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#666280 - 06/12/05 07:04 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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[b]So to come in here and say that ND schedule was so much tougher are full of shit. When you look at ND opponents records at the end of the season, your arguement carries no merrit. Look at the "three big wins" that ND had and where their opponents finished, Pittsburg (5-6), Michigan (7-4), Pudue (5-6). At least every ranked oppentent that Oregon beat finished with a winning record. Fresno State (8-4), Arizona State (6-5) and California (7-4).
The computer would say differently.

Schedule strength...

ND - #19 (76.39)
Oregon - #34 (74.30)[/b]
Not sure where you got yours from, but SOS depends on who you ask, but most put Oregon's schedule as tougher (somewhat) - these are the first two hits I got on google:

http://teamrankings.com/ncf/27powerratings.php3

Oregon - 49
ND - 53

http://hurricane.lsu.edu/_gbe/comppoll/

Oregon - 57
ND - 72

Point is, neither were great, but most rankings and anybody who watches a lot of CFB that looks at both schedules would conclude that Oregon played the tougher schedule. ND arguably has a better "best" win, but they also have that pesky loss AT HOME to 5-6 MSU.

Bottom Line: Most would agree that Oregon played a tougher schedule (or at worst it's comparable), but Oregon only lost 1 game versus 2, and that loss was to USC - not at home versus a 5-6 MSU.

The BCS computers, which don't buy into ND's "tradition," have Oregon at 5 and ND at 10.

ND isn't a bad team, but once again they are overrated, which OSU will illustrate for the world to see. It will be nothing new - ND hasn't won a bowl in over a decade. If that isn't a sign of being consistantly overrated, I don't know what is.

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#666281 - 06/12/05 07:46 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Anyone excited for the Orange Bowl???

GO FSU!!!!!

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#666282 - 07/12/05 01:06 AM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Anyone excited for the Orange Bowl???

GO FSU!!!!!
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#666283 - 07/12/05 05:54 AM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Originally posted by Mobycat:
[b]
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Originally posted by Fletcher Beck:
[b]So to come in here and say that ND schedule was so much tougher are full of shit. When you look at ND opponents records at the end of the season, your arguement carries no merrit. Look at the "three big wins" that ND had and where their opponents finished, Pittsburg (5-6), Michigan (7-4), Pudue (5-6). At least every ranked oppentent that Oregon beat finished with a winning record. Fresno State (8-4), Arizona State (6-5) and California (7-4).
The computer would say differently.

Schedule strength...

ND - #19 (76.39)
Oregon - #34 (74.30)[/b]
Not sure where you got yours from, but SOS depends on who you ask, but most put Oregon's schedule as tougher (somewhat) - these are the first two hits I got on google:

http://teamrankings.com/ncf/27powerratings.php3

Oregon - 49
ND - 53

http://hurricane.lsu.edu/_gbe/comppoll/

Oregon - 57
ND - 72
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Mine came from Sagarin.
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#666284 - 07/12/05 10:55 AM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fletcher Beck:
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Originally posted by GoBuX:
[b]
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Originally posted by Fletcher Beck:
[b]If you go back and look at Oregons schedule and the ranking of the teams they played at that time, it looks like this.

VS #23 Fresno State (W 37-34)
@ #17 Arizone State (W 31-17)
VS #23 California (W 27-20)
Doesn't matter what their ranking WAS when you played them. The only thing that matters is how good they actually are.[/b]
Then i guess ND beat no one either, thanks for making my point[/b]
I don't disagree with you there. I'm a Buckeye and am just kind of tired of hearing that Oregon should go ahead of us. The only reason ND is there is because they're "special." They have an agreement with the BCS that gets them in a game easier and gives them more money than any other team.

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#666285 - 08/12/05 07:20 AM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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We all know the BCS is a bunch of crap. But whats really important here, is Nebraska got accepted for a bowl game. How the hell did this happen? Also, thanks to Bill Callahan, there is one less Nebraska fan in this state. So are there any other teams out there that need a fan? I can make really good salsa and throw a hell of a tailgate party wink

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#666286 - 09/12/05 01:40 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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#666287 - 29/12/05 09:01 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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oops!!!!

now we know why Oregon didn't go to a BCS game [Wave] laugh

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#666288 - 29/12/05 09:19 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Originally posted by NebraskaXterra:
We all know the BCS is a bunch of crap. But whats really important here, is Nebraska got accepted for a bowl game. How the hell did this happen? Also, thanks to Bill Callahan, there is one less Nebraska fan in this state. So are there any other teams out there that need a fan? I can make really good salsa and throw a hell of a tailgate party wink
are you a fan now that they beat Michigan and a wild weird one??

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#666289 - 29/12/05 10:21 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Originally posted by cruzinfrontier:
oops!!!!

now we know why Oregon didn't go to a BCS game [Wave] laugh
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#666290 - 30/12/05 06:47 AM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Totally outcoached, plain and simple - and I'm pissed about it. mad Decent offensive play calling in the second half and we'd have won.

Oh well, 10-2 isn't bad and we return a ton of talent next year. Plus we can get some revenge against OU in Autzen.

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#666291 - 30/12/05 10:11 AM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Originally posted by pnwbeers:
Totally outcoached, plain and simple - and I'm pissed about it. mad Decent offensive play calling in the second half and we'd have won.

Oh well, 10-2 isn't bad and we return a ton of talent next year. Plus we can get some revenge against OU in Autzen.
Same here. I was in a shitty mood after that interception at the end. My wife thinks I'm mental. No, I'm just pissed. I went straight out into the garage after the interception and worked on my POS for a few hours.

In summary, we got our asses handed to us... 10 wins is still impressive. :rolleyes:
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#666292 - 30/12/05 07:29 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Will the Hurricanes even show up for the game against LSU?

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No.
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#666293 - 02/01/06 11:53 AM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Bad day for Nismo - Tech just went down.

Couple that with the upcoming exposure of of front-butt charlie's team and he'll need a few brews tonight.

The real shocker so far today - how the hell is Whisky up 17-0 over Auburn at the half? [Freak]

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#666294 - 02/01/06 12:01 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Wooo Hooo! How about Wisconsin!!! (So Far)!
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#666295 - 02/01/06 12:22 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Good game Alabama fans. That defense of yours is pretty damn good. Continue to build that offense and you'll be contending for the national championship. Who knows, maybe will build our defense and play you for a rematch. laugh

Lol, Headline: one of the ugliest game-winning field goals in bowl history

Come on ND... beat tOSU! cool Give me something to be happy about this bowl season. [LOL]
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#666296 - 02/01/06 01:19 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Too bad Louisville couldn't hold out. Nice effort, though.

Whisky is still up over Auburn (24-10 now). [ThumbsUp]

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#666297 - 02/01/06 01:43 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Finally, the Big 10 gets a Bowl win and against a fine Auburn Team! smile
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#666298 - 02/01/06 01:52 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Finally, the Big 10 gets a Bowl win and against a fine Auburn Team! smile
What happened to that legendary SEC defense? Auburn gave up 500+ yards today.

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#666299 - 02/01/06 02:14 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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I hate supporting the bowl system, so I won't watch the other 500 bowls. The only games I'll watch is the ND/tOSU and UT/USC... and of course the Cotton Bowl today. I hope the ratings are way down where the only people watching are fans of the programs we're they'll have to see that only a playoff system will save this shipwreck of a system.

One can only hope, right. :rolleyes:
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#666300 - 02/01/06 02:17 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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To bad Michigan didn't have a few more wins this year! We could have lost to an even better team in a bowl! laugh
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#666301 - 02/01/06 03:55 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Originally posted by NismoXse02:
I hate supporting the bowl system, so I won't watch the other 500 bowls. The only games I'll watch is the ND/tOSU and UT/USC... and of course the Cotton Bowl today.
I admire your devotion. I have problems with the current system as well (obviously), but I just can't turn my back on that much college football. I love it too much not to watch, especially with the offseason looming large.

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#666302 - 02/01/06 05:39 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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How about "The Ohio State University"! Wooo Hooo! laugh

Another big win for the Big 10 against another fine opponent today!

( To bad Iowa lost frown )

EDIT: Not to make anybody feel bad as my favorite team Michigan had their a$$ handed to them all year. frown
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#666303 - 02/01/06 05:46 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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How many bowl losses is that in a row? Ya think maybe ND is consistantly getting into bowl games they have no business being in?

604 yards to 316 - ND better thank their lucky stars they didn't lose by 30+.

LMAO Nismo - you had a bad day. [Finger]

Edit - in all seriousness, I believe that's the 8th straight bowl loss. When will people realize ND is NEVER as good as they pretend?

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#666304 - 02/01/06 07:04 PM Re: who is gonna win the BCS Championship?
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Yeah, definitely a bad bowl season (all 2 games) for me. But I'm definitely happy with how the future looks. Both bowl games were close for the most part. Tech has a Top 15 recruiting class. ND did great in only one year under coach and now has a Top 5 recruiting class coming in. Things are looking up. smile Maybe they'll get a real system in place by the time we're really good. :rolleyes:

The only thing I need to decide is who to root for in the Championship game. On one hand, I hate UT and can never root for a team that rivals my team. On the other hand, I want the Big XII to continue to do good in their bowls to show everyone that we're not as weak as originally thought. Guess I have a couple days to decide.
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