Idle arm, duh just one... thanks. About the parmer trails, I didn't see any no trespassing signs, just no dumping signs. A few tracks had been closed either by dumping or mounds. The ones south of the medical center look much less legal. One cut appears just west of a road to a little house. That was a short trail with a few closed exits at the south end and a big drop in. A side trail had a HUGE rugged drop in (i'm not that brave or stupid) but little else. If legality can be figured out it might be a nice place to go and cut some new trails. There is a second cut just east of mopac on that same street but I didn't have time to check it out. Maybe Monday if somebody wants to waste some time and gas we could check it out.