No not 10.5 hours to get to the trailhead. I was just saying that it is about a 2 hour drive just to get to where the trail starts. THen the book states the trail takes 8 hours to run. With daylight savings time that is why I turned my attention to the Gold Lake run which looks like a lot of fun.

The Gold Lake run is rated a 4 out of 10, but then you can take the Snake Hill spur which was rated about a 7, and the site I saw the trail write up on said you better have a locker to run this trail which drops 500 ft in elevation over a 1/4 of a mile. See here:

http://www.nccn.net/~gv4w/adopt.htm

Anyway.....I was also looking at trail runs in the norther Sierra portion of that book (which I happen to have here at work) #43 and #44. Those also look like they would be good winter runs due to their lower elevation, and #44 is rated a 6 out of 10....about my limit but may actually interest some of our Rubicon runners.....but then again probably not. lol

Anyway......I am interested in any of these low elevation winter runs if we ever decide to tackle any of these