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Originally posted by zuzuman03:

but as the jets push it down the runway, you adjust the leading and trailing egde flaps to obtain the lift. the air doesnt get udner the wing and blow upwards into the wing to create the lift, its the airstream over and more so under the wing. or it could be like osprey(sp?) with the vertical take off capability. take a paper air plane, trim some flaps at the rear of the wings.
You are forgetting one major thing.... the plane in this hypothetical situation IS NOT moving down any runway. To an outside observer it is staying in the same place, like a stationary object.

The argument seems to be do the engines at maximum thrust have enough effect on the air behind the plane to achieve lift.

It just might lift off the ground, but it definitely isn't any plane I would want to be sitting on. [Freak]
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