"Environmentally Friendly," ya say? Why not strip them naked and bury them alive? At least for the ones where there's no doubt... like they raped a minor on video or something.

I'd bring a shovel!

Hmmm. Uh, yeah, that'd work great:

Q: So, what do you do for a living?
A: I'm a death-row executioner.
Q: Whoa, really? So, do you flip the electric chair on or give the lethal injection?
A: Uh, no. I'm the guy they call in to rape and torture convicts until they're dead. It's a gruesome job, but someone's got to do it. Next month, that guy Mike Rowe from the Discovery Channel's Dirty Jobs is coming to film a segment.

:rolleyes:

Why not just put them in a room, and fill it with CO? They'd just fall asleep and die, right? Why don't we use the "gas chamber" anymore?

Ah, ok.

But there is definitely something wrong with the system - look how long it takes for them to schedule a trial. This isn't necessarily the fault of the accused.

That'd work in Texas.

We've got fire ants . . .

Oh come on...you dont think there'd be takers for that job?

Never thought about the "Dirty Jobs" reference. That'd be downright hilarious.

Ok, so maybe we won't have an anal rapist on the payroll, but you get the idea. I think lethal injection or the gas chamber is too humane for some of these animals.

Ok, figure bullets cost $1 each. Just for the sake of argument. Firing squad is usually 5 shooters, one has blanks. That's for the psychological impact, each shooter can say I had the blank, I didn't kill him/her. Here in NH it costs $38k a year to house a minimum security inmate. Maximum security is in the vicinity of $60k. That's more than alot of people make in a year. Hmmm, spend $1 and get it over with, or spend a few hundred thousand dollars to house, feed, and guard them. Or better yet, turn them all loose in the yard and let them fight to the end.

ever shoot a blank? You know it's a blank....doesn't have the same recoil as a live round.

Just saying.

Carry on.

I always thought with a firing squad it was the opposite - there was only 1 live bullet.

I'm curious where you found that data. From THIS source , the average cost in New Hamphire for ALL prisoners is only $28,000. What group is bringing it down, if not the minimum security population?

Counties are also included in that data. They pack them in like sardines, thus its alot cheaper. Plus, county here is for less than a year, they don't have squat for the rehab programs either. I know a couple of guards at Merrimack county plus a few at the State Prison, state pays better but its higher risk.

Nope.

http://deathpenaltyinfo.msu.edu/c/about/methods/firingsquad.htm

Hate to have the one dude with the bullet get nervous and wing the dude, and have him bleeding while they reload.

There have been cases with inmates on death row who had to fight to actually receive the punishment. Some of these sickos actually have the balls to say they did it and want to die. But even they have to wait years and years for the penalty to be carried out.

Think about this tho - As a parent of someones child who has been murdered, would you want the murderer to receive a swift punishment? I personally would like the fucker to rot and suffer rather than getting an easy way out quickly.

Emotions get the best of people.

I would think them sitting in a cell for the rest of their life would be a much harsher punishment than a quick death penalty.

If they are convicted of *murder,* then don't give them any chance of parole. Why do we bother with giving Manson a parole hearing every year or two?

""conviction when no one actually witnessed it.""

"witnesses" are the problem. Often they don't get the look they think they do. Or they are in hot water themselves and "help" the investigators naming someone for a crime.

I like to see the evidence other than witness tesitmony everytime.

Something that makes me cringe is when they interview jurors after a conviciton in a high profile case. I hear things like " he didn't have a good demeanor in the courtroom" He didn't seem to have remorse"

That scares me.

And as for the lists provided showing multiple cases of exoneration, many of those listed aren't really exonerations to the point the person was innocent. Just that there was a techinal reason or otherwise to allow the conviction to be overturned.

I saw James Robison on the second list posted. Very much involved in the death of Don Bolles, along with Adamson and Kemper Marley.

I didn't see (glanced at the list) Ray Krone however.

Convicted of murdering a bartender after hours one night. Convicted using bite marks. Exonerated later when better evidence showed the bite marks could not be his, and I believe DNA also helped clear him.

At any rate, certainly there are some people on death row who did not do the crime that landed them on death row and that really scares me.

But if there is overwhelming evidence of guilt and the penalty applies, it should be much swifter than is usually is.....

Lordy. How about the "idiot factor" for the jury? Remember O.J.'s jury? "We din see what no blood type had to do wif it!" wow. Could work just the opposite way too, my Mom was the foreman on a jury for a murder trial. She said one of the jurors spoke of the defendant (a "well to do" Dentist) and said, "He was too handsome to have her as a wife, I'm sure he killed her because he knew he could do better." Uh.. can we consider the actual EVIDENCE here?

I know what getting fucked by a jury feels like after my wifes injury case after being rear ended. Jury didn't even award medical bills.

Back to the topic at hand

Interesting graphic showing which states do what.

I found that website very interesting. Does that mean I'm fucked up or something?

It wasn't *just* overturned in his case, though. In the second trial, he was acquitted.

From the details I can find, he *might* have been involved...Adamson sounds too fishy to believe 100%. He would only testify if they reinstated his plea bargain. Can we say questionable witness?

just out of curiousity, how can a state justify not having a death penalty? so basically go to one of them, kill someone and you spend the rest or four life behind bars.......free food and living?

If you call living in a cell with TV living...so be it.

How can a state justify HAVING a death penalty?

The death penalty serves only one purpose - revenge. It does NOT act as a deterrent. If it did, why does the population on death row continue to grow?

From 688 in 1980 to 3314 in 2004.
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It grows because of the swelling appeals process and the lack of follow through on sentences.