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Originally posted by NY Madman:
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Originally posted by Mobycat:

She attended Judge's funeral. Now, YOU may not consider him a firefighter, but I bet 99% of NYC's firefighters DO consider him a firefighter
Fr. Judge was not a firefighter. He was a chaplain. And no...regardless of what you may have heard in the press he was not as universally loved as he was portrayed in the media. I'm sure he was a nice guy, but many fireman did not appreciate an openly gay priest as a department chaplain.
So some firefighters would say he wasn't one because he was gay? What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China?

A simple "he was not a firefighter, he was a chaplain" would have sufficed.

Funny thing...last I knew the Catholic Church had no problem with someone in the church (lay or clergy) that was openly gay - AS LONG AS they didn't act on it. If he was celibate, as he required to have been, it doesn't matter.
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