ok, the plane will fly. finally there were a couple of explanations that made sense. i got too hung up in finding flaws in the 'can fly' group. almost everyone who said it can fly, said it for the wrong reasons. it is a 50/50 guess....and no i couldn't be bothered to read all the pages of dribble either. lol

i am man enough to admit when i am wrong.

what's really sad is that in just one week there are more posts in this thread than the phat chick friday thread.