Im a welder and a machinist. And since our company just got a CNC plasma table i thought I'd look and see what was under the bumperettes. And hopefully come up with and Idea for a bumper that wrapped all the way around. Once I pealed the plastic off all I could say is there is no F'ing way. I had Ideas of copying TJM's rear rover design but no, no way. To much weight, to much metal, no way to make it look good. Then I thought of mini slider's to go under the plastic corners, but whats the point. the problem is the vehicles body follows that plastic all the way down. But on the up side I came up with and Idea for either a multi-mount, or a permenant winch cradle for the front. But then you are stuck with a plastic front bumper still, so,... Idunno. I'm building something, what Im not sure, but its coming.