Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
Quote:
Originally posted by Mobycat:
[b]If I run on a treadmill at 4mph for one hour, I don't move relative to the room I'm in.

But I don't tell someone, "I ran zero miles today!"

I DID run 4 miles.
Ah HA!

No - you ran ZERO MILES.

You stayed in ONE PLACE, and, COVERED NO DISTANCE.

You moved your legs AS THOUGH you had run 4 miles...but, in fact, you did not.

laugh [/b]
No, I covered four miles of the treadmill.

Again - what is the speed relative to in the question?

If I drive my car for four miles on a dyno - do you really think I can claim it has no miles on it if I resold it? No.
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