the guy's will, and yet I manage to not be a Communist. Wow...so funny how I can feel one way and yet, not toe the whole damn line. You should try it some time. It's liberating.

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#591813 - 04/03/08 08:42 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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I've read Che. I've read about Che. I admire the guy's will, and yet I manage to not be a Communist. Wow...so funny how I can feel one way and yet, not toe the whole damn line. You should try it some time. It's liberating.
What does Che's will have to do with anything?

The most evil and tyrannical men in history had a lot of will.

Che was a tyrant. He was an evil man. He murdered untold people who fought along side of him after he and his cronies betrayed their "revolution".

There is absolutely no redeeming qualities in Che. He had no problem killing anyone who stood in his way or who disagreed with ideas of statist tyrannical government.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely misguided or not exactly a sane person.

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#591814 - 04/03/08 08:50 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Speaking of statist tyrannical government.....

In the Democrat primary in Texas, Hillary is now almost 50,000 votes ahead of the socialist messiah.

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#591815 - 05/03/08 12:14 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Hillary Wins Texas and Ohio

That is GOOD NEWS.

That means the Democratic Party fight for the nomination moves on. Maybe all the way to this summer at the convention. They will have to use their resources fighting each other. Possibly until the end of the summer.

This makes the race more interesting. The radicals hate it, but most people should like it.

Most of the cable TV pundits wrote Hillary Clinton off. Many of the pollsters wrote her off. Many of these people were so wrong all along this election season. The pollsters were among the worst (Remember when they had Obama 20 points ahead of Clinton in New Hampshire).

Most of these people have been wrong so many times this election season it is hard to believe they still have their jobs.

What is Chris Matthews on MSNBC going to do when he doesn't have Obama (The Messiah) to make "his legs feel tingly" anymore.

Obama has been pushed very hard by the media. When you look at the states he has won, Hillary has won all the big states. Today seems no different.

Here is video of Hillary in today's victory....



Next stops are.... Wyoming on Saturday; Mississippi on Tuesday.

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#591816 - 05/03/08 05:09 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Quote:
Originally posted by Shahram:
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Originally posted by Samueul:
[b]Everything I've ever read about Che basically points to his abject failure at anything he tried to do. Seems like he had one "lucky" hit at making his "ideology" work in Cuba and that's about it.... If you have a picture of him on your wall, you're an idiot.
And you've become an icon to millions?

I'm going to guess that you haven't read that much about Che, other than what you might read on blogs, or Madman's posts. I'm not a big fan of Communism, but you could hardly call Che a failure. The guy did and saw a lot in his 40 years.

I guess someone like Madman could call Che a failure. Madman is a 43 year old unemployed hate-nerd who writes bile on the internet all day...but yeah, a doctor/writer/leader of a modern revolution...that's a failure.

I've read Che. I've read about Che. I admire the guy's will, and yet I manage to not be a Communist. Wow...so funny how I can feel one way and yet, not toe the whole damn line. You should try it some time. It's liberating.[/b]
Do you read any of my posts? I argue with Madman all the time and I definitely do not tow any party line.

I've studied che too. The only place where his brand of marxism worked was Cuba, after leaving Cuba to try and instill his ideology elsewhere and instigate "revolution" it all failed. He tried like what 6 different countries and only prevailed in Cuba? 1 out of 5 sounds like failure to me. I stand by my original comment. Che was not to be admired unless you had your head up your ass.
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#591817 - 05/03/08 05:44 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Looks like this one is going to get decided at the convention, which would favor Clinton.

Anyone else getting the feeling that Florida and Michigan are going to come into play again somehow?

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#591818 - 05/03/08 05:55 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Looks like this one is going to get decided at the convention, which would favor Clinton.

Anyone else getting the feeling that Florida and Michigan are going to come into play again somehow?
I think it'll be done before the convention.

I don't think Florida will play a part - they lost their delegates at the convention. Or at least, that's the impression I got. Of course, when it comes down to it, they'll probably get them back.

Oh...unless you meant in the general election.
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#591819 - 05/03/08 06:05 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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I think it's almost impossible to get it done before the convention now. There isn't a way Clinton could clinch before the convention unless Florida or Michigan somehow get involved again and I don't think Obama can clinch without Penn and I don't think he will win there.

Here is an article already talking about Michigan and Florida having a "do over."

Long before Ohio or Texas had any meaningful returns -- and the exit polls suggested that the race was knotted -- Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's top fundraiser, was insisting to reporters, "We're going to have to go through the process until we get to Puerto Rico on June 7." Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland, who had been Hillary's unstinting champion throughout the primary, made a similar plea as he spoke before Clinton at the rally, "Let her continue this fight. Let's go on to Pennsylvania and West Virginia. And let's go to Michigan and Florida."

Strickland's political map was intriguing. Pennsylvania, which holds its primary April 22, is indeed slated to be the last major state to weigh in. But Strickland pointed to the road to salvation for Clinton when he invoked "Michigan and Florida." These two states held outlaw primaries in January (which Clinton carried), but these contests have not been recognized by the Democratic National Committee because they violated party rules on scheduling. The magic number of delegates needed to secure the nomination (2,025) has been calculated without counting the 366 defrocked delegates from Michigan and Florida.

The Clinton campaign has stubbornly, ineffectively and a bit duplicitously argued that the Michigan and Florida results should count, even though Obama was not even on the Michigan ballot and all Democratic candidates pledged not to campaign in these states. As Clinton spokesman Doug Hattaway reiterated Tuesday night, "Sen. Clinton has consistently favored seating those delegates." But Strickland's remarks to the rally -- and some hints from McAuliffe earlier in the evening -- suggest that the next Clinton position may be to appeal to the party to encourage these two pariah states to hold some type of do-over caucus or primary.

The Florida and Michigan question is central to Clinton's lingering wishing-and-hoping dreams of snaring the nomination. If the 366 delegates from these two states were somehow again in play, the daunting arithmetic that makes it almost impossible for Clinton to pass Obama in pledged delegates would be far more forgiving. Even after her double-barreled Ohio and Texas primary victories, Clinton still faces the risk of a stampede of unpledged superdelegates to Obama. That is why her campaign, which has taxed the limits of logic and consistency as it has flailed about in recent weeks must win the "spin wars" of the next few days and convince the more than 300 still neutral superdelegates to stay on the sidelines.

The Ohio exit polls, for the most part, reflected the divisions that have characterized the Clinton-Obama race so far. The age breaks were lock-step precise with Clinton rising and Obama falling as each of the six age cohorts became progressively older. Obama won the youngest voters (those 17-24) by a landslide margin of 75-to-24 percent. Clinton, on the other hand, racked up an almost equally lopsided 70-to-29 victory among voters eligible for Social Security. In summary, the 46-year-old Obama carried voters younger than he is (those 17 to 45), while Clinton won those who are older.

Whatever her intentions had she lost Ohio or Texas, it is now clear that Clinton will not go quietly into the night. Strickland, who encouraged Clinton to campaign heavily in rural Ohio (she won these voters by a 70-to-26 percent margin), made his feelings abundantly clear in a phone interview Monday. Speaking on the assumption that Clinton would win Ohio, the first-term governor lambasted Obama supporters like John Kerry and Ted Kennedy for suggesting that Clinton should withdraw if she did not come out of the Tuesday primaries with a delegate lead. "John Kerry's not in a position to make a political judgment about Ohio or any other state," Strickland said with an edge of anger in his voice. Talking about Kennedy, whom he did call a "great senator," Strickland recalled that in 1980 the Massachusetts liberal carried his battle against incumbent Democratic President Jimmy Carter to the floor of the convention -- and then only reluctantly endorsed his rival at the last minute. As Strickland put it, "Now for him to start lecturing Hillary Clinton about party unity and what it takes to win in November ... offends me."

When more than 20 states clustered their primaries and caucuses on Woozy Tuesday Feb. 5, there was concern that the Democratic race would end too soon, leaving the nominee with nearly seven months to contemplate a running mate before the Denver Convention. Now with Hillary Clinton's dramatic return from oblivion, it is likely that the presidential candidates will, at minimum , spend the next seven weeks making Pennsylvania Democrats feel like the most important voters on the planet. About the only slogan that makes sense in the wee hours of Wednesday morning is: "It ain't over 'til it's over."

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#591820 - 05/03/08 07:16 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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I feel dirty for saying this, but good for Hillary. As much as I despise the woman, I'd 10X rather see her in the white house than Obama.

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#591821 - 05/03/08 08:25 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Here you go Madman. Guess we should have seen this coming.

Hillary hinting at Obama as a running mate

Don't like one or the other? How about BOTH of them!

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#591822 - 05/03/08 09:41 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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I think I heard Ron Paul is willing to let McCain be his running mate as well. smile

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#591823 - 05/03/08 10:04 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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I feel dirty for saying this, but good for Hillary. As much as I despise the woman, I'd 10X rather see her in the white house than Obama.
Really? Why?

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#591824 - 05/03/08 11:54 AM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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I just heard on NPR a bit ago that when the smoke clears from yesterday Clinton will have gotten 190 delegates to Obama's 180. Not exactly a blowout win from a delegate standpoint.

One of the guests also made the comment that when it comes right down to it the superdelegates are going to have a very hard time going against the votes in the states. In other words, if Obama still has the lead in regular delegates going into the convention this guest thought most of the superdelegates would change over to him.

In any event, it looks like the democrats won't have their candidate for awhile longer.

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#591825 - 05/03/08 12:27 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Quote:
Originally posted by Shahram:
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Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
[b]I feel dirty for saying this, but good for Hillary. As much as I despise the woman, I'd 10X rather see her in the white house than Obama.
Really? Why?[/b]
Of no interest to you, I'm sure.

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#591826 - 05/03/08 12:48 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
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Originally posted by Shahram:
[b]
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Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
[b]I feel dirty for saying this, but good for Hillary. As much as I despise the woman, I'd 10X rather see her in the white house than Obama.
Really? Why?[/b]
Of no interest to you, I'm sure.[/b]
Then why bother mentioning it, numbnuts? If it was private information, you coulda just kept it to yourself. But you didn't, so obviously you're just bursting at the seams to tell us exactly why you love Hilary and hate Obama.

Or would you like me to infer your reason? I could do that. Hell, my version of how you feel would probably be more fun to write than your logical reasons are to read.

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Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
Ugh. I can't stand that uppity Obama. I mean, say what you want about Hillary, but at least she's white! Now don't get me wrong, I'm no bigot. I don't mind if the blacks do their thing, hell, there's a black who washes my car, and he seems a nice fella, but you don't want them running the country, do ya? I mean, do you really want some jazzy negro all hopped up on reefer, with his two-toned finger on the button? You know how hot-headed they can get! Sure, his type might act white, but believe you me, say one word and they go all native on ya!
How's that for inference?

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#591827 - 05/03/08 01:08 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Take my response as this: I would have replied to anyone else who asked the question seriously.

I'm just not in the mood to feed the troll today. Your subsequent post solidifies your trollness.

I honestly can't think of anyone else whom I'd rather shit in the driver seat of their vehicle besides you. Believe me, I tried. My shit smells really bad too.

With regard to your attempt to paint me a racist, I have no issue with a black or hispanic in office as long as their politics fit my views. The only people I really can't stand are Arabs and Persians. What a collective bunch of douchebags.

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#591828 - 05/03/08 01:55 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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#591829 - 05/03/08 02:01 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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You're an asshole Shahram.

Now your accusing people who don't like Obama of being racist. For a guy who tries to paint himself as a Libertarian, you constantly use the most left wing of left wing tactics in your arguments.

Stick to painting yourself as a victim of police harassment because of the color of your skin.

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#591830 - 05/03/08 02:04 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Might want to look in the driver seat of that TLC before you sit.

I feel a cable coming on.

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#591831 - 05/03/08 02:15 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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Here you go Madman. Guess we should have seen this coming.

Hillary hinting at Obama as a running mate

Don't like one or the other? How about BOTH of them!
If that happens at all, it won't happen until the convention.

Last night was a good night for the GOP. Hillary stayed in the race and that means the Democrats are going to have to use up their time and resources fighting each other for at least another two months or until the summer at the convention. That is good news for the GOP.

Some are also saying that a large block of voters in Ohio and Texas were Republicans who crossed over and voted for Hillary to keep this race going.

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#591832 - 05/03/08 02:16 PM Re: Man enough to admit I've got ED..
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You're going to need a bigger popper...

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