Carlton - good to see I'm not the only Farker on here.

Let me ask, Who determines "responsible", when the Citizen obtains legally the Firearm in the first place? You can't legislate against a criminal, because they, by definition, will not follow the law.

Militia was a term that was common when the people wrote the Constitution/DOI. If you've read any of the Federalist papers, their style of writing and the words they use differ greatly from what we would say these days. Just read some Laws and see how different we now write.

If todays lawyers wrote the Constitution it would fill the Library of Congress.

My celebratory shots. Not too exciting, but there's an AK-47 involved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fwmG2tQPUs

And no, I'm not the orange pumpkin guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Nbfyfa38I

And here's a gratuitous jam of "Ruby Ridge" from the Idaho incident before Waco in Texas. My wife's the fiddler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKSjnZtKTmY

"In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."

Disgusting liberal elitism right here. He may as well have said, N*****s, are to stupid to defend themselves. Horrible logic for someone who sits in such a position as he does.

I'm surprised you found much in the way of pro-gun arguments from the Uber-liberal socialist trash that makes up 75% of farkers. That's why I go over there - to stir those assholes up.

That said, I'd love to ask this SCOTUS justice why gun control laws haven't significantly reduced crime? Those comments were stupid at best.

Oddly enough, there are a huge number of pro-firearm Farkers out there. We've been pwning the gun grabbers for quite some time now and today's thread (over 1,455 posts) is a nice bit of vindication. What's really odd is that most of the grabbers aren't showing up. Hiding and all.

They will now rely on the UN and Obama to subjugate our rights to defend ourselves.

I don't know much about Fark, but I checked a couple of radical left wing web sites like DailyKos and Democratic Underground.

It does seem like a lot of the more vocal totalitarian gun grabbers are a bit silent. At least for now.

A decent number of the comments do support the decision and the right of law abiding citizens to own firearms.

There is a certain tone with some of them. We'll call it the WilMac syndrome. Here are a few examples.......

Here is a funny exchange between two liberals.

The first one wrote this brief statement....

The next person responded to him with this....

The idiot troll-factor is high today. Really high.

And another from the same idiot.

This is a different failer, but equally dumb. It's odd, but he completely ignored the arguments about the elderly, handicapped, small women, etc.

It's been a fun day...

Yeah - but with one more conservative on the court you'll lose a whole slew of different rights... damned if you do and damned if you don't I guess.

Anyway, here are a couple of my toys:

Easy. You'll just need a Firearm Transportation Permit, available by mailing in your non-refundable $1,000 application fee along with hundreds of pages of notarized documentation, all of which must be completed correctly down to the last detail, oryour application will be rejected. Once the application has been correctly completed, the Board of Firearm Transportation will review your application and either approve or reject your application, at its own discretion. There is no time constraint on the application process, no system of appeals in case of rejection, and any attempt to contact the Board of Firearm Transportation will result in immediate rejection of your application and addition of your name to a List of Firearm Holders Not In Good Standing.

Sorry kids, this is good news, but in the end it doesn't mean shit if local and state agencies don't have to adhere to Constitutional Law.

Exactly what "slew" of rights do conservatives want to take away from you?

It hasn't been any conservative SCOTUS justices that have sought to take any liberties away from you. It has been the left wing justices.

Everything from property rights to freedom of speech and more is no longer an enumerated right in their minds.

The leftists on the court clearly stated today that they do not think you have a right to own those guns in your photo.

I'm a CCW holder and carry my Glock 23 when I feel it might come in handy.

Since sold the lame Glock Laser that came with it when I purchased it from my Brother in law.

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And my non-concealed carry for camping and the like .357 Ruger GP100:

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That's part of the the SCOTUS struck down. They said that blanket bans and the like don't work, etc., so the DC thing is out.

If DC tries something like that, they're going to get bitch-slapped the whole way up to the SCOTUS again and will lose, again.

Mi amigo fresh out the camera

Sweet! Guess I dont have to start a militia now

I'm more of a small caliber revolver man, myself. I leave the big bore stuff to the overcompensatin' types.

New Jersey already claimed their ruling won't change anything.

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080626/NEWS/80626035&GID=B+/jziOkmDMI3PCGY+wI/LPLY5ETspT9dkNrvaZBRQw%3D

Because of four cities (Trenton, Camden, Newark, and Patterson) the rest of the state (mostly farmland) has to suffer. What do those four cities have in common? You figure it out....

This state is doomed because of liberals.

S.

You're exactly right.

The Supreme Court intentionally steered clear of incorporating the individual right to bear arms onto and through the states.

What exactly are the laws in Los Angeles regarding firearms for average citizens? I assume it would be difficult for a carry permit (Maybe unless you are a celebrity or politician. That's the way it is here for the most part.)

What is the degree of difficulty and what is allowed?

I carry a kel-tec p3at (.380) everywhere, own a ruger p95 (9mm) for home and a beretta neos .22 for fun/target. Used to own a rossi .357, ruger sp101 .357, Ruger MKII .22, Glock 23, a couple rifles (.270 30-06) and a couple shotguns..... and a bow...

The City of Los Angeles varies little from the rest of the state in terms of its views on the transportation of firearms.

Difficult ain't a severe enough word for how hard it is to get a concealed carry permit. Unless you're rich and famous or a member of law enforcement or high-profile member of government, you don't get one.

Unfortunately they are correct Stone.

Nothing changes in states and municipalities across the country because of this ruling. That is despite all the bullshit that is coming across in many media outlets today.

Changes that would directly affect state and local governments would require a new challenge and a new ruling stating that effect.

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This state is doomed because of liberals.

New Jersey is still a nice place to visit. .... As long as you don't have to pay the taxes to live there.