This is something that we can definitely bring up at a meeting. Like Carlton said, in the past there wasn't a huge desire to have voting rights or be officers. If this is a big sore spot we can talk about it and maybe change it. Is the name of the club that important?

Like Carlton said the bigger the numbers, the more advantages it has and also joining an already established club we already have some nice advantages. You may eventually have similar things but we have compiled this over the years to offer these to our members.

I'm not trying to pick sides as both have valid thoughts and I guess now I just have some questions in mind for what is trying to be accomplished. What are you looking to gain by making a new club? Is it just the name? Is it the voting rights? I just want to understand a little better.

Daniel