pg 51 Whether or not they were called "The Taliban" really doesnt matter. It isnt as if these guys just magically appeared. They were the same people under a name not used yet.

With page 225. Arent we just talking semantics here? Is there really a difference? They still met with his direct representatives. It's like saying that if there was proof that Osama Bin Laden hadn't met with Saddam directly, but dealt constantly with Iraqi officials, that would somehow represent less collusion between the two than if they met face to face somewhere.

As for page 229, here is the text of a speech. I'll agree he did not say those exact words, but the sentiment does seem to be there.

The Speech

edited to add, wow Madman, we sure are on the same page today. laugh
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Chirpa Chirpa Bockala!