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#592828 - 27/06/03 03:23 AM Beta Testers...
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My latest bit of work... (my first MySQL/PHP site)

http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ft/

The database isn't fully poulated yet, so many products won't have descriptions. The Catalog page doesn't submit either.

Please give it a work out so I can see if it breaks. Feedback is appreciated.
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#592829 - 27/06/03 03:30 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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looks good at first glance - clean, easy to navigate, when populated it should be a nice site for them....
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#592830 - 27/06/03 03:47 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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hehe I like the FAQ section
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#592831 - 27/06/03 04:40 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Does "Full-Traction Suspension offer more than one product? If so the following statement should read:

"Full-Traction Suspension manufactures products that offer innovative and unique designs"
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#592832 - 27/06/03 05:26 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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You should have bread crumbs on the page to go back to the pages you just left. Just like you have here on XOC. That way you know where you are in the website.
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#592833 - 27/06/03 05:33 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Clean and efficient site. Looks good.

You may change the intro, but just in case -- a heads up -- there's an extra space between "SUV" and the comma on page one.

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#592834 - 27/06/03 05:35 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Very slick setup Ian. Easy to navigate. Dont Listen to Sean. wink :p
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#592835 - 27/06/03 05:47 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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I like the look and it seems to flow smooth. other than the tips already posted no suggestions.
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#592836 - 27/06/03 05:54 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Nice. Clean. Like XOC. Sometimes more can be said by saying much less..

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#592837 - 27/06/03 06:38 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Looks nice. Did you hand code the PHP, or use a tool like Dreamweaver? If you handcoded it, one thing to make sure of is that you're doing input validation. If you have one unescaped apostrophe, it'll kill your MySQL query, or pottntionally be a major security hole. If you have gpc_magic_quotes set to on, you don't have to worry about it. All GET/POST/COOKIE data (all that can submitted by the client) is automagically padded. If you are not using that feature (I turn it off in PHP because it creates a lot of headaches), you can use the addslashes() function to safegaurd your input data. Be sure to clean ANY variables that are used from the client, even if they come from radio or checkbox input types or select's, not just from text input types. A malicious user could easily input bogus data into those variables. If you already know all this and I'm treating you like an idiot, just say [Finger] .

Its probably overkill for this project, but an amazing E-commerce package I've used for some sites is osCommerce . Its open-source and free to use and very feature-rich and stable. Runs in the PHP/MySQL environment.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think of PHP so far? I used to program in Perl, C, C++, and shell scripting, depending on what suited the project. Several years ago I decided to try out PHP and now I'll never go back. Nothing can match the power, speed and ease-of-use of PHP.

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#592838 - 27/06/03 06:40 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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On another note... Is Calmini really branching out into the full-size truck division? I don't care about the other makes, but I'd love to have some Calmini Blue on my Ram 2500. Are the products real, proposed, or fictional?

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#592839 - 27/06/03 07:36 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Calmini has been doing their Full Traction division for a good while now. Looks like they've come to Ian to overhaul their site:
http://www.full-traction.com/

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#592840 - 27/06/03 07:43 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Looks good, Ian. Seems solid too, but I don't have much experience with PHP. One suggestion I have - maybe it's just me but I would be concerned that some moron would confuse the two menus in the top right as having some sort of relationship with one another. (i.e. "search chevy", "contact dodge", etc.). I'm not really sure what would make a better layout, so feel free to disregard my stupid comments too.

Otherwise, it looks really good. Way better than any site I've ever attempted.
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#592841 - 27/06/03 09:06 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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good one, and seems to have nice cross-browser compatibility (looked at it with Konqi, Mozilla)

only bit to concern about - tables jumping a bit on products. Other than that - good coloring, placement and overall look. (couldnt say anything about load, as i dont want to bring server down 8))
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#592842 - 27/06/03 09:12 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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Very clean... only comment is the redundancy in having the navigation at the top right and then another one at the bottom right, if the page where really "tall" it would make sense, but since its neatly compact its kinda useless.
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#592843 - 27/06/03 09:50 AM Re: Beta Testers...
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ECHO "Looks good, im also working on a project right now usiong MYSQL and PHP. They two systems work great together dont they. Ive go the MySql PHP developers guide in a .pdf if you want it. Also if you have any coding questions.";

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#592844 - 27/06/03 12:42 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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Very clean... only comment is the redundancy in having the navigation at the top right and then another one at the bottom right, if the page where really "tall" it would make sense, but since its neatly compact its kinda useless.
I need text navigation for people with images disabled, etc. Maybe it could be smaller.
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#592845 - 27/06/03 01:03 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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You must get a lot of parser errors. smile

<?

echo "Looks good, im also working on a project right now usiong MYSQL and PHP. They two systems work great together dont they. Ive go the MySql PHP developers guide in a .pdf if you want it. Also if you have any coding questions.";

?>

Also a you can use:
Code:
<script language='php'></script>
instead of the It looks much cleaner.

Yeah, I'm a nerd, and damn all you mySQL users. PostgreSQL is the way to go. ANSI compatable but annoying as hell to pronounce.
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#592846 - 27/06/03 01:09 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
Quote:
Originally posted by fastdrmr:
[b]Very clean... only comment is the redundancy in having the navigation at the top right and then another one at the bottom right, if the page where really "tall" it would make sense, but since its neatly compact its kinda useless.
I need text navigation for people with images disabled, etc. Maybe it could be smaller.[/b]
I was going to say to make that lower nav text smaller...

In addition, I would have some sort of 'loop-back' objects to get to the various vehicles within each category. This might elminate using the back button and an extra click to get from Jeep Rubicon to Chevy Tahoe (for example) Perhaps a mouse over drop down would work?

The intro page text needs a little work but I am sure that's going to change as the site matures.

Overall the site looks and navigates fantastic.
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#592847 - 27/06/03 01:28 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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Looks really nice Ian...

I'm sure it's just me but the right having the right side so close to the window.. I kept feeling like I was missing something over to the right.. can you add maybe 1/4" margin over there? just the text and lines.. the images could bleed off.

Or.. just ignore this comment.. just my .02
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#592848 - 27/06/03 01:35 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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Seems to work well indeed.

MyTonka's comment was the one I was going to make as well. I like the images bleeding off the right-hand side of the "page" or window, but the textual elements seems a bit crowded against that edge.

Good work though. Navigates well and is a very clean layout.

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#592849 - 27/06/03 01:58 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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Thanks for the suggestions. I've added some white space to the right side of the main body copy, reduce the links at the bottom and fixed a few typos.

Still some fine tuning to do.
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#592850 - 27/06/03 02:00 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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Needs Nissan products . . . laugh

Otherwise, nice . . .
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#592851 - 27/06/03 02:16 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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I like it less with the text padding at the right, perhaps its too much?

If you want to keep it that way, please extend the top orange horizontal rule to the edge to match the bottom.
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#592852 - 27/06/03 02:30 PM Re: Beta Testers...
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Needs Nissan products . . . laugh
That's next months project.

Sample here...
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