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Originally posted by socalpunx:

But as thrust is applied how that overcomes the lack of forward motion is the question here.
The question is whether the same amount of wind and air move over the wings as does in a conventional takeoff.

That is the key and the only thing that needs focusing.

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I still believe that forward motion works in a symbiotic relationship to the method of thrust and wing design but they can also produce flight independant of each other.
Remember the four forces required for flight.

We know we have three.

The only variable yet to be determined is the air at a certain point in time moving over the wing and body of the plane.

If it is even remotely less than that for a conventional takeoff....

Will this plane in the scenario achieve takeoff and flight?
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