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Originally posted by NY Madman:
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Originally posted by Mobycat:

Have you been drinking more of that tequila? I've never said I was a fan of hard left socialism. Hitler was NOT a socialist. Socialists don't differentiate people based on their ethnicity. Socialists don't ease gun restriction (German Weapons Law of 1938), socialists don't put ability over equality.

Socialists ARE idealist...something Hitler was not. (See above quote about boy throwing up.)
I was somewhat harsh responding to you. While typing it I thought I was responding to our resident communist at first. I don't think YOU are a hard leftist.

You are wrong about the Nazi's. Your definition of socialism is too tainted by the leftist socialist governments that have been prevelant. The Nazi's may not have nationalized all businesses, etc., and did grant some individual freedoms... only for party members and certain citizens, but study the Nazi government some more. They were definitely socialists. Without a doubt. Just a different flavor of socialism.

You are wrong about socialists not differentiating people by race. Racism and advancement through many socialist systems had much to do with the racial creed of those who wished to rise to power. Also look at the socialists here in America. All they do is classify everyone by race and instill a "group" mentality according to race. To say socialists are not racists is an extremely false statement.
I suppose it all depends on what socialism we are talking about...Socialism of the 30s or now. Socialism on the economic front, or socialism on the political front.

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Are you now apologizing for socialism?
Not that I'm aware of.
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