You know, I can't join the Military if I wanted to, because there is this pesky little physical problem I had have since my Sophomore year of High School (lower lobe of left lung is damaged and does not work) which poses a hiring problem for me. I'm sure you've heard of the term 4F.

Do you realize that some people don't join the military because they aren't allowed to?

I haven't listened to it, but I agree.

Who have we tortured?? I have yet to see a single person tortured...and even if a pansy ass like you considers having dogs bark at you and being dunked under water as torture then....So?? Sometimes bad things are necessary for the safety of the whole, I, like most Americans, have no issue with torturing terrorists to protect the rest of us...

Wiretap?? Bah...let me know when someone who doesn't deserve it gets wiretapped illegally and then is arrested on false charges...kinda doesn't fit...first you'd have to drum up a fake reason to do the illegal wiretap--THEN fake evidence as a result of the wiretap to arrest someone on illegal charges...Riiiiiight...

"Steal and election"?? Thats a farce propagated by the left you you LOVE to eat up...the NY Times and numerous other papers did the research after the election and found that the actual count bears out the results...case closed, look it up...

Illegal war?? Whats illegal about it?? Passed the Congress, passed the UN....And even if it passed NEITHER, it still wouldn't be illegal...

Manufacture fake news?? Yes, when the LA Times prints doctored pictures to make soldiers look bad that is criminal...so ya go me there...

Please Xterrapin...go back to that rock you crawled out from and die...

Come on WilMac...just come out and admit it...you don't like it either musicly or lyrically...the only reason you like it is because it follows your moronic views of the world and it makes you feel good to hear other people sound as dumb as you are...

Nope. I actually do like it. I'll stand by that statement.

Now go sell a Corolla, douche.

Ah!! Funny guy!! Haven't heard that one before!! Good come back...just shows your taste in music is right in line with your sense of humor...Moron...

What's a Fallujah?

40 bucks, same as downtown.

Really? God, I can't even imagine that. Perceived irreverence aside, that was just bad music. It was sophomoric, shallow, bland, predictable, with that constipated deadpan Scott Stapp seriousness that makes me want to feel sorry for music.

Jesus, and how fucking edgy could Billy Joel ever get, anyhow? "Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, that was Christmas in Fallujah....brought to you by Nabisco...this next one's called Uptown Girl...[crowd cheers]..."

I don't want to align myself politically with Billy Joel or the Dixie Chicks or Barbra Fucking Streisand. People like that make the rest of us who want to see our Glorious Leaders' heads stuck on pikes look bad.

NO shit.

I hope I never go to one of those concerts by someone whose music I like and have to sit through a political rant simply because they have a soapbox and an audience. When will everyone realize that most of these singers, etc. are nothing more than a bunch of wealthy high school dropouts who watch Oprah and live/eat/breathe what the media feeds them since they have so much free time on their hands only so they can regurgitate it to their captive audiences and try to make them believe that they know what they're talking about.

I'd rather walk the fuck out.

THIS is why I'd never go to a U2 or a Springsteen concert. Billy Joel? Meh. He hasn't put out anything decent since Glass Houses.

I'd venture to guess that Bono knows a hell of a lot more about these issues than any of us do.

Bono is probably the exception to the general rule. Regardless, I don't buy a concert ticket to hear a bunch of political tripe, good or bad. I buy it as a diversion; for entertainment purposes.

Shut up and sing.

...and freedom to continue harping on imaginary, and exaggerated "scandals". You know what... if we had in WWII the media coverage we have now, people would look at that war and its veterans in a completely different light. It's war. It's ugly and it's not intended, nor should it EVER BE, a spectator's sport.

My grandfather is a Pearl Harbor survivor, and he lost two brothers in WWII. I revere that man, and I tear up when I think of the sacrifice he and all other WWII vets made. Yet I know that there were scoundrels in the service back then as there are now. Don't believe the media. Talk to vets. Talk to the ones who bleed, not the ones who profit from sensationalism. When you talk to the vets, you begin to realize, even on some tiny scale, the value of laying down your life for another human. Support the war or not, but don't frag our men and women by giving up on this country. My grandfather and his two dead brothers didn't go through it so you or anyone else could sit around and whine about what they perceive to be the truth presented to them by an absolutely corrupt media.

Honor them. Learn from them.

Freedom isn't free, it isn't environmentally friendly, and it isn't politically correct.

Christianity is rehashed pagan sun-worship and is used by the rich and powerful to control people, the 9/11 tragedies were part of an elite conspiracy, and ever since World War I, the ultra-rich have been secretly manufacturing wars and financial collapses to control the populace and to get richer and more powerful.

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Happy Festivus in Fallujah!

Wow. Uh.... okay...... Where the heck did that come from? Hey Claus. Merry Christmas. Seriously. Merry Christmas.

Knowledge does not equal Wisdom...

Now go buy a few more "red" tshirts manufactured in sweatshops in China and India so that 1% of the profits can go to help those that have chosen to be infected with AIDS in Africa you dope...

On the Subject of :

Crappy Songs about war > Freedom > peoples perception of Freedom > Usual XOC BS .

Not to hijack the subject, the song is awful, the lyrics are crap, the voice is crap. It was clearly performed to get a message through to a captive audience and is getting the attention outside the concert venue by way of Youtube.

On the Topic of Freedom, I am at a point where the only gratitude I have is towards the guys and gals who are obeying orders and putting themselves in harms way to fulfill a political agenday. Is it a just cause?....in my opinion we do not know yet will it make a long term difference?. we do not know yet I sure hope it is not in vain.

I watched the zeitgeist movie about 2 weeks ago for the first time, and watched it again on Friday. While it seem far fetched and incredible I believe no one can honestly say it does not stir up questions in the way it depicts topics that are the most important issues for human existance today

Worst.
Song.
Evar.

And I don't give two poops about the lyrics, I couldn't make it past "It's evening in the desert" opening line. Was that Scott Stapp, former "Creed" singer? Awful.

I give it two poops. Big ones.

Wow. Bad song. Sounds like an Oasis cover band with too little practice.

No It's Cass Dillhole, Some dude Billy "I suck" Joel picked up at Starbucks on Long Island. Check out his Myspace, Turns out X-mas in Fallujah is actually one of his better songs:

http://www.myspace.com/cassdillonmusic

True definition of a notalent Assclown

True. But that wasn't my point.

Uh....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, those kids all chose the be infected. :rolleyes:

(And for the record, I'm not going to buy any of that overpriced "red" shit.)

The level of garbage that this song drops to reminds me of another of the worst songs I have ever heard...Anyone remember "Peace in L.A." by Tom Petty?? Another one of those songs written on the back of a tampon wrapper...I can't find a link to a free audio clip of it but for those who don't remember, here is a link to what are perhaps the dumbest lyrics of all time:

Tom Petty\'s Peace in L.A.

So here's the question...

What DOES constitute a well-written protest song?

CSN&Y's "Ohio?"
Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth?"
Mellencamp's "To Washington?"
Lennon's "Imagine?"
Marvin Gaye's "What's Goin' On?"
Springsteen's "Born in the USA?"
CCR's "Fortunate Son?"

Sir mixalot baby's got back comes to mind