As much as I want to it looks like I am probably out for this trip. Taking a two week trip to Death Valley......arizona...and socal deserts in January and I need to conserve all the vacation time I can.

If anything changes and I will repost.

On a side note....has anyone ever considered heading up to Icehouse for a snow run (may have been mentioned earlier). Great places to sled up there....and then on the way back you can take the old Pony Express trail back down to Highway 50 aka Webber Mill Rd. Rated a 2 out of 10 when dry but a little harrier when wet and muddy (when I tried it with stock long trails). Mix in a little snow and you would have the perfect trail with scenery to get you back down to 50 and back home. Best of both works some off roading and sledding all in one location. May want to keep it for another run in Jan or Feb?
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