In my experience small dogs are much more likely to bite then big dogs, but I'd rather be bitten or attacked 10 times by a cocker spaniel then once by a pit bull or other strong/bigger breed.

Who's more dangerous to you Pee Wee Herman or John Cena? If Michael Jackson or Mike Tyson snap who do you want to fight?

I'm not against Pit Bulls at all or for banning them, but to say they aren't dangerous is stupid. All big breeds are dangerous because of the damage they can inflict. My Great Pyr is known as a gentle giant but I know he is dangerous just because of his size.

You guys are missing all of this. You have no idea how innocent a Pit Bull is compared to the dogs I had growing up.

When you looked at the 2 dogs I had when I was kid growing up, you would be feared. For you had never seen such a gruesome face in your entire life. I would almost guarantee you that if you saw them, you would run.

Pit Bulls got jack on my two basset hounds - Annie and Johnnie (no joke - Annie after the movie and Johnny because he was the fifth of the litter...you know Johnny 5?!).

You ever seen the EARS on them suckers? Oh...my...gosh..they could suffocate you from putting one of those gigandor ears over your mouth while you and you would never know..all you would get is the taste of wax...and by then it would be too late.

RIP Annie and Johnnie.

Um....huh?

Uh.....no.

Hey - Sharam's back!

When I said that 99% of people who claim they are leaving internet forums always return, usually in grand Han Solo-showing-up-and-shooting-the-tie-fighters-off-Luke's-six-while-he-blows-up-the-Deathstar like fashion, I never imagined it would be me he'd be swooping in to help.

As for what I advocate municipalities doing from here? How about licensing guidelines for people that want to own any dog breed that was originally bred for fighting. Make it a strict two strike and out policy. Anyone with a criminal record is not allowed period. Anyone that does get licensed and buys a pit bull will either have to move out of town or get their dog taken away if it is reported loose more than once. If your licensed pit bull attacks someone or another pet, same deal - license revoked for any further vicious breed ownership and you either move or find a new home for the dog. Depending on the individual incident, I'd be willing to give this last one two strikes before the owner had to give up their dog.

Lets not forget about the negative property value implications owning a vicious breed introduces. Hell, my town tickets if you keep your Christmas lights up too long. These laws are designed solely to keep property values up. There is a positive fiscal incentive to introduce regulations to owning vicious breeds. After all, what "typical American family" with 2.2 kids wants to move right next door to a house with pit bulls running around?!?

Would these regulations be too strict? I don't think so. My idea would still leave plenty of "outs" for all of you that have truely harmless pits and are responsible owners.

That seems sort of dumb. I'd rather not be attacked at all. To each his own I guess. Ill get that circus of angry Cockers together. grab my buddies and some beer and sit back and watch an army of angry spaniels devour your ankles. itll be a blasty blast!!

Evidently you struggle with reading comprehension. I said bitten 10 times by a Cocker Spaniel, not bitten by 10 Cockers. The choice was being bitten 10 times by a cocker or once by a big breed...your choice.

I realize you were trying to be funny, but I think you swung and missed.

Well my cock is bigger than your cock which means I can f**k more chicks, so that makes me cooler than you.

Yeah, but my F-150 is waaaay taller than yours, and my tribal skull paint job is waaaaay tougher.

I've seen many news stories crying 'Pit Bull' regardless of the breed. Remember, they are the assault weapon of the dog world. :rolleyes:

I think (hope?) Rinky was being funny.

Most people have no idea what a Pit Bull even looks like. Do you?

Well Calmini stuff is better than SLR and I know because I have a Calmini sticker on my truck. (kidding of course)

Nice link, pluvo.

COOL IN DENIAL

Well Tim, in all honesty it took me 3 or 4 tries to get it right & I like to think I know a thing or two about dogs.

Damn I am good I picked it right on the first try.

Of course RiNkY was (trying) to be funny. You know I am a responsible Glock owner and don't go around shooting peoples dogs for fun.

I guess Pit Bull on the 2nd guess. First one I went with #7 because of the ears, which was:

hmmm...As I stand here in an utter daze and amazement I do realize that I might have a problem with reading comprehension. Thanks for pointing that out guy! But I dont think that I am alone. To clarify things a bit, I will explain what I meant. "cockers" would be an abbreviated term for Cocker Spaniel. I know that is rather tough for you to comprehend. And no I wasnt really trying to be funny. I would love to see you get mauled by 10 "COCKER SPANIELS" That would sure make my day smart ass. LOL

hmmm...As I stand here in an utter daze and amazement I do realize that I might have a problem with reading comprehension. Thanks for pointing that out guy! But I dont think that I am alone. To clarify things a bit, I will explain what I meant. "cockers" would be an abbreviated term for Cocker Spaniel. I know that is rather tough for you to comprehend. And no I wasnt really trying to be funny. I would love to see you get mauled by 10 "COCKER SPANIELS" That would sure make my day smart ass. LOL[/QB][/QUOTE]

Jesus Christ you still don't get it. I'm aware a Cocker is short for a Cocker Spaniel. My point was I said I would rather be bitten 10 seperate times by 1 Cocker Spaniel, not bitten by a pack of Cocker Spaniels. My original point was that in my view smaller dogs are likely to bite more often but do less damage, hence the "I'd rather be bitten 10 times instead of once by a big breed." I'd don't think I'm too worried about your roaming pack of wild Cockers.

Buy a fucking clue next time....dumb ass.

Sorry, but I can't help but laugh at the thought of a pack of evil little yappy dogs on the prowl.

Rinky - you need to get Bean a spiked collar so everyone can see him for the little terror he is.

There seems to be plenty of news stories regarding pit bulls. Almost all of them bad.

A quick Google News search yields these results....

Link...

Even 20 pages into the search results and almost all of the stories are still relatively recent.

Most of the time, as far as the media is concerned, there are only 3 breeds of dog:

Pit Bull - scourge of society, eat children, should be banned and/or shot on sight.

Police dog - not German Shepard or Rottweiler, but apparently a breed unto itself & just like their human counterparts they can do no wrong.

Generic 'mixed breed' dog - used when they can't get away with calling it a Pit Bull, these are even more evil because they would slip past breed bans.

CBS had a 'fair & balanced' take on dog bites today.

In other (older) news:

According to a 27-year study of dogs in the New York City area made by Dr. Robert Oleson, of the U.S. Public Health Service, these are the 9 dogs most apt to take a nibble out of a human being. They are, in the order of their aggressiveness:

1. German shepherd

2. Chow chow

3. Poodle

4. Italian bulldog

5. Fox terrier

6. Mixed chow chow

7. Airedale

8. Pekingese

9. Mixed German shepherd

Funny, they seem to have missed the evil dogs. :rolleyes:

I did notice that German Sheperd (the de facto police dog) made the list twice. I wonder if this data includes law enforcement use of force like the firearm death stats do. Too bad I can't find the original study online to verify that.

Check out #s 3 & 8. Forget the sharks with frikin' laser beams on their heads, Dr. Evil is just one pack of feral Pekingese away from world domination.

Pluvo - that stat has absolutely no bearing on our discussion.

As was stated earlier, the danger isn't in the likelyhood of a dog to bite - it's in the destruction a dog can do while biting.

And simply looking at one town is flawed as well, since NYC is an urban area - of course smaller dogs will be higher on the list since that is the preference of those living in urban areas.

C'mon man. We've covered this already.

Didn't you leave out "working dogs" like seeing eye dogs for the blind?

I don't think I've ever seen a pit bull type dog used as seeing eye dogs or too many other categories of working dogs. Am I wrong?

I also think that animal control services in most cities know the difference between a pit bull type dog and other breeds of dogs. Animal control is usually involved in these incidents prior to their being reported in the media.

Quote:

According to a 27-year study of dogs in the New York City area made by Dr. Robert Oleson, of the U.S. Public Health Service, these are the 9 dogs most apt to take a nibble out of a human being. They are, in the order of their aggressiveness:

New York City is very close to banning pit bull ownership. There is a bill currently in the New York City Council that would ban ownership of these types of dogs.

I'm not saying I agree with it. The NYC Council is loaded with an assortment of kooks that want to ban all sorts of things.

I think there may have been restrictions on pit bull ownership enacted in the Bronx and Queens counties within the last year or so.

These dogs are favorites of drug dealers and all other types of vermin here in New York.

I think you may have missed the CDC report that claims pit bull type dogs are responsible for a third of all human deaths caused by dog attacks.

So by your "of course" statment, you are saying a German Shepard and a Chow are "small" dogs? Considering they're #1 and 2 on the list?

Not to mention, a Pit Bull Terrior, is just that; a Terrior, and is actually a relatively small dog, so once again, by your own "of course" line of thinking, the Pit OUGHT to be higher on the list, but alas, is not.

It appears the results do not justify your conclusions. And THAT is relevant to the discussion.

Disclaimer:

I just had one of my dogs killed last Thursday morning, May 3rd, by a Pit. I do not blame the dog. I blame the owners (my inlaws) who thought it would be a good idea to put our pugs in an enclosed dog run with a dog that doesn't get along well with others, and then leave the house for an hour. So don't even try to get on your high horse with me about how it's all the dog's fault.

In almost EVERY situation, it's the OWNER'S fault for doing something stupid that allows a dog (any dog, for that matter) to be in a situation where they may bite another. Whether that's allowing a dog to roam freely, leaving a dog to be an "outside" dog with no interactions, essentially creating a wild animal, or in Vick-like cases where there's actual dog fighting training camp, it STILL falls back on the dumbass owner's shoulders.

In my case, the other dog could have been anything higher on the food chain than my pug, and the result would have been the same.

What kind of news stories were you expecting? Pit bulls lick more people in the month of May than April? News stories only cover problems in society. Type in anything and you will get "negative" stories. Gun, weapon, even cop (just for you MM) brought up articles not generally supporting any of those topics.

Type in the names of other breeds of dogs into the Google News search and you will find the answer for yourself.

Sorry for your loss Porsche.