yes and a bad one... especially in Logan's case... because in covering it up they basicly demonstrated to people that you should not pull over very far if you have to let Motorcycles pass and tryed not to discuss the real cause... excessive speed.

Just please, in the future when something goes wrong... own up to it and everyone can learn from it... a little embarassment is nothing compared to what you will feel if you don't offer your wisdom and someone ends up dead.

last time the roll over disclosure discussion came up, in retaliation i got blasted for a stupid incident i had been involved in... funny thing is... the only reason anyone knew about it wa sbecause i got home and immediately posted here... i have never again gone out alone. I shared my experience for all to learn from... Black Ice on a narrow steep mountain trail is not a good thing... being prepared for it is.