Damn

We're still on this?

Its the speed thing...

the ONLY thing KEEPING the last to see the light is the Speed issue.

EVERYONE else knows that the speed of the plane is how fast IT IS MOVING, and

NOT

How fast its tires are SPINNING.

If you think that the SPEED of the plane is the speed of its tires' rotation (Like off a speedometer of a truck doing a burn-out)..

THEN

you come to the wrong conclusion...and think the plane is not moving.

Of course, if its not moving...there's no conveyor speed to match.

So - One camp is saying the plane sits there on a stationary/non-rotating conveyor belt.

(Because there's nothing to make the plane turn its tires, except it moving)

AND

It can't move unless the engine pushes it

AND

The engine can ONLY push the plane like the finger pushing the toy truck.

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In the world of the CF'r:

The finger pushes the truck...but, some how, it does not move forward.